Only experienced users will feel in their bones the truth oozing from this review. Daily workflow plagued by errors and sudden crashes is something that every heavy user dealing with graphics on Windows PC knows. After some time everyone comes to the conclusion that life is not only about pure raw power but mostly about smooth sailing and general pleasant experience. Mac offers that peace and lets you enjoy life outside the working hours unlike PC which makes you want to surrender to the horizontal position on your bed until the next round of uphill battle. Maybe I’m jaded after 3 decades with multiple PC workstations but I know that every time I owned a Mac my life got brighter and I enjoyed my time spent with the computer and often felt inspired to create. To me this is priceless. I’m getting maxed out m3 Max MBP 16 next month. It’s been too long. BTW, great review👍
Actually this is not correct. I have a beefy Windows based system and haven't had resolve crash more than once per week. I have fast timeline perforce with heavy power grades (NR off) and export times are pretty good. (minute and half video at 4 mins and half export time, powergrade with NR for UHD BRAW/h265 timeline). Trade off? Well size and power consumption are pretty ridiculous. Long term, the mac will recuperate some energy bills cost. This whole thing crashing with Windows is as big as locking up and slow downs of Macbooks after a year or two of use. Still, Mac > all other laptops.
I've been building and using every version of Windows since 3.11 and, trust me, you have no idea what pain and crashes are if you've never experienced Windows ME(Millennium Edition). My Win 11 system has been rock solid for almost three years after I determined early on that motherboard drivers were the problem. You either have a poorly matched/configured system or driver problems. I seriously doubt that the problem lies with Windows or Davinci Resolve.
I have two macs and this some bs. I recently went back to Windows. And the difference in how snappy windows feels compares to Mac is night and day. Mac feels boring and monotone, windows makes stuff interesting. If they can fix the battery and power issue, I will honestly never use a Mac again if I don't have to.
@@kolecava i agree.. the last time i had a crash on my pc that i built last december was back in march this year. The problem with most pc users is that they sacrifice stability for performance.
Was going to write a comment that without watching the whole video, literally the first 2 minutes hit home - whole video hits home like mad .. Many people who don't do this professionally don't know the literal frustration of the apps not being optimized for your system and even more so the "small" annoyances and things such as AI tools and all other stuff working faster on Mac but day to day, project after project - you have no idea how massive this difference is hence why Mac is so much better. Thanks a lot for this video! It literally covered EXACTLY what every photo/video editor wanted to see and hear - nobody cares about render times indeed. The video literally conveys to a perfection what switching from a Windows PC to a Macbook for editing is like :) And yes, it's so much better despite the Apple tax.
Has somebody who has watched countless hours of videos on Mac computers, I am incredibly grateful that you did this video because this is the exact performance metric that I am trying to find out. I have a 14700k, 128gb ran, 3080 pc and I've been curious about the real world playback in comparison so thank you for this great video
This was a great video. It was exactly what I was looking for. I just bought the m3 max too and I love it. In most of my use cases, it’s working great with the occasional hiccups. However, the Mac user experience is way better imo. I was on Mac and had to switch to pc a few years back just because i couldn’t afford a Mac upgrade. Recently I just went for it with the m3 max and I love that I can pull it out and work unplugged anywhere on battery and it’s so quiet! Also, I love the little things, like simply being able to airdrop some clips and exports to my phone for immediate render reviews. I could go on, but I’m just repeating what you’ve already said.
I have a friend that got a ProArt laptop. I can hear his fans from 2 cubicles away. Its feature rich and has everything you could put in a laptop. But it will not last. The fan noise alone will drive me crazy. You get more "stuff" on the PC side. But at least for me. It's never mattered. What matters to me is that it works well and is reliable. Quiet and can run at full tilt on battery. My older intel Macbook couldn't do that well at all. Either in fact. The M chips are fantastic. You get all of its power even on battery. You can take it to a client and not plug it in to do your work. And like you said, you can live a dongle free life (more money of course). But, its clean and profesional. That's worth the money. I'm on an M2 Max (one month before M3 came out). And I'm perfectly happy with it. Thanks for the video.
I was actually about to buy an M2 Max, even ordered it, but the configuration was unavailable so I had to wait. And while I waited the M3 Max hit the store shelves and they upgraded my order. So I'm a happy camper. But other than the darker color and a slight spec bump, it's the same great machine, so M2 owners shouldn't worry at all.
I can understand wanting the macbook over the pro art for battery life and lower fan noise but why do you suggest the pro art will not last? I doubt it will last a day less than your macbook. If the ssd in your macbook ever dies it's game over, you can't even boot from external drive because BIOS is kept on the main ssd instead of on a seperate bios chip like on every other computer.
Thanks for your response. I have been waiting to try resolve but my old Intel Mac is not compatible so I look forward to trying it I have watched many tutorials and do have a pretty good grasp on it but not the same until you actually use it. I will try the free version for a bit before I take the plunge but I can see myself going for it. Again awesome video I have subscribed and givin this one a thumbs up and look forward to more of your content. My hats off to you from Ontario Canada!
Thank you for the great review! This help me decide not to get MAC M3 Max. We have an almost the same PC specs by just knowing that there is not much of performance gain is already enough for me to not switch. I built my PC almost 3-4 years ago and spending that amount of money without getting a significant performance gain is like getting stuck to 3-4 years ago technology.
You are just too good. The review is exactly what not only I but a lot of other people were looking for. And the quality is top notch. I hope and pray you grow a lot on YT so we can get better content. also I am pulling the trigger on MBP M3 Max after this video
Nice one. Thanks for not solely doing render tests. I render on break or when I sleep. I sit on the timeline all day long. I am a little disappointed that it can't handle NR and grain and play back in real time. I'm using a Mac Pro 5,1 (vega 56, 48gb ram, NVME) and while the performance on the M3 Max appears a little better, I can run 7fps or so on my machine with similar effects. Although I am using braw - not sure how big a difference would be there... Also, as both PC and Mac user mac OS and general stability is FAR FAR better, though you sacrifice upgradability. I keep lusting after a powerful Mac laptop (as I hate being completely strapped to the desk) and every time Apple releases a new chip I get excited, then I see the timeline performance and think... meh,. Feels like my expectations should be realistic, using a 15 year old 5,1. Like you say in the video 'what a time to be alive' - indeed - but maybe tech is plateauing in terms of usability. Though I do wonder if Blackmagic will be optimising Resolve for Apple silicone more?
I definitely feel like there's room for further optimisations from BMD, especially for ML-based tools like magic mask, depth map etc. I don't think they are currently taking advantage of the hardware. As for timeline performance, I tested "the worst case" scenario. In real life editing I would enable node cache on NR, would work with Dehancer node turned off (and turn in on before rendering). And for a long-term project (a film) I would take the time to make ProRes proxies. At least after I'm done with selects and cutdowns. The ProRes thing is the key. It always was the best codec for postproduction but on this machine it's like on another level. Made me think about investing in a ProRes RAW workflow.... But I hate Atomos products, so I keep waiting for alternatives.
14:25 You mention all day battery life? I returned my base 14 inch m3 pro macbook pro (18/512) but when using it I had to charge it 3 times a day while working at my desk. I may have been getting good battery life with like safari web browsing but with either resolve or lightroom open, even in the background I'd get like 3-5 hours battery life which is still impressive compared to powerful windows laptops but that's not all day by any means. How much battery life are you getting when working in resolve?
To each his own, I'm back with Windows and have no regrets. At the beginning of my experience on the pre-built PC that I bought almost three years ago now, I did experience Davinci Resolve crashes that led to such system corruption that I couldn't restore and had to do a fresh install. I went completely basic with the drivers and installed no motherboard drivers, only Nvidia Studio drivers and I never had a problem again since then no matter how hard I pushed the editing and effects. I would suggest that anyone having crashes try the same.
Great review. I want to compliment your review style. I got used to a lot of reviewers emulating Marques Brownlee, but your style felt unique and overall well executed. Good stuff
First off, great, well thought out review. Just want to say we run a Pc with a 13700 and a 4090. Run studio drivers, and almost never get crashes. You need to have a intel cpu, with the integrated GPU to get the h.265 4.2 2. acceleration like mac has. Just wanted to throw my experience out there. And yes, we do crazy editing too.
