These Harley Benton Guitars Have One Big Problem
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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For the price point of Harley Benton guitars, you are best off buying a few guitars at once. I purchased 3 a few years ago & had them all sent to Australia for the same shipping cost as one guitar. So I got my money's worth. I ordered on a Thursday and had them at my door the following Tuesday in perfect condition
Well here in the states they already have a reverb store/warehouse all the guitars have the fees included in total price and theyre fast shipping
Some of us live in this far off land called Europe.
Skill issue
You can also pick your favorite one that way, and sell or return the others.
@@Billiamwoodsbut isn’t HB based in Germany?
Have the same model. I bought it for 5 years ago and it still is perfectly fine and works alright. The frets is slightly worn out. At the time the frets was not stainless steel as they are today. Love the guitar.
Thanks for sharing!
Yes🎉 do the comparison!
Yes! Please do a comparison. This one obviously plays very nicely, and SS frets are.a bonus, but I thought the pickups sounded a bit dark and muffled. It would be good to hear it vs a known quantity, in case it was just the amp or pedals you were using this time out.
I got exact the same guitar, playability is great, but i didn't like the pickups. Changed them to humbucker sized P90 for a more bluesy sound. Workmanship of this guitar is not worse than my Player Fender Strat or Ibanez. I looove the CST!
Please do a Video. I had that pink PRS that you had and I got rid of it. I bought one of these and I still have it. What does that say? I dunno but please do that video
Excellent wood! Meranti is not subject to warping or twisting and is dent resistant. Also, from sustainable logging! That's one very important element to consider too nowadays, isn't it? Cheers! M.
That looks pretty cool. I'm looking forward to the comparison video.
I was curious and recently purchase two HB Teles (lefty)...HBTE52 and an HBTE62DB...both quite the buy...neck/fret work is excellent...as are the body/finishes. Roswell pups are decent enough....I've upgraded them and now have two superb spare guitars that hold their own with far more pricey kin. Not brave enough to venture beyond a simple Tele relative to another HB....plus, I think 20+ guitars is enough for any avg player like me. Thanks for the review, Mr Bailey....keep making us laugh.
Not bad, but those pick ups are pretty dark sounding! Fairly bright split, but quite dark in full hum bucking mode!
Stainless steel frets for this price make all these 1000+ guitars with nickel frets look like a scam.
Pickups sound like crap. But that’s an easy fix
I got a red tiger stripe maple HH-35 with Roswell pickups, you can pop up the volumes to make the humbuckers single coils. It was $247 shipped to my house. I picked up a new Ibanez case for $100 and it fits like it was made for it. It's a knockoff of Gibson 335? I love it. I had a pawnshop Ibanez tobacco (yellow,orange/black) Art core, the e string snagged under All the frets, had to get it rewired to sell it. I had a Butterfly like the Artclore had built in effects, a friend who was supposed to adjust the truss rod and stold it instead. That was fun guitar. I play it thru a dumpster dived Crate G120 XL with old Boss heavy metal -2 pedal and a electro harmonics canyon.
I see theyve made a couple of changes to it in the last year. Mine has a pau ferro fretboard, mahogany body, cost £250 and is the approximate weight of a small moon.
The brand name is tragic and the reason I never bought one even though I know it's ridiculous.
Do it, make comarison. I have CST-24 with P90 and thinking about getting some PRS.
Its a shame that they dont make a 22 fret model, does anyone use the top two frets? 22 fret just looks and hangs better.
A side by side comparison would be interesting. I suspect this may be one of the HB party pieces that sails waaay under market to draw attention to the brand and get you in the door. Also, I wonder if the guitar turns out to be the real tits, how consistent is the Toeman/HB Quality Control OR if you could make a sound argument that you could reach "as good as PRS or better" with minimal expenditure. The real beans of PRS is excellent import guitars and industry leading QC.
I have four Harley Bentons and each one arrived in perfect condition and with no QC issues, the weaknesses for me are the pickups and the tuners so all mine now have Gotoh tuners and Tonerider pups. With the extra cost of the upgrades they are all still worth every penny and in my opinion a hell of a lot more.👍
@@guitarzipandan gotta respect that ;)
Exact same setup here, I change them to Toneriders, especially the singlecoils.
