He studied a lot of patients and based his theories on that. Although his theories may be dismissed nowadays, people have to understand they didn’t come out of his ass
Don't understand why we're even still being taught Freud. Besides his technical approaches to studying behavior and defense mechanisms, the rest of what he had to say was really woo-woo.
Sometimes studying something wrong can help you come to an appreciation of the great ideas that came as a result. The thoroughly developed ideas of Freud were a starting point for many to disprove his theories and make better ones. It’s hard to study the psyche but Freud was a pioneer.
Pretty awesome chart. I'm in my junior year of psych and although I've read the material, this presentation really helped to make the connections click. I love the colors and simple process of explanation. Keep them coming !
Graham B I believe that fixation during that latent period leads to lack of communication skills and/or inabilities and complications with same sex relationships. I didn’t have any girl friends when I was younger and only hung out with boys but somehow find myself always being insecure of my relationships to females. I can never be friends with them and I find it hard to socialize with them. I see them as rivals etc. but I also think I have a phallic fixation as well
It was not Freud that termed the Electra Complex, was Carl Jung and Freud disapproved it. The process is not quite the same as the Oedipus Complex. Reference: Jung, C. G. (2012). Psychology of the Unconscious. Courier Corporation.
I believe that fixation during that latent period leads to lack of communication skills and/or inabilities and complications with same sex relationships. I didn’t have any girl friends when I was younger and only hung out with boys but somehow find myself always being insecure of my relationships to females. I can never be friends with them and I find it hard to socialize with them. I see them as rivals etc. but I also think I have a phallic fixation as well
Couldn't agree more with all these comments about why are we learning this. Freud is so old school and not relative to today's learning and understanding.
I have recently studied this theory in psychology class. I believe its definitely true and the logic very well holds true with respect to the various adult fixations thats so conspicuous to us in our everyday surroundings. Some suggestions- In the oral stage, i believe the parents should never totally stop their child from sucking the thumb as its a really important stage which can affect the future behavioural characteristics of the child. Every parent must be educated on the psycho sexual stages of development so that they are well aware of their child's behaviour and address them well enough. Anal stage must definitely be catered to as it shapes the person's personality in the future. The rest of the stages are very normal and little can be done about them
I agree. What should be done after realizing that someone's issues are related to a stage? making connections with trauma from the past isn't that hard but I'm not sure how that's useful to resolve it, not just understand it.
Freud also said that (in the same theory you're talking about) catering to a child's needs too much can also cause fixations and neediness. Not trying to be rude or anything but nobody called you out on that fact so I thought I should
During the Phallic stage, what if the Child have no either Father or Mother? (Ex. Either the Mother or the Father died) What will happen to those complex?
Sometimes life feels like you can either hammer a nail in or you can gen an engineering degree and build a robot to hammer a nail in and then get rid of all the hammers.
this is an abridged version of Freud's libido Theory. Libido focuses on friends during the latent period Homosexuality is the fixation at the latent period. Why this is so commonly distorted ? Its obvious !
GRiMHOLD - this was the start and or exploring development. Freud also helps us understand that we have an unconscious. These were the first PPP to present this kind if though. That is why the best form of therapyo I have Bipolar 2.
Thank you! I believe that psychoalysis is only for diagnosis, not for treatment. The problem is who scores first, not the relationship quality. You are forgetting that the time parameter is present in all our life, it's a kind of cultural illness. The overvaluation of time sometimes is that we go crazy. That's because we are involved into a competition dynamic instead cooperation.
How can you treat someone when questions of ethics and how one should act are still up in the air. How can he prescribe how someone should be and what a normal person should think when we don't even know ourselves?
I didnt quite understand what you meant by tension and fixation. I mean what is the tension due to? what is meant by fixation? Please if anyone could help. Thank you.
he was correct about there being a relationship between the brain's view of parental archetypes and its sexual development, with much of it being the brain's perceptions of love, touch, intimacy, and pleasure, as well as the taboo bodily organs, he missed the mark with the absurd details he added on afterwards
Not intending to be rude or anything, but did anyone notice something's off, like freudian slips from the speaker on @6:09 @7:46 @9:13 . . ?? No? 😅 P.S. Thank you for this. A bit simplified, but due to time constraints, I guess it is already understood. I'll have to read more into it then. Toodles.
