Germany l can you solve?? l Olympiad Math exponential problem

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  • @coxfire
    @coxfire 2 дня назад +8

    Complex solutions shouldn't be rejected, unless it's specified, they're mathematically valid

  • @MiceRus
    @MiceRus 4 дня назад +10

    почему отказались от комплексного корня? Если при решении мы не отказались сразу от комплексных числе, то должны были воспользоваться понятием вектора. А вектор существует на плоскости, стало быть и комплексное решение этого уравнение СУЩЕСТВУЕТ!

  • @bkkboy-cm3eb
    @bkkboy-cm3eb 9 дней назад +11

    2^a=u (u>0, a≠0)
    → u+u²+u³=39
    u(1+u+u²)=3·13
    ∴ u=3, 1+u+u²=13
    2^a=3 → a=log₂3

  • @edwardarthur3439
    @edwardarthur3439 3 дня назад +4

    From t³ + t² + t - 39 = 0, the rational root theorem will yield t = 3. Easy from there.

  • @OCI-cx5xg
    @OCI-cx5xg 19 часов назад

    So. Easy

  • @sergiomardinefraulob9803
    @sergiomardinefraulob9803 День назад

    Beautiful music!

  • @ianmoseley9910
    @ianmoseley9910 8 дней назад +6

    No reason given for rejecting complex solutions

  • @DeadPKhtow
    @DeadPKhtow 3 дня назад +2

    The music almost get me done 😅

  • @jcarrascoxp
    @jcarrascoxp Месяц назад +22

    Es muchísimo más simple de resolver.
    Al inicio, factorizando por 2^a queda
    2^a * (1 + 2^2 + 2^3) = 39
    2^a * 13 = 39
    2^a = 3
    a = log 3 / log 2
    that´'s all folks

    • @laurencekonersmann639
      @laurencekonersmann639 13 дней назад +1

      @@YAWTon You just demonstrated that 1 is not a solution. It does not negate the previous solution.

    • @laurencekonersmann639
      @laurencekonersmann639 13 дней назад +1

      Much easier and easier to understand. I solved it the same way in under 2 minutes.

    • @abualicanada
      @abualicanada 13 дней назад +1

      Exactly 😅😂

    • @laurencekonersmann639
      @laurencekonersmann639 12 дней назад

      @@YAWTon Got it. Thanks.

    • @sergiodorsi6457
      @sergiodorsi6457 10 дней назад +3

      Fattorizzando per 2^a dentro la parentesi resta 1+2^a+(2^a)^2 e non (1 + 2^2 + 2^3)

  • @walterwen2975
    @walterwen2975 Месяц назад +2

    Olympiad Math exponential problem: 2ª + 4ª + 8ª = 39; a =?
    a > 0, 8ª > 4ª > 2ª > 0; a ϵ R⁺, 2ª + 4ª + 8ª = 2ª + (2ª)² + (2ª)³ = 39
    Let: b = 2ª; 2ª + (2ª)² + (2ª)³ = b + b² + b³ = 39, b + b² + b³ - 39 = 0, b = 2ª > 0
    (b³ - 3³) + (b² + b - 12) = (b - 3)(b² + 3b + 9) + (b - 3)(b + 4) = (b - 3)(b² + 4b + 13) = 0
    b² + 4b + 13 > 0, b ϵ R⁺; b - 3 = 0, b = 3 = 2ª, a = log₂3 = 1.585
    The calculation was achieved on a smartphone with a standard calculator app
    Answer check:
    a = log₂3 = 1.585, 2ª = 3: 2ª + 4ª + 8ª = 2ª(1 + 2ª + 2²ª) = 3(1 + 3 + 9) = 39; Confirmed
    Final answer:
    a = log₂3 = 1.585

  • @louismallet3863
    @louismallet3863 10 дней назад +6

    I have not found where you define if "a" is an integer, a real, a complex or else. Please for next problem precise it as soon as possible.

    • @N8570E
      @N8570E 9 дней назад +5

      This is nit picking. But that is what math is all about. So, I definitely agree.
      As stated, there are three solutions to the problem. And the answer given is not correct. It is an approximation, to three decimal positions (or four characters, if you wish). I believe that the correct answer should have stopped at 'a equal log of three to the base 2'.
      Thank you and yours for your efforts. May you and yours stay well and prosper.

  • @rupeshghelani8494
    @rupeshghelani8494 10 дней назад +2

    How elegant the formulas dance while this wonderful music plays 🙂.

