Army General Says "Moldy Barracks = Discipline Problem"
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Mold in Army barracks has become an increasingly common problem at bases around the country. But the issue isn’t the mold, according to the commander of the 1st Armored Division, but rather discipline within the Army. Soldiers, Maj. Gen. James P. Isenhower III said, simply needed to be better about “adulting.”
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Don't know AC, talking about life throwing "curve balls" and such, seems Factor 75 should be sponsoring Ye Old Crack House instead, and yes, basement Jesus would approve.
A bit more sound dampers, a slight echo
Shout out to Richie always acting like a goober when he does ad reads, lmfao.
Hey AC. Can you give a quick explanation of how you broke your pinky finger? Your jazz hands... It can't be unseen once seen.
Yeah I was wondering why RUclips wasn't sending me notifications of your new videos!
Seeing how officers and the higher-ups behave makes it clear why we have a dropping recruiting rate.
Yep. Core values are non existent in O-5 and above. Then it’s all about politicking for promotions and posh assignments with zero regard for folks they’re tasked with leading.
toxic leadership is a major turn off for any profession tbh
@hmmph2467 true, however I don't think any military can afford to have shitty and toxic leadership. That's how you get fragings
@@LibertarianMexican Right? How are you supposed to have trust in your men if you give them every reason to hate you
@LibertarianMexican You act like thats something soldiers can do now in a time of peace when now anything less then a col isnt even in theater when a fight goes on and a cpt is the highest youll see on a fob for an extended period of time. The officer corps is seperate and not equal. There is no way to fix these guys but make them quite. Problem is its the good ones who quit and the bad ones who stick it out to end up in places like this
The Army: We'll spent 30 million to rename Forts to be more inclusive!
Me and the boys taking the same moldy ass shower every day during 12+ Hour PMT days: 😶
As an old saying goes. "If you bail-out the losers there is no end to the cost."
Yeah did that guy just say Fort BLISS? What the f*ck?
It is inclusive! The mold feels welcome and part of the team!
@@alexandercoyne5518
Tthere's not enough "mold morale"
😄😁
@@willyb7353 Can we discuss "mold equity"? Maybe look at the stigma of "black mold" and its relationship to "white mold supremacy"?
(I hated typing that, but it needed to be said.)
During my last deployment to Afghanistan in 2011, I was an E5 Aid Station NCOIC. My Medics and I were living in a wooden shack next to my Aid Station. We moved in in December, and it was cold as fuck. Our heater shit the bed after the third night and even while we were sleeping in full sleep systems, we were getting mild cold injuries just sleeping at night. Two nights after sleeping like this, I put in a work order (our unit mechanics couldn't fix it). Four days later, no one had fixed our heater, so I walked into the building to talk to the civilians that handled life support maintenance to complain. They told us our building didn't exist on their density roster, even though we had moved into the exact same building the previous Medical Platoon had lived in for the previous year. The lady I had been talking to showed me a map of all the buildings on the FOB and said they said they couldn't fix anything that wasn't on their density roster, pointing out the fact that our mini barracks wasn't on it. I said, "Cool, I'll be right back". I walked back to my Aid Station, printed out the Alpha Roster for my Squadron, then walked back. I handed the list to the lady I'd been talking to and said, "This is a list of all the Soldiers for whose lives we're responsible for. Do you see your name on it?" She said, "No." I said, "Exactly. If our barracks building doesn't magically appear on your density roster and you don't fix the heater within two days, next time any of you are injured by a rocket or mortar, we won't treat you because you aren't on our Alpha Roster".
Shit got fixed the very next day.
GOOD JOB!
on my last deployment, i was deployed as a horizontal Engineer, attached to some vertical engineers. our task was fob deconstruction.
we didnt find out till 3 months before the end of our deployment that the females in our unit had been forced to use a shower that was in crap level conditions for several months.
the floors were falling in, half the showers didnt even work, and there was mold everywhere.
and the civilians in charge of maintenance ignored every work order that was put in.
Incoming incoming incoming…. 😉
No you didn't. An E5 in the Army has about as much pull as an E3 in the Marine Corps.
@@xxxSHyZAxxx And that's why you failed. You let your rank speak for you instead of speaking for your rank.
I can’t imagine why people don’t want to join the military
My Army dad told me that I could travel the world on my own and could go to most shidholes/ metros to get shot at. All without selling my soul to the Banker's Empire for a car and some peanuts.
@@leighz1962wise Father!
@@leighz1962 I'm right there with him. 28 years old, I went on my first real flight and international trip. The ticket cost about $1750 with proper seasonal planning. Total cost about $3k or so to go. No need to dive into the Army, especially as I've heard, that if you have any doubt then just do not join.
@@dizzydoom4230Yup they even say something to you that in basic when you doing paper work and stuff before you actually start doing the real physical stuff. Belive its like a day or so before or after you get your hair cut
@@leighz1962 Imagine thinking an American empire would be a bad thing.
I’m just confused why we’re using so many contractors to manage this stuff instead of having the Quartermaster and Engineer Corp handle our housing. It all seems to boil down to “someone else’s job”. We’re the Army and we should be able to build and maintain our own stuff.
We did back in the 80's and 90's
Both those "Generals" own stocks in Balfour Beatty. No way are they going to let BB lose the contract.
Then how would politicians enrich their friends and families?
That was my thought. Why was it privatized? Why is it still privatized? Why are there work orders just sitting there not being worked? None of these people in the video interview are asking the hard questions they should.
@@anthonylautzenheiser3802 Damn that is some shaaaaady shit
My MSgt would always say if you dont like something call your congressman. They moved us into condemed barracks with the works, black mold, ants coming out of the sink, just laughably poor conditions. I took pictures, wrote a report and sent it to my congressman. I dont know if they actually looked at it but we moved out of that barracks shortly after. Thanks MSgt.
Congressmen have people that follow up on the issue as well. I got fucked over by the IRS during covid because I continued working(UPS, the mail never stops). They were holding my refund for 13 months and I wrote my congressman and within the week IRS had it processed and sent back to me. A month after, one of the congressman's associates called me and asked if the issue was resolved and if anything else needed to be taken care of. Never knew that common people had power through their leaders, and thats how America should work.
I was in the Air Force SO MANY years ago. We had a Golden Flow - no one ON or off the base unless you had a note that said YOU had been to Golden Flow. Someone's congressman's son was also on base. GUESS WHAT? Golden flow stopped. We were even WATCHED. This took place in 1976 or 77.
Golden flow?
@@ganjagank4787 Pee in a cup.
@@ganjagank4787 mandatory drug testing => pissing in a jar for drug testing.
After my first deployment to Iraq, I came home to my dorm room. The entire thing was covered in mold. It had gotten into my picture frames, grew in my bed, and was even in my clothes. Had to throw everything away.
Thank goodness for that hazardous duty pay I got to replace everything. 🙄
sounds like a discipline problem
Just curious. How long were you away from your dorm?
@@Eluderatnight 9 months
In Korea we went to the field for 3 weeks and the same thing happened. That's how bad the barracks were.
Same thing happened to me when I came back from Afghanistan in 2012
You know, I've never understood why, as an LT, I've had NCOs come up to me and tell me that I'm one of the good officers for doing things like "getting out from behind the desk and joining my platoon in the field when there was shit to do", "going to the CO or XO with issues I can't fix the moment I'm informed of them and keeping them up to date on what's going on", or "asking where the leadership was when a newly enlisted soldier is being fucked over by a shitbag NCO to the point the soldier was actively looking to get out of the Army" as I've always viewed those things as the minimum standard for an officer and that just by meeting that standard, I was nothing special... I'm starting to see why now...
