It's comforting to know, given the Newsreader's clear disdain for the guild of millers, that people were sick and tired of ads even thousands of years ago when they'd probably just been invented.
+LabTech Nah. Sumerians and Egyptians were complaining about false advertisements and clerical orders thousands of years before Rome. And they are the oldest civilizations in history.
An awesome detail, for sure. I think the point was that, having no microphones, hand gestures as sort of "sign language" were used to aid the listeners in understanding the message if they were too far away from the speaker.
@@Hoi4o Hey I know I'm like 4 years late to this, but the hand gestures were a legitimate part of the language itself. The Institutio Oratoria really goes into detail about the art of rhetoric and how to mix hand gestures with speech to evoke specific emotions in people. If you watch the senate scenes with Cicero, he does a much more polished version of the same hand gestures, the reasoning being that due to his noble education and more formal setting, Cicero's gestures were bound to be more subtle and "elegant". Whereas the town crier's sole responsibility was capturing and maintaining people's attention. So the crier's exaggerated gestures are actually theorized to be a real historical thing, so that the announcements would have a more theatrical (entertaining) feel to them for the common masses.
Tom Hands with the support of MELL... GIBSOn... has produced a movie worthy of oscars. The guild of actors attacks the movie of being made poorly. ALL MOCKERY OF THE GUILD OF ACTORS BEING TOO POMPOUS SHALL BE KEPT UNDER MINIMUM
No Shit. Think about this guy passing it on to one of those apprentices who help him, and on down the line for hundreds of years there was "that guy" on the rostrum in the forum shouting the news. If such a person existed, and there probably were many such men throughout the city, they must've been famous throughout their neighborhoods like newscasters today. Such a man would be indirectly powerful, like newscasters today.
"Tomorow at the house of Rufus, an auction, of excellente slaves, from pliant virigns, to learned Greeks, Rufus has slaves, for any budget" - Fat Newsreader from Rome HBO (around 65 BC)
"From pliant virgins *holds up firefinger and pinky*... to learned Greeks *taps below eye with forefinger*..." IDK why but his hand motions are so perfect haha
I always found it amusing how actors are equated with prostitutes and treated as filth by the actors in the show. *"NO PROSTITUTES, ACTORS, OR UNCLEAN TRADESMEN MAY ATTEND"* Also this is how news should be read in TV.
yes that's something I also found interesting. in the show, actors were clowns, lousy performance to entertain plebs often involving indecent acts. if you think about it, modern actors are no different in some ways. they are paid to act out sex, to kiss, to be intimate with many other actors. this is degrading, especially for women. the fact that due to easy reproduction of media they can be famous all over the world and also get reasonably wealthy made the profession sought after though.
Actors had similar social status to prostitues until XVIII-XIX century. Caused by moral outrage over the idea of pretending to be someone else on stage and simple fact that actors usualy vere poor bastards and occupied very low positions in their social hierarchies.
Newsreader: Groups of more than three men shall not congregate in public spaces. **Proceeds to look at a squad of Caesarian legionaries completely doing the opposite.** ( I get the joke of the announcement and that the legionaries formed groups like that as they need to secure the city and show who's in charge.)
I might sound sad, but, he was one of my favorite characters in the series (and played by a class actor), I loved all the hand gesture whilst he was reading the stories.
It's a shame they had to wrap it up so quickly. It was meant to have at least 5 seasons and would have ended with the birth of a certain Yeshua of Nazareth.
I love the show. It felt so rushed at the end but at least the end scene made sense for it to be ended. It doesn't get the credit it deserves imo compared to other shows that aren't as great.
"All mockery of Jews...and their one god...shall lbe kept to an appropriate minimum." LOLOLOL Thank you for compiling and posting these! Love this character. Reminds me of some preachers I know :D .
The gestures are part of the Greek school of Rhetoric which was a discipline of public/ politically theatric speaking. In many Indo-European cultures certain gestures accompanied words in formal or ritualistic speeches.