Спасибо, интересно. Вопрос: вижу, что вы используете мышь. Я сейчас монтирую на трекпаде. Если у вас есть опыт работы в давинчи на трекпаде, как бы вы оценили работу с мышью? Рекомендовали бы перейти на мышь?
Я думаю это вопрос привычки и личных предпочтений. Для меня мышка это самый быстрый, точный и удобный инструмент ввода. Некоторые вещи на трекпаде мне делать неудобно, например перетаскивать что-то. Но трекпад на макбуке потрясающий, и я им пользуюсь все время, когда не работаю с видео или графикой.
in our office we use resolve on 5 different pc's. we transfer close to 30TB of raw data in each movie. we do color correction for motion pictures. we do commercial editing. there has never been the slightest freeze in any of them for 3 years. We also have Apple computers, but we do not prefer the M chip for rendering, because they are very slow in rendering compared to the PC. we use them on set for DIT. moreover, I must say that the mac froze several times during transfers and even corrupted the addressing table (exfat) of a Lacie (2big 28tb thunderbolt4) disk. mac was frozen and we couldn't disconnect the drive. after hardrestart, we lost the drive.
i ready to upgrade my laptop i love resolve, in terms of just performance, i was told mac for timeline speed and performance, and 490 high VRAM handle all the heavy lifting, effects, grades, fusion, ext....much better than apple
When we are producing a product for clients on a limited deadline, reliability is far more important than raw speed. It doesn’t matter how fast it may be. If the next time you press a button always comes with a crash looming around the corner, the entire experience would suffer.
Thank you for a such a brilliant review! Would you recommend this version (16/40 +48Gb RAM) for 4k multicam (3 or 4 cameras with h.264, 60 fps, 120 fps occasionally) or should I go for 64Gb version? For now my m1 pro 8/14 +16RAM is on limits :) So I'm trying to figure it out which option is best bang for a buck (max series netween m1-m2-m3). The only question is amount of RAM
Thanks for watching! For RAM I would say 32gb absolute minimum, I'm fine with 48gb - I'm never RAM starved but it's also pretty close to full. I think it's the sweetspot. 64gb would be optimal for peace of mind if you can swing it. Anything above 64 is an overkill for video.
Well for a guy that is not a tech reviewer. I do say this is the best approach to a topic that I have investigated heavily as I am in the market to purchase this laptop to start my channel and learn to code. I think this review as assured my thoughts in the purchase of a M3 max. I have one question and why Davince Resolve and not Final Cut Pro since you are using the Mac. I know a lot of creators have switched to Davince but I’m curious on your thoughts.
Hey thx for watching! I switched to Davinci 4-5 years ago, well before I even considered a Mac. For me 50% of image making is in post production, so I'll choose whatever package offers the most robust colour grading tools. With time Davinci became a very capable editing suite too, I edited complex film projects in it with great success. I also learned the basics of Fusion and Firelight. I like having all those tools in one app with no subscription. I'm still paying Adobe for other apps though. Final Cut is fine and I know a lot of high profile creators use it (MKBHD) but I don't see a single reason to even consider it. It's not a "why not" question, but a "why yes" question. For me it's not "Pro" enough and I don't see Apple really pushing and upgrading it as BMD does with DVR. You can edit a youtube video just fine in FCPX but I want to use a suite that is up to film industry standard and can handle a feature film if need be.
Great video! I'm a windows user and thought that davinci resolve didnt run to smooth on my machine. Now looking at your PC specs I know its not me its Resolve. I am looking to buy the m2 or m3 max. Do you think thres a big difference between m2 and m3 max?
This video is underrated in terms of views it got so far. Apparently it hit home with many people, so it did for me as an aspiring editor. Especially the Quality of Life comments nudge me furthet towards considering a fullspec macbook. Especially since this comes from you as an experienced editor and generally PC guy, the commentary you gave is highly valuable to me, since I have never used an apple product. Just one question: the price difference is quite intense at about 2x. Do you think that reallife review would hold up comparing a maximally specced out desktop PC with hardware geared towards this usecase (not gaming) at the same pricepoint? Would such a 5grand PC still have no significant performance benefit over the macbook because of the software compatibility and apple apparently doing a lot of thinga right with how their processing works?
Thanks for the nice words, appreciate it! As for your question, it's hard to answer. Consider the fact that you're still comparing a monster desktop rig and a thin and light laptop. The power / footprint / portability / aesthetics still work out in favour of MBP. Regarding gaming vs editing rig - I don't really see what the difference would be apart from gamer-y RGB crap on the outside. NVIDIA makes Quattro cards but I don't really see anybody using them. Maybe they're more stable? Who knows. Another thing would be a creator-focused Mobo with 10g eth ports, but you can get that as just a PCI-E expansion card also. In short, I have no idea, but I'll tell you this. Months have passed since I made that review and my only regret is that I didn't make the switch sooner. I love this machine. It's rock solid. The 2x price is worth it for me.
@@shagral Thank you for taking the time to answer in such detail. These are good points. Since I want to use it primarily for resolve studio, the hammer has fallen due to your measured perspective :-)
Hi, nice video! I wanna ask how fast the speed warp is. I use speed warp to create slow motion a lot. I have M1 Max Macbook pro 16, rtx3090, rtx4090 and I would say both rtx card wipe the floor with M1 Max in speed warp, like 3days and 3hours difference. I'm curious about the speed on M3 Max.
I agree with your real world comparisons vs. benchmarks. I have a 16” M1 Max and timeline performance is my priority when working with DR 19. Dongling SSDs for each project to my M1 is really a nice way to store DR media files by project. No media files clogging my M1 internal drive. Looking forward to a possible M4 upgrade this Fall.
My 12-core Threadripper with GTX 4080 (59 neural engines) does not crash. I don't have games on it. It's cobbled together with refurbed top components that are very stable. 15 -minute drama (TimeCode synced sound) loaded with half dozen grading nodes and Fusion VFX renders 4K deliverable in 6 minutes. Winning world festivals since 2011.
Mine is an 18 core intel with RTX3090 and plenty of memory built with very robust power supply and other components and it rarely crashes in Davinci Reaolve. I use it for professional color grading and Fusion nearly everyday for work.
Wow Great video. Really enjoyed you take on things. Same as mine. I am brand new to Mac as a pro content creator. PC for 3 decades. Was blind but now I see. I use Adobe mostly and grade often in Resolve. I posted this below the other day. I only want to help. VIDEO EDITORS READ THIS: After buying 3 windows laptops in the last 6 months for video editing I landed on MacBook pro max with 48GB ram and 1TB. I bought the $4000 dollar Dell precision which I returned as it was a dog and riddled with problems. Then I bought 2 Lenovo's both loaded with 64gb of ram, one with the RTX4080 and one with the RTX4090. Sent them both back. I thought if I'm going to spend this kind of doe, I better be in video editing heaven. It was far from it, heartbroken and in disbelief. No way I thought I am giving up. I'm going to try one more time and I ordered a Mac M2 pro max refurbished. I never wanted to learned a new system (is was easy), but I thought what the hell, give it a try. It was the best decision I ever made as using this MacBook was indeed editing heaven. NIGHT and DAY. I was so blown away I ordered the M3 max and I had them both together for 2 weeks. I was a madman studying and testing. The M2 had 64GB of Ram as opposed to the M3 with 48GB. Performance wise I found the M2 to do very well and similar to the M3 performance. Both kicking butt. I ended up sending the M2 back and there is no comparison to windows in my experience to windows laptops. The very top of the line windows laptop cannot even sit in the same room as a MacBook Pro max. I am very experienced and took the time for a decade or more trying to find the ultimate editing station. For video editing (I never game) If you hear RUclipsrs trying to say differently, they are BS ing and most likely self serving. I am far far from a Mac fan boy. Just telling you the experience I had. I took all this time to write this to help some poor Bast__d like me avoid the 6 month nightmare I endured. But in the end I won. :)
i use resolve for editing currently on a aero 380 i9, its alright but im ready to upgrade. looking at the raser oled 4090, isnt oled the best for colors and viewing. who care about brightness aslong as its bright enough. might wait for the 50series. resolve works better with high VRAM & GPU power i as told. mac works better for timeline performance.
