Miyamoto And Aonuma On Training Nintendo's Next Generation Of Developers

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
  • In this interview with Game Informer, The Legend of Zelda's creator Shigeru Miyamoto and series producer Eiji Aonuma talk about what it's like for the legendary developers within Nintendo to work with the younger generations and what they've learned from each other. What lesson does Miyamoto want to impart before his eventual retirement?

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  • @booshter9714
    @booshter9714 7 лет назад +442

    Say what you want about Nintendo. Call them out of touch. Say they're for kids. But being a young developer and having Miyamoto as one of your tutor's is a great honor.

    • @millieman76
      @millieman76 7 лет назад +61

      THEMIGHTYDOOVDE When people say out of touch, they want to spend hundreds of dollars on rushed consoles that yearn to be low end PCs.

    • @iownalx23
      @iownalx23 7 лет назад +18

      THEMIGHTYDOOVDE its a once in a lifetime opportunity.

    • @mickels2020
      @mickels2020 5 лет назад +1

      AbdallahSmash026#1Fan no u

    • @jacktheflash8478
      @jacktheflash8478 4 года назад

      millieman76 like?

    • @GoldStandardGames
      @GoldStandardGames 3 года назад

      They are training them how to copy and clone other peoples ideas.

  • @gustinex
    @gustinex 7 лет назад +192

    "We can always apologize to them later"
    I'd love to see my boss apologize to me sincerely for once

    • @weeblewobble
      @weeblewobble 4 года назад +22

      As someone who has a boss who is able to do this, I gotta say, it makes the work environment a far more comforting and enjoyable place to be. Hopefully you'll get that some day, my dude.

    • @gustinex
      @gustinex 4 года назад +10

      @@weeblewobble hey thanks for the the kinds words :) its been 3 years and I left that place for good and never been happier!

  • @LupercalRising
    @LupercalRising 7 лет назад +128

    these two are responsible for my childhood being incredible

    • @Dandelions479
      @Dandelions479 3 года назад +3

      I've been home schooled all year, and I don't know what I'd do without the feeling of awarding myself for my work with a good Mario game.

  • @jakfrost25
    @jakfrost25 7 лет назад +61

    It still surprises me people don't think the older designers like Miyamoto don't know what they're doing anymore. Watch the video. They know precisely what they're doing.

    • @Gabo2oo
      @Gabo2oo 2 года назад +14

      It's sad to see how Miyamoto has become a scapegoat for fans to blame for every tiny misdirection over the years, even stuff he's not involved with at all.

  • @Simok1234
    @Simok1234 7 лет назад +216

    Can I just say these interview videos you've had with them have been great. You guys chose some really good topics that I feel we don't hear enough about from Nintendo themselves. Huge props.

  • @Keith1904
    @Keith1904 7 лет назад +84

    That moment when you realize Reggie is older than aonuma...

  • @xxlinkman456xx
    @xxlinkman456xx 7 лет назад +45

    Nintendo will never be the same once Miyamoto and Aonuma are gone

    • @gopaldey8487
      @gopaldey8487 3 года назад +6

      Koizumi too

    • @neypaz8054
      @neypaz8054 3 года назад +4

      @@gopaldey8487 And Tezuka

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 года назад +7

      At already is getting sh*ttier with the passing of Mr.Iwata and Reggie stepping down from being NOA's CEO..

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 года назад +3

      @@neypaz8054 and Sakurai (I know he doesn't work at Nintedo but he is one of the main guys too with the Smash IP)

    • @GoldStandardGames
      @GoldStandardGames 3 года назад

      They are just waiting to clone another Fumito Ueda game. Hurry up Ueda-san

  • @DJOpaixMusic
    @DJOpaixMusic 7 лет назад +27

    Aonuma and Miyamoto are the most important developers.
    They are epic masters of playable reality in games.

  • @jakob5991
    @jakob5991 7 лет назад +44

    jeez christ I love Aonuma

    • @Goobyster
      @Goobyster 4 года назад +3

      he feels like that grandpa that teaches you to fish and play blackjack and stuff like that

  • @pensologohesito
    @pensologohesito 7 лет назад +57

    Game Informer, you did an amazing job interviewing these two amazing individuals. Thank you.

  • @rocca717
    @rocca717 7 лет назад +47

    The Creators Of The Best Game In The World By Far...., The Legend Of Zelda!

  • @BenjaminIMeszaros
    @BenjaminIMeszaros 7 лет назад +23

    Man. I really want these gents as my mentors.

