The Stupidity of A.I. Consumer Devices
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- In recent years a number of start-ups have tried to make dedicated consumer devices for A.I. The most well-known is Humane AI which made a wearable AI device. In this video we look at the idea of consumer AI devices and whether or not this is likely to be successful.
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1:52 - 4:57 AI’s Current Capabilities
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I miss the days when AI was known properly as "machine learning" with niche applications, such as text adventures, while the majority was just humble research.
Exactly. There is zero artifical intelligence on earth as of today. There is just machine learning, deep search and large language models put together to fool stupid people
traditional ML still exists but is getting more scrutiny now because of bad AI press
And funny cat pictures where the cats had like 6 legs.
Probabilistic AI is necessary if you want to make sense of large datasets, which humans themselves can’t for things like earthquake prediction. The problem is that companies are trying to pitch it for knowable things(search) and things we capable of doing ourselves(artwork). It’s 💯 about finding a market.
I doubt the ML crowd is going to let go of the term. After decades of being the red headed step child in AI, now they are really profitable, so they are doing a bit of a victory lap of 'ha ha, we have more money now, so we were right!'
Even though really it is still the worst branch of AI that just happens to run really fast.
Just like the metaverse, they’re trying to sell us something no one wants and no one asked for
Imo they want us to buy into our own replacement. How many people were unjustly fired before it was realized chatbots couldn't do their job?
I think the recent "success" of companies like Uber at disrupting how these legacy businesses are operated has made every startup CEO think they can disrupt the existing model. In this case Humane's CEOs think they can disrupt the entire smartphone market and offer an alternative
@BusinessDymystified it was made for older people. I remember watching their first video. I was intrigued by the idea as I think "AI" digital companions WILL be a thing so wearable AI stuff would be fun. But phone does a good job.
Exactly
You don't know how much Google's "ai" and Facebooks "ai" get in the way of what I'm trying to do. Like do a search
AI = Actually Indian
🤣🤣🤣🤣
AI products are the "As Seen On TV" tech products of the 2020s.
Smart buddy aim
Hey watch what you say “the magic bullet” was a pretty good smoothie maker.
Yeah but at least Billy Mays sold me some shit that actually worked marginally well
@@j_h_o I will admit that I was Sham-Wowed by Vince back in the day.
@@kevinvanveen3260 The comparison to "As Seen On TV" is perfect because a handful those products turned out fine.
It's not like AI is doomed to fail 100% of the time as a product, it's just hard to find the good stuff in the ocean of overhyped crap.
This video is 100% on point. Now when I see the words, ""powered by AI". I roll my eyes because I know it's just a parlor trick.
Not 100%. It's more of a coping mechanism. I remember the same thing being said about the internet (remember the Internet bubble) and the personal computer.
This is the worse it will be. The most obvious explanation is a much better Alexa. No one uses the phone version.
Too many companies use A.I. as a b.s. term but yes if you are smart you can make money with A.I. or just make your life easier.
I mean, it heavily depends on the product
AI is the new "smart", meaning it probably requires a subscription or eventually will, has huge privacy concerns and will be junk when the manufacturers server goes down. I avoid it like the plague.
When you see something that says "powered by AI" , it means "we don't care if this product actually works, and that's the whole point".
Etsy never should have allowed AI art
When investors are stepping over each other to buy the haystack on the basis that there should be a needle in there somewhere, be the straw.
👏👏👏👏
Deep...
nahhh its the bigger fool theory, pure piramid scheme
I had to put down my coffee cup and think because of this comment.
Read that again, but in ancient Mongolian. Few
At my work we got told to find problems within our work so we can use our in house built AI GPT so our usage stats can go up to please the CEO who is annoyed we don't use the AI tool enough as we spent so much money on it. Is a classic finding problems for a solution
My brain exploded while trying to read that garbled mess. No surprise your boss wants AI.
How many people have found a usecase for it since then?
Bro, do we work in the same company o what?
oh you work for msft
@spoodle it must suck for you trying to read high school grammar when you're sill in grade school.
The post is very well written.
You judge a post 'garbled' when you aren't able to understand it.
OP accurately describes how depressing it gets working for big companies that pay really well.