I am debating commissioning but holy moly i'm not sure anymore
@@mingus445_gamingthere's a reason there are plenty of NCOs with degrees that don't commission. Go warrant instead.
The fact that they're impressed with you for doing what should be standard practice depresses me greatly.
My Captian saved my life in Iraq. Capt. Schomburg. I was sick and late to work, my super was writing me up. Capt. comes in, asks why i was late, immediately sends me to medical....
Was in surgery in 30 minutes having my appendix removed. One of those, "largest we've ever seen" things where i really should've been dead.
My super was an overweight loser named "Gross". He neither liked me nor cared what happened to me. But really, that attitude is a deeper problem.
We came into the tent to work one morning, several people, and there was an older sergeant at the tv in the corner by the door and immediately i kmew something was wrong with him, but everybody else just walked to their desks...... he was having a stroke, and i could tell. Nobody else cared until i started helping the guy.
@@SergeantSquared Strength builds compassion, but unfortunately in our hedonistic society most people have neither
I remember barrack being moldy everywhere I went for the 10 years I was in. The issue wasn’t soldier discipline, NCO’s like me would inspect their room every day. The issue was that the barracks were 30+ years old. ANY drywall that gets damp/wet immediately starts growing mold. Now put 200 or more people in one building and see how much humidity is there.
But I guess an officer wouldn’t understand that. Lol
When I was stationed in Hawaii they always told us not to alert them about the mold and roaches because they can’t do anything about that because the weather ……
How are they supposed to when most of them have some bullshit degree and anyone can get promoted if they stay in long enough.
I'll always maintain my arms, my equipment, and myself. Buildings aren't included in that and so basic building maintenance is not needed.
I do wonder how some careerist types who have always rented or lived in on post housing get by after leaving the service. Out here, you work hard to keep your home from going to shit or it costs you hard money at sell time
@@2x2is22 not to mention, you stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy. Not sponge.
@@2x2is22Let's just say there's a reason why there's such a disproportionate amount of veterans who are homeless: Many are former active duty vets who deal with a whole lot of arrested development because the military treats them like a bunch of man-children, and there's no impetus on actual personal, mature development for them.
Spent five years in the Marines. Our Barracks was without hot water in winter for around 6 weeks. Numerous complaints and work orders put in. It wasn’t until I wrong in the discrepancy log book “ No hot water, F*CKING fix” in it. More effort was put into disciplinary action towards me than actually fixing the hot water issue.
We had heat in the summer and after a week my friend submitted an ice report. Shit got fixed then
Complain=NJP=per SOP🤷♂️🤦♂️
I bet if there was no hot water over in the command building, the officer would have it fixed real quick
@@AzrealMaximus Refuse it, take the court martial, then sue in private court.
@@PH03NIX96
Appreciate it, retired well before their bullshyte.
Army Leadership 101 - How to camouflage shifting blame so well the victim questions their own responsibility.
They're all in the chemical corps with all this gaslighting.
Army Leadership of the future: You're getting Court-Martialed for getting wounded in the line of duty. We clearly gave you orders to not get shot.
Gaslighting without Iraqi oil pumps :D
When you can tell an officer has never slept in the barracks
Yes...
Being someone who almost went officer corps (until chemical engineering kick the living shit out of me), seeing officers like this makes my blood boil. Reminds me of the hoighty toighty engineers that can’t get their hands slightly dirty.
Let's not tell people that Soldiers can be trusted to be in charge of millions of dollars of equipment and be mostly unsupervised, but god forbid, they have a $20 toaster in their room
SUre didnt stop me. I had a hot plate, microwave, toaster. When inspections came around, my TRUCK was full of kitchen appliances of all the troops.
As soon as it was over, they all went to their owners....let the cooking begin...Plus being on sep Rats, how am I expose to fix MEALS>
@who346 dude I feel your pain, I got my own kitchen appliances because of the barracks. Also gotta feed them rats that live here too. But that has to be a discipline issue too ya?
@@who346you a real one
Sounds like the “General” is the type who made rank by throwing people under the bus and placing blame on others. When my family moved into new base housing in Idaho run by Balfour Beatty, a family down the street had to move out because the upstairs waste water line from their toilet was leaking inside the wall down to the first floor. Was that their fault, or half assed construction and inspections?
As they say, anyone above the rank of captain is a waste of good sperm.
Obviously their fault. They should've smelled the water leaking and fixed it.
Sounds like a -discipline- skill issue
Is there ever an officer who didn't make rank via backstab and bus crushing
@@ethanjohnson2849 one can also say that for senior NCOs. Becoming an E8/E9 is very political, thus it seems those who have sociopathic tendencies rise to this level.
I made it to E7 and an E7 for life is what I will ever be.
They’re 100% right though, the rusty brown water I was told not to worry about at Polk was my fault, so my bad on that. I should’ve looked ahead at my duty station as an E-2 and made sure there were plumbers ready to fix the whole plumbing of Fort Polk if not figure out how to do it myself. After all these years I doubt it’s fixed and that’s on me, real blue falcon here, I’ve learned the errors of my ways.
Soldier why didn’t you take the initiative and redo the entire base’s plumbing in your off time?!
Un-friggin believable. As a retired E7 I am ashamed of what the entire military has become. They know there’s a problem but they are so worried about their next star that they are afraid to do a damn thing about it.
Didn't you hear? It's all your fault. Why aren't you calling the contractors and complaining? LOL
Your thoughts on the dude in a dress rear admiral?
@@wesss9353 An embarrassment, that's what. Unfit for duty if they cannot handle reality,
Seems like they should lose rank for allowing so much to get muffed up.
And this is why every vet who saw Tuberville going "No promotions for general officers until you get the budget fixed!" was jumping out of their chairs, screaming "Yeah! Yeah! You get those bastards!!!". Everybody who has ever been in knows that the civilian Secretaries and the asshats who work for them don't give a shiot about the "stupid volunteers, lol, dumbasses couldn't get jobs like us, hahaha" and haven't since the draft ended.
I served from 1986 to 2015 and at NO time in those years would I have considered ANY of the housing I was offered (barracks and family housing) to be up to the standards I expected for my family. And I was quite aware that I would have to make major adjustments to live in those places. From housing so old there wasn't even cable in the whole housing area, to "new" housing in which literally NOTHING worked. Lights, appliances, outlets, plumbing, you name it. At Fort Hood, I was shown on post housing--mind you I was a Sergeant Major--a duplex with a PFC and his family in the other side. What PFC would want a frikken Sergeant Major living next door? WTF were they thinking?
From black mold, to no heat at all in the barracks. From leaking roofs, to windows with no blinds or curtains in the barracks. From barracks rooms with no doors to rooms designed for two people with 6 people living in them. I've seen it all. And what happens? NOTHING! Nothing gets fixed until the General is being dragged by the NY Times.
Family housing built by privatization programs where the garage door literally falls off first time it is opened. Kitchen cabinets falling down. Leaking plumbing. And the best I've see...a family housing area built on an old landfill. Guess what happened? That's right, methane leaks. Only an idiot would certify that kind of crap.
The bottom line is this. It IS a leadership problem. But it is not a 1SG or CSM problem. It is a GENERAL Officer problem and always has been.
Amen SMAJ!!!! One can delegate authority, but he's still the one responsible to ensure the task is done correctly. Seems at certain Officer ranks they want to shun the responsibility part of it all. Unless something goes well, then they'll claim the responsibility. Damn them for it.