  • @SerdinathTheWise
    @SerdinathTheWise 7 лет назад +19

    The best knowledge comes from the wisest of people who are usually wiser the older they become. It's nice listening to their thoughts and opinions.

  • @DEFUNCTFORKS
    @DEFUNCTFORKS 7 лет назад +26

    These interviews are amazing guys, some of the best things you've all put out.

  • @passose7329
    @passose7329 7 лет назад +144

    tbh we still haven't seen the next miyamoto

    • @TheArsenalMan125
      @TheArsenalMan125 7 лет назад +5

      dont trust these guys they pretty much just copy everyone else is doing no one has the genius of the current and past nintendo people i seriously fear for what zelda will be like in 20 years

    • @passose7329
      @passose7329 7 лет назад +15

      TheArsenalMan125 the new crew is good, but they just haven't touched the greatness that Miyamoto did in his career

    • @leftyfourguns
      @leftyfourguns 7 лет назад +116

      It's a bit different
      When Miyamoto first started, there was no such thing as the concept of video games. It was all still new and very abstract. So Miyamoto and other classic game designers got to define what a video game is through their own work. Young designers making their way now have "rules" and conventions to keep in mind, not to mention the daunting legacies of their mentors to live up to. Video games during the time of Miyamoto were a creative visionary industry. Now it's ultra competitive, motivated by profit and trends, directed by executives instead of artists.
      But the most important advice from Miyamoto here is also the most simple: just be yourself. Younger designers trying to be like Miyamoto is no good, Miyamoto never tried to be like anyone else, he just always followed his own vision and instincts. I think younger generations have a hard time being themselves and letting go of a lot of things that can hold you back

    • @cocobille
      @cocobille 7 лет назад +22

      Koizumi is basically groomed as the next Miyamoto in terms of company position.
      Obviously, you can't really say "next X" though

    • @creativeusername6453
      @creativeusername6453 7 лет назад +31

      we're not going to see the next miyamoto just like we're not going to see the next Walt Disney.

  • @xD4L1Nx
    @xD4L1Nx 7 лет назад +9

    I like how Aounma said "Yeah, that's right" the same way Ben Hanson does all the time

  • @neptune4467
    @neptune4467 7 лет назад +13

    This video actually inspired me as a young game creator to go with the flow and do what I want!Before I watched this I was really stressed and this helped me a lot.

    • @gameinformer
      @gameinformer  7 лет назад +3

      Glad it helped!

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 года назад +1

      Hope things are going well :)

  • @muffinman5741
    @muffinman5741 7 лет назад +161

    I love that when old asian guys talk about games it suddenly sounds so much more sophisticated, like an asian philosophy.

    • @IfYouSeekCaveman
      @IfYouSeekCaveman 7 лет назад +12

      They've had a lot of time to think about this stuff.

    • @PaldBenis
      @PaldBenis 7 лет назад +61

      Jim Knopf it's true. Americans etc just view it as a business. guys like this see it as a form of art and take pride in it.

    • @MimebladeGMail
      @MimebladeGMail 7 лет назад +1

      Tell that to Sega's Arcade sector of Developers. Arcade Game devs only seem to care about Japanese venues, especially ARC System Works.

    • @Crichjo32
      @Crichjo32 7 лет назад +23

      More specifically Miyamoto is an artist or philosopher. He pretty much single handily made video games into what we know them as to this day.

  • @bareq99
    @bareq99 3 года назад +5

    I am really happy that Mr.Aonuma is getting more and more attention after all his hard work on the Zelda series :)
    That sir right there is an inspiration!

  • @treyhallmark5418
    @treyhallmark5418 4 года назад +4

    I have so much respect for Miyamoto and Aonuma. Both are awesome!

  • @PurushNahiMahaPurush
    @PurushNahiMahaPurush 5 лет назад +14

    "Go with the flow...if it doesn't work out, we can always apologize later"
    Speaks volumes of about courage Nintendo has to experiment. Never give up experimenting Nintendo. You and Sony are the beacons of hope in the sea of shit called AAA games development.

  • @Crichjo32
    @Crichjo32 7 лет назад +14

    Having these guys as video game mentors, would be like having Mozart and Beethoven as mentors for music.