Cool theory but you lost me at "sexual dysfunction" and "sexually mature and mentally unhealthy" So... To confront the elephant in the room it feels like a shot at the LGBT community. I don't know why people feel the need to walk around topics like this and make a someone else's preference seen inappropriate or unhealthy. I get where the chart is going, makes a lot of sense, it's science but use better words, please. Don't dance around the subject people are different, not because they idolized either their mom or dad based on their gender and they're definitely not in your words "mentally unhealthy" because of it. It's not a big deal its just a little pet peeve of mine. I know it wasn't meant to be disrespectful, I'm just throwing my opinion out there.
The speaker is teaching us a scientific theory. She does not necessarily agree with or believe any of it. She presents the theory as fact because within the context of this unit of study, these are the facts. Sort of like if your English teacher asked you “Where does Boo Radley live?” - you would answer “Next door to Jem and Scout”. Although you know that Boo Radley does not actually exist, you would still present your answer as fact.
I believe its definitely true and the logic very well holds true with respect to the various adult fixations thats so conspicuous to us in our everyday surroundings. Some suggestions- In the oral stage, i believe the parents should never totally stop their child from sucking the thumb as its a really important stage which can affect the future behavioural characteristics of the child. Every parent must be educated on the psycho sexual stages of development so that they are well aware of their child's behaviour and address them well enough. Anal stage must definitely be catered to as it shapes the person's personality in the future. The rest of the stages are very normal and little can be done about them (14BIT0104, Mohammed Afrid , slot-F1)
But it's amazing how Freud remains so influential in psychology. Even today the idea that 'envy' is an evolved function concerned with competition and status is generally rejected, regardless of all the supporting evidence, such as: ‘Envy’ is universal among human societies ‘Envy’ is both excitable and compulsive The focus of ‘envy’ is generally a perceived rival of the same sex We observe other animal species to act in ways which in humans we would regard as ‘envious’ behaviour ‘Envious’ behaviour in humans directly corresponds with ways in which animal systems of competition and hierarchy operate See hagioptasia.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/the-roots-of-narcissism-other-highly-problematic-human-traits/
I don't believe it had anything to do with homosexuality, it is base on children pairing off with the same-sex. For instance, girls played with girls and guys played with guys. They're just having the same-sex friendship, see nothing to worry about you are, perfectly straight.
We are animals with animal needs. Sexuality in the early stages of development only serve as the source of motivation and energy to move forward in eventually becoming a full developed adult animal( in our case human).
When they refer to homosexuality; they're not talking about girl wanting to be sexual with other girls or a boy wanting to be sexual with other boys ( though it can happen). Homo=same, the same, equal, like ; sexual=Of or relating to gender. The theory simply states that we are attracted to the same sex because we feel comfortable with what we know and as we develop and mature we become more daring in exploring the opposite sex.
You are probably, and I wonder if a thorough knowledge of libido theory is necessary. However for me it answered the question What is wrong with me? and I wish I knew 30 years earlier. Freud believed that after 50 therapy was useless.
AgentPurple13 that means you were raised balanced and healthy. Otherwise you would have developed a fixation that was carried to your adulthood. She talks about it at the end. :)
@@ramitseth9865 Actually, according to the theory, all sexual attraction in the phallic stage is in the child's unconscious, i.e., he/she will not be aware of it. The child will be hostile towards the same-sex parent at first, and then after successful resolution of the complex he/she will be identifying with them instead. But throughout, the sexual feelings behind this that Freud proposed are in the unconscious.
I’m not usually one to complain, but how are they still teaching this in public schools, in the 21st century? I’m probably overreacting, but this theory is beyond offensive... When you say “opposite-sex,” how exactly are the LGBT kids supposed to feel? Some are easier manipulated than others, so when going through the stages, talking about how if they are ‘successful,’ then you should go through all this, that’s behind insensitive, and extremely unhealthy. Healthy is accepting yourself, and happiness- not homophobia and hatred. I’m just baffled by the knowledge of some people. And don’t give me that “homosexuality was illegal then,” bullshit, pay close attention to the word “THEN,” the rules are changed, being gay is okay in most of America at this point, yet teachers are STILL teaching it like this..
I think Freud had a fucking fixation that seems unhealthy to me. Seriously, why do we have to learn this for the MCAT? Isn't this theory fairly discredited anyways..