"A fine reward is offered for the return of a slave woman, stolen or absconded from the house of Marius Dolabella." I wondered if this is not a kind of internal joke and the slave woman is a reference to Eirene. When she was first saw in "An Owl in a Thorn bush", she is by herself, going away from Rome before be captured by the disguised soldiers who stole the gold's wagon.
I'll watch the news all day if he is the news reader on any channel. So perfectly delivered, these days mostly anchors are like robots reading from the screen.
SciFi did a pretty hit or miss adaptation of Frank Herbert's Dune, with this guy as Baron Harkonnen and he was one of the best parts of the entire show.
The Equestrian class was often translated as "Knights" although they are better thought of as a business class or rich men who were not technically from noble families (although some of those nobles may well be poorer than some equestrians). The term Equestrian is related to horses since only the rich would be able to afford a horse.
Am I the only one who think that the guy seems fed up with some of the news he has to announce, since they are the other way round compared to the former news he had to give, for example, praise Pompey and then praise Caesar.
It's comforting to know, given the Newsreader's clear disdain for the guild of millers, that people were sick and tired of ads even thousands of years ago when they'd probably just been invented.
+LabTech Nah. Sumerians and Egyptians were complaining about false advertisements and clerical orders thousands of years before Rome.
And they are the oldest civilizations in history.
***** Can't I ever just make a joke? This is an HBO series, historical accuracy was never going to be a highpoint of this discussion.
+LabTech JuanCarlos still added an interesting piece of information.
+LabTech The historical accuracy (to some extent) is well known and the best highpoint of that show.
He doesnt necessarily have disdain for the millers, he fucking hates shouting advertisements.
This man is the true protagonist of the series.
You right.
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GAIUS
*arm swing*
JULIUS
*arm swing*
CAESAR
*arm swing*
htf5555 The arm swing is legendary.
htf5555 3:56
Watched this show years ago, yet every time I hear anything to do with Caesar I picture this.
This is what I came for 😂
RubberKidney - 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
"All mockeries of Jews and their one God shall be kept to an appropriate minimum."
LMAO
So painting "happy merchant" memes on the walls is strictly forbidden?
Oy vey
OY GEVALT
That's the greatest line from the show... never rewound a scene more than when he shouted that... The arm movement is what makes it great!!!!!
controlling media since ancient times lol
“ No prostitutes, actors, or unclean tradesmen may attend.” - Ah, the good old days...
@Procopedecesaree well said brother procope
I fucking LOVE this man's hand gestures!
An awesome detail, for sure. I think the point was that, having no microphones, hand gestures as sort of "sign language" were used to aid the listeners in understanding the message if they were too far away from the speaker.
@@Hoi4o Hey I know I'm like 4 years late to this, but the hand gestures were a legitimate part of the language itself. The Institutio Oratoria really goes into detail about the art of rhetoric and how to mix hand gestures with speech to evoke specific emotions in people.
If you watch the senate scenes with Cicero, he does a much more polished version of the same hand gestures, the reasoning being that due to his noble education and more formal setting, Cicero's gestures were bound to be more subtle and "elegant". Whereas the town crier's sole responsibility was capturing and maintaining people's attention. So the crier's exaggerated gestures are actually theorized to be a real historical thing, so that the announcements would have a more theatrical (entertaining) feel to them for the common masses.
This man should presents the Oscars
Tom Hands with the support of MELL... GIBSOn... has produced a movie worthy of oscars. The guild of actors attacks the movie of being made poorly. ALL MOCKERY OF THE GUILD OF ACTORS BEING TOO POMPOUS SHALL BE KEPT UNDER MINIMUM
SlayerNinaFriki Only true Roman Oscars, for True Romans
Why is this one of the best parts of the show? It's a fat guy shouting bits of information from the top of a box. Why do I love it so much?
Ian Mcneice is a great actor.
Well, this is a test for a True Roman. If you feel it, You probably deserve to hold the full and legal Roman citizenship. Salve , citizen.
It's more that the whole show is good. Every part well acted.