@@PartyintheAM I had 12 grand into three PC laptops for grand each give or take. The last thing I wanted. To do in the world with switch and leave windows. I insisted I would never do that. I had the most powerful windows machines with the 490 and 64 gigs of ram three SSD’s internally in my Dell precision. None of them cut it. I sent everyone back, and then I decided to give Mack a try.. within 15 minutes it was like I found and was touched by God himself. I was blown away and I’m blown away every day they are lying to you forget about all that nonsense. The max screen is awesome. I don’t know what else to say, I suffered and suffered this out for myself
Thanks for this video, finally someone who focuses on Resolve and the M3Max. I‘m in a similar situation, my PC has similar specs but I want to go back to Mac and have the portability + advantage of ProRes rendering and so on… How much Ram would you suggest for Color Grading? Did you notice any heat or fan noise when pushing it to the limits? (I also do a lot of audio recording and this is important to me). Thank you
Hey thanks for watching! For RAM I would say no less than 32gb and no more than 64gb. If you do a lot of Fusion than 64 would be advised. As for fan noise, it's highly subjective, depends on what you deem acceptable. The laptop does get warm and fans do kick in when editing but it's very quiet and the fan eases in and out gently. It gets reasonably audible when rendering out a project. But nowhere near as loud as when gaming. When gaming (BG3) it goes at constant 100% and you can really hear it like a PS4/5, but then again, somehow it's quieter and less annoying than I would expect. Probably because there is no higher frequencies, no coil whine, it just sounds whispery like the wind rustling or white noise. Overall I'm very happy with noise and heat levels and I actually kinda like the feedback that the laptop is doing something resource intensive. But I don't record audio and I edit mostly in headphones, so YMMV
I'm also in the same situation, currently on a mid-tier PC, and planning to make a switch to a Macbook full-time for editing and coloring mostly in Resolve so I really appreciate this video. After digging through the web trying to figure out what spec should I buy I noticed, that some reviews reported that the maxed-out M3 max is actually not that much better compared to the M1 max in real-life resolve timeline performance. I'm only interested in practical performance for my work, which is Davinci Resolve, Premiere Pro, occasionally After Effects for video work, and Lightroom and Photoshop for the stills. I don't really care about export times, but rather timeline performance, especially with heavy grading done on the clips. I found a fair deal for an M1 Max 10/32/64GB/4TB model for nearly half of the price of what a M3 Max 16/40/128GB/4TB would cost and now I'm torn about which one to choose between these two. I plan on keeping the computer at least for the next 4 to 5 years, and it will be my only workstation for a while. I don't mind spending the extra money for the M3 if it's significantly better, but it would be nice to save a fair bit of cash for the same performance. What is your take on this? Do you have maybe experience with the M1?
I'd say if you have a really good deal for M1 Max, go for it. I don't have personal experience with M1 but I definitely heard a lot of the same feedback (that M1 Max to M3 Max is not a big enough upgrade in practical terms). Myself, I don't have access to such deals so I decided to go for the latest and greatest to maximise its lifespan. It's my theory that expensive tech should either be bought right away to milk the most useful life out of it and then sold; or few years later when it's deeply discounted or used. M1 Max / Ultra was so good that people aren't upgrading. So I would go for it. Other than the chip it's the same great laptop that I reviewed. I'm sure you'll get at least 3-4 years out of it unless camera tech takes some kind of giant leap (which I doubt). Plus whatever further optimisations will come from Blackmagic for M-series Macs, you will get them as well.
I've been actively avoiding using DR on Windows ever since voice isolation was introduced to DR, because using this feature on Windows used to cause significant lag to the audio and it was impossible to edit. I wish I could justify a Mac but I can't. So I run DR on Linux full time now. It's even faster to render on Linux than on WIndows, and most importantly, it almost never crashed.
Very nice video! I am considering the switch from a 2020 iMac 27" 72 GB Ram, 8-core i7, AMD Radeon 5700 XT 16 GB to the MacBook Pro for my Resolve/Adobe post-production. I'm considering van life and the iMac isn't exactly road-friendly. Your video was exactly what I needed to see. Thank you!
11:30 How long do you wait usually when Windows tells you that a program is non-responsive? I'm asking because SolidWorks sometimes can take 5-15minutes(Yes, that much, had 50 minute long save too at ~50k components) to do something. The program didn't crash, it's just that Windows is asking it to report progress but the program is too busy doing a certain task that makes it unresponsive... What I'm trying to ask/say is: Are you sure DaVinci isn't just taking too long to do something? Are you sure that it is crashed? From the B-roll you inserted it seems like it just hangs, not that it crashed...
ergonomics to enhance your ARM laptop at home (ext keyboard & screens, books to raise it up, mouse). but the most added value is unplugged, on the go. 16’’ M1 Max MBPro 32 GPU 32GB/4TB, will last some more years before M5/M6 Max or gen3 Snapdragon Elite X.
You can spend 5000 USD on a Macbook Pro with M3 Max and some extra ram or ssd. For that kind of money, you can get a monster Windows PC that is much faster than Mac, for gaming, video editing, and 3D Modeling with Blender or Maya. Most professional editors are using Avid, Premiere Pro, or Davinci Resolve. And all of those run superbly on a 24-core Ryzen processor with NVidia RTX 4090. Windows PC is truly the Ferrari in this comparison.
@@przwrz 'Workstation' ? Workstations are used by serious professionals, doing serious work. Nobody is going to do serious work on a laptop with small screen, no mouse, and a weak keyboard. Desktop computer (PC or Mac) is far superior.
You're correct to flag the PC performance reliability for Resolve. I work in a post production facility in London, and we only trust MAC and Linux for Resolve, we've also had such conversation with BlackMagic reps who visted the facilitys and also recommended Mac/Linux
Plugged. But TBH i didn't notice any performance difference when video editing. When gaming - yes, plugging in makes a noticeable (and audible) difference.
Я долго думал включать это в видео или нет, но в результате решил не включать, потому что это не проблема данного ноута, а проблема MacOS в целом, и про нее быстро не рассказать. Я еще не решил, но думаю, не буду на эту тему делать видео, так как и так слишком много контента по ней, а решений по-прежнему нет, есть только обходные пути.
That is some great & objective review form your own perspective and real life experience. I particularly liked the jab on the "fan boy" Apple people that I find completely insufferable when I hear them yapping and yapping about their veneration for Apple...
Ain't no windows fanboy nor Mac. And if I had the money I would probably bye and Mac book with the proper specs. Portability would be nice. However I do wonder about your drivers. I'm running a very similar PC system and resolve almost never crashes. I use lots of effects crazy timelines color grades, all that. As for magic mask. It has problems. However it does work well just slower than I would like and sometimes I have to redo it. And when I'm really going crazy with magic mask an denoising I'll put it in its own timeline and do what I need to with that clip render it out in DNXhr. Then put it back in the project. Not ideal but it works. Anyway just saying. Enjoy your videos great stuff.
Thanks for watching! Re: magic mask, it works but 9/10 times I'll just do it faster (and a lot of times better) with basic-ass power window & tracking. Same goes for Relight and stuff like that. But horses for courses. The beauty of Resolve is that you can reach the same result a lot of different ways
The M3Max GPUs are much better than M1-2 MAx for Resolve since it's GPU accelerated. However, encoder engines are the same so the encoding time would be same if you use Handbrake. If your apps don't use much GPU, hardware raytracing, then M1max , M2max are fine. I did notice some apps are not optimized for M3Max yet so it would be better over time. Some users won't see a big difference if their apps don't take advantage of the hardware. Eg. Audio editing, Photo editing. Blender 3d is really good on M3Max 40 GPU. It's almost as fast as my desktop 3090.