Not everyone thinks Freud was incorrect. Some developing countries which have poor people and poor cultures can easily proved Freud's ideas was correct.
i have never been more confused.. why is the process of eating and chewing in a baby connected to libido? where is the sexual connection? someone help me out here please?
This might be interesting... It might be instructive... But I simply have to turn it off and reject it out of hand... when I hear what sounds like an immature 14-year-old girl... “A cer_ain thing... Tha_ occurs...” Sorry, but I value the phoneme “T”...
On second thought... I doubt I’m missing much, since it’s about Freud’s ideas. Freud, the not-so-subtle psycho-exhibitionist and certifiable whack-job.
I feel like Freud's psychosexual theory is literally his own projection.
I dont.
I doubt it. I’d doubt he’d remember being young and wanting to kill his dad and do his mom.
He studied a lot of patients and based his theories on that. Although his theories may be dismissed nowadays, people have to understand they didn’t come out of his ass
I do and I have to research what libido means. Cause apart from the sexual body parts, the rest of the chart is quite clever.
@@carlosvsiguejugando3102 That would be stage 2.
Don't understand why we're even still being taught Freud. Besides his technical approaches to studying behavior and defense mechanisms, the rest of what he had to say was really woo-woo.
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Sometimes studying something wrong can help you come to an appreciation of the great ideas that came as a result. The thoroughly developed ideas of Freud were a starting point for many to disprove his theories and make better ones. It’s hard to study the psyche but Freud was a pioneer.
Give me a break. Nothing was developed around sexuality since Freud, just some ideological movements.
Nothing Freud said was wrong, scientists today are too scared to study it
Freud was a fucking genius.
I have to assume "Socialism skills" was a slip-up on the speakers part. Unless 6-12 is when children learn to redistribute wealth.
A Freudian slip
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@@AlanaBananaCanada LMAOOO
Please Edit This! Please fix what has to be Spellcheck Errors transferred to Type, then Read without Understanding! Thanks.
Karl Marx had conflict and fixation during the latent and socialism phase.
marx was an absolute boy
I'm pretty sure the stage names themselves are easier to reminder than the mnemonic device lol.
Your comment really cracked me up:d but you are right, have a good one!
Haha I agree! If I were to make a mnemonic out of this, it would have been, Oh Anna Please Let Go! Watcha think? Haha
@@gailcastillo1765 HAHAHAHA good one!
Best video lecture on Sigmund Freud's Theory of Psychosexual Development 👇
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Pretty awesome chart. I'm in my junior year of psych and although I've read the material, this presentation really helped to make the connections click. I love the colors and simple process of explanation. Keep them coming !
Your fucking smoking hot
@@BeatsByClover bruh ew
well i definitely missed the part where you gain attraction to the opposite sex
What was your relationship with your parents like?
Anytime they teach Freud's psychosexual theory, they should start with a disclaimer that says "This is a lesson in history, not practicality".
Freud was a genius, you are not.
Could you please reiterate what you said, i didn't quite understand the History part lmaoo
I agree
@@laudeinvicta7113 Freud's theories are largely debated and ridiculed when it's comes to application that's what he's referring to, I guess
Please make more psychology videos!!! You're helping a lot thank you!!:)
Freud's theories help none.
The Latency stage plays a huge roll in a lot of adults lives. I'm just trying to figure out what the connection is
Graham B I believe that fixation during that latent period leads to lack of communication skills and/or inabilities and complications with same sex relationships. I didn’t have any girl friends when I was younger and only hung out with boys but somehow find myself always being insecure of my relationships to females. I can never be friends with them and I find it hard to socialize with them. I see them as rivals etc. but I also think I have a phallic fixation as well
Really well explained video...helped me understand it thanks!
Freud never used the term "Electra Complex". In fact, he rejected it in writing. Weird. Khan Academy videos are usually so carefully prepared.
It was not Freud that termed the Electra Complex, was Carl Jung and Freud disapproved it. The process is not quite the same as the Oedipus Complex.
Reference: Jung, C. G. (2012). Psychology of the Unconscious. Courier Corporation.