Talk that shit Sarge
Oof if only you could've seen the barracks just 10 years ago on MCAS Beaufort. And the housing was shit too but at least they could split the housing between the juniors and NCOs but by health standards? they've gotten worse and I'm sure they haven't gotten any better since I've EASd.
PFC would shit his pants
I have three lights out, A leak, Major Mold, Conditions unfit for habitation that SGM of the Army orders us to be out of by about 8 months ago, and a broken bathtub. It is an issue that multiple people have tried to resolve. But hey I'm undisciplined and it is mu fault right.
What’s interesting is, I dealt with mold every single day in Fort Stewart. But then I bought a house off post and never saw mold again. Crazy.
As someone who has worked alongside the construction industry, discipline can't fix fundemental problems of bad architectural design or old crumbling buildings. Cleaning mold and sealing leaks isn't going to bring those buildings magically up to code, they'll always be a hazard. It's a gigantic waste of money to skip out on making damn sure it gets done right the first time. What incentive is there for private companies to do it right if they can just squeeze money out of every problem they can create?
you forgot lowest bidder problems
And this guy will give em a milli
Discipline will surely reduce the humidity!
But do you think those mfs who have been in the military for 10+ years know anything about construction?
It's mystifying why anyone would waste their time enlisting at this point. It takes a special kind of person to volunteer for a service that despises it's subordinates.
I'm glad i stopped pursuing becoming a career officer. Once, I saw this level of corruption and knowing I would have to play the game if I wanted to advance, I just dropped it. The officers in our military are a disgrace to the uniform.
Only kiss asses and yes men rise to the top, if I make it past major I’ll be greatly disappointed in myself
BIG FACT , BROTHER
So how does one solve the problem?
Would it take a Presidential level of authority to repair such corruption?
Serious question sir
@@siamihari8717Congress would have to care.
@siamihari8717 Do you really think the corruption doesn’t exist at the presidential level too? Shit their even more corrupt, their the ones teaching the military the benefits of being corrupt.
I get so mad over the way our boys are treated when they are deployed or at home. There is far too much money that goes toward our defense that our solders have to live in a moldy home.
"Whose fault is it that the Army has the worst living conditions in the military, General?"
"Well, clearly it is the lack of discipline of the soldiers who I force to live in subpar housing not complaining accurately or in a timely manner."
This right here is the single most damning issue of the army. The incapability for the leadership to take responsibility for the state of their subordinates at almost EVERY level. And they ask why no one wants to join.
I agree with the general; but the whole group failed to function. Anyone involved and is supposed to take care of the facilities didn't do their part. Now, I disagree with him when it comes to buildings that are condemned or should be condemned. I served from '17-'21 in 32nd AAMDC. They put an entire battalion (mine) in a condemned building and no one batted an eye. Sadly the brigade was either gone or being replaced so it took months to rock the boat to make changes. Then when the inspector finally arrives they claimed the buildings were actually solid and needed no repairs or cleaning. You can't make it up. Our military has the largest budget ever of the entire planet. Still won't pay to offer quality housing and restoration for soldiers. Corruption at its finest.
I was in from 04 to 11. Told my platoon daddy about pior barrack condition he said "I lived in them, they're just fine. " I got pissed and said "That was 20 f ing years ago. " Nothing followed.
That's the way it used to be, I lived in Ft Hood infantry barracks from the fifties. You just clean them. Bleach helps and knowing how to clean.
I’m convinced that as soon as an officer hits O-5 they become completely oblivious to anything happening underneath them
It's a leadership problem. They make the rules, budget, and put off maintenance to look good for superiors. I'm not even military and know this. It's common knowledge...
I'll never forget the two dead mummified squirrels hugging each other we found when trying to clean the mold from the abandoned barracks we were forced to move into after they had been condemned. We literally had to cut the condemned tape and sign off the doors to get into. The Bronchitis we all developed after living there for a month was pretty rough. Took me 6 months to get over. Ft Leonard Wood. Fun times.
thank god I never joined
@@anotherhairlessapewithanop7455 never join. Our government is literally evil, and they will use you for evil.
You missed a good career of fighting for Israel
What makes the grass grow green! "Sir ... thats not grass"
Please tell me you guys sued.
Privatizing facilities maintenance took away a whole set of transferable skills a soldier could learn and use to prosper after their discharge.
@russhackleford4912 -
Contractors are not bound by "soldier shit" requirements. They don't have to do Sargent's Time stuff, going to the field, deployments, going to the range, and other stuff that comes along with being in the military. The contractors can also hire people with the already skills and knowledge. How many NCOs actually knows maintenance stuff when many of them came into the military right out of high school or college?
Yeah, God Forbid anybody came away with something they could Actually USE, when their enlistment was up. They Harp on it often, but the follow through was definitely Lacking Big Time, and I assume it's still pretty much the same old Fuster Cluck currently
*THIS*
@@thespadestableI learned how to fix my own room. Kept putting the work order in for this hole in the middle of my floor where I could see and hear the person living before me, the switches in my room not working, and my closet hanger bar broke and punctured my drywall. Mind you I moved into this barracks with all these problems.
After a year of nobody fixing those issues I spent my own money to get the cement and matching vinyl flooring and fixed my own floor, patched and painted the drywall in my closet and bought a new hanger bar set up and installed it. Waited until the barracks had a blackout and fixed the switches in my room.
Like 2 months later so a total of almost 14 months after putting the work orders in, I come home to a note from DPW saying they had come in and fixed the following orders……. That I did my myself months ago.
I ended up becoming good friends with the guy who lived below me. A few times I’d send a taquito through the big hole to him and even at one point a light bulb. I ended up having to fix the hole myself because a female moved into that room and I didn’t want any drama or be accused so that’s why I ended up fixing it myself. This was in Hawaii. I ended up fixing drywall in some of my friends rooms too because they couldn’t get anyone to fix it
@@duckattak -
I'm proud of you. Now, get out in the world and Be All That You Can Be, you're still coming up a bit short in life.
The best part is elites talking to elites to inform people about how the common folk are living
That's what I never understood these people are so far removed from what everyday soldiers go through. Why do they speak on our behalf?
"Let them eat cake."
Army life's not so different from civvie life after all. Who wouldve thunk
@@releasethekraken5039the difference is that they can abuse you harder than the corpos in the civvie side could while leaving you powerless to do anything about it.
We had some fun black mold in our barracks. I guess I should have buckled down more. Also, the building settled in its foundation and cracked in half while we were deployed. I guess we were all just too lazy.
Yeah, but that's your fault for not understanding the soil and nature of the building. All it takes is one soldier to do a little googling and look at concerning things.
@@monkemode8128 True. You'd think with all the lawn maintenance and area beautification we did, that we would have learned. My fault!
Good on your for accepting your failures in this circumstance,@@lordflashheart3706.
“When soldiers lack discipline, the fault lies with their commander!”
-Tywin Lannister
As a veteran and a father with with a son in the military dealing with this very issue, this really pisses me off. There is no reason the military should be using contractors to take care of military problems.
It’s easier to launder the $$ if you’re not the one accountable for it.
There is an argument for many things, contractors are on paper cheaper and on paper you can build on this a highly professional force where everyone who wears uniform can focus on mastering their combat roles.
If you keep a lot of administrative/logistic/maintenance personell in uniform, you have mainly a source of money laundering.
And if you have to get into oldschool big shooting wars, this whole infrastructure crumbles.