Your timeline switching on the windows machine is bizarre. Takes something like 2-5 seconds depending on footage. 3090, 5090x, 32GB ram, NVME OS and NVME separate Resolve DB
4:20 Honestly, lugging around a 16-inch MacBook Pro should not be a big deal for a man, especially when you're used to carrying a 7 to 8kg backpack to the office every day. The key is to have a good quality backpack with thick, comfy, soft shoulder pad. I've been rocking this beast since 2019 and recently get the M3 Pro 16", and it's been a game-changer. Sure, most of my work happens at home, hooked up to a massive 38-inch monitor, but that's just part of the story. When I'm out and about, maybe chilling at a coffee shop or getting some quiet time in the library, the 16-inch screen is a total lifesaver. Juggling multiple windows? No sweat. And let's not forget the battery life - it's a knockout, way better than the 14-inch model. So, yeah, it's a little bit hefty, but totally worth it for the muscle it brings to my workflow. And hey, before anyone points out the whole ‘A 16” MacBook Pro is too big for an economy class tray table' thing - I totally get it. But here's the kicker: I don't use my MBP and keep it safe in my backpack. When I'm jet-setting, it's all about kicking back - no work, all play. I switch gears to my iPad Pro, plug into my Bose ANC headset, and dive into some action movies. So, yeah, the 16-inch Mac is a bit of a unit, but for everything it brings to the table, it's a no-brainer for me. 🤣
The main reason people go for 14 inch is that both 16 inch and 14 inch are equally tiny and un ergonomic for full work days. Both require plugging into an external display to work 6-14 hours at home or at the office. So for me for example the extra weight is not worth it, especially when my camera bag is already so heavy.
Oh, for sure, there's a noticeable difference between the 14" and 16". I used to have a 15" MBP from 2015, but in 2019, I switched to the 16" MBP and man, I haven't looked back. Recently, I even upgraded to the M3 Pro 16" model. Before I got it, I popped into the Apple Store to check out both the 14" and 16" models. Playing around with them side by side really sealed the deal for me. The bigger screen, longer battery life, and improved cooling on the 16" just make it a no-brainer for me. If the long battery life of the 16” M3 Pro MBP is still not enough, I have my Shargeek 170 with massive 170W max output to squirt extra juice.
Слушай, я сейчас жду GPU, 14600k+4070Super конфиг ПК. Есть ли смысл позже докупить 16' M3 Max базовый на 30C? Сейчас у меня 14'' на M1 Pro - совсем не вывозит Диван :) Вот я кстати наоборот юзаю маски, титры, и т.п. Круто снимаешь и круто показываешь именно работу в самой монтажке, видеоряд с набитой рукой отснят - продолжай дальше
Спасибо! Если есть бюджет и потребность, то конечно стоит. Pro линия она для дизайнеров и фотографов, как я себе это вижу, а для видео и графики нужен Max.
How does the davinci 1080p timeline 4k output work? Is the footage 1080p and you're just upscaling it? Or is this something you're doing to get better timeline performance? How is this different from working in a 4k timeline with 1/2 timeline playback resolution enabled? Also if you're editing 4k in a 1080p timeline, when exporting to 4k are we sure we get the original 4k pixels or is it upscaling a downscaled 4k back to 4k?
Granted with apple you have to spend $/£5000 cause you need the ram and storage unless you're web browsing. I had a base m3 pro macbook pro (18/512) on which resolve was crashing multiple times daily, and both resolve and lightroom were becoming laggy due to ram starvation. (18 is a joke for professional applications)
So, in my hobby opinion, it is a great video overall. I have been using computers for over 47 years now. I just got a Mac computer three years ago and love it. No, I don't make a living doing video editing, so this is just for people who make home videos for family and friends. For the PC users, as stated in the video, if your gamer sticks to the PC, my fingers need to be faster for any actual games. What would be a good fit for Mac? First, you want a great OS; yep, that's my thought! If you are using DR, then yes, it's better to optimize for Mac; overall, for a hobbyist, it can be cheaper than a PC. I ran DR on a PC, and most of the stuff inside was 3-4 years old. Upgrading to what I needed for the video card was $800 back then. I got a Mac mini with 16GB RAM and a base 256GB HD (I use a 2 TB external for all the assets for my videos and storage). This has worked great, but it gets a lot harder as I do more VFX work. If you don't need a laptop, the Studio has a better price point and has more RAM options. Again, this was the fairest non-fan-boy video I have ever seen. Maybe in a couple years, you could try a Studio vs PC
nice video bro. As life time windows user I hate macs. Even when I have to use it for the last 4 years and realise that it just that good and work. I am still hoping there will be a windows laptop that will be better than mac laptop for resolve so I don't have use my Mac anymore. hehehe.
Switch to Linux and have the power of the PC for a modest price if you're mostly stationary anyway or on a budget. If you're always on the go and can find it on sale or refurbished then go for the Mac. Refuse to pay full price for apple but Windows PC is intolerable.
Yo estoy de acuerdo y no. Actualmente tengo un Mac Studio M2 Ultra y un Pc con una RTX4090. Sinceramente, tengo mas problemas en la linea de tiempo con el Mac Studio que con el PC. Aunque me parece que es debido a un ssd externo que utilizo. No me siento identificado con esos problemas en DR con Pc. De hecho, yo no los tengo. El M2 Ultra es una bestia, pero la RTX 4090 y el Ryzen 9 7950X que tengo, destrozan al Mac Studio en tiempos de renderizacion, exportación, magic mask y scroll en linea de tiempo con archivos RAW LT. Supongo que el PC es suerte o tener actualizados todos los controladores y asegurarse de que todos sean compatibles entre si. De todos modos, el MBP M3 es increiblemente potente, pero no sustituye mi configuración de Windows ni de lejos. Ademas, he visto como mis 2 portatiles que tengo MBP 16" han caido en rendimiento en cuestión de 2 años.
Please don't buy MACs if you don't have very high income, you will be crying with that low storage and RAM, for professional work with heavy graphics design or vfx you need max storage and max ram, working with external ssd is not an option trust me I have used, get a maxed PC at 1/3 of price of maxed out MAC.
brother did a mac review into a crime investigation interview. 10/10
Only experienced users will feel in their bones the truth oozing from this review. Daily workflow plagued by errors and sudden crashes is something that every heavy user dealing with graphics on Windows PC knows. After some time everyone comes to the conclusion that life is not only about pure raw power but mostly about smooth sailing and general pleasant experience. Mac offers that peace and lets you enjoy life outside the working hours unlike PC which makes you want to surrender to the horizontal position on your bed until the next round of uphill battle. Maybe I’m jaded after 3 decades with multiple PC workstations but I know that every time I owned a Mac my life got brighter and I enjoyed my time spent with the computer and often felt inspired to create. To me this is priceless. I’m getting maxed out m3 Max MBP 16 next month. It’s been too long. BTW, great review👍
Actually this is not correct. I have a beefy Windows based system and haven't had resolve crash more than once per week. I have fast timeline perforce with heavy power grades (NR off) and export times are pretty good. (minute and half video at 4 mins and half export time, powergrade with NR for UHD BRAW/h265 timeline). Trade off? Well size and power consumption are pretty ridiculous. Long term, the mac will recuperate some energy bills cost.
This whole thing crashing with Windows is as big as locking up and slow downs of Macbooks after a year or two of use.
Still, Mac > all other laptops.
Windows is not like before, the crashes are lower, you just need little technical knowledge.
I've been building and using every version of Windows since 3.11 and, trust me, you have no idea what pain and crashes are if you've never experienced Windows ME(Millennium Edition). My Win 11 system has been rock solid for almost three years after I determined early on that motherboard drivers were the problem. You either have a poorly matched/configured system or driver problems. I seriously doubt that the problem lies with Windows or Davinci Resolve.
I have two macs and this some bs. I recently went back to Windows. And the difference in how snappy windows feels compares to Mac is night and day. Mac feels boring and monotone, windows makes stuff interesting. If they can fix the battery and power issue, I will honestly never use a Mac again if I don't have to.
@@kolecava i agree.. the last time i had a crash on my pc that i built last december was back in march this year. The problem with most pc users is that they sacrifice stability for performance.
Thanks for not doing stupid benchmark test and actually showing the user experience! ❤
Was going to write a comment that without watching the whole video, literally the first 2 minutes hit home - whole video hits home like mad ..
Many people who don't do this professionally don't know the literal frustration of the apps not being optimized for your system and even more so the "small" annoyances and things such as AI tools and all other stuff working faster on Mac but day to day, project after project - you have no idea how massive this difference is hence why Mac is so much better.