When they said AI, they meant "an Indian" so they weren't lying
Just like the true origin of the presents parents give their kids "made by Santa's elves at the north pole and delivered by reindeer in a sleigh driven by a guy who sees you when you're sleeping, knows when you're awake, and knows if you've been bad or good..."
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Yes and no. The reality is that the ai needs data it’s trained off of, ie humans doing the work whilst the ai learns from the growing dataset. The real issue as it seems is that when you pay people five cents an hour you get bad data. Who woulda thunk.
@@nicktrovato139 issue is that these workers weren't being used as training data, but rather there to take manual control of the stuff when the AI inevitably messed up, which it turns out was most of the time. It's a bit like those "driverless" taxi cabs that are actually monitored by two or so operators at all times.
@@torinriley7569 I know what you're saying. The dark reality is that AI is a real thing and it's getting better. We're still a lifetime away from sentient machines, but they are going to be really fucking good at specific tasks.
"Crypto, Juicero and Theranos are great, great business models" - Ai CEOs
Juicero was a scam from the beginning. Never planned anything real.
@@droonerJuicero wasn’t a scam. People were just too retarded to realize that there were already millions of other cheaper juicers(blenders) on the market as well as already packaged juice. Ignorance of a product/business doesn’t make it a scam.
They flopped when people realized it was juice as a service
@@droonerSo was everything else listed
For the founders and VCs they are. Those people get their skim off the top of all the funding whether the venture succeeds or fails. The only risk they take is running out of suc... Errr... INVESTORS.
"from Juicero to ten"...
Humane pin: Wow my phone does everything this can, but 10 times faster
Rabbit R1: Wow this thing is just a portable Chat GPT with some scripted events laced in there
As time goes on those “some scripted events” are turning to “most scripted events” lmao. RIP to the early adopters
I think it's good to have an A.I. device that doesn't require your phone.
@@laartwork would it be good? Sure
But from these 2 products, the AI part is definitely not ready yet
Then how come you didn't make one it it's that easy
@laartwork I agree
AI is just modern day version of Gold Rush. Nvidia is the jeans/shovel seller and they are quite successful.
Brilliant analogy, so true
"Our product sucks and we have to make a video about it in 10 minutes. What should we do?"
"Put on all the black clothes you can find"
Jensen Huang wear a leather jacket and everybody loves Nvidia, so I'll wear a leather jacket [badly] too!
Let's return to the day of the first Tamagotchi.
The good old days
The other day, I was at Costco. When I passed by one of the Tvs, it advertised itself as “making pictures look better with the power of AI” or something like that.
Its a TV.
Any AI device is going to have to be pretty damn magical to replace a smartphone.
Even if it is magical, why cant it just be put on the smart phone instead
Invisible, you mean?
Yeah it's not like people bought Alexa since they could get it on their phone..... oh wait
@@tomlxyzthat’s his point. The AI device would have to be like cars in the face of a horse
@@TheWizardGamez Some wise old guy by the name of Henry Ford said "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said 'Faster Horses'".
People often don't know they want something until everyone else has it and they don't want to be the odd one out. Like people who wear Crocs.
Some clever company is going to do the same with Generative AI. But it's a tough nut to crack. Has to be impactful, cheap to make, cheap to run, not replace something that already exists and it has to exist in a market that is not already saturated.
"If you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail" That's a bar
thats an extremely old saying
@@TheManinBlack9054And extremely common
Now we have a nail gun so everything needs additional fastening.
Several companies in my industry are putting false information out on the web because they know AI is reading it and regurgitating it to users.
It's so easy to compromise AI 😂 Every company should do the same. Fight back against scraping and inform real users of your website why there is this strange information 👍
Don't forget the massive power consumption of AI servers. Huge cost associated with that.
Every now and then there's a new buzzword in the market that people get irrational about, today it's A.I., before it was EV, before then crypto, mobile, world wide web, digital, diet ect
EV bubble, any company that announced they are making EV had their stock price sky rocket. It's the same for AI. Once Nvidia misses earning (who is the only clear winner with AI) watch bunch of these AI stock crash
You forgot metaverse, blockchain technology, NFTs, internet or things, and big data in there
Gotta love companies that are cramming "AI" into everything that doesn't need it or makes it worse
Numbers were released and Humane sold less than 10 000 AI pins, they wanted to sell at least 10x more, also you can't charge it, because the charging case is, in their own words, a fire hazard, but instead of recalling them, they give you 2 months of subscribtion for free.