No Shit. Think about this guy passing it on to one of those apprentices who help him, and on down the line for hundreds of years there was "that guy" on the rostrum in the forum shouting the news. If such a person existed, and there probably were many such men throughout the city, they must've been famous throughout their neighborhoods like newscasters today. Such a man would be indirectly powerful, like newscasters today.
because it is Baron Harkonnen
Does anyone else love the way he goes *hand gestures* CEEEEEEEEEEESAAAAAAAAH
+Jim Black (Overheard) The way he swings his arms sideways as he goes "GAIUS-JULIUS-CAESAR!"
+Jack Bauer CEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESAH
Jim Black CEEESAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
GAIUS JUUUUULIUS CESSSSSSSSSSSSAHH
SENATUS POPULUSQUE ROMANOS!
"Tomorow at the house of Rufus, an auction, of excellente slaves, from pliant virigns, to learned Greeks, Rufus has slaves, for any budget"
- Fat Newsreader from Rome HBO
(around 65 BC)
"From pliant virgins *holds up firefinger and pinky*... to learned Greeks *taps below eye with forefinger*..."
IDK why but his hand motions are so perfect haha
Around 40 BC*
I am now a true roman
+Jon Snow salve citizen
+Jon Snow you know nothing
Ave, true to Caesar
+Eagon So why, for the gods infernal, have you let Ceasar to be burnt at the stake?
Remember, Snow always melts;)
I always found it amusing how actors are equated with prostitutes and treated as filth by the actors in the show. *"NO PROSTITUTES, ACTORS, OR UNCLEAN TRADESMEN MAY ATTEND"*
Also this is how news should be read in TV.
Judging the by the personality of most Hollywood celebs, I think the Romans had the right idea...
in the roman classical age, they often where
yes that's something I also found interesting. in the show, actors were clowns, lousy performance to entertain plebs often involving indecent acts. if you think about it, modern actors are no different in some ways. they are paid to act out sex, to kiss, to be intimate with many other actors. this is degrading, especially for women. the fact that due to easy reproduction of media they can be famous all over the world and also get reasonably wealthy made the profession sought after though.
Actors had similar social status to prostitues until XVIII-XIX century. Caused by moral outrage over the idea of pretending to be someone else on stage and simple fact that actors usualy vere poor bastards and occupied very low positions in their social hierarchies.
A true roman comment for true romans.
somebody should do experiment, read news like this in public space , see how people react
they do that everyday on the news with reporters on the scene! just not as much fun
I have actually done this. People will stop and listen. It still works.
Try it.
@@ubermikesocal that would honestly be an interesting social experiment 😂
True Roman upload for true Romans
GAIUS .......JULIUS.......CEASAAAAR
LOL
I believe you mean Gaius! Julius! Ceaaaaaaaaasar!!!
Rome wouldn't be the same without the newsreader. He's a genius. The best newsreader ever 🔝
Newsreader: Groups of more than three men shall not congregate in public spaces. **Proceeds to look at a squad of Caesarian legionaries completely doing the opposite.**
( I get the joke of the announcement and that the legionaries formed groups like that as they need to secure the city and show who's in charge.)
'ALL MOCKERY OF JEWS AND THEIR ONE GOD SHALL BE KEPT AT AN APPROPRIATE MINIMUM" Like Herod would have cared if they didn't
missyadams Define "appropriate minimum"! ;)
waivedwench
no idea; :D I just feel Herod would care less if the Romans make fun of the Jews or not
missyadams Yeah, he had his own little ways of dealing with those he didn't like!! ;)
From my own Bible history class, I feel that's an accurate assumption about the entire family.
I might sound sad, but, he was one of my favorite characters in the series (and played by a class actor), I loved all the hand gesture whilst he was reading the stories.
This show doesn't get the credit it deserves. Great show with amazing actors.
I wanted this show to go on and on:(
It's a shame they had to wrap it up so quickly. It was meant to have at least 5 seasons and would have ended with the birth of a certain Yeshua of Nazareth.