Thanks a lot for this video! It literally covered EXACTLY what every photo/video editor wanted to see and hear - nobody cares about render times indeed.
The video literally conveys to a perfection what switching from a Windows PC to a Macbook for editing is like :) And yes, it's so much better despite the Apple tax.
Has somebody who has watched countless hours of videos on Mac computers, I am incredibly grateful that you did this video because this is the exact performance metric that I am trying to find out. I have a 14700k, 128gb ran, 3080 pc and I've been curious about the real world playback in comparison so thank you for this great video
In terms of performance, your workstation will be better than the mac, but you do loose the convenience.
This was a great video. It was exactly what I was looking for. I just bought the m3 max too and I love it. In most of my use cases, it’s working great with the occasional hiccups. However, the Mac user experience is way better imo. I was on Mac and had to switch to pc a few years back just because i couldn’t afford a Mac upgrade. Recently I just went for it with the m3 max and I love that I can pull it out and work unplugged anywhere on battery and it’s so quiet! Also, I love the little things, like simply being able to airdrop some clips and exports to my phone for immediate render reviews. I could go on, but I’m just repeating what you’ve already said.
I have a friend that got a ProArt laptop. I can hear his fans from 2 cubicles away. Its feature rich and has everything you could put in a laptop. But it will not last. The fan noise alone will drive me crazy. You get more "stuff" on the PC side. But at least for me. It's never mattered. What matters to me is that it works well and is reliable. Quiet and can run at full tilt on battery. My older intel Macbook couldn't do that well at all. Either in fact. The M chips are fantastic. You get all of its power even on battery. You can take it to a client and not plug it in to do your work. And like you said, you can live a dongle free life (more money of course). But, its clean and profesional. That's worth the money.
I'm on an M2 Max (one month before M3 came out). And I'm perfectly happy with it. Thanks for the video.
I was actually about to buy an M2 Max, even ordered it, but the configuration was unavailable so I had to wait. And while I waited the M3 Max hit the store shelves and they upgraded my order. So I'm a happy camper. But other than the darker color and a slight spec bump, it's the same great machine, so M2 owners shouldn't worry at all.
I can understand wanting the macbook over the pro art for battery life and lower fan noise but why do you suggest the pro art will not last? I doubt it will last a day less than your macbook. If the ssd in your macbook ever dies it's game over, you can't even boot from external drive because BIOS is kept on the main ssd instead of on a seperate bios chip like on every other computer.
Great video! Thanks for answering the questions we all had.
You're welcome! Thx for watching
Best review I’ve watched. To the point and without hyperbole - really refreshing. Subscribed!
Awesome, thank you!
What a great review! thanks for sharing, waiting for my 16' M3 I ordered and posting my PC for sale. You getting a new subscriber here, thanks again.
Welcome aboard! Thx
more than 10 years working everyday Davinci (MacOs, Windows, Linux... ).
I choose windows for "real" work.
Mate, great reviee! Glad someone acuallu did a real review! Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
The exact same review video I was looking for…thanks for giving your genuine review and opinion 👏🏾
A review with no BS. Subscribed
Great job on this review. This was very helpful.
Thanks for your response. I have been waiting to try resolve but my old Intel Mac is not compatible so I look forward to trying it I have watched many tutorials and do have a pretty good grasp on it but not the same until you actually use it. I will try the free version for a bit before I take the plunge but I can see myself going for it. Again awesome video I have subscribed and givin this one a thumbs up and look forward to more of your content. My hats off to you from Ontario Canada!
Thank you for the great review! This help me decide not to get MAC M3 Max.
We have an almost the same PC specs by just knowing that there is not much of performance gain is already enough for me to not switch.
I built my PC almost 3-4 years ago and spending that amount of money without getting a significant performance gain is like getting stuck to 3-4 years ago technology.
You are just too good. The review is exactly what not only I but a lot of other people were looking for.
And the quality is top notch. I hope and pray you grow a lot on YT so we can get better content.
also I am pulling the trigger on MBP M3 Max after this video
Thanks for such high praise!
Nice one. Thanks for not solely doing render tests. I render on break or when I sleep. I sit on the timeline all day long.
I am a little disappointed that it can't handle NR and grain and play back in real time. I'm using a Mac Pro 5,1 (vega 56, 48gb ram, NVME) and while the performance on the M3 Max appears a little better, I can run 7fps or so on my machine with similar effects. Although I am using braw - not sure how big a difference would be there...
Also, as both PC and Mac user mac OS and general stability is FAR FAR better, though you sacrifice upgradability.
I keep lusting after a powerful Mac laptop (as I hate being completely strapped to the desk) and every time Apple releases a new chip I get excited, then I see the timeline performance and think... meh,. Feels like my expectations should be realistic, using a 15 year old 5,1. Like you say in the video 'what a time to be alive' - indeed - but maybe tech is plateauing in terms of usability. Though I do wonder if Blackmagic will be optimising Resolve for Apple silicone more?
I definitely feel like there's room for further optimisations from BMD, especially for ML-based tools like magic mask, depth map etc. I don't think they are currently taking advantage of the hardware. As for timeline performance, I tested "the worst case" scenario. In real life editing I would enable node cache on NR, would work with Dehancer node turned off (and turn in on before rendering). And for a long-term project (a film) I would take the time to make ProRes proxies. At least after I'm done with selects and cutdowns. The ProRes thing is the key. It always was the best codec for postproduction but on this machine it's like on another level. Made me think about investing in a ProRes RAW workflow.... But I hate Atomos products, so I keep waiting for alternatives.
Thank you for this! A great breakdown of everything that is relevant to me. I am hoping the studio can come out soon with the M3 Max chip.
This was a VERY good video man. Thank you
Welcome! Thanks for watching
14:25 You mention all day battery life? I returned my base 14 inch m3 pro macbook pro (18/512) but when using it I had to charge it 3 times a day while working at my desk. I may have been getting good battery life with like safari web browsing but with either resolve or lightroom open, even in the background I'd get like 3-5 hours battery life which is still impressive compared to powerful windows laptops but that's not all day by any means.
How much battery life are you getting when working in resolve?
To each his own, I'm back with Windows and have no regrets. At the beginning of my experience on the pre-built PC that I bought almost three years ago now, I did experience Davinci Resolve crashes that led to such system corruption that I couldn't restore and had to do a fresh install. I went completely basic with the drivers and installed no motherboard drivers, only Nvidia Studio drivers and I never had a problem again since then no matter how hard I pushed the editing and effects. I would suggest that anyone having crashes try the same.
This was a great presentation - you could have presented anything and I would have watched. Good job!
Thank you!
Great review. I want to compliment your review style. I got used to a lot of reviewers emulating Marques Brownlee, but your style felt unique and overall well executed. Good stuff
Thank you!
First off, great, well thought out review. Just want to say we run a Pc with a 13700 and a 4090. Run studio drivers, and almost never get crashes. You need to have a intel cpu, with the integrated GPU to get the h.265 4.2 2. acceleration like mac has.
Just wanted to throw my experience out there. And yes, we do crazy editing too.
Спасибо, интересно.
Вопрос: вижу, что вы используете мышь. Я сейчас монтирую на трекпаде. Если у вас есть опыт работы в давинчи на трекпаде, как бы вы оценили работу с мышью? Рекомендовали бы перейти на мышь?
Я думаю это вопрос привычки и личных предпочтений. Для меня мышка это самый быстрый, точный и удобный инструмент ввода. Некоторые вещи на трекпаде мне делать неудобно, например перетаскивать что-то. Но трекпад на макбуке потрясающий, и я им пользуюсь все время, когда не работаю с видео или графикой.
in our office we use resolve on 5 different pc's. we transfer close to 30TB of raw data in each movie. we do color correction for motion pictures. we do commercial editing. there has never been the slightest freeze in any of them for 3 years. We also have Apple computers, but we do not prefer the M chip for rendering, because they are very slow in rendering compared to the PC. we use them on set for DIT. moreover, I must say that the mac froze several times during transfers and even corrupted the addressing table (exfat) of a Lacie (2big 28tb thunderbolt4) disk. mac was frozen and we couldn't disconnect the drive. after hardrestart, we lost the drive.
i ready to upgrade my laptop i love resolve, in terms of just performance, i was told mac for timeline speed and performance, and 490 high VRAM handle all the heavy lifting, effects, grades, fusion, ext....much better than apple
@@PartyintheAM any laptop with 4090 will beat M3 max in any condition, no exception. They are not in same league.