"the future"
Haven't vacuums sensed hard floor vs carpet for...years?
And it wouldn’t even be close to AI, just an algorithm …
Yes, and you can now get a decent one for less than the $800 vacuum that Samsung is advertising.
I have an idea for the next killer AI app. It combines several buzzwords like AI, IOT, and maybe even NFT if I can get creative with it. Basically we've all heard of facial recognition but what about faecal recognition? Imagine your smart toilet telling your smart phone to not let you order 3am taco bell from uber eats again
We in an ai bubble boiiis
I think so, it (A.I) will mimic the growth of the internet: hype - bubble - bubble bursts - 'realistic/everyday' use/products developed - exponential growth leading to ubiquity.
A.I is at the hype phase/beginning of bubble phase.
Crypto, block chain, AI...
I‘ve heard experts say: Not a bubble (yet?), since we have not seen DOZENS of companies without anything proven than having AI in their name raising hundreds of millions. But we‘ll see. As he says in the video: Chatbots of company websites is really the only place I encounter something of this kind. On the other hand I would not call it intelligence in any form, just well programmed and a polished way to answer the 10 most common questions.
@@stefanschneider3681 Ive been working in customer service and most people prefer to talking with real human than AI. Of course We have a lot less chats with clients due our chatbot, but many people complaint that our quality of services decreased and I am not surprised.
This reminds me of year 2001, when Ray Kurzweil was blathering about The Singularity and everyone decided the world was about to end because of nanotechnology gray goo.
He said that we'll have AGI in 2029. Do you think it will happen?
@@TheManinBlack9054 No
You mean 2010?
One huge problem with ai no one talks about is all the electricity wasted on it
And water wasted during a time of global droughts
Thinking ai is gonna be a new industry is short sighted ai is best suited as an intermediary tool to replace some low level and bug prone back end programs
@wallstreetmillennial There was a court case recently with a Air Canada AI chatbot telling a customer information about bereavement rates. The AI was wrong and Air Canada tried to go back on what the chat bot said. Courts sided with the traveler and forced Air Canada to compensate them.
These airlines and bank bots are so annoying, you can't get anything sorted with them.
Yes, in fact. I was able to use high-yielding bonds, exchange-traded funds (ETFs), and shares to diversify my portfolio across several markets and achieve a net profit of more than one million dollars with the help of a financial planner. It's crucial to be exposed to a variety of businesses, especially ones that are already generating cash flows.
We've all made mistakes at some point. You should consider financial planning
Do you mind sharing your financial planner ?
You are most likely to find more info when you look her up
So glad youtube is more interested fighting adblockers than these bots
Love them bots
These ai in a box devices remind me of those game consoles that were designed for "blockchain gaming."
AI can produce results that are right in 80-90% of cases but then fail utterly in 10-20% of cases.
The problem is identifying those 10-20% errors because they are often subtle and presented with the same arrogant confidence as the correct cases.
Imagine hiring a mathematician who very often claims 2+2=5 and doubles down on it when challenged.
And if you need a human being to effectively check that output then you may as well ditch the AI.
This makes it useless for serious work, as McDonalds found out when their AI order system intended to replace human employees and save money, produced ice cream with bacon toppings and infinite nuggets.
It’s about trust and liability, a lesson a lot of companies have yet to learn.
AIBros, CryptoBros, and other TechBros demonstrate that Bros leave you hosed.
I am sure no one asked for automation of logging into apps from an AI, because no one wants an AI to log in to their bank account for them or help automate paying for buying items on Amazon or automate investment in their online stock brokerage account.
This is quite a dumb idea.
1984 and Ready Player One seem more reasonable every week. People are PAYING $700 (plus $24/mo) to be connected to god knows what for the purpose of having a less capable hands-off smartphone?
Workers : "hey boss we made something thats as smart as your average teenager."
Ceos : "PUT IT ON EVERYTHING WE'RE GONNA BE RICH"
"As smart as your average teenager" would be revolutionary. Today's AI isn't as smart as a human, period. Even animals can do many things that AI can't.
you've not spoken to many teenagers. Individually Great at some things, useless in others and generally lacking direction / perspective, experience or absolute certainty.