I love the show. It felt so rushed at the end but at least the end scene made sense for it to be ended. It doesn't get the credit it deserves imo compared to other shows that aren't as great.
eric johnson: It'd be so epic if they brought it back but did so secretly with this dude announcing it as his character.
Better than modern news
+1 for the title
+Luukeksi FrozenHillbillyEurotrash -1 for the weird description lol.
+Andrew M -1 B.C for your face.
Ian McNiece is probably one of my top 5 actors ever since I first saw him in Dune. Seeing him pop up in multiple roles since then.
Here he is with Omar Sharif ruclips.net/video/Nwml6Bb9OVc/видео.html
"all mockery of jews and their one god must be kept to an appropriate minimum. "
I wonder if Rufus has slaves for my budget ...
“Tomorrow is the Ides of March. All festivities to be sponsored and provided by Raid: Shadow Legends, a true Roman game for true Romans.”
Amazing how the newsreader's proclamations are dictated by whoever is in power.
The voice of the state
Works like that today too
This guy could have been perfect casting for Wyman Manderly in GoT.
True Frey pies for true northmen !
If only they actually bothered doing that subplot
true Roman bread for true Romans
Ian just came into my brother's workplace to get some photos printed! We both got an autographed :D
Ian McNeice?... the guy you just spent 7 minuets listening to!*****
CAIUS JULIUS CAESAR *arm movement*
From plied virgins to learned Greeks ! Alrighty, I shall visit the market today !
1:14 to 1:23 Titus Pullo walking through the crowds while the speech is still going on like a boss!
Much better then CNN.
Ethan Shreve better than fox for sure
Ethan Shreve: Brit Hume nor Jake Tapper neither one are fit to tie the man's sandals. He pwns all.
A true Roman video for true Romans :D
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This makes that episode of Doctor Who were this actor played Winston Churchill, Emperor of Rome, even stranger.
Wow, that is the same guy... neat.
He was Baron Vladimir Harkonnen in the mini tv movie Frank Herbert's Dune.
The spice must flow!
ATREIDES IS DEAD AND HARKONNEN... LIVES!
Filthy barbarian downvoters. True Romans (real people) like this video.
True bread for true Romans! Downvoting slaves and freedmen are not eligible;)
+Isabella H don't forget the unclean tradesmen.
NO prostitutes, actors, or unclean tradesmen... may attend!
After listening to the adverts a couple times, True Romans are now looking for adblock.
LMAO I loved this guy. He was the highlight of every episode he appeared in for me
I watched this and now the soot around my eyes disappeared. Also, I no longer worship dogs and reptiles
"All mockery of Jews...and their one god...shall lbe kept to an appropriate minimum." LOLOLOL
Thank you for compiling and posting these! Love this character. Reminds me of some preachers I know :D .
8 people are 'unclean tradesmen'.
This man would have survived delivering Cicero's message to Anthony. His powerful voice is too intimidating, his gestures are too mesmerizing.
The gestures are part of the Greek school of Rhetoric which was a discipline of public/ politically theatric speaking. In many Indo-European cultures certain gestures accompanied words in formal or ritualistic speeches.
I think you just mean being Italian lol
he is my favorite character of the series, they should had done more with him.
"A fine reward is offered for the return of a slave woman, stolen or absconded from the house of Marius Dolabella."
I wondered if this is not a kind of internal joke and the slave woman is a reference to Eirene.
When she was first saw in "An Owl in a Thorn bush", she is by herself, going away from Rome before be captured by the disguised soldiers who stole the gold's wagon.
The best performance ever! Ian McNeice is what I imagined a Roman senator should look like. Haha I just find his mannerism so cultured.
I love the little Caesar funeral dance he does there.
Fantastic video and title, thanks for it. The description is a nice bonus. I really need to get Rome on DVD. Its long overdue.
Just finished the series and this man is the first one I searched for. Long live the newsreader
Wow, that's Bran the 3-eyed raven looking on, at 7:00 min mark.