We cleaned the barracks everyday and still mastered MOS and SQT! But then we spent a lot of time sleeping on the ground! C/1-504/82ABN
Those contractors tend to be *massive* assholes, too. The guy who ran my barracks in 2007~2010 was completely dismissive of everything we said, and weirdly confrontational about it.
Why in the fuck would we let people who seem to utterly indifferent to whether we live or die be in charge of our living conditions? It makes no sense. On top of that, there's nobody that you can report to for their behavior.
@@mattstanford9673 You are making them work, they are there to get paid not to work.
If they run down the building, it needs to be renewed, more money...
Give the people who live in the baracks the same budget voluntell somebody to be in charge and you would see the free market and soldiers comeradery at its best.
My “discipline issue” came when when I was moved from one condemned building to another condemned building a week before being sent to Germany for 6 months for Ukraine. After coming back all of my personal goods that I had locked up in the closet, like I was told to do, had mold on it. The bed, pillow , clothes, tv, everything thing, if I couldn’t save it I had to throw it out. Cost me hundreds of dollars to replace items I brought it to my leadership and never heard anything.
I can't imagine why recruiting and retention problems exist. Seriously though I served in the 80s and early 90s and I was told listen son you have some great points but the US Army has been in operations for over 200 years and I believe we have the formula for success. Thank you General Parker Ft. Rucker, Alabama.
Because barely 30% of 17-21 year olds meet the basic eligibility criteria. As a early 80’s teen myself, the physical condition and mindset of high schoolers is shocking. I just rolled 35 years TIS. You would cry at what BCT has become.
@@blackhawk7r221 we don't know how many meet the basic criteria because that 30% is of those who actually apply.
@@blackhawk7r221 Can't do anything about that, but they can fix retention by treating soldiers like people. Been out two years now, the way my life improved when I went from serving 155s to serving pizzas is insane. So much more freetime, better housing (I had no mold, pest control shows up if I call, AC works, HOT WATER FOR SHOWERS), I can call in sick, I can eat lunch, I dont need anyones permission to see a doctor when I'm hurt.
@@ptbelttactics Big army looks at civilian statistics. Percentage with criminal records, behavioral problems at school, drug usage, medical prescription history, activity levels, numbers playing sports, numbers lazily playing video games, etc, etc. They use the data that companies have mined from your smart devices. From that, they estimate a baseline of viable candidates. Recruiter feedback comes into play later when they verify their mined projected numbers. Shit is scary close.
@@blackhawk7r221I can tell you even the ones that meet them and would want to protect the nation won’t join cause well leadership from the president down is total shit
When I was very young, 18 years old, I worked on a staffing assignment moving furniture into Army barracks after opening the boxes for the parts. I mainly stayed outside and broke the giant boxes down before sorting the parts, because I obviously wasn't the muscle on the job site and the foreman needed me to do something to keep me fully occupied.
I was inside the barracks a couple of times, and once I saw a dark patch along one of the wall corners. At first I thought it was mold, but when I looked closer I realized it was a bedbug nest.
I told my foreman, who promptly drove to a nearby staffing office to speak with someone. He came back with a Captain following him (I wasn't sure what his specific job was), and after spending a whole 5 seconds in the room, he returned to our foreman and just waved it off. From what I overheard of the conversation between them, the Captain "reassured" our foreman that the issue was being resolved and all of us could finish our job, that day. The Captain also looked like he was packing an extra 20 pounds around the hips, back in the late 90's while that was much less common. Especially in the military, but that's neither here nor there. At least he had the right size uniform.
So we finished the job, I grabbed my time slip from the foreman, and I quickly went home to dispose of the set of clothing I was wearing along with my shoes. Luckily I had a spare pair. I never saw any signs of bedbugs in my car or home, and fortunately the barracks room in question was actually left empty and unoccupied. But those little fuckers spread like wildfire if no measures are ever taken to eradicate the original nest, and I wonder how far this infestation had actually spread.
That's effing disgusting
@@dravenocklost4253 I know, to say I was aghast would be an understatement.
I bet the problem is only worse now.
@@DARKthenoble I never was in the military. I tried to enlist twice, once for the Army and once for the Navy. Both times I was rejected for medical reasons. They didn't like that I took ritalin and antidepressants for extended periods, before adulthood. And I didn't want to try lying about it because someone would have raised a red flag, sooner or later.
Every veteran that I've become friends with has told me that I'm better off, though. I don't know about that, but some of the conditions I've seen at this Fort seem to partially confirm that logic.
@@GlidingZephyr same to some degree. Did you know they won't let you get dot in half of the states if you got high functioning autism?
I was in 04-09, and the barracks at fort polk were mostly condemned, but they still made soldiers live in them, regardless of the asbestos and 1/4” of mold growing out of the walls.
I'm in now at fort Gregg-Adams (lee) and we have mold in our showers. The mold was here when we got here, and the barracks inspection policy is that we have to clean it with bleach, a mop, and scrubbers. The same story in Ft Moore (benning) when I was there for airborne school but waaaaaay worse. Civilians literally came in and sprayed the almost completely black ceilings and floors, and it did nothing.
During our 1st TDY 🧳 3mo to RP 🇵🇦 our MP barracks, 🏘 were so bad, Fort Amador 1 of our E-4s/Spc contacted his GOP 🐘 connected family in IN. They quickly went out to VP J Danforth Quayle IN-R. Quayle's staff went to the DA, Chief of Staff who in turn, contacted SouthCom, who in turn contacted the CO 📞 of 92nd MP Bn. The unit, 555 MP somehow by MAGIC 🎩 moved into a 4 story bldg, AC, laundry, clean rooms.
Somebody should remind the generals that Army recruiting is failing, and their shitty responses to genuine concerns won't help the problem.
I lived in a condemned barracks at Ft. Hood for over a year. It was not good living. A couple years later when I was married and had a kid, I had to file a complaint to have the mold issue dealt with while living at ft. Knox. They refused to fix it, or move me until that complaint was filed. Then right away they moved my family. This was all before 2010.
This mold issue is as old as time. To say it’s cause by a lack of discipline is astonishing.
I remember barracks at JBLM having mold issues. Every team leader and squad leader called in work orders and brought issues up to leadership. We were all told it wasn't an issue. Until, somebody called their congressman. All of a sudden, CSM was blaming NCOs for not being in the barracks and addressing issues.
I'm in the good barracks there as we speak.Somehow I lucked out there. But I've seen the other barracks my unit used to be in....yeah, a first glance it looks serviceable, but dig deeper and....naaahhhh they're pretty gritty.
I’m part of a civilian organization with its headquarters on base, we had to move to a different building on JBLM because of black mold
I'm at jblm and in my 11 years of service I have never seen barracks as bad as the ones for 1-37FA
Our barracks were abysmal and the officers knew it, yet still they talked smack about people being constantly sick. We had days when more than half of the company was sick. I was sick for 5 of the 9 months I spent in there. From what I heard, on paper it was not good for living, but by the army logic we didn't live there, we were merely housed there.
It's the internal politics of the military that have convinced me to never shoot for E7 or higher in my career. Those E7's and up are always looking for an E4 and below to use as a scapegoat for their screwups because God forbid an E7 takes accountability. One of my former supervisors said I won't get a retirement ceremony or any respect if I retired as an E6. Dude why would I want that when I'm just an introvert who joined the military to pay the bills and survive? I didn't join for the free education, nor did I join to satisfy a sense of patriotic duty. I do it for the paycheck so I can stop living under my parent's basement. Survival is all I care about and I am not going to survive as a freeloader. Plus it would be hypocritical of me to retire as an E7. Why would I want to foster that E7's are superior mentality with a retirement ceremony when I very much disagree with it? You don't promote to E7 or higher without having some degree of bloated, power hungry, ambitious ego.