Something to work with and on but nothing revolutionary in itself.
Sounds familiar.
"As smart as average teenager" and thats not overwhelming because of what????
A major issue is that SV start-ups are way too often funded not on the basis of having a technologically and/or business viable idea but on whatever connections and friendships the founders have managed to create during their time in SV. It's basically the SV version of nepotism.
And, yes, AI is nowhere near advanced enough today to justify the enormous amount of capital dumped into supposedly useful applications. Investment in AI entered FOMO territory a while ago.
Exactly,
Most VCs are now in the race for the next Apple, Amazon, Uber or Airbnb in the AI space. Funding every AI startup to hedge their bets and hit a homerun when one of them becomes an AI unicorn
wow, did not know this......but I did know SV is creating its own economy with investor, VC, inventors......money circle......if they blitz scale enough, theh product will be #1 in market, create a new market, for items we may not want or need
Humane "AI" and Rabbit thinking they can singlehandedly transform how people have interacted with their smartphones using apps is the height of Hubris. Sadly most silicon valley AI startups are built on hubris rather than business fundamentals
That's true for most silicon valley projects in general
“Former Apple Employees” need to be viewed with suspicion. When was the last time that Apple made something ACTUALLY innovative and efficient?
In 2021 with apple silicon
Silicon is garbage try 2007
The opposite of my Handspring Visor. An absolute gem of a product from September 1999. 25 years ago this September. I couldn't afford a Palm Pilot but the Visor was exactly what you expect of a handheld device today. These AI devices are inferior to the 1990's which is laughable.
Nostalgia Nerd to the rescue!
I'm my workplace, the best application i could find using AI was to analyze transcripts of meetings so i could create emails summarizing the entire meeting. The other project is using machine learning to process invoices. Outside of that, it's not clear what else i could use AI for. Chatbots might be a possibility but i need to be assured that they are reliable.
The only thing shocking about these devices is that they put them in customer/media hands at all (i.e. they shipped them). They had to know they just didn't work. They must have had all the feedback from internal sources, because the media have been speaking in one voice about these things.
Rabbit r1 was a clear scam and Coffeezilla has been covering it pretty well. I'm just stunned they shipped it. Humane seemed to really want to create this as a product, but again, their own demos didn't work and I'm just dumbfounded they ever put this in the hands of the press where they had to know the use case would fall apart.
My theory is that the pin was not the original product concept. There are plenty of companies vying to be the U.S. version of Tencent, perhaps the AI was designed to be injectable or implantable and they thought it would lack broad consumer appeal. Think pacemaker meets Facebook. But not everyone is on Facebook and fewer people have pacemakers, so the product was redesigned as something one can wear instead. While this is pure conjecture, it seems like the announcements from Tesla about cognitive implants would have also deterred Humane from competing with Tesla in the cybernetics and/or AI market. And this is kinda sad, because we already had pagers back in the 80's, which is what it turned into in marketing department approved watered down version.
There is a reason 90% of startups fail. There is just so many crappy, unviable, and unnecessary ideas. If the 10% that do not die, 50% of those barely tread water and zombie on.
The real AI was the cheap labor we hired along the way.
That AI pin is the dumbest tech idea I’ve seen since the 3D HDTV
Many things that are "AI Powered" don't actually do anything special, or many not have anything AI under the hood, but if they throw the word AI in their product, sales skyrocket, so tons of companies just plaster the words on everything. And as you point out, they try to create a problem to fix, which no one wanted.
Imagine losing your job because some dunces in the C-suite thought they've found a low effort infinite money glitch called AI.
Which is ironic because the C suite of almost every company could be replaced with AI and nobody would notice
i agree. You can also add that Rabbit R1 device to the list. This AI hype seems to be a bubble that will burst sooner or later
Do companies ever get in legal trouble for faking a demo? Or since the product wasn’t sold yet they aren’t held liable.
The AI pin is like what was in Star Trek back in the 60s 😂
What kind of person hears the phrase "ai is the next generation of compute" uttered by the person selling it, and thinks it's a solid investment?