When we are producing a product for clients on a limited deadline, reliability is far more important than raw speed. It doesn’t matter how fast it may be. If the next time you press a button always comes with a crash looming around the corner, the entire experience would suffer.
Thank you for a such a brilliant review!
Would you recommend this version (16/40 +48Gb RAM) for 4k multicam (3 or 4 cameras with h.264, 60 fps, 120 fps occasionally) or should I go for 64Gb version? For now my m1 pro 8/14 +16RAM is on limits :) So I'm trying to figure it out which option is best bang for a buck (max series netween m1-m2-m3).
The only question is amount of RAM
Thanks for watching! For RAM I would say 32gb absolute minimum, I'm fine with 48gb - I'm never RAM starved but it's also pretty close to full. I think it's the sweetspot. 64gb would be optimal for peace of mind if you can swing it. Anything above 64 is an overkill for video.
@@shagral thanks again, it was very helpful!
Well for a guy that is not a tech reviewer. I do say this is the best approach to a topic that I have investigated heavily as I am in the market to purchase this laptop to start my channel and learn to code. I think this review as assured my thoughts in the purchase of a M3 max. I have one question and why Davince Resolve and not Final Cut Pro since you are using the Mac. I know a lot of creators have switched to Davince but I’m curious on your thoughts.
Hey thx for watching! I switched to Davinci 4-5 years ago, well before I even considered a Mac. For me 50% of image making is in post production, so I'll choose whatever package offers the most robust colour grading tools. With time Davinci became a very capable editing suite too, I edited complex film projects in it with great success. I also learned the basics of Fusion and Firelight. I like having all those tools in one app with no subscription. I'm still paying Adobe for other apps though. Final Cut is fine and I know a lot of high profile creators use it (MKBHD) but I don't see a single reason to even consider it. It's not a "why not" question, but a "why yes" question. For me it's not "Pro" enough and I don't see Apple really pushing and upgrading it as BMD does with DVR. You can edit a youtube video just fine in FCPX but I want to use a suite that is up to film industry standard and can handle a feature film if need be.
Great video! I'm a windows user and thought that davinci resolve didnt run to smooth on my machine. Now looking at your PC specs I know its not me its Resolve. I am looking to buy the m2 or m3 max. Do you think thres a big difference between m2 and m3 max?
If you can get a good deal on m2 max, take it, the difference is small.
This video is underrated in terms of views it got so far.
Apparently it hit home with many people, so it did for me as an aspiring editor.
Especially the Quality of Life comments nudge me furthet towards considering a fullspec macbook. Especially since this comes from you as an experienced editor and generally PC guy, the commentary you gave is highly valuable to me, since I have never used an apple product.
Just one question: the price difference is quite intense at about 2x. Do you think that reallife review would hold up comparing a maximally specced out desktop PC with hardware geared towards this usecase (not gaming) at the same pricepoint? Would such a 5grand PC still have no significant performance benefit over the macbook because of the software compatibility and apple apparently doing a lot of thinga right with how their processing works?
Thanks for the nice words, appreciate it!
As for your question, it's hard to answer. Consider the fact that you're still comparing a monster desktop rig and a thin and light laptop. The power / footprint / portability / aesthetics still work out in favour of MBP. Regarding gaming vs editing rig - I don't really see what the difference would be apart from gamer-y RGB crap on the outside. NVIDIA makes Quattro cards but I don't really see anybody using them. Maybe they're more stable? Who knows. Another thing would be a creator-focused Mobo with 10g eth ports, but you can get that as just a PCI-E expansion card also.
In short, I have no idea, but I'll tell you this. Months have passed since I made that review and my only regret is that I didn't make the switch sooner. I love this machine. It's rock solid. The 2x price is worth it for me.
@@shagral Thank you for taking the time to answer in such detail. These are good points. Since I want to use it primarily for resolve studio, the hammer has fallen due to your measured perspective :-)
such an amazing review! Thank you!
My pleasure!
Hi, nice video! I wanna ask how fast the speed warp is. I use speed warp to create slow motion a lot. I have M1 Max Macbook pro 16, rtx3090, rtx4090 and I would say both rtx card wipe the floor with M1 Max in speed warp, like 3days and 3hours difference. I'm curious about the speed on M3 Max.
This was the best review !
Thank you!
I agree with your real world comparisons vs. benchmarks. I have a 16” M1 Max and timeline performance is my priority when working with DR 19. Dongling SSDs for each project to my M1 is really a nice way to store DR media files by project. No media files clogging my M1 internal drive. Looking forward to a possible M4 upgrade this Fall.
The crashing stuff is definitely gonna piss me off especially when you into your project. Great review
But wait! ...in a few weeks the m4 max will be out...and it will be EVEN BETTER! Never ending :)
My 12-core Threadripper with GTX 4080 (59 neural engines) does not crash. I don't have games on it.
It's cobbled together with refurbed top components that are very stable. 15 -minute drama (TimeCode synced sound) loaded with half dozen grading nodes and Fusion VFX renders 4K deliverable in 6 minutes. Winning world festivals since 2011.
Mine is an 18 core intel with RTX3090 and plenty of memory built with very robust power supply and other components and it rarely crashes in Davinci Reaolve. I use it for professional color grading and Fusion nearly everyday for work.
Wow Great video. Really enjoyed you take on things. Same as mine. I am brand new to Mac as a pro content creator. PC for 3 decades. Was blind but now I see. I use Adobe mostly and grade often in Resolve. I posted this below the other day. I only want to help. VIDEO EDITORS READ THIS: After buying 3 windows laptops in the last 6 months for video editing I landed on MacBook pro max with 48GB ram and 1TB. I bought the $4000 dollar Dell precision which I returned as it was a dog and riddled with problems. Then I bought 2 Lenovo's both loaded with 64gb of ram, one with the RTX4080 and one with the RTX4090. Sent them both back. I thought if I'm going to spend this kind of doe, I better be in video editing heaven. It was far from it, heartbroken and in disbelief. No way I thought I am giving up. I'm going to try one more time and I ordered a Mac M2 pro max refurbished. I never wanted to learned a new system (is was easy), but I thought what the hell, give it a try. It was the best decision I ever made as using this MacBook was indeed editing heaven. NIGHT and DAY. I was so blown away I ordered the M3 max and I had them both together for 2 weeks. I was a madman studying and testing. The M2 had 64GB of Ram as opposed to the M3 with 48GB. Performance wise I found the M2 to do very well and similar to the M3 performance. Both kicking butt. I ended up sending the M2 back and there is no comparison to windows in my experience to windows laptops. The very top of the line windows laptop cannot even sit in the same room as a MacBook Pro max. I am very experienced and took the time for a decade or more trying to find the ultimate editing station. For video editing (I never game) If you hear RUclipsrs trying to say differently, they are BS ing and most likely self serving. I am far far from a Mac fan boy. Just telling you the experience I had. I took all this time to write this to help some poor Bast__d like me avoid the 6 month nightmare I endured. But in the end I won. :)
Thanks for watching! Glad it worked out for you too
i use resolve for editing currently on a aero 380 i9, its alright but im ready to upgrade. looking at the raser oled 4090, isnt oled the best for colors and viewing. who care about brightness aslong as its bright enough. might wait for the 50series. resolve works better with high VRAM & GPU power i as told. mac works better for timeline performance.
@@PartyintheAM I had 12 grand into three PC laptops for grand each give or take. The last thing I wanted. To do in the world with switch and leave windows. I insisted I would never do that. I had the most powerful windows machines with the 490 and 64 gigs of ram three SSD’s internally in my Dell precision. None of them cut it. I sent everyone back, and then I decided to give Mack a try.. within 15 minutes it was like I found and was touched by God himself. I was blown away and I’m blown away every day they are lying to you forget about all that nonsense. The max screen is awesome. I don’t know what else to say, I suffered and suffered this out for myself
Thanks for this video, finally someone who focuses on Resolve and the M3Max.