As an victim of this exact same scenario I can confirm its accurate.
@Pennywise0311 yet the good ones dont do anything to stop the bad ones..so yea..all of em
@@Pennywise0311dude... just get a full-color flag, okay? This one thread in this one comment section on this one site isn't the place to try and look like "the rational one".
Even if talk like that _didn't_ make you look even _more_ myopic
Former barracks manager from jblm: holy shit. Everything is now online and the civilians can pause the work request. They have 72hrs to check the issues. They can pause them so they don't "exceed" the 72hrs and not do it for one whole month, then delete it. I lost my mind on these civilians. I feel sorry for these soldiers. I really do.
They took the worst parts of customer service and added it to the army. They can get away with it if they don't have to speak to you.
I've had a clogged sink in work order for 3 months now.
The only way the housing/barracks problem is going to get fixed is if Congress steps in and these General Officers are made to fear for their jobs. And I have no confidence that will ever happen.
Yeah we all know that will never happen.
@@francisbishop5158congress members and these staff officers all have stock in Balfour Beatty so absolutely no fucking way it changes!
@@reanukeevesau i absolutely agree nothing will happen.
@@reanukeevesau i absolutely agree nothing will happen.
@@francisbishop5158 fucking ridiculous isn't it!
I ETSed a few months ago and I was at Schofield for three years. Schofield is moist, yes. The barracks did have some discipline problems from time to time, yes. But EVERY barracks building I ever saw there including my own had black mould in the vents. This was pointed out to multiple SGT Majors including by me to my SGT Major. The response I got from my first SGT Major was that the buildings were historic (because many of them actually housed soldiers in the Second World War.) Then a new SGT Major came around and I showed him my personal vents, he said it was bad, told me to clean it. I cleaned it, but I made sure to show him that it was literally coming out of the air conditioning ducts. Then later in a sensing session I addressed the mould coming out of the vents with that same SGT Major. I will not name names. But this man straight up gaslighted me and told me that they had no proof that it was black mould and he made it clear that nothing would be done about it.
This is not an isolated problem. This is an army wide problem. People are aware. All my NCOs had the same problems at their prior postings in Bragg, Bliss, Polk and several other posts.
Leadership doesn't want to acknowledge the existence of this problem and would rather let shit roll down hill and put it on privates, specialists and soldiers living in housing. When the real problem is that the Army has done everything it possibly can to just keep using ancient facilities and not spend money to renovate them or build replacement facilities.
This is why people leave the Army and then talk shit to their younger friends and try to convince them not to join. Because the Army is treating their soldiers like shit.
For Schofield it should also be pointed out though that Hawaii has egregious laws against demolishing buildings of "historic value", and most of Schofield's structures have fallen under that category for some reason.
I get Hawaii keeping that law for some of their ancient/early colonial type buildings, but with Schofield that is just ridiculous.
@@Wasserkaktus Army uses it to avoid responsibility for maintenance. Most of the time with ancient buildings nobody LIVES there. They exist and you visit. But you don't LIVE there.
Two words that can never go together in the military. Leadership and accountability. They always pass the blame.
NOPE, the Blame from top down always stopped with ME, the Squad Leader....
IF anyone in my Squad fxxked up, to a point, I'd run cover....
""He's New, He just made Rank, He finally passed the PT Test, etc. etc. etc. all day long""., but it gets tiring having to make EXCUSES for Fxxkups....
Either get your Sxxt together or LEAVE.....
I don;t care if you're a fxxking First Sergeant, if you have a Company full of Failures on Sick Roll, or RELATED, maybe YOU need to rethink the whole Sick Call thing and SEND THEM TO THE FxxKING HOSPITAL Sick Call People....
Don't burden ME with Your Bullsxxt anger about having WEAK ASS LAZY CLOWNS always on Sick Call when I got WORK TO DO!!!!!!!!
FxxK!!!!
Accountability and Leadership go hand in Hand....
Here's a couple more - Military Intelligence
From 1982 to 1985 I was stationed in Germany on a command sponsored tour. Since the number of Government owned units were insufficient, the Army contracted a German owned 23 floor highrise. My unit was on the 11th floor. Fantastic quarters, clean, close location, outstanding view of the German countryside. When I went to clear those quarters, I got "gigged" for not vacuuming out the window sills and for not cleaning off the motor under the refrigerator. Sounds to me like the civilian contractors are just sucking off Uncle Sam and the taxpayers. This shit didn't happen then.
Literally moved into the barracks right before deploying, took pictures of the mold, had a work order for the mold. Higher ups just said “it’s your room, clean it” had me trying to clean the mold out of my fridge, shower, air vents and the corners with a Clorox wipes
Sounds like the room we were assigned DURING Deployment. Black mold all over the window blinds and frames that the Previous Roto didn't clean and their NCOs didn't care about.
Our military has become extremely tyrannical. I really dont understand how our lower ranks can be demoted or even dishonorably discharged for just criticizing their superiors. The stories tell of american soldiers being crazy and showing feats of honor and bravery, but now all i see are creeps at the top dictating what can and cant happen at the bottom
Those stories need to be continuously told. I think the biggest way top leadership changes is if people on the outside knows what's going on; deterring people from joining.
Top brass is tyrranical and really don't care about enlisted living conditions.... They'd be fine with enlisted living in tents
It's the military, not a debate club lmfao.
@@natowaveenjoyer9862except that the ucmj was changed a few decades back to include being able to punish soldiers for stating facts about superiors. So not a debate club or a stating facts club.
@@natowaveenjoyer9862 Yeah. And the military needs to have accountability and healthy living standards in order to operate, don't you think?
Yeah, the dicipline problem starts at the top with leadership (upper command) not giving a fuck about their troops, pushing the buck off onto someone else, and not taking any accountability for issues that they now are responsible to rectify. Also, seems like everybody in any position now just bends over and takes it without question. I guess this is what happens when you allow physical and moral standards to degrade, just so everybody can 'feel' better
I'm lucky I was in a newer barracks when I was stationed at Ft. Stewart from 04-07. I had buddies that were in on base housing because they were married and they lived in older homes - Constantly heard about mold issues, among other things in the on base housing.
Edit: To add on to this logic these dipshits seem to be using... If it's a dicipline problem, and mold has been happening at on base housing for 50+ years... Then all of the officers who have been in the military 20+ years are by their own definition - Undiciplined.
Edit 2: LOL at 13:06, it's a 3rd ID dress uniform! Ahhh hahaahhaahahahah.
I like the "privatization fixed these problens" line of BS from the General. I'm gonna guess that someone has his retirement board seat lined up.
I remember actually having mold in my barracks before I got out. I didn't even eat in my room or store food in it. The first person I went to was my 1SG, who said to put a work order in. I had 2 work orders in for it already, but I never got called back for those. Months go by, and now it's spreading from a chair, to my bags. I brought my 1SG with me to housing, and they said they'd have someone there in a few days. No one showed. Then, it came time for everyone in the B's to get moved out to another B's while ours had to get cleared of mold, since the mold was in the ac and the vents, and I wasn't the only one with mold issues. I remember sgm for the BN acting like I was dishonest and didn't tell anyone, and getting looked down on like it was my fault that there was mold in the first place. Even though, they knew there were multiple reports of mold.
BN CSM job is to elevate and take of these issues on behalf of the BN CO. In reality, nothing is done. I did my 3 years and I knew it was time to move on.