The kind of person that is very responsive to fake confidence. Look at theranos investors.
Most of the AI is added to things that never need it. Like the vacuum cleaner could (and might, just saying AI to get hype and investment) have a few sensors on it to tell if it's going over carpet or hardwood.
I interviewed for one of these companies but it smelled super suspicious how fast they were able to spin up, and thankfully didn't pursue the job
its always a good sign when the entire internet rejects your idea/product
I can still remember being annoyed when CNNs were suddenly in every research paper. I would kill to never hear "GenAI", "LLM", or "transformer" ever again.
That's such a silly, ridiculous, and non-academic take. If the term "CNNs" annoy you, you're probably in a field where non-technical people are trying to be technical, which is the fault of the field.
Why the F would you be annoyed by CNNs lmao???
"A solution looking for a problem" perfectly sums up AI as it currently stands. Almost certainly a bubble...
The idea of an omnipotent AI assistant eliminating your phone, isn't a bad one. It just only really works with people who NEED a real life assistant. They have a human that organises everything, does everything they ask, runs their life, probably prints out their emails for them to read and scribble on before replying, etc. An AI that could summarise, read them to you, ask for action, and do it confidently could work for busy high level Succession like people. Just not for most people. Phones are great for that :D
The vocal fry alone can make the product crash and burn 😂
If you have been "Involved in AI for some years" that means you can skip developing your startup company's new product and still get tens of millions of dollars from tech people. The product doesn't work, the pricing doesn't work it's just that the folks are all "looking for the next big thing" and they don't care if it will work or make money. Juicero was awesome. It wasn't a viable product, it's pricing was wrong, but, it was "subscription." Therefore it burned all their investor's money when all they had to do was sit down and think about if it was viable. Sun Micro knew the product, price, margin niche runway and couldn't build them fast enough. Xerox had the only plain paper copier in 1959 and they couldn't sell them fast enough. John Y Brown had a fried chicken franchise and he couldn't build them fast enough. When the product and timing are right you're never going to get a shot at that deal...
06:19 - The device never started selling, it just became available on the market but nobody was really interested in buying it.
The AI hoopla is just the last gasp of Big Tech holding on their overvalued relevance on the S&P. If everyone has access to AI, then no one has AI, because it's just a marketing ploy.
One case of use of AI is monitoring customer service workers. Call center software providers have integrated AI to monitor representatives to make sure they're meeting compliance goals.
If you let me change the battery in the vacuum cleaner and didn't glue it in, I don't need Ai to recognise the floor.
It's like every company wants to be Aperture Science now.
to paraphrase the great Peter Sellers in Murder By Death, 'there is just one problem with your idea... is stupid.. is stupidest idea I have ever heard."
Since I'm nominally intelligent I'm able to switch my vacuum cleaner for hard and carpeted floors. I use a biological sensor array integrated into my head to detect which is which.
customer service reps have abusive work conditions to be fair, so that's one industry I'd be happy to see go away and get replaced by ai
They messed up when they made the smartphone do just about everything they're trying to use AI for. It's getting tougher to think of the next big product to beat the smartphone now, but we'll see!
How does one go against big tech companies? They have all the power at this point
Good question and I have no idea.
As far as this issue is concerned, just don't buy in any AI-related companies.
Even the ones that are real are over-valued. You don't want to buy during a surge.
I use AI to add decimal feet, fractional inches, and millimeters but I still have to watch every answer
They ran out of reasons to compel you to consume and hope slapping A.I. on everything can keep the infinite growth illusion their stock prices depend on going 😑
I think it has a chance but that device needs to be reworked. I wouldn't mind getting away from my Smartphone from time to time.
Artificial Intelligence will never be able to compete with Natural Stupidity
Technology is truly incremental. Earth shattering innovations come along every hundred years at best.
Incremental, yes. Hundred year intervals, I don't think you understand what technology is. Automobile came out late 1800s/early 1900s. Very shortly after that, we had planes! Then, only 40 years later, we had nukes! Only 20 years after that, we landed on the GD Moon! And 30 years after that, we had the internet! That is 5 "Earth shattering innovations" within one 100 year span. WTF are you talking about?
High quality content, as usual!