  • @tunetrove5545
    @tunetrove5545 17 часов назад

    log3/log2

  • @Moe-g7o
    @Moe-g7o 10 дней назад

    Wow...tough, but well explained

  • @frenchimp
    @frenchimp 3 дня назад +2

    What's the logic behind writing 39 = 3 + 9 + 27?

  • @ralphhebgen7067
    @ralphhebgen7067 7 дней назад +2

    That cant be an Olympian problem. I could do that in my head.

    • @qualen91
      @qualen91 7 дней назад

      You're then allowed to feel better about yourself

  • @godot-lee
    @godot-lee 8 дней назад +1

    1

  • @_SankarS
    @_SankarS 8 дней назад

    We don't want to use any formula,
    See this easy method,
    2^a+4^a+8^a=39
    2^a+(2^2)^a+(2^3)^a=39
    2^a+2^2a+2^3a=39
    Here 2^a is taken a common,
    2^a(1+2^2+2^3)=39
    Adding this,
    2^a(1+4+8)=39
    2^a(13)=39
    2^a=13
    Taking log on both side
    log 2^a=log 3
    a log 2= log 3
    So, a= log3/log 2
    a= log base(2) 3 is the answer

    • @Lifesagift3554
      @Lifesagift3554 5 дней назад +2

      I believe you have a mistake when you factored the 2^a out . When you factor 2^a out of 2^a + 2^(2a) + 2^(3a) the result is not 2^a(1 + 2^2 + 2^3) or 2^a(1 + 4 + 8). The result is 2^a(1 + 2^a + 2^(2a)). If your statement were true, then let's multiply your statement back and see if we can recover the original statement . . . 2^a(1 + 4 + 8) = 2^a(1 + 2^2 + 2^3) = 2^a + 2^a(2^2) + 2^a(2^3) = 2^a + 2^(a+2) + 2^(a+3)), and clearly that is not the same as 2^a + 2^(2a) + 2^(3a). Remember when you multiply like bases you ADD exponents!

  • @Albert-h8i
    @Albert-h8i Месяц назад +1

    Very educating combination instrument in the background ❤❤

  • @hugobannwarth
    @hugobannwarth 3 дня назад +1

    SO EIN BlÖDSINN ! Wer braucht denn so was?

  • @Yume-x9v
    @Yume-x9v 3 дня назад +1

    2ⁿ-1

  • @ecromancer
    @ecromancer 4 дня назад +1

    Would it just be easier just to write log(base 2) of 3?

  • @МихаилФилатов-н2к
    @МихаилФилатов-н2к 8 дней назад +11

    Easy. Olympian ? Are you sure?

  • @tassiedevil2200
    @tassiedevil2200 4 дня назад +1

    If only real solutions for t are wanted then really it's overkill to find the complex ones. From the discriminant, or even finding the turning point, it is clear this quadratic has no real roots.

  • @N8570E
    @N8570E 9 дней назад

    And I liked the music.
    Thank you. May you and yours stay well and prosper.

  • @klti29
    @klti29 3 дня назад +2

    最後にLogを近似値の小数で表すのには納得いかない

    • @TheAndyseitz
      @TheAndyseitz 21 час назад

      There is no way to express this number as a rational fraction in any number system.

  • @-wx-78-
    @-wx-78- 5 дней назад

    Is there a tradition to solve 2**a=3 as log 3/log 2 instead of simply log₂3 (by the definition of logarithm)?

    • @ryanager8029
      @ryanager8029 4 дня назад

      You can, but the two most conventionally used logarithms are log of e and log of 10, especially log of e.
      When in doubt, put it in log of e.

  • @martinphipps2
    @martinphipps2 8 дней назад +1

    2^a + 4^a + 8^a = 39
    so 2^a + 2^2a + 2^3a = 39
    Let x = 2^a then
    x"3 + x^2 + x - 39 = 0
    but 27 + 9 + 3 = 3 and
    x^3 - 3x^2 + 4x^2 - 12x + 13x - 39 =0
    so x =3 or
    x^2 + 4x + 13 = 0 in which case
    x = (-4+-sqrt(16-52))/2 = -2+-6i

  • @bijaysingh7622
    @bijaysingh7622 10 дней назад +1

    Really very nice . 👍

  • @rusbellmalqui4319
    @rusbellmalqui4319 6 дней назад +1

    Muy fácil, factorizando el 2^a salía más rápido

    • @pepejpg
      @pepejpg 3 дня назад

      Considerando que (a^n)•(a^m)=a^(n+m), entonces si factorizas 2^a dentro del paréntesis te queda (1+(2^a)+(2^a)^2)), si pensaste que después de factorizar te quedaba (1+2^2+2^3) pues tuviste un error de conceptos ahí y llegaste solo por casualidad al resultado