I‘m in a similar situation, my PC has similar specs but I want to go back to Mac and have the portability + advantage of ProRes rendering and so on…
How much Ram would you suggest for Color Grading?
Did you notice any heat or fan noise when pushing it to the limits? (I also do a lot of audio recording and this is important to me). Thank you
Hey thanks for watching! For RAM I would say no less than 32gb and no more than 64gb. If you do a lot of Fusion than 64 would be advised.
As for fan noise, it's highly subjective, depends on what you deem acceptable. The laptop does get warm and fans do kick in when editing but it's very quiet and the fan eases in and out gently. It gets reasonably audible when rendering out a project. But nowhere near as loud as when gaming. When gaming (BG3) it goes at constant 100% and you can really hear it like a PS4/5, but then again, somehow it's quieter and less annoying than I would expect. Probably because there is no higher frequencies, no coil whine, it just sounds whispery like the wind rustling or white noise. Overall I'm very happy with noise and heat levels and I actually kinda like the feedback that the laptop is doing something resource intensive. But I don't record audio and I edit mostly in headphones, so YMMV
I'm also in the same situation, currently on a mid-tier PC, and planning to make a switch to a Macbook full-time for editing and coloring mostly in Resolve so I really appreciate this video. After digging through the web trying to figure out what spec should I buy I noticed, that some reviews reported that the maxed-out M3 max is actually not that much better compared to the M1 max in real-life resolve timeline performance.
I'm only interested in practical performance for my work, which is Davinci Resolve, Premiere Pro, occasionally After Effects for video work, and Lightroom and Photoshop for the stills. I don't really care about export times, but rather timeline performance, especially with heavy grading done on the clips.
I found a fair deal for an M1 Max 10/32/64GB/4TB model for nearly half of the price of what a M3 Max 16/40/128GB/4TB would cost and now I'm torn about which one to choose between these two.
I plan on keeping the computer at least for the next 4 to 5 years, and it will be my only workstation for a while. I don't mind spending the extra money for the M3 if it's significantly better, but it would be nice to save a fair bit of cash for the same performance.
What is your take on this? Do you have maybe experience with the M1?
I'd say if you have a really good deal for M1 Max, go for it. I don't have personal experience with M1 but I definitely heard a lot of the same feedback (that M1 Max to M3 Max is not a big enough upgrade in practical terms). Myself, I don't have access to such deals so I decided to go for the latest and greatest to maximise its lifespan. It's my theory that expensive tech should either be bought right away to milk the most useful life out of it and then sold; or few years later when it's deeply discounted or used. M1 Max / Ultra was so good that people aren't upgrading. So I would go for it. Other than the chip it's the same great laptop that I reviewed. I'm sure you'll get at least 3-4 years out of it unless camera tech takes some kind of giant leap (which I doubt). Plus whatever further optimisations will come from Blackmagic for M-series Macs, you will get them as well.
What were your tracking speeds with magic mask on the PC? They are like 4-7 fps for me on M1 Max
Fun ride…THANK YOU 🎉
Thanks for the review!
a very nice video with real life examples !
I've been actively avoiding using DR on Windows ever since voice isolation was introduced to DR, because using this feature on Windows used to cause significant lag to the audio and it was impossible to edit. I wish I could justify a Mac but I can't. So I run DR on Linux full time now. It's even faster to render on Linux than on WIndows, and most importantly, it almost never crashed.
Works fine on pc though.
Me watching while still using Davinci Resolve with my maxed out 2015 macbook pro.
good video, this tip at the end helped me decide once and for all, thank you
Great to hear!
Very nice video! I am considering the switch from a 2020 iMac 27" 72 GB Ram, 8-core i7, AMD Radeon 5700 XT 16 GB to the MacBook Pro for my Resolve/Adobe post-production. I'm considering van life and the iMac isn't exactly road-friendly. Your video was exactly what I needed to see. Thank you!
You're welcome! Van life sounds like a dream 👍🏻
11:30 How long do you wait usually when Windows tells you that a program is non-responsive? I'm asking because SolidWorks sometimes can take 5-15minutes(Yes, that much, had 50 minute long save too at ~50k components) to do something. The program didn't crash, it's just that Windows is asking it to report progress but the program is too busy doing a certain task that makes it unresponsive... What I'm trying to ask/say is: Are you sure DaVinci isn't just taking too long to do something? Are you sure that it is crashed? From the B-roll you inserted it seems like it just hangs, not that it crashed...
ergonomics to enhance your ARM laptop at home (ext keyboard & screens, books to raise it up, mouse).
but the most added value is unplugged, on the go.
16’’ M1 Max MBPro 32 GPU 32GB/4TB, will last some more years before M5/M6 Max or gen3 Snapdragon Elite X.
amazing video man ! Thank you
Thank you! Glad it helped.
I'm glad that my $1100 pc performs better 😁
You can spend 5000 USD on a Macbook Pro with M3 Max and some extra ram or ssd.
For that kind of money, you can get a monster Windows PC that is much faster than Mac, for gaming, video editing, and 3D Modeling with Blender or Maya.
Most professional editors are using Avid, Premiere Pro, or Davinci Resolve. And all of those run superbly on a 24-core Ryzen processor with NVidia RTX 4090. Windows PC is truly the Ferrari in this comparison.
As a portable workstation?
@@przwrz 'Workstation' ? Workstations are used by serious professionals, doing serious work.
Nobody is going to do serious work on a laptop with small screen, no mouse, and a weak keyboard. Desktop computer (PC or Mac) is far superior.
You're correct to flag the PC performance reliability for Resolve. I work in a post production facility in London, and we only trust MAC and Linux for Resolve, we've also had such conversation with BlackMagic reps who visted the facilitys and also recommended Mac/Linux
That's what I heard time and time again but didn't want to believe it.
6:54 Snapping (magnet symbol) is turned on PC, that's why we see those jumps right?
Really nice review! 👌
Were you testing the mac plugged in or unplugged ?
Plugged. But TBH i didn't notice any performance difference when video editing. When gaming - yes, plugging in makes a noticeable (and audible) difference.
@@shagral Ok, thank you sir
Было бы также интересно увидеть видео о том как вы справляетесь с проблемой гамма шифта на мак. Возможно, в рамках темы колор менаджмента давинчи
Я долго думал включать это в видео или нет, но в результате решил не включать, потому что это не проблема данного ноута, а проблема MacOS в целом, и про нее быстро не рассказать. Я еще не решил, но думаю, не буду на эту тему делать видео, так как и так слишком много контента по ней, а решений по-прежнему нет, есть только обходные пути.
The fact the macbook is keeping up with a desktop 3080 gpu for timeline performance is quite good. This is a laptop versus a desktop computer.
That is some great & objective review form your own perspective and real life experience. I particularly liked the jab on the "fan boy" Apple people that I find completely insufferable when I hear them yapping and yapping about their veneration for Apple...
Ain't no windows fanboy nor Mac. And if I had the money I would probably bye and Mac book with the proper specs. Portability would be nice. However I do wonder about your drivers. I'm running a very similar PC system and resolve almost never crashes. I use lots of effects crazy timelines color grades, all that. As for magic mask. It has problems. However it does work well just slower than I would like and sometimes I have to redo it. And when I'm really going crazy with magic mask an denoising I'll put it in its own timeline and do what I need to with that clip render it out in DNXhr. Then put it back in the project. Not ideal but it works. Anyway just saying. Enjoy your videos great stuff.
Thanks for watching! Re: magic mask, it works but 9/10 times I'll just do it faster (and a lot of times better) with basic-ass power window & tracking. Same goes for Relight and stuff like that. But horses for courses. The beauty of Resolve is that you can reach the same result a lot of different ways
Are you using studio or game ready drivers on your gpu?
Totally agreed, the default windows 11 with all the low resolution deep fried jpegs 'news' articles and such everywhere is so nasty.
Thanks for the video, great info.
Thanks for watching!
I think H.264 is the least problem here. I only work with H.265 personally and it's the most demanding codec, especially 8K and 4K@120fps 4:2:2 10bit.