For the tuners I actually found that Harley Benton locking tuners are also quite usable.
@@matijad2959 You know, i think "bad" locking tuners are quicking fading into oblivion. Nice feature on the HB that the big brand names are still cheaping out on.
I have had three HB guitars and I have always been impressed. My favorite is their JA60 guitar.
I came over an Emerald Green one from years prior when they still used Mahagony for the body, but a simpler material for the frets. You win some, you loose some ;-) (I mean PRS himself doesn't like Steel frets, so there is that), also still with Wilkenson pick ups. I jus tought it very cheap and planned to sell it after some maintenance. The design won me over instantly but at first I didn't like the (PRS like) sound all that much. Than I found the ergonomics so great I started to use it when I was mobile. After I did said maintenance; New strings, fresh string height and intonation due to thinner ones, I started to love it too much to sell it. Than I heard the sound in a mixed setting with other instruments and suddenly the sound clicked for me. By now I also adjusted the pickups perfectly and now I never want to let go of it. Especially since I cannot get the same guitar new, as visually the mahagony vs. the meranti makes quite difference, at least up close.
Hello, I will be getting a guitar with this keyboard for the first time. How is the keyboard? Is playing it enjoyable and fluid? Does it provide the same pleasure as an Ibanez when playing solos?
It felt great
@@landonbailey I'm thinking of buying this guitar, but they say it won't play well because it's been polished. I am just a guitarist, and I want playing to be enjoyable. Is this guitar suitable for me? Is the guitar you have polished?
From what i've read, the newer Indonesian made CST-24's are made in the same factory as the PRS SE's. If so, wouldn't they likely be using the same bodies and necks?
I got the same in black and I love it so bad! Can’t keep my hands off of it! Amazing and beautiful guitars
🎸👍
How did you release the brand "sticker"? It's not a sticker!
Wow looks so PRS. But sound is most important to me with guitar stuff.
Good old HB CST24 still alive and kicking, now at $345CAD plus mandatory shipping. The new PRS SE CE at $940CAD off the shelf at L&M. SEs are pretty good quality, and very few setup issues out of the box. Are they worth $600CAD more? For me they are. (Recently bought an SE SAS on the factory sale.) But anyone can have a wall of HBs for the same price as one SE I guess.
I would love to order these but am very afraid of the duty fee because you never know what you are going to get.
Plus if there is an issue..... L&M have the best return / warranty policy in Canada.
@@mikey-dubs I bought my teal SE Swamp Ash at a local independent store, Rufus, cause L&M are always sold out.
You got the PRS SE CE 24 Satin nowadays, very competitively priced!
It has the rare dill pickle feature? Sold!
I have a PRS Semi Hollow CE-24 also and would like to see the side by side comparison and sounds comparison also.
Oi Bill ,That Meranti timber if its the same breed, was or maybe still is used as Decking floor boards on exterior patios here in Australia,,,A hard Dence timber that was oiled for exterior use rather than painted,,,So with that its probably pretty good.
They have another problem -- they're in Germany. If you have a problem , you're screwed. They don't pay for the shipping to return it and it has to be registered with customs. AND they charge shipping for a second delivery. So that great deal can cost you time, effort, aggravation and another $200.00
I get you man. Your brain speak words well like I do. Our brains are a sentence ahead of our mouths.
I've ordered one in amber flame, it was on offer at 170 gbp including delivery! How could I resist!?
Harley Bailey?
Thanks, always enjoy your channel!!! ✌️🍁🎸
Is the guitar neck thick C or slim C ?
It’s slim
@@landonbailey ty
My HB that I bought a couple of years ago, just sits there unplayed. I am very unimpressed with it, and I just can't see me ever bothering with the brand again. I could be wrong about the newer models, but I just don't like the one I bought very much.
ya the few models I tried 3-4 years ago weren't anything amazing. this is a big level up from those
Some other models that came in meantime and are great for the value:
SC 550 II - depending on spec comes with EMG or Tesla pickups.