The sound seems muffled and is kind of annoying to listen to :/
Nice to know that you always look on the bright side of things
Bob Sydney hey its just my input
"Endurance is virtue"
I believe that fixation during that latent period leads to lack of communication skills and/or inabilities and complications with same sex relationships. I didn’t have any girl friends when I was younger and only hung out with boys but somehow find myself always being insecure of my relationships to females. I can never be friends with them and I find it hard to socialize with them. I see them as rivals etc. but I also think I have a phallic fixation as well
I find it really informative, Its a lot to digest
What a load of shit.
This is the only amount of time one should spend learning about this WEIRD theory.
Nice presentation, very helpful
Couldn't agree more with all these comments about why are we learning this. Freud is so old school and not relative to today's learning and understanding.
continue producing more video it's helping me in the field study of psychology,thank you a lot!!!!
khanacademymedicine Electra complex was not coined by Freud but by Carl Gustav Jung.
@Alexandra Ledesman well it was read a better one
Awesome video!! thank u!
Well explained!!...
THANK YOU
Thank you!
I have recently studied this theory in psychology class. I believe its definitely true and the logic very well holds true with respect to the various adult fixations thats so conspicuous to us in our everyday surroundings.
Some suggestions- In the oral stage, i believe the parents should never totally stop their child from sucking the thumb as its a really important stage which can affect the future behavioural characteristics of the child. Every parent must be educated on the psycho sexual stages of development so that they are well aware of their child's behaviour and address them well enough. Anal stage must definitely be catered to as it shapes the person's personality in the future. The rest of the stages are very normal and little can be done about them
I agree. What should be done after realizing that someone's issues are related to a stage? making connections with trauma from the past isn't that hard but I'm not sure how that's useful to resolve it, not just understand it.
Freud also said that (in the same theory you're talking about) catering to a child's needs too much can also cause fixations and neediness. Not trying to be rude or anything but nobody called you out on that fact so I thought I should
During the Phallic stage, what if the Child have no either Father or Mother? (Ex. Either the Mother or the Father died) What will happen to those complex?
Thanks a lot. This is so helpful.
Great video😊👌🏻👍🏻 really helped me a lot
Sometimes life feels like you can either hammer a nail in or you can gen an engineering degree and build a robot to hammer a nail in and then get rid of all the hammers.
thanks 🤗🤗
Volume is really low
Brilliant
it helped me to understand much better.....
All my stages failed me 😟
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this is an abridged version of Freud's libido Theory. Libido focuses on friends during the latent period Homosexuality is the fixation at the latent period. Why this is so commonly distorted ? Its obvious !
Doing a early childhood course learning about thus guy made me question if I was
Still doing the same course😂😅😅😖😖😭😭
Your voice is pleasing & easy listen to.
Hi! I sent some spanish subtitles for you to check and validate :)
Nice lecture thanks madam
cant hear
GRiMHOLD - this was the start and or exploring development. Freud also helps us understand that we have an unconscious. These were the first PPP to present this kind if though. That is why the best form of therapyo I have Bipolar 2.
Plato alrdy presented what freud told us later he copied Platto regarding unconscious ego and super ego alrdy told by Platto
Thank you! I believe that psychoalysis is only for diagnosis, not for treatment. The problem is who scores first, not the relationship quality. You are forgetting that the time parameter is present in all our life, it's a kind of cultural illness. The overvaluation of time sometimes is that we go crazy. That's because we are involved into a competition dynamic instead cooperation.
How can you treat someone when questions of ethics and how one should act are still up in the air. How can he prescribe how someone should be and what a normal person should think when we don't even know ourselves?
What's that frequency playing in the background?
Electra complex was "created" by Jung not Freud. Oedipus Complex already involves both boy and girl
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@11:11 not always towards the oppsite sex, sometimes same sex too :)
+Peter Nguyen She's explaining the way Freud did this. When it was created, homosexuality was still illegal so same sex attraction is not mentioned.
kinky :)
Peter Nguyen I came to this video for your comment. Thank you 🙏🏼
I thought Sal could do no better in the world. So great, thanks for doing this.
Hi...audio is not pleasant....!.. I appreciate u do better.... keep posting.. thanks.
on whom did Freud studied these stages? on his own children?
Somayia Hafeez on me...
He referred to himself, I think his childhood was full of trauma
On his grandchildren
Freuds theory is the most uncomfortable.