Magic Mask and other FX are GPU oriented so PC are generally better (depending on the card). But stability and OS is so much better with macs!
The M3Max GPUs are much better than M1-2 MAx for Resolve since it's GPU accelerated. However, encoder engines are the same so the encoding time would be same if you use Handbrake. If your apps don't use much GPU, hardware raytracing, then M1max , M2max are fine. I did notice some apps are not optimized for M3Max yet so it would be better over time. Some users won't see a big difference if their apps don't take advantage of the hardware. Eg. Audio editing, Photo editing.
Blender 3d is really good on M3Max 40 GPU. It's almost as fast as my desktop 3090.
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Oh yeah! Cheers!
Your timeline switching on the windows machine is bizarre. Takes something like 2-5 seconds depending on footage. 3090, 5090x, 32GB ram, NVME OS and NVME separate Resolve DB
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Man you just made Breaking Bad DaVinCi version.
haha "you're goddamn right"!
thanks for watching
Great video 💯😮
4:20 Honestly, lugging around a 16-inch MacBook Pro should not be a big deal for a man, especially when you're used to carrying a 7 to 8kg backpack to the office every day. The key is to have a good quality backpack with thick, comfy, soft shoulder pad. I've been rocking this beast since 2019 and recently get the M3 Pro 16", and it's been a game-changer. Sure, most of my work happens at home, hooked up to a massive 38-inch monitor, but that's just part of the story. When I'm out and about, maybe chilling at a coffee shop or getting some quiet time in the library, the 16-inch screen is a total lifesaver. Juggling multiple windows? No sweat. And let's not forget the battery life - it's a knockout, way better than the 14-inch model. So, yeah, it's a little bit hefty, but totally worth it for the muscle it brings to my workflow.
And hey, before anyone points out the whole ‘A 16” MacBook Pro is too big for an economy class tray table' thing - I totally get it. But here's the kicker: I don't use my MBP and keep it safe in my backpack. When I'm jet-setting, it's all about kicking back - no work, all play. I switch gears to my iPad Pro, plug into my Bose ANC headset, and dive into some action movies. So, yeah, the 16-inch Mac is a bit of a unit, but for everything it brings to the table, it's a no-brainer for me. 🤣
The main reason people go for 14 inch is that both 16 inch and 14 inch are equally tiny and un ergonomic for full work days. Both require plugging into an external display to work 6-14 hours at home or at the office. So for me for example the extra weight is not worth it, especially when my camera bag is already so heavy.
Oh, for sure, there's a noticeable difference between the 14" and 16". I used to have a 15" MBP from 2015, but in 2019, I switched to the 16" MBP and man, I haven't looked back. Recently, I even upgraded to the M3 Pro 16" model. Before I got it, I popped into the Apple Store to check out both the 14" and 16" models. Playing around with them side by side really sealed the deal for me. The bigger screen, longer battery life, and improved cooling on the 16" just make it a no-brainer for me.
If the long battery life of the 16” M3 Pro MBP is still not enough, I have my Shargeek 170 with massive 170W max output to squirt extra juice.
Слушай, я сейчас жду GPU, 14600k+4070Super конфиг ПК. Есть ли смысл позже докупить 16' M3 Max базовый на 30C?
Сейчас у меня 14'' на M1 Pro - совсем не вывозит Диван :)
Вот я кстати наоборот юзаю маски, титры, и т.п.
Круто снимаешь и круто показываешь именно работу в самой монтажке, видеоряд с набитой рукой отснят - продолжай дальше
Спасибо! Если есть бюджет и потребность, то конечно стоит. Pro линия она для дизайнеров и фотографов, как я себе это вижу, а для видео и графики нужен Max.
What configuration do you have on PC?
if you mean specs, they're listed in the video - 05:48
I have the M1 Pro 16" and a RTX 4070 Gaming rig
I use only the MacBook for productivity task cos of the reliability even though the desktop is faster
How does the davinci 1080p timeline 4k output work? Is the footage 1080p and you're just upscaling it? Or is this something you're doing to get better timeline performance? How is this different from working in a 4k timeline with 1/2 timeline playback resolution enabled?
Also if you're editing 4k in a 1080p timeline, when exporting to 4k are we sure we get the original 4k pixels or is it upscaling a downscaled 4k back to 4k?
Are we considering RTX 3080 PC with 64gig of ram , mid range ?💀
Спасибо!
PLEASE DO ANOTHER LIKE THIS ON PREMIERE PRO WITH LOADED OF FILES ...
I wonder why people compare low spec pc with high-end spec macbook pro? please compare same priced hardware performances bro :D
Granted with apple you have to spend $/£5000 cause you need the ram and storage unless you're web browsing. I had a base m3 pro macbook pro (18/512) on which resolve was crashing multiple times daily, and both resolve and lightroom were becoming laggy due to ram starvation. (18 is a joke for professional applications)
So, in my hobby opinion, it is a great video overall. I have been using computers for over 47 years now. I just got a Mac computer three years ago and love it. No, I don't make a living doing video editing, so this is just for people who make home videos for family and friends. For the PC users, as stated in the video, if your gamer sticks to the PC, my fingers need to be faster for any actual games. What would be a good fit for Mac? First, you want a great OS; yep, that's my thought! If you are using DR, then yes, it's better to optimize for Mac; overall, for a hobbyist, it can be cheaper than a PC. I ran DR on a PC, and most of the stuff inside was 3-4 years old. Upgrading to what I needed for the video card was $800 back then. I got a Mac mini with 16GB RAM and a base 256GB HD (I use a 2 TB external for all the assets for my videos and storage). This has worked great, but it gets a lot harder as I do more VFX work. If you don't need a laptop, the Studio has a better price point and has more RAM options. Again, this was the fairest non-fan-boy video I have ever seen. Maybe in a couple years, you could try a Studio vs PC
Ryzen 3900 is a wrong choice..... you shud be gone wid Intel or other amd chip
nice video bro. As life time windows user I hate macs. Even when I have to use it for the last 4 years and realise that it just that good and work. I am still hoping there will be a windows laptop that will be better than mac laptop for resolve so I don't have use my Mac anymore. hehehe.
Bro, you sold me in the first few mins. Who TF cares about rending times? Haha. Timeline performance is king
Welcome to the macOS world. Just love macOS just because of the reliability and stability
meanwhile, my 1400$ 2021 Asus g15 with 2tb ssd/rtx 3070 and 16gb of ram pretty much performs the same.
Switch to Linux and have the power of the PC for a modest price if you're mostly stationary anyway or on a budget. If you're always on the go and can find it on sale or refurbished then go for the Mac. Refuse to pay full price for apple but Windows PC is intolerable.
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Yo estoy de acuerdo y no. Actualmente tengo un Mac Studio M2 Ultra y un Pc con una RTX4090. Sinceramente, tengo mas problemas en la linea de tiempo con el Mac Studio que con el PC. Aunque me parece que es debido a un ssd externo que utilizo. No me siento identificado con esos problemas en DR con Pc. De hecho, yo no los tengo. El M2 Ultra es una bestia, pero la RTX 4090 y el Ryzen 9 7950X que tengo, destrozan al Mac Studio en tiempos de renderizacion, exportación, magic mask y scroll en linea de tiempo con archivos RAW LT.
Supongo que el PC es suerte o tener actualizados todos los controladores y asegurarse de que todos sean compatibles entre si. De todos modos, el MBP M3 es increiblemente potente, pero no sustituye mi configuración de Windows ni de lejos. Ademas, he visto como mis 2 portatiles que tengo MBP 16" han caido en rendimiento en cuestión de 2 años.
A Mac Studio will be replacing my PC.
You forgot to mentioned how much you saved in electricity!
it is hard to admit it, but if youre working on digital media you better buy a mac.
Please don't buy MACs if you don't have very high income, you will be crying with that low storage and RAM, for professional work with heavy graphics design or vfx you need max storage and max ram, working with external ssd is not an option trust me I have used, get a maxed PC at 1/3 of price of maxed out MAC.
ur comments is the one i have searched basically. Thanks
Is that woman an actress?
Brother thank you so much! This is the review I was looking for 🙏🙏🥹🥹😭😭😭
My pleasure!
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