I remember talking to a retired engineer in the Royal Air force about how a sergeant would walk around family barracks with white gloves to make sure they were being left spotless for the next family. When they started complaining the families were being put in substandard homes they immediately went into action. They fired the sergeants.
Our engineers in the Air Force do not have the manning for that bs. While that would be nice, however, the bases I have been too never work on base housing (stateside). I’m not sure if our overseas bases in Europe or pacific do that. Our stateside Air Force ce shops average less than 25 per shop taking care of 300+ facilities. It just can’t work.
I went to A and C school in Virginia Beach for the Navy back in 2013. In my METAL lockers, I was advised to cover my uniforms and everything in plastic wrap.... And if this was 10 years ago, I can only imagine what kind of absolute crap those sailors are dealing with now!
the plastic is just good to do to keep your uniforms from discoloring, regardless of where it’s stored.
As a former Structures Journeyman stationed at Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam, “Discipline” isn’t the reason why mold starts growing or the fact that most buildings are barely surviving as it is, and that’s not even accounting for where you live in the world (Hawaii’s a rather humid climate so mold grows like wildfire). Most base housing is barely holding up and some didn’t even have working AC, and the contractors are either buried in work orders or just don’t do what properly needs to be done. I’ve had to go back to work orders that were closed years ago because the problem keeps happening. This General is so out of touch it’s just sad.
You're spot on! Most leadership is typically out of touch sadly
I was there too on the Hickam side. We had black mold in our AC and were constantly putting in work orders for it. I told the shirt about it. "We know about it, it is base wide and we are working on it." 3 years of being there in base housing and nothing was done about it. Not to mention some of the street lights were connected to peoples electrical plan. So they were, in the literal sense of the phrase, paying for the lights to be on. Also the jet fuel being in the water. You could smell it every time you took a shower, or ran the water.
The conditions military members are living in are criminal. I'm glad I did my 4 and got out. I always recommend people against joining after seeing all of it first hand.
Our armory has had mold, broken overhead doors, rusted through walk-in doors, leaking roofs, inoperative heaters, busted showers and short circuiting light switches. For 5 years there has been maintenance tickets on all those issues. Nothing ever gets done.
that sounds like a security hazard. what if the mold takes over the locks, and they're easy to break with just some force?
Sounds like USAF CE, all lazy turds that can't get anything fixed
....why? Like, seriously? Why the inaction?
@@SnickC13 Do you think a lowly E4/E5 gets any more explanation than leadership wants to give? Most times you get the bureaucratic excuse of "the paperwork has been filed." But I've herd excuses like "the unit doesn't have the funds," and "well it wasn't brought to my attention."
He is FOS, I had to live in a barracks room with black mold. Numerous “leadership” came and put eyes on the mold. This was on Ft.Jackson. I was active duty at the time. The barracks was civilian run and neither them or uniform did 💩 for 4+ months. When I submitted a formal complaint after becoming ridiculously sick is when I was moved. The room was still not gutted and you have to realize that the vents are all shared throughout the building so you do the maths.
I got to stay in a hotel room on base reserved for admirals once when I was in the Navy. Dude. It was immaculate. It was amazing. It was also super cheap. The only reason I got it was because my orders had me checking into that hotel the next morning, but I had arrived at night, and literally no other rooms were open, and they had confirmed that no flag officers were showing up. So I got one night. It was top shelf living. I'm out now and make great money as a civilian, and I still remember how fancy it was. It was the equivalent of a high end penthouse suite.
That makes me think of the Specialty House on Ft Campbell, where you could Order Lobster or Steak or almost anything you wanted, but on presentment of Chow Card, you got 50% off, which meant you paid 1/2 of Market, and got super well treated....
I Loved that place, sometimes they do things right, sometimes we have OFFICERS who shit their pants while putting them on....
It's a Dice game, Deal with it....
Yes, because those hotels have either contractors or employees who clean the rooms daily.
And that's what these high ranking pentagon types see when they "visit" a post. Only the best and highly clean versions of every facility. Then they say, "everything looks fine! "
And in a totally unrelated move, they soon retire and get jobs at defense contractor companies doing a similar job as they do now.
Holy cow! Black mold?! That is one of the most dangerous "things" you can have in your house. Get out of the barracks immediately. 😵 Don't you even breath!
AWOL! Into the brig bud!
@@leighz1962 Does it have mold?
@@leighz1962 does the brig have mold? It may be an improvement.
The building I work in on JBAB took 3 years to get heat/AC… I was a leader and got talked to about continuing to bring up the issue. It just got addressed in Nov. so finally good.
I was part of a volunteer group of troops at Fort Stewart in late '92 through Spring of '93, who went through the barracks and replaced washers and seals for leaking sinks, showers, and toilets. There were dozens of us that did this in all of the barracks and gyms. If the seals and washers did not fix the problem, the work order was elevated in '92. My room was one of the elevated ones and when I PCS'd, in Summer of '93, I still had not heard anything. This has been an ongoing problem. We had mold issues then too.
A lot of those buildings have been condemned. The barracks on main post are absolutely atrocious with mold. I have taken whole spray bottles of bleach to the walls and ceilings many times in my rooms there. Glad to be out because housing and command didn't give a fuck. They considered it to be our problem.
Currently in Fort Stewart in the 1st BDE barracks, all they’ve done to address the mold issue is hand out dehumidifiers. There’s only a select few barracks that are being remodeled at the moment but since it’s private contractors it’ll definitely be a while and they’ll still fuck it up.
Just as a personal example, 2003, USAF tech school at Sheppard AFB, ground maintenance training dormitory, I decided to spend my weekend FIXING the black mold in the shower. Went to BX, bought cleaning products with my own dime, and went back and SCRUBBED. Hours on a Sunday. I was written up for it, actually got in serious trouble. Went I was put up for early promotion to E4 my leadership found my write up FOR CLEANING THE SHOWERS and my 1SGT actually tore the pages out. Literally I just wanted to fix the problems and got in trouble for it. Technically the "trouble" was because some of the cleaning products contained bleach, which I knew was prohibited, and I used it anyway. I think it was prohibited merely because of PPE and training requirements. But goddamn those showers hadn't been cleaned in YEARS, I was scraping layers of black mold off. Those dorms were the nastiest fucking place I have ever been in my life.
Which building was it?
@@youknowihaduwuittoem I don't remember the specific building (too long ago), but all of them of that generation were AWFUL, with the Nurse building being worse than the AMXS building. Rats running through the ceiling, aggressive cockroaches everywhere, just ungodly, especially in the lower floors. The nurse building I never went inside of, but it was gassed and then had to be evacuated for several weeks because the smell of dead rats was so bad no one would go inside. I remember smelling it walking by their dorm and it made me gag. One of the girls I knew told me about it as the girls were reassigned to a bunch of other dorms. I heard rats scampering around all night long, every night. Killed a 6+ inch cockroach (which was 3x-5x times larger than the average) with my boot after an inspection. Danced while standing at the urinal so they wouldn't climb up my legs.
Hickam AFB also had serious problems at their on-base hotel. After being attacked by bugs during a TDY I refused to ever go back there.
My company was lucky enough to have a 1SG who actually took care of us when it came to living spaces and housing. It was one of the first things he took care of when he took responsibility. He even got one of my buddies, E-2 at the time, a house in the E-6 - O-3 housing neighborhood. He was always checking on the barracks constantly as well
good people like that are rare
only takes 1 to make a wave of change. I'm sure all you guys greatly appreciated it
I remember back in AIT, out PS had us clean our two empty barracks rooms that were COVERED in black mold. You know what equipment we were given? Some spray bottles of bleach and washcloths. No respirators, no safety goggles, no rubber gloves. Nothing. And guess what, nearly all of us were sick by the next day.
