Great video Jon!! Only tractor I have the chatter on is my 4240 and it's only when I start it after many days of not running and when I start it the first time and the arms have leaked down. It takes many days of not running for them to leak down. I'm not going to worry about it for now but I think I'll start putting the lever down before I start it if arms are down let it run a while then raise them from now on. Thanks and take care man!!
Our 8440 leaks down after sitting for a few hours. When we start it up, it chatters until it's fully up. I'll have to check the coupler remotes for high heat to start. We pull a 36' cultivator with a harrow behind it. Seems slow when lifting wings or the main lifting cylinder. Another note is that there are unusually small lines that extend to the wing cylinders. Great information to look at. Thanks for the video Jon. 💪🔧🚜
If 3pt drops in several hrs, there is a plug below the right outlet on the transmission case, pull that plug and with the tractor running, and see if oil is spraying in there. Check pressure at outlets.
Great video,Jon! Your advices have helped me alot with the diagnose of my John Deere 3040. My tractor s differential section needs to be opened... Best wishes to you and your family!
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Hello. i ve got a 4230 , and i have a very low lifting poewr to 3 point hitch , there is some way to regulate the lifting poewr in this ?
Awesome video the John Deere closed center hydraulic system is a animal of its own kind but when you understand how it works it's not that complicated it's basically like a household water system that returns the fluid it has to come to standby pressure. I have noticed that the 10 20 30 40 series don't like extended run time with orbital motors especially Charlynn gerotor motors the whole system and transmission case gets hot I would think that if the oil drained thru a case drain on the return and it had another oil cooler would make a huge difference the one farmer I work goes thru a main pump every summer using a Vermeer hydraulic drive bar rake I told him I could build him a standalone pto drive hydraulic system just for the rake.Keep up the great videos Jon
Very good information on how to be better at running the tractor. Still doesn't answer the question of why my hydra cushion seat keeps heading for the roof.
Good afternoon Jon I replace the main pump and trans pump replace all the power steering seals also replace the filter bypass valve assembly the steering works three point works but after a 20 minutes test run all stops when that happens i start hearing a grinding noise under the cover over the trans i"m wondering if the clutch disc is going bad for the shaft the goes the trans pump and is that a diflicult repair
The transmission pump is driven off of the back of the top shaft If the tractor can drive than your clutch is good. But the little key way that the pump slides into could be bad you would have to pull your three-point housing off and check that When you replaced that transmission pump did you double check top shaft end play
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 no sir Its just when you start it up for the first time in the morning all works good for about 20 minutes then it fades away
I have a John Deere 1040 Y.1981 The pressure on my hydraulics has become worse/weaker (lots of periodic stutter at the rear when it needs to be lifted and and much weaker lift on the load at front after a little use) and worse with time while my clutch has deteriorated (and now needs to be replaced as it no longer works) Also experience that the apparatus at the rear falls down when I use the load apparatus in front. Could this be something that comes from the clutch being defective? (the clutch pedal is adjusted to max to work a little) Also when the rear apparatus in on the ground I cant lift the front -some times it lifts very slow and much faster if I lift the rear before lifting the front. Any hints for this? :)
@user-xg4cq6vm7l on them models you can have leaks inside the transmission in some of the plumbing. Or you can have leaks on the 3-point valve housing or your remote Outlets
Iv been watching your videos Since you cleaned the rock trap out on the 8820. I know you was building a shop but did you start your own repair business I must of missed that Video. How did I miss that?
Good afternoon, Jo you have given me some good information. I have a John Deere 4000 I bought. to restore changed the radiator and new main HYD pump changed all of the lubricant and filters and screen got it up and running. drove it around the pasture and lost all hyd steering, brakes, and three point. check the screen in the the trans and clear. I loosen the line to main hyd pump very little oil coming out I'm thinking maybe the trans pump is not pumping when it gets hot. You have any suggestion.