I didnt quite understand what you meant by tension and fixation. I mean what is the tension due to? what is meant by fixation? Please if anyone could help. Thank you.
the green color isn't see very well
he was correct about there being a relationship between the brain's view of parental archetypes and its sexual development, with much of it being the brain's perceptions of love, touch, intimacy, and pleasure, as well as the taboo bodily organs, he missed the mark with the absurd details he added on afterwards
Not intending to be rude or anything, but did anyone notice something's off,
like freudian slips from the speaker on @6:09 @7:46 @9:13 . . ?? No? 😅
P.S. Thank you for this. A bit simplified, but due to time constraints, I guess
it is already understood. I'll have to read more into it then. Toodles.
Audio not clear... kindly work on it or remake another video with better audio output
what causes these fixation of libido?
cer-an or certain? you choose
Please Review & Fix This! ....
There has to be Spellcheck Errors, which being Read Thoughtlessly, make Nonsense!
Cool theory but you lost me at "sexual dysfunction" and "sexually mature and mentally unhealthy" So... To confront the elephant in the room it feels like a shot at the LGBT community. I don't know why people feel the need to walk around topics like this and make a someone else's preference seen inappropriate or unhealthy. I get where the chart is going, makes a lot of sense, it's science but use better words, please. Don't dance around the subject people are different, not because they idolized either their mom or dad based on their gender and they're definitely not in your words "mentally unhealthy" because of it. It's not a big deal its just a little pet peeve of mine. I know it wasn't meant to be disrespectful, I'm just throwing my opinion out there.
The speaker is teaching us a scientific theory. She does not necessarily agree with or believe any of it. She presents the theory as fact because within the context of this unit of study, these are the facts.
Sort of like if your English teacher asked you “Where does Boo Radley live?” - you would answer “Next door to Jem and Scout”. Although you know that Boo Radley does not actually exist, you would still present your answer as fact.
I believe its definitely true and the logic very well holds true with respect to the various adult fixations thats so conspicuous to us in our everyday surroundings.
Some suggestions- In the oral stage, i believe the parents should never totally stop their child from sucking the thumb as its a really important stage which can affect the future behavioural characteristics of the child.
Every parent must be educated on the psycho sexual stages of development so that they are well aware of their child's behaviour and address them well enough.
Anal stage must definitely be catered to as it shapes the person's personality in the future.
The rest of the stages are very normal and little can be done about them
(14BIT0104, Mohammed Afrid , slot-F1)
5 key
Okay, great content, but please fix the microphone issue. Listening to this with headphones hurts my ears! :(
There's a reason in the dreamer's dictionary that Freud is listed last as a reference..
HAHAHAHHA syempre papanoorin ko to, good student ako eh
Psycho sexual stages shouldn't be taken too seriously. They're not recognised as scientific.
Correct. But the theories that he came up with are over 100 years old at this point. They have little to no stock in the scientific world in 2017
But it's amazing how Freud remains so influential in psychology. Even today the idea that 'envy' is an evolved function concerned with competition and status is generally rejected, regardless of all the supporting evidence, such as:
‘Envy’ is universal among human societies
‘Envy’ is both excitable and compulsive
The focus of ‘envy’ is generally a perceived rival of the same sex
We observe other animal species to act in ways which in humans we would regard as ‘envious’ behaviour
‘Envious’ behaviour in humans directly corresponds with ways in which animal systems of competition and hierarchy operate
See hagioptasia.wordpress.com/2017/02/24/the-roots-of-narcissism-other-highly-problematic-human-traits/
psycho sexual stages are real. Step 1: Join Tinder. Step 2: Congratulations, you are a psycho sexual.
@@tonymaloney6616 the bible Is much older, AND also bullshit. So there goes your fallacy
Love how the mnemonic 'old age parrots love grapes' is somehow supposed to be more memorable than 'oral anal phallic latent genital' lol
Whoa
Intro to pysch should get mandatory in order to get married. UN should pass this resolution.
How the hell did Freud prove this, some of his theory just sounds like nonsense
ok but why'd freud have to make everything weird
the audio is so low
I hate that we have to memorize this stuff for the MCAT, psyc classes etc. Freud was discredited a long time ago, its such useless information.
I don't believe it had anything to do with homosexuality, it is base on children pairing off with the same-sex. For instance, girls played with girls and guys played with guys. They're just having the same-sex friendship, see nothing to worry about you are, perfectly straight.