You would need a hazmat team in full gear to clean that place, and burn it nonetheless
Sounds like they have not changed in the 15 years since I was in. It is never the CO's fault.
Cmon MAN! -Brandon.
It blows my mind how much of a South Park running joke our government is
my experience with generals was the same as corporate ceo's.. they exists to make money, to project and deflect problems, and to push an agenda all for the next coming promotion and duty assignment (usually a following political career).
Balfour Beatty managed two houses in my wife’s military career. I gave up on calling them and because I’m a contractor I just fixed the problems myself. Remodeled a full bathroom to get vents and GFCI plugs in them. Fixed sewer lines that were obviously leaking for years. By the time we PCSed the houses were in great shape. I really think privatization has been a huge step backwards in the quality of housing in the military.
Privatization just makes people in charge & their friends rich.
Its not Privatization if the contracts are handled by government bureaucrats and lobbyists. If the contracts were handled by individual bases and command or upper enlisted had the ability to fire vendors and rehire without DOD intervention would make the problems less widespread. If vendors don't have any fear of loosing the contract because the ones making the decisions are in Washington, Nothing will change.
I left Fort Lee VA in the summer of 1993. I visited Fort Lee again, spring 2013. You could see how DA & DoD drop the ball big time on basic upkeep, maintaining the post, mow the grass, re paint or replace the unit signs. I'd add in FY2023 Biden had Fort Lee VA's post name formally revised. 😏
My barracks fllood with sewage on the first floor and was condemned temporarily until we had to use it due to having no more room on the upper floors. We also had thenpower go out during a snowstorm so we all (male and female) slept on beanbags in the MWR huddled up just to keep warm. This was in Washington DC
HVAC Tech. Who was hired in was contacted in the Privatization project, I can tell you exactly where the money is going. The new stuff y'all are building is awesome, well built and designed stuff with specs that would make Chemical Labs envious. The massive problem is the old stuff. I did some testing and balancing on a older office staff building and the system was running at 25% capacity with coils that hadn't been cleaned in 10 years and filters that hadn't been changed in 3 years. And this was in Texas so that is very unwise. We got the old system up to 85% after a week of work and without replacing anything. You guys need more of this.
General, Sir, you do realize mold is a living thing that grows, yes? Shouldn’t it be because of a housekeeping company quality problem? Am I thinking too hard?
Most bases have state employed civilian engineers and cleaners. The cleaners clean the rooms and bathroom. The engineers are the ones that build, remove moldy infrastructure and often the cause of it like using caulk that molds in bathrooms..
Man this triggers me a bit. I served in Ft. Hood where we had a mold problem, and I looked into it, as I had worked on AC units before I served. The AC units on the roof had never been properly serviced, the drip pans were completely full and not draining properly, there was corrosion, and water damage around all of them, they looked like they had never been serviced properly much less had any shock tabs in them to prevent mold. The filters were never changed, and they are supposed to be chaged at the most every 4-6 months. I submitted a complaint about the mold, to the company office that was supposed to be in charge of maintain everything for our buildings but their office was always locked up and never used so I bet the stupid complaint was sitting in there even after I left a few months later. I did this all after I got laid into during a room inspection for the mold all over the vents, and covering almost everything else after the room was opened while I was on leave and not there to try and clean it. Even after I took pictures of all the damage, and tried to explain how much we were being shafted to my chain of command nothing was done until a few weeks before I left, when they finally did a mold test and freaked out. Half the building was shut down and they spent probably hundreds of thousands of dollars to go in and remove the mold from several buildings. The stupid thing about all of that is that they could have prevented all of that if they would have done a bare minimum of maintenance on the AC systems. And not blamed the soldiers for having "dirty rooms".
Nothing worst than having to go to work or deployed and having to leave your family in those conditions. As a USMC Captain (with a wife and two babies) I had my share of very bad and crazy housing issues back in my day (1989 to 1995) at three bases. Cockroaches, ants, mold ..... I can see things haven't change. The one thing I did like was that they had the "Self Help Building" where the Marines on base housing could go to get insecticides, cleaning materials, repair material and equipment to do the things that base housing dragged their feet on. If they couldn't do the fix at least they gave the Marines / Troops the resources to do it themselves and protect their families.
What makes me so damn mad about this is base housing.
Our last duty station was Mayport. The base housing was so infested with mold one of my dogs went blind and the other lost 1/2 his weight and never recovered. I had 4 kids at the time and the one that was not in school got asthma, the baby has auto immune issues now. I went from 210lbs to 145lbs and they thought I was going to die.
We moved back to our farm 2 hours away and my wife drove to base daily.
I was retired by then.
They came in full hazmat to remodel our bathroom. I asked if my kids should have those, they didn’t answer.
They said if the black stuff in the air vents was beyond there elbows it’s mold and before it’s mildew. He was 6’4” and I’m 5’9”. I asked his elbows or mine.
A kid put a hole in the wall and one 2x4 frame was covered in black and the next one was plain pine. They said it’s anti fire agent!
Giving non compete contract to Balfour beauty for base housing is a crime. Our service men and woman are getting sick from their lack of maintenance and disgusting housing.
If we didn’t move I probably would be dead and we were only there 6 months!
navy?
@@mingus445_gaming my wife yes. She was the MC on the New York before she retired.
I was out long long long before her.
@@nathanbattles3958 It seems like the navy has the absolute worst when it comes to base housing. My condolences.
@@mingus445_gamingYou are correct about that. The barracks I stayed in at NTC San Diego (1996), while attending RM 'A' School was old and filthy. Years later, I had developed adrenal and thyroid issues. Needless to say, the VA will always choose 'not service connected'. Even after I told them that the base was eventually closed and the contractor that demolished the area said there were high levels of asbestos and lead. It's now repurposed as Liberty Station. The TPU barracks at Norfolk were no better. It's definitely a larger issue than any command/branch wants to admit.
@@willhavel4525 Lord have mercy!
I worked for a large installation's DPW for a couple years specifically on renovating barracks. Our ARMY standards, if followed, would keep the barracks immaculate. Our civilian/military contracting oversight, however, dont always care that much, so when the contractor screws up or something goes wrong, it is a really hard fight to win. Some of us civilians really do try and care though, we love you all, thank you for the sacrifices yall make every day!
Oh, and I can't say specific numbers and it really varies installation to installation, but 1 mil is maybe enough to do a nice pretty little facelift, not actually fix the HVAC and electrical issues that CAUSE the barracks to suck! Think $7-15 mil per and then we can get some shit done right.
I had mold and other issues in housing, after three years of work orders and being told to use just soap and water since there’s no money to fix the issue, durning a housing inspection with a CWO and civilian housing officer I was asked if there are any issues of concern and as soon as I mentioned mold I was immediately screamed at and told by the civilian housing officer that “you are just an enlisted member, I don’t need to speak or deal with you”
They’re quickly condemning the dorms at ADAB because of some genius budgeting. Basically it’s all drop ceilings in an 80% humid environment. There’s a central air conditioner/dryer that died a long time ago. The rooms have their own A/Cs. So what’s happening is you have hot humid air on one side of a thin corrugated plastic ceiling tile, and cold dry air on the other. Resulting in so much moisture condensing in the attic that water would begin to leak from the ceiling. We were emptying 2 one gallon buckets twice a day. After 4 months of sleeping in mold, they finally condemned just a few of the rooms, even though they all share the same attic. Then someone’s ceiling caved in while they were sleeping, and the whole bay was condemned.