  • @samanthamichniewicz870
    @samanthamichniewicz870 3 года назад +2

    These men are my heros... I would give anything to work on zelda games with them😍😍😍

  • @NemoNews2
    @NemoNews2 2 месяца назад

    they are so wise.. feel like a grandson

    • @NemoNews2
      @NemoNews2 2 месяца назад

      also the drip is on point

  • @thundageon5962
    @thundageon5962 4 года назад +4

    Who'll be the next Miyamoto, either my boy Koizumi or Aonuma

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 года назад

      Probably Mr.Aonuman
      I have nothing but respect to Mr.Koizumi but Mr.Aonuma has bren with Mr.Miyamoto WAAAAAAY longer and they are basically BFs now (not even kidding.. There are articles about how much they hang out at the company lol)

    • @Dandelions479
      @Dandelions479 3 года назад

      I hope someone good... when he descends to the Cloud Kingdom, I fear for Super Mario [and other games, but Mario is my favorite]

  • @GoldenHay1
    @GoldenHay1 6 лет назад +7

    it's good that nintendo does not follow trends.

  • @AintPopular
    @AintPopular 6 лет назад +2

    Father of early gaming

  • @gogosegaga
    @gogosegaga 4 года назад +1

    God bless Nintendo - we are living in a golden age of superb games from them right now

  • @nikoma_
    @nikoma_ 7 лет назад +8

    So. Cool.

  • @lostwoodsdweller5313
    @lostwoodsdweller5313 5 лет назад +2

    I want those Switch pillows

  • @KyvannShrike
    @KyvannShrike 7 лет назад +2

    It does sound like whatever skeleton they're using of core gameplay ideas seems to work wonders though.

  • @Galaxia53
    @Galaxia53 4 года назад +1

    It would be nice if they gave Paper Mario the flexibility of being allowed to have original characters again.

  • @Dadz
    @Dadz 7 лет назад +36

    Really dislike how the subtitles go to the top when showing who's talking

    • @SalvableRuin
      @SalvableRuin 7 лет назад

      xBoolin complaining is not hard? what is not hard?

    • @soridosuneku
      @soridosuneku 7 лет назад

      뿡뿡! ^__^ It's not hard to follow the captions in his opinion

    • @zombiezombie632
      @zombiezombie632 7 лет назад

      soul silver s

  • @jey6779
    @jey6779 4 года назад

    I think both of them know English well enough to understand the questions by seeing their fast reactions.

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 года назад

      Nope
      There are screens that translate for them

    • @jey6779
      @jey6779 3 года назад

      @@bareq99 aha thanks for letting me know!

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 года назад +1

      @@jey6779 NP
      Just a correction tho
      There was an actual translator with them in this video
      Usually there are screens that translate for them
      My bad

  • @terry-
    @terry- 7 месяцев назад

    Great!

  • @Dandelions479
    @Dandelions479 3 года назад

    It's good to know he's teaching them so when he passes my kids can play Mario and it wont be trashed like Spongebob after Hillensburg died.

  • @amostmg8486
    @amostmg8486 7 лет назад

    can they make another model of Nintendo in affordable price

  • @ayojuanito
    @ayojuanito Год назад

    ❤❤

  • @arthuraraujo1070
    @arthuraraujo1070 7 лет назад +1

    They have to play Dark Souls

  • @MasterChris666
    @MasterChris666 Год назад

    Switch Pro will be crazy new

  • @mory357jojo
    @mory357jojo 6 лет назад

    no.1 deveropment

  • @AquaBlueTea
    @AquaBlueTea 6 лет назад

    The subtitles are hard to follow

    • @AquaBlueTea
      @AquaBlueTea Год назад

      Learn how to read properly scrub

  • @igordemelo4128
    @igordemelo4128 7 лет назад

    aonuma que homão da porraaaaaa

  • @martingallegos2938
    @martingallegos2938 3 года назад

    *Me watching the thumbnail* Oh it's nice see a female programmer

  • @Mike.Garcia
    @Mike.Garcia 7 лет назад +13

    Very traditionalist , old... make the game, young make it look pretty lol

    • @tonton1009
      @tonton1009 7 лет назад +1

      that is why nintendo is dying

    • @Mike.Garcia
      @Mike.Garcia 7 лет назад +19

      nintendo will out live us both

    • @lilaclunablossom
      @lilaclunablossom 7 лет назад +14

      Ton Ton Nintendo is far from dying, where did you get your sources?