I work for a commercial an insurance company…they are investing in AI…for actuarial and underwriting rating…so there is a market but not for creative….insurance is numbers and data driven which makes sense
AI is the biggest bubble we have ever seen growing and it hasn't even barely gotten started yet.
Spot on video and especially painful as I'm myself an AI researcher. There is potential in machine learning, but for something like chemistry, not this humane garbage
Yes, I agree with your position, and I doubt anything will change anytime soon.
Anything to sell another product...
Don't think we've forgotten about you claiming Red Lobster closed because of "free shrimp" when in reality it was a typical case of private equity raiding the coffers.
And taking all the shrimp.
Red Shrimp went bankrupt because people in the dark backwaters ordered for one person and then invited the entire family. Because corperate still wanted to keep the policy, local restaurants didn't care anymore and just kept the flood gates open not caring anymore.
@@tatata1543 I bet they had all their friends and family eating it up!
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Everyone's entitled to a bad take once in a while.
Thank you for bringing some sense to this latest tech bubble!
A lot of this is driven by the stock market: as long as the market thinks AI is the New Big Thing, making it known that you are implementing AI raises your stock prices, and so companies are incentivized to oversell their AI products and push stuff out regardless of how well it works.
"At Sequoia Captial’s AI Summit, the company pointed out that it has invested nearly $50 billion into the chips needed to run large language models (LLMs). However, revenues from GenAI startups have only hit around $3 billion. While ChatGPT was a huge hit and OpenAI is generating serious revenue, other LLM and GenAI startups haven’t reached high revenue levels.
New businesses have to solve a need better than their competition. They have to apply tech in a way that adds to the bottom line." Obviously!
The whole system is broken. Idiots with impossible ideas are given obscene amounts of money to waste on ideas that most teenagers could tell you are bad. Someone needs to be held accountable for bad ideas. The days of move fast and break things have left us in a terrible state. Please involve someone outside your bubble.
Good ai? Maybe. But with swell robotics everywhere, Ai jobloss is the only thing I worry about anymore. Anyone else feel the same? Should we cease Ai?
I can't imagine being a lecturer in chatgpt era, I am sure now 90% of them now use AI to finish their report and assignment
Exactly that a solution to a problem that no one has in the first place. The tech bros are so into capitalism but the customers are telling them that they don't want to buy their BS. Capitalism works that way too.
When evryone is super, no one is super
I see ai as a use of a tool in writing. To get a better grip on accents and too spark ideas in case of writers block, but ai can't keep track very well of what happened before so a proofreader or using as ideas is strongly recommended
As someone who studied AI, compliments, very sharp analysis
You're a student to AI?
How does someone “study” AI? 😂
I cant wait until this bubble pops
AI is mostly useful for governments to control populations through behavioral analysis.
For regular folks, it's mostly a personal assistant that can summarize long texts or provide some ideas on a topic..
And force people to become dumber and dumber than they already are because everything is being done for them and in the end, they won't be able to do anything anymore without the help of AI.
Finally! A voice of reason. AI looks like the biggest technological head fake in history.
The ballE thing is actually neat. With more capability it could be the first generation robotic personal assistant. It makes me think of Haro from Gundam.
Man. Venture capital sure does love its marketable buzzwords. To the point that they misuse them constantly
Humane AI should work in CONJUNCTION with phones as a PERIPHERAL: great for cities where phone thefts are an issue.
I’m still wondering if a test legal case will come along that shoots generative AI down dead. It’s obvious that everything from code to imagery an “AI” can generate is a reproduction with some changes of a human being’s prior labour. This is the nature of the training process. The providers of these AI products should not be allowed to take this work and make money with it.
Artists are certainly out there trying. There's at least a couple class actions going on.
The fact that the most up to date AI still doesn't work very well is the elephant in the living room.
People are calling some incredibly basic automation possible 50 years ago AI. This is ridiculous.
I wouldn't be as negative. It's really hard to tell how's it gonna be until the "dust settles".
The closest historical reference we could get is the internet during the 90's.
GPTs are only a fraction of the whole AI domain and they only broke mainstream around a couple of years ago. Even a typical university degree takes 3 to 5 years just to get to entry level. If you don't find a use case at this stage, that doesn't mean it can't be useful for everyone else.