Everyone knows that when you first get to your unit, your suppose to use 2 weeks of leave and your first 3 paychecks to remodel your barracks room. Eliminating all the mold and modernizing the barracks.
Unironically is there a grain of truth in this? Would troop: actually take a bit of vacay to deep clean and fix the rooms?
Unauthorized work/destruction of government property/insert various other charges or NJPs
@@Stinger913 no lol but at the same time I wouldn’t be surprised if someone did that to make their room habitable
Nothing like the Army shooting their own foot
🥉
You could call it a negligent discharge 💀
Maybe it’s new in the US, but when a documentary came out in Canada about the loss of Hong King in WWII, they pulled the same BS.
Documentary: the Brits knew they would lose, so they passed the defense onto the Canadians and bailed. Oh and the soldiers were told there couldn’t be a night time attack because “j~ps can’t see at night”. Even had a guy saying he was on the radio asking the officer if he’d like to explain that to the invading Japanese.
Military & Legion: the documentary isn’t true. Hong Kong fell because all the enlisted men were drunk!
And that’s when I quit supporting the legion.
Glad you reacted I was raging at this but I’m just a salty vet couldn’t imagine for the dudes still serving
These people obviously never had to stay in barracks. They come with so much mold there’s almost nothing you can do no matter how much maximum de-mold measures you take.
In 2003, I was on Ft Dix. There was a street with Army housing down one side and Air Force down the other. Army was all single sorry cinder blocks built in the 60s. Air Force was all brand new split level that anyone would be proud to live in. Best Air Force Recruiting poster ever
The TAD barracks at the Yokosuka Naval Base was built in the 80's and its still in better shape than the barracks built twenty years ago. One of the maintenance guys straight up told me that the reason we couldn't cook in the community kitchen on each floor was because they were terrified of the stove spontaneously combusting if it was turned on or triggering a fire in the walls.
High ranking officers being completely out of touch id never have guessed.
The type of ultraviolet light that's able to effectively get rid of mold is UV-C, which is a very short wavelength of UV light. Because of how beneficial UV light can be at the right amounts, this light is commonly used for disinfection purposes, which can include treating ballast water with UV disinfection.
At fort Campbell they moved us out of our company building to work on it…. It took 3 years for them to change all the windows and fix the AC they did nothing about the mold or the basement being flooded
This should help recruitment and retention.
No matter how hard you clean the Latrines, the mold will NEVER go away. Gotta love Fort Benning.
This dude really said THIS in a recruiting crisis. HOW is this dude a general if this is his decision making?
Fail upwards for a few decades.
The same reason we have a geriatric potato as president. Just a Bureaucrat and a fat cat in secret waiting for his kick backs.
The sad thing is that it’s not just barracks, but also on-post family housing. Amazing what you don’t have to do when you don’t have to follow any building standards and codes…
I remember my battalion moved to a different area and my company went from a new barracks to an old shitter barracks. First morning in the new room me and my roomie wake up to 8 cockroaches scattered throughout the room, one of my friends woke up in his room with one on his head. Brought it up to our battalion CO and SGTMAJ when they came through for the first field day of the new barracks when they asked “how’s the new barracks” and they told me, “well marines you just have to learn how to clean better”. Turns out the vent system in our barracks was infested with cockroaches and it wasn’t until every platoon commander was complaining to the company CO that they got an exterminator crew to come out while we were in the field over a month later. And they wonder why people don’t re-enlist.
Something that I think is fairly common amongst the services is this: Leadership above the Battalion/Squadron/Ship level is extremely rare and even at these levels is 50/50. Neither of those men are leaders. They are managers.
here is the entire video posted to FB. fb.watch/nZ0qXA_7IP/
Pin these losers? Make them famous?
*PLEASE*
Seen rooms with fuzzy mold on the walls and holes in the sheetrock. On Camp Pendleton I heard stories about tubs falling through the floor and knew someone who found black mold after the water heater leaked and had to fight housing to get it taken care of.
I read of a young kid around 12, went into his new on post Fort Hood(name now changed) 🏠. The boy fell through a closet door 🚪 due to poor condition, mold-rot. It's pathetic that in FY2024 our troops, family members must live in squalor 🏚 but displaced persons stay in swanky hotels, 🇺🇦 gets billions in aid funds.
Always a head turning moment to hear my duty station mentioned in an AC video (Fort Bliss, TX)
Ah yes, my first deployment to the Middle East. I was about to learn that not only was I issued a moldy, roach infested, humid barracks room (Bahrain is insanely humid and hot), but I was also responsible for it being in that condition. Before anyone blames the Senior Chief in charge of those barracks, I'll say that many work orders and requests are put out. He's doing his job very well but nothing gets done about it. My DD-214 blanket is sooooo soft =)
It’s not much better being there as a
Civvie either. Don’t forget about the wall penetrating body odor too! 🤣
That’s hilarious. I lived in newish barracks on my first and only post, and it was covered in mold. I grew sick randomly and couldn’t stop sneezing. Of course the doctor says it’s all allergies. A few weeks later the ncoic of the barracks comes to the first floor and was like everyone pack up. So we’re all like wtf? Turns out they shut down the entire first floor due to black mold.
As a wisco nasty girl, the old ft mccoy barracks used to be pretty brutal. They're being redone right now, but the new barracks... are... awful. Was there for a course this spring and the upper floor bathroom/shower room didn't have operating drains. That's right. Every time anyone showered, the floor flooded. I mean inches of water if it was more than one person. I had 2 E8's in that class with me. One of them ended up paying out of pocket for a hotel room off post.
Shit was wild.
I was in the Marines and our barracks at MCAS New River had a serious black mold problem. We were told to just use soap and water and clean it. One of my friends room had a constant mildew smell no matter how much he tried to clean and would get hit every week on room inspection. When they finally got around to addressing the issue they failed to actually put the sealant on the walls and just repainted them so it came back.
Yeah soap and water isn’t going to do shit. I don’t think they realize how tough mold is. You can think you got all of it but it’s still there and spreading. It literally grows into anywhere if takes place. And if those roots aren’t gone then it’ll come back. Literally if you get mold in ventilation or hvac you have to steam kill if some specialized chemicals to kill it
Yeah those barracks are shit, from around WWII and barely working A/C and heater. We had someone heat case laying in their room during summer like 2 or 3 years ago. Yet they decide that dental needed their own building instead of us getting new Barracks
I know you have been blocked from achieving higher rank due to saying what needs to be said for other enlisted.
Not military and I'm so thankful for your standing up and saying the things THAT SHOULD be talked about and sadly upper management as per usual inside and out don't care about fixing.
They punish the nails that stand up.
Been subbed since the start and honestly so proud of you and thankful you care so much about those around you!
I hope the noise made about this seriously well buried video actually reach someone who cares.
Be Well Rich you rock!
Back in '09, there was still bullet holes in the walls of my barracks from WW2
The barracks here at Fort Benning are the same exact design as the ones developed for Arizona. It causes an unfixable mold problem due to the humidity in GA. After talking with multiple maintenance team members, I learned that there only course of action to fix the mold problem, is to go out to the Barracks and wipe the mold down. They never actually fix the problem , just wipe and down, so it's back in another week.
I was a barracks manager at Fort Benning for the last year and a half. Just got out. I know exactly what you're talking about and how much of an issue it is 🙄
If it's the ones I saw at airborne while going to the gym, all the ones like that at bragg got condemned for unfixable mold issues.