    • @linkyswordsboy
      @linkyswordsboy 7 лет назад +5

      They had one bad console since Virtual Boy, they're obviously dying /s

    • @saigonotapioka6813
      @saigonotapioka6813 6 лет назад +3

      Ton Ton the wii sold more than the Xbox 360 and Ps3, was one of the most famous consoles ever, even being weak, the only shit nintendo did was the Nintendo Wii U, and the Switch is going very well so, i don't see where Nintendo is dying

  • @RohitSharma-mi8gt
    @RohitSharma-mi8gt Год назад

    they built cool ! beat that next gen haha

  • @majidalabboudi7218
    @majidalabboudi7218 7 лет назад

    English subtitles are so bad

  • @jackdugan5566
    @jackdugan5566 5 лет назад +2

    hahah gotta love the Japanese

  • @MacenW
    @MacenW 2 месяца назад

    If ToTK is what they have to show for the next generation of devs, theres nothing to look forward to

  • @MarioFlogar
    @MarioFlogar 2 месяца назад

    Insufficient subtitles

  • @DrLeePercussion
    @DrLeePercussion 4 года назад

    Nintendo is still the leader. hahaha

  • @antmister3214
    @antmister3214 6 лет назад

    Ask on fortnite

  • @uh6241
    @uh6241 6 лет назад

    Would you rather..
    Never play splatoon 2
    OR
    Never play zelda games

  • @Mike.Garcia
    @Mike.Garcia 7 лет назад

    Don't know why he stays with Nintendo

    • @nothankyoutube
      @nothankyoutube 7 лет назад +22

      gwald because he doesn't want to make a sci Fi grim dark shooter the rest of his life?

  • @Tragel102
    @Tragel102 7 лет назад +2

    "make the same game forever"

    • @JoshLeitzel
      @JoshLeitzel 7 лет назад +22

      XD XD XD XD Points for such an original and fresh joke there m8! I too remember playing Splatoon back in the NES days. These Nintendo people really need to create some new IP's!

    • @DemonlordHatty
      @DemonlordHatty 7 лет назад +20

      Josh Leitzel I mean, c'mon Shigeru Miyamoto.... ANOTHER Arms? Get a grip, Nintendo.

    • @tobicapriroy0176
      @tobicapriroy0176 7 лет назад +4

      Poet Samuel Another Kid Icarus? They are so running out of ideas. We get a Kid Icarus game every 25 years. Give us more variety!!!

  • @yousini
    @yousini 5 лет назад

    3:00 holy fucking downgrade, portendo version of botw looks like crap compared to that

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 года назад +1

      This was an early prototype back in 2014

  • @Heyim18bro
    @Heyim18bro 2 года назад

    They need a better way of teaching the new generation because Nintendo game design isn't even a shell of what it used to be

  • @quickmaff9349
    @quickmaff9349 7 лет назад

    can you please stop moving the damn sub titles?

  • @kanten3582
    @kanten3582 7 лет назад +2

    FIRST

  • @JTShine
    @JTShine 3 года назад +1

    Nintendo's younger designers are clearly not cutting it, and not up to par with how the older designers work. Switch is full of unfinished games that only rely on a dumb gimmick, and have none of the soul they used to.

  • @flyingcownipples1295
    @flyingcownipples1295 7 лет назад

    With all these interviews it still surprises me that these guys can't speak English.

    • @Rockets2024Champs
      @Rockets2024Champs 6 лет назад +2

      Max McGaffin miyamoto can speak english

    • @SpinyPuffs
      @SpinyPuffs 4 года назад +2

      I think he PREFERS to speak Japanese, I'm sure he understood what Ben was saying perfectly.

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 года назад

      They do
      They just don't want to because they didn't grow up with English
      Unlike Mr.Iwata for example

  • @Squeenix1
    @Squeenix1 7 лет назад +2

    Out of touch.

    • @JoshLeitzel
      @JoshLeitzel 7 лет назад +20

      With what?

    • @Anon9729X
      @Anon9729X 7 лет назад +1

      Josh Leitzel With everything,but more importantly with what gamers want.

    • @Ahmedbohamad
      @Ahmedbohamad 7 лет назад +18

      When gamers pretend to know what they want...

    • @PaldBenis
      @PaldBenis 7 лет назад +13

      I mean, BotW is likely the most anticipated game of the past decade and is getting nothing but very positive feedback, some reviewers calling it one of the best games of all time, something we'll look back on 20+ years from now.
      "out of touch" is a far stretch.

    • @lilaclunablossom
      @lilaclunablossom 7 лет назад +11

      WCPMachines Agreed, these are just sad people who only want tons of blood and gore and cussing in their video games.

  • @WiqedWhiteGorilla
    @WiqedWhiteGorilla 7 лет назад +1

    People love to pretend this hack is the Asian Jesus

  • @Anon9729X
    @Anon9729X 7 лет назад +1

    Says the man who has been out of touch with gaming for years. The Wii u was garbage and it had only 1 new IP. Yet people wonder why Nintendo has been irrelevant.

    • @PunchPerfectPlayer
      @PunchPerfectPlayer 7 лет назад +17

      Chris Sukam 3DS sold 60 million , thats more than ps4 how is nintendo irrelevant

    • @SerdinathTheWise
      @SerdinathTheWise 7 лет назад +3

      Chris Sukam Lel! No.