"savior.. of our.. republic?"
3:56
Best part
all newsreader on tv should do like this, so memerisizing, dont even remember anything else other than him after finished 22 ep.
I'll watch the news all day if he is the news reader on any channel. So perfectly delivered, these days mostly anchors are like robots reading from the screen.
Loved this guy, glad they kept him throughout the series.
GAIUS...Hand move ...JULIUS....Hand move CESAR - Hand move... #KLASSIK !
Mirror for good speakers. Ian McNice is a great actor and cultured man. To make the series he read Marco Fabio Quinctiliano
Bravo Ian McNeice!
At this time the Roman State was about 700 years old and should go on for another 500 years!!
Actually, another 1500 years.
I freaking love the Newsreader, I wish all news was delivered in such an epic fashion.
Thanks man! ive been looking for this guy
SciFi did a pretty hit or miss adaptation of Frank Herbert's Dune, with this guy as Baron Harkonnen and he was one of the best parts of the entire show.
This man... is brilliant... as fuck.
The irony of saying, “Savior of our republic,” during martial law.
Newsreader: "Barbaric Horde" (Gladiator) He must have been in Gladiator....."Caies Iulies Cisarh"
I'm glad they gave him billing in the second season.
Time to watch Rome again=)
"to *CRUSH* THE REBELS!"
"It is important that people hear the right news in the right way.
"
This actor should pursue a career as a news anchor.
The greatest historical movie I've ever seen.
"Souvenirs...novelties...paaarty tricks."
He says all noblemen and knights - did I mishear him? Or did the Romans have the functional equivalent of Knights? The Equites? If so I had no idea...
+Pierre C Yes.
The Equestrian class was often translated as "Knights" although they are better thought of as a business class or rich men who were not technically from noble families (although some of those nobles may well be poorer than some equestrians). The term Equestrian is related to horses since only the rich would be able to afford a horse.
And in the 21st Century, actors can be made knights.
Friggin love this guy!
The newsreader would make an excellent politician in today's times with all his hand gestures and movements
Fuck the Guild of Millers is what I'm hearing here, Dude.
truth in advertising...? I think not, not if all that grain was coming from Egypt.
werent they coming form egypt, africa, and sicily?
latinhero1818 fake news!
latinhero1818 But processed into the final product by true Roman bakers.
The title is gold lol, Roma Invicta.
Love his character! Sea 2-1 is Epic :)
To be honest my water tastes much better now and my flip flops seem to have more meaning to me than ever b4
3:57 ! !
I loved all that gestures... I awaited for every appearence of the newsreader!
And it's more: I was imitating him sometimes. :D
i too, did this in front of the TV
Am I the only one who think that the guy seems fed up with some of the news he has to announce, since they are the other way round compared to the former news he had to give, for example, praise Pompey and then praise Caesar.
02:43 a true Roman mic drop for a true Roman
I was going to make a Facebook page before for this Newsreaders chin, then i was going to make one for the Newsreader himself.
Real hero
5:34 TO CRUSH!
2:42 is the ancient world equivalent of a mic drop
his hand gestures man Ian totally sold this...
hmm Mcneice vs Jim Ross?
season 2 episode 1
LOVE IT
You deserve some punishment bad slave ... hahahahaha great scenes from the newsreader, an excellent show, thanks for posting :D
I like this actor. He was awesome as the Baron Harkarnonan in the SciFi channel's Dune. If you ain't seen it do yourself a favor and check it out.
I'd watch the news.
My favorite starts at 3:54.
Wonderful, funny! :D
Couldn't agree more!
By him! GAIUUSHH JULIUSSH CHESHAARR
Would the herald have repeated this throughout the day or was it basically 'I'm going to be here at this time, if you miss it you miss it.'
in england the crier would read the notice once then post it outside the local inn
+afaultytoaster who paid them/ why did they do it ?
the local authority hired someone to do it, eg the town crier was hired by the town council
3:57 My favorite scene. GAIUS... JULIUS... CAESAR...