SC Custom - Currently on 70th year discount for 200€, being basically a ESP singlecut (256 and similar models)
Fusion III - Charvel on a budget, amazing guitars.
Too bad most of the 25th Anniversary Harley Bentons are sold out. Those were the ones to get. I was blown away by the T-style that I bought, the TE-25th. I think HB does the best when they produce their versions of the classics.
Do the comparison, I haven't seen the back of the guitar yet.
It is the first time I see a guitar review without actually playing the guitar for real. Anyway, HB is becoming a great brand.
That’s right! All the playing was AI
I have the exact same one. Its color is awesome and doesn't show in your dark room the blue is a gorgeous color. For the money, you can't beat these guitars.
Hello ! When i play PRS scale lengh, it becomes a bit difficult to return to Fender or Gibson scale length. But no problem to switch from Gibson to Fender or vice versa. So... my very good Harley Benton CST stays on the wall... Thank you for your video !
God bless America, especially Kentucky, the state I pretend I grew up in!
You didn't do the Neck Dive test. The neck/body joint is pretty high.
no neck dive :)
As Rory Gallagher and Buddy Guy said: “you can call it what you want… I call it messing with the kid”
No Harley Benton doesn't have problems, stop (except non polished frets)
Just do it! You can do it! It's up to you to do it! Come on and do it! Thanks 🤘 😊
That dirt pedal sounds terrible over here. Is it the pickups in the HB or is just not to my taste? How does it sound with the PRS
The pickups are by far the weakest point of this guitar. Idk why they made them so dark and bassy, they sound so muddy, lifeless and sterile under high gain. It's like they put jazz pickups in what is supposed to be primarily a rock guitar. They aren't outright terrible, It's nothing a bit of EQ dialing and playing with the gain knob can't solve, but personally I found a used set of DiMarzio Dominions for a good price and it sounds much much better with those.
How can they sell a guitar this cheap and still pay their employees a living wage?
China...
Right...living wage...
Because it's built in a factory that has the largest "in stock" parts bin in the world at its disposal. You've gotta take into consideration, that every part of that guitar is just leftover pieces of other models built in the same factory.
I've noticed this on many Cort models also. It will end up looking like a weird amalgamation of various guitar brand's all thrown together. Depending on the specs, this can be a good or bad thing. No children or animals have been harmed during production of these guitars. Relax IRONMAN. This is a fairly common tactic used for knockoff models, exactly like this wanna be PRS.
Multiple factors.
CNC machines don't need a living wage.
China has very low cost of living, so even it's regional minimum wage doesn't need to be much.
Thomann have no global retail outlets and distributor middle men. Two chunks of the profit margin in the conventional (Gibson/Fender/PRS etc) retail distribution model are removed.
High volume. Thomann are the largest retailer in Europe. They seem to consciously go for aggressive prices with lower margins, and make it up through sales volume. Volumes that give them negotiating power with factories.
When they sell strats/teles for under £/$/e 100, including shipping them from China/Indonesia to Germany to you, it becomes less surprising they can do a PRS for this price.
Because China has a debt economy , and has preferential trade deals with the West; they also don't pay their employees a fair wage, and most live below the lowest Western standards.
It is suggested by many experts in the region that their economy will collapse in the next 5 years or so, with a GDP approximately 40% of what is officially claimed.
Do it, do it, do it! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
I totally agree with you...., the name "Harley Benton" is the only big mistake they've made with these guitars.
A real mess....Too bad!
How could they choose such a stupid name...? I'll never get used to it.
Lotta guitar for the money. Even the PRS SE's for 2x the price don;t include stainless frets. The woods are Asian equivalents of standards for that type. One difference is the roasted Jatoba fretboard should damp less than Indian RW. That and the Stainless frets will make it brighter sounding. Those pickups aren't bad at all. Magnet changes are possible if a lighter attack is desired via A2, A3 or A4, or swap out to something with the sound you'd prefer with the money saved over a PRS. Notice they also have wrap-over bridge models for a bit less. Aluminum bridges like that have a clear sweet tone. I got an HB 335+ from Thoman a few years back that's very nice. Fretwork and setup was great.