    • @Hetsu..
      @Hetsu.. 7 лет назад

      the switch will out sell the ps shit soon

    • @burt7837
      @burt7837 4 года назад +2

      Switch has been selling well

  • @MimebladeGMail
    @MimebladeGMail 7 лет назад +2

    Go with my Instincts, huh? I'll take that advice.

  • @The_RedVIII
    @The_RedVIII 7 лет назад +66

    I love these two. Hope they can continue giving us new experiences for some time.

  • @ticklemegavin
    @ticklemegavin 7 лет назад +17

    These interviews have been amazing! Glad you cut the translators and just subbed Miyamoto and Aonuma.

  • @drewnicholson9031
    @drewnicholson9031 7 лет назад +13

    I love & respect these guys!

  • @buibuiopolismayor7329
    @buibuiopolismayor7329 7 лет назад +6

    Younger generation like to follow trends. Older team members keep them in check. Sounds like a good plan. The backbone of a game is: gameplay.

  • @UP3UP
    @UP3UP 3 года назад +4

    I feel Game Informer has respect for game developers. Unlike IGN that pleased to introduce Zelda's illegal mod.

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 года назад

      Zelda's illegal mod?

  • @ASDFG856
    @ASDFG856 7 лет назад +4

    tldr; let the backend to us oldies, you young do your pretty things on the frontend

  • @1gnore_me.
    @1gnore_me. 7 лет назад +3

    the guy who conducted the interview for this did an excellent job

  • @iwearleatherjackets1
    @iwearleatherjackets1 4 года назад +1

    I have to remind myself that Miyamoto is 67 because my 22-year-old brain doesn't have a quarter of his creativity lol.

  • @kamille286
    @kamille286 3 года назад +1

    So much respect for these guys for making what they do. Awesome video, love watching these!!

  • @Deltarii
    @Deltarii 6 лет назад +1

    Is someone eating chips in the background or is it just me?

  • @liquidsnake6879
    @liquidsnake6879 6 месяцев назад

    This one guy is so ridiculously instrumental to Nintendo' success, it's astonishing he never left and went into business for himself, Miyamoto effectively IS Nintendo, he is the main factor distinguishing Nintendo from other game developers and i'm really impressed at the sheer loyalty he's displayed staying with Nintendo when surely bigger companies would pay him absolute fortunes to leave.

  • @m4r_art
    @m4r_art 8 месяцев назад +2

    Aonuma badly needs Miyamoto to not lose compass. His comments on classic Zelda are infuriating. I don't even consider myself a gamer in the "following a trend" sense. But my life was shaped by Zelda and each iteration from Ocarina of Time to even Breath of the Wild challenged my understanding of what Zelda is or can be. The deeply infuriating part is how Aonuma considers the old Zelda, linear and boring. And he might feel bored by making such a game. But that format and the memories it brought to the table was something special. Back then you had a much more cinematic Zelda with custcenes and an evolving story. Linearity on the side the content felt alive. Breath of the Wild might be a good gameplay mechanic and a nice world design, but it feels empty at its source. I don't know if money got to Aonuma's head but the hardcore Zelda fans that played the game in the 80s and 90s are really the ones he is betraying with his comment. The classic Zelda formula ultimately is something Miyamoto has most merits for. Miyamoto was the baseline Aonuma needed to avoid becoming too focused on innovation. Zelda is also about story and a bad story with good gameplay is not what Zelda is about. The day Wind Waker released, when I saw the tapestry with the medieval aesthetic, I knew something good was on. The day I saw trailers for Twilight Princess I knew something good was on. When I saw Link face Demise, I felt goosebumps. I hated the visuals in that game more than Wind Waker but I love that kind of Zelda nontetheless. Breath of the WIld and Tears of the Kingdom also have their approach to building Zelda and beauty. But the franchise has pushed way too much into open world. The dungeons feel rushed, the world isn't compact no matter how much you explore it, after a point you get bored. Science teaches us, there is beauty in the small and minimal. Sometimes less is more. And Zelda needs their less is more moment for Zelda.

  • @anmolagrawal5358
    @anmolagrawal5358 2 года назад

    Lol, the last question was a bit weird so he just had to say "yes" xD

  • @homoludens87
    @homoludens87 7 лет назад

    すごいなぁ、やっぱり。神だわ。

  • @bombastico16
    @bombastico16 7 лет назад

    Theres no such thing as "younger generation" in nintendo, just fossils with close minded heads.