4000 would be Synchro transmission only and that pump is underneath the three-point housing on the back end of the top shaft. If you have no oil or very little oil coming out of that pipe on the left hand side then something could have happened to the pump or the plumbing around the pump. Lift off the three-point and you'll see the pump right there and the suction and discharge tubes
I put a destroke valve in the pump up front and it work and the hydraulics work great for about 20 minutes and the lost the hydraulics again any ideals
@@jerryvaughn7523 if you change the stroke control valve in the palm and everything worked good and then quit working, I would be suspicious that something contaminated that valve or you've got other problems
It seems that im not get oil to the front pump is there a place that i can put a gauge to check the pump in side the trans @@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754
I just bought a 4020 also and I was kind of worried about it cuz I heard this sound at the back of the motor so before I bought it I investigated more and it sounds like it's coming from underneath the dash when I use the 3-point hitch it quietens down or goes away for a second then it comes back I don't know if it's sound coming from somewhere else traveling through the line I thought it was valve noise from the motor but it is not I used a stethoscope... the sound reminds me of air compressor on a semi building up or chattery
I have never experienced the 3010 running out of loader function after years of unloading and stacking thousands of round bales. Im going to try to make it happen next time i drive it.
This explanation sounds good but my 570p JD tractor power steering is very hard to turn and takes a long time to lift the plough. The is an unusual noise when igling. Plz advise.
@chrisnzeleni5131 open center . Do a pressure test at the outlets. I am not familiar with that tractor. But open center should have a relief valve, pump could be good but a bad relief will make them weak
On the front engine pulley there is an aluminum clamp, take that apart and chances are the rubber bushings are gone. Also make sure that shaft is tight on the pump shaft, If it's still loud while just sitting there we would need to dig into it
Hello Jon, I’ve watched a few of your videos trying to figure out my 3 point and I can’t quite find the answer. I have a 2750 and as soon as the tractor is turned on the 3 point raises. The only way to get it back down is to wait a day or two till it settles. Any advice?
The very first thing I would check would be to make sure the linkage is moving the lever back at the valve. After that I would unhook the linkage and do you feel the lever try and pushback against you? AfterAfter that the valve is probably coming off for inspection
Since it's not lowering I would expect something to be broke inside the valve housing where the lever moves stuff? Could try moving the load / draft lever to a different position and see what it does
Hello Jon. Should my arms creep down on my 4055? It sometimes seems to be where the lever is set as sometimes it will keep them up and other times they go down over night. Also how good are you with electrics? I’ve lost illumination for my dash and have no warning lights other than the charging light and no fuel or temp guage and if I put sidelights on without key it brings the digit’s up on the right hand dash but no needle for temp guage?
Arms creep down over a couple days isn't the worst. Technically they shouldn't creep at all, but. Tractors are 40 years old, could be several problems in the dash, maybe pick 1 problem and see where that goes? If many problems sometimes it's a ground issue, you have a ground from each battery to the battery and then you have a ground at the oil filter and then you have a ground under the hood on top of the air cleaner box
Ah. Yes I’ve checked a lot of the grounds and had a guy come look from John Deere he thought it’s the right hand dash causing the issue there’s a guy up the road with same tractor I could try his dash in mine. Another guy said if there’s been a spike in voltage the dash can start to shut down? Have you heard of this?
I would believe it, have not seen it. So far knock on wood we haven't had really any Dash problems with the 50 or 55 series yet. I wonder if AG Express can fix it
Hi John I just bought a 2020 and I'm having some chatter also. I noticed that the remote is leaking and the pump gets noisy when I make the remote leaver. Is that all caused from the leak.
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Good morning Jon. Thank you so much for responding to me im a young hay farmer doing all this on my own while work a 40hr week. I will check today after work and get back to you. Thanks again
Hi Jon yes the arms are drifting down and I can see oil pumping back in through the hydraulic fill hole. I want to say again thank you for your time I know your time is valuable and I appreciate it.