The Headstock is stolen or bought from a german Manufactor called ,,Bassart Guitars,, greetings from Germany
I am an absolute beginner and planning to buy my first electric guitar should i buy this or jackson js 22 dka.. Please advice 😢
This guitar will be better than jackson js 22(my opinion, but for me jackson is a little more comfortable, so you need to try it)
From now on, I'm going to refer to humbuckers as 'still pickle chips.' Thanks for that Landon!
You bet!
I know! I know! It's not blue! (Glad yer back to the Princeton)
can you drop tune easily on it?
I can’t
Impressed by the guitar but honestly more impressed by the OE pedal you're using. You went from 100 percent clean guitar tone to legit amp like drive. Might need to get me one of those before I get a new guitar. Great video!!
Sounds nice. From motorcycles to guitars, interesting...lol
What's the fretboard radius?
350mm… it’s a little over 13.75 inches
You must do the thing.
That's a really nice color...
I expected the price to be twice as much
Good prank homie, quite the chuckle💀
I could've sworn I saw a different guitar on the scale!
Sorry, Harley Benton, Gibson and all the rest, I need two volumes and two tones with two humbuckers, and I need the pickup switch where it would be on an SG or Les Paul, not way back at the lower bout. This control setup will always be a deal breaker for me. YMMV.
Hmm, I prefer the less is more , one tone, one volume one bridge pickup, less parts, cheaper to make!
Fantastic guitar! I actually * HAD * this exact same guitar. A couple years ago, & I can honestly say it was one of the better playing guitars that I have had. And I've had a bunch. I'm always buying / selling / trading. And that was a great guitar! Decent pickups too, for what I do. It would have been a legacy guitar. Never would have gotten rid of it... except.... I ordered the Ocean Blue as well. The vids floored me. When mine came in... it was an awful turd blue. I can't even describe it. Super ugly. A shame. I want yours!!
3:27 if only I could read!
You're right. The brand name is absolutely stupid!
I have two HB guitars and I removed the sticker with the name from the headstock. I really like the guitars and I don't have a problem if people know that they are VERY affordable but I can't stand that stupid name. It is simply ridiculous.
DO IT! DO THE THING!!!! 😆
I love PRS, so I definitely think it would be interesting.
Do an 8ball !
A+ editing job 😉
Only $255 today in 2024. They are magic.
Great vid, but I wish you'd have been nicer. Life's hard on The Mile, Percy. 😆
Wow. That looks like a PRS
Edit: ah, ok. So that’s what they are.
Those pickups suck! I'd just rather spend the fee hundred more, and get the real deal PRS SE with the TCI pickups. They're made awesome as well.
Do the thing!
That's clearly a PRS knockoff. Not nearly as cool without the birds.
Do it. Do the thing.
Just do it!!!!!!!
ive never been this early to one of your videos
Thomann are crap. I bought a 12 string from them and it arrived in a flimsy cardboard box and with a broken neck. Trying to return it and get a refund was well nigh impossible. They made it virtually impossible. I suggest you steer well clear of them.
that's unfortunate. but not every cardboard box arrives with a broken neck
I’m impressivised
thx for the infos. I dont like these "After every sentence we make a cut" videos. Makes around 20000 cuts in 10 minutes? No abo so.
Do the thing.
That was super ………….. still.
Sounds like Joe Biden explaining a guitar
What?
What is a Benton?
I know what a Harley is😜
do it
All good guitar get copied, don't they, why jump on Harley now?
now as in 2020?
Since 1955...😂
The pickups sounded awful to me. Muffled and bland. But easy enough to get new pickups.
I had a Harley Benton once… biggest piece of 💩 I ever played…
Where was your HB made? The quality improved since HB guitars are Made in Indonesia - maybe Cort? My CST 24 is flawless!
The problem with Harley Benton guitars is that they are made by Harley Benton.