We are animals with animal needs. Sexuality in the early stages of development only serve as the source of motivation and energy to move forward in eventually becoming a full developed adult animal( in our case human).
When they refer to homosexuality; they're not talking about girl wanting to be sexual with other girls or a boy wanting to be sexual with other boys ( though it can happen). Homo=same, the same, equal, like ; sexual=Of or relating to gender. The theory simply states that we are attracted to the same sex because we feel comfortable with what we know and as we develop and mature we become more daring in exploring the opposite sex.
Best form of therapy is Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT)
You are probably, and I wonder if a thorough knowledge of libido theory is necessary. However for me it answered the question What is wrong with me? and I wish I knew 30 years earlier. Freud believed that after 50 therapy was useless.
How come i never experience things like that specially on the phallic stage? Hahaha!
AgentPurple13 that means you were raised balanced and healthy. Otherwise you would have developed a fixation that was carried to your adulthood. She talks about it at the end. :)
oh. makes sense. thanks haha :)
I think the theory is wrong about the phallic stage. Never really seen it happening in real life even with small children in that age group!
@@ramitseth9865 Actually, according to the theory, all sexual attraction in the phallic stage is in the child's unconscious, i.e., he/she will not be aware of it. The child will be hostile towards the same-sex parent at first, and then after successful resolution of the complex he/she will be identifying with them instead. But throughout, the sexual feelings behind this that Freud proposed are in the unconscious.
@@muniraaa However I have observed children in that age group and I haven't been able to notice any such 'hostile' behaviour towards the same sex.
Well......at least I know where I feel off the fixation wagon
If my patient is 6 yrs old, is he on PHALLIC or LATENT stage? Thanks
Phallic
I’m not usually one to complain, but how are they still teaching this in public schools, in the 21st century? I’m probably overreacting, but this theory is beyond offensive... When you say “opposite-sex,” how exactly are the LGBT kids supposed to feel? Some are easier manipulated than others, so when going through the stages, talking about how if they are ‘successful,’ then you should go through all this, that’s behind insensitive, and extremely unhealthy. Healthy is accepting yourself, and happiness- not homophobia and hatred. I’m just baffled by the knowledge of some people. And don’t give me that “homosexuality was illegal then,” bullshit, pay close attention to the word “THEN,” the rules are changed, being gay is okay in most of America at this point, yet teachers are STILL teaching it like this..
Looks like someone had a Freudian slip
Uhum
What bollocks. Well explained video though cheers
Lol, so you're in the phallic stage, then?
If that was really Freud's psychosexual stages theory then I am not a fan of Freud's work. I will stick with Jung for now.
I think Freud had a fucking fixation that seems unhealthy to me. Seriously, why do we have to learn this for the MCAT? Isn't this theory fairly discredited anyways..
Why do we have to call it libido
Not everyone thinks Freud was incorrect. Some developing countries which have poor people and poor cultures can easily proved Freud's ideas was correct.
OK video audio is very bad
When ever I try to think of a phrase it's always some sexual words.
In conclusion: no one is mentally healthy
i have never been more confused..
why is the process of eating and chewing in a baby connected to libido? where is the sexual connection? someone help me out here please?
porn hub could probably give a better mnemonic
speak louder!!!
Increase your volume dumbass
Freud had it right. I was socialist at age 6.
“…the socialism aspect and the development of new skills.” ☠️😂10:15
Wow. This is one of the worst shitstorms i've seen in a while and thats saying something...
10:23 Remember kids: Don't forget to develop your socialism!
This might be interesting... It might be instructive... But I simply have to turn it off and reject it out of hand... when I hear what sounds like an immature 14-year-old girl... “A cer_ain thing... Tha_ occurs...” Sorry, but I value the phoneme “T”...
On second thought... I doubt I’m missing much, since it’s about Freud’s ideas. Freud, the not-so-subtle psycho-exhibitionist and certifiable whack-job.
He was obsessed with his mother so he normalised it
Say louder
All my homies hate Frued's quackery
Absolute drivel.
I suffer from mental problems and none of this crap applies to me.
Nor does it apply to the people who i know that have what i have.
mental illness is different to a personality... it is not classed as a mental illness if you suck your thumb..
GRiMHOLD This is about personallity disorders