I have a 4430 that won't turn to the left after you start it. you turn the wheel left & wait til it turns all the way then it will work as long as you are steering it driving straight you will have to stop & Cycle it every so often.what is the problem?
It is usually not a problem with the steering valve but an issue with the steering motor rack piston orings on each end of the pistons. One or more may be damaged and the steering valve can't trap that oil to hold the rack pistons in place so the result is you turn the steering wheel to try and correct the front wheels from wondering. I have done quite a number of these with the identical symptoms, same problem every time.@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754
@@rodwilk834 yep good point you could have a leak up front. On the early steering we just cap off the lines. If the steering wheel locks then you know it's up front
Hello John. Do you know if I can use the plug to the right of my top link bracket for a free flow return. It’s under the 2nd spool on my 4055. I think there’s a return from the trailer brake already on there. Also would I get air cavitation in the oil? I’ve seen some footings with a deflector inside so the oil runs down inside of the casing.
Yes you can use that as a zero pressure return. But you would use it for like a case drain not returning a motor. If you return a motor there will absolutely get cavitation
Ideally you would get a power beyond kit and put on your left hand Outlet and a needle valve to regulate the flow that way your fan is getting the oil it needs but you still have an outlet open and there will be less heating of the oil can go into the SCV coupler itself, on the side of the hydraulic coupler is a 1 in cap you can take that off and put a fitting there, or you can get a ported filter cover and return there
@@danielallerton1805 oh crap now I would have to go to the book because yes on your tractor you have that return manifold on the top left side of the transmission case.
Yeah, later models had a little gear pump down there. Early models had a big housing. Either find an old school guy or there is an aftermarket kit that is similar money to rebuilding yours and its an updated system
Jon i got a question for you!? I have a 4520 that if you hold the clutch down for a little bit then i loose hyd steering, pop it in neutral and sit for a minute then it comes right back. What could this be?
Perfectly normal. Syncro transmission has the transmission pump on the back of the topshaft of the transmission, when you push the clutch in the topshaft stops spinning so you can shift but it stops the pump, there is a reservoir up front to buy you some time.
Nothing is broke, if you have a loader or impliment you are running for a moment stationary then click to neutral and let clutch out. I guess you could see if there is room by the radiator to take out stock reservoir and make a bigger one?. One thing to check is for any high pressure leaks, scv's, 3pt, steering, brakes, if they have leaks it uses up the oil quicker.
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 right just like you said in the video, brakes work good, steering works good until you hold the clutch in to long, it could be the hyd I'm guessing!? Thanks for the help Jon!!!
It's normal. Kind of a dumb system but return oil from a cylinder goes to charge circuit (feed main pump) so if just pushing in the clutch to lift and dump loader there should be enough oil, The worst is if you have to tow the machine put it in tow or it will smoke the topshaft.
I got a 4010 and can't get midrange most time's. It's not the linkage adjustment cause I can turn the pto on and sometimes get 5th gear but if I take it out of midrange you can't get it again most time but if pto is on and you idle it up then back down it might go into midrange again. What's your idea on this?
Ok, so 3rd,5th,7th and 8th are the same gear on the top shaft, 1st,2nd,4th and 6th are also the same gear on the top shaft. When you slide down the left side you are changing ranges
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 any idea why it won't lock into 2nd 5th and 2nd reverse? When I put it in either these gears and let out the clutch it won't engage them speeds
@@jimmyjaco5759 does it grind when you let the clutch out? More than likely the shift quadrant or the steel pieces that move with the lever are getting sloppy?
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 given the fact that they used the same pump on so many different machines, maybe $5 each.. so they saved a couple million dollars and made people pay for it anyway..
Research the main hydraulic pump please! Your valves in it are wore out. Historically your pump pressure is too high. Your transmission light should be on and change your transmission oil filter between tear downs!
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 that’s what that light on the dash is! Replace the bulb even. If you don’t know the system, you’re misleading people. The main pump is worn is highest probability. My dad would jack the pump pressure, it would do the same.
Ok. First of all I am explaining how a healthy tractor can still have a chattering 3-point upon startup. The light on the dash is for transmission pump pressure. And that light should never be on I am not misleading anybody
Great video Jon!! Only tractor I have the chatter on is my 4240 and it's only when I start it after many days of not running and when I start it the first time and the arms have leaked down. It takes many days of not running for them to leak down. I'm not going to worry about it for now but I think I'll start putting the lever down before I start it if arms are down let it run a while then raise them from now on. Thanks and take care man!!
Awesome explanation on how the hydraulic system on those work.👍
Our 8440 leaks down after sitting for a few hours. When we start it up, it chatters until it's fully up.
I'll have to check the coupler remotes for high heat to start. We pull a 36' cultivator with a harrow behind it. Seems slow when lifting wings or the main lifting cylinder.
Another note is that there are unusually small lines that extend to the wing cylinders.
Great information to look at. Thanks for the video Jon. 💪🔧🚜
If 3pt drops in several hrs, there is a plug below the right outlet on the transmission case, pull that plug and with the tractor running, and see if oil is spraying in there.
Check pressure at outlets.
Great video,Jon!
Your advices have helped me alot with the diagnose of my John Deere 3040.
My tractor s differential section needs to be opened...
Best wishes to you and your family!
Thanks, good luck this spring.
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Hello. i ve got a 4230 , and i have a very low lifting poewr to 3 point hitch , there is some way to regulate the lifting poewr in this ?
Put a 3000 psi gauge in an outlet and see what the pressure is when you pull the lever of that outlet. 2250 would be ideal
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 thanks for response!
Awesome video the John Deere closed center hydraulic system is a animal of its own kind but when you understand how it works it's not that complicated it's basically like a household water system that returns the fluid it has to come to standby pressure. I have noticed that the 10 20 30 40 series don't like extended run time with orbital motors especially Charlynn gerotor motors the whole system and transmission case gets hot I would think that if the oil drained thru a case drain on the return and it had another oil cooler would make a huge difference the one farmer I work goes thru a main pump every summer using a Vermeer hydraulic drive bar rake I told him I could build him a standalone pto drive hydraulic system just for the rake.Keep up the great videos Jon
Great video, and explanation of hydrallic operations of front and rear hydraulic pumps.
Love the start of the video! Little A is supper cool!
Great video Jon! I enjoy these!!
Thank you
Thanks for the help
Thanks for the video. If you happen to be setting valves on a 20/30 series sometime, it would be great to see a video on that.
I will be rebuilding the 4430 this summer, many videos on that.
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 glad to hear! Planning to rebuild my 4430 next winter lol
Damn I wish I knew this sooner. Our 6150 did this since it was new. I wondered why, now I know.
Buenisimo el video gracias por compartir todo tu conocimiento saludos.
Thanks for stopping by
Very good information on how to be better at running the tractor. Still doesn't answer the question of why my hydra cushion seat keeps heading for the roof.
It goes to the top and stays at the top? No suspension to it?
Thanks for sharing Jon! Great information.
Anytime. Thanks for watching
Informative video Jon! Different question for you, how did you guys fair through all these storms?
Good afternoon Jon
I replace the main pump and trans pump replace all the power steering seals also replace the filter bypass valve assembly
the steering works three point works but after a 20 minutes test run all stops
when that happens i start hearing a grinding noise under the cover over the trans i"m wondering if the clutch disc is going bad for the shaft the goes the trans pump and is that a diflicult repair
What tractor
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 4000 John Deere
The transmission pump is driven off of the back of the top shaft
If the tractor can drive than your clutch is good. But the little key way that the pump slides into could be bad you would have to pull your three-point housing off and check that
When you replaced that transmission pump did you double check top shaft end play
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 no sir Its just when you start it up for the first time in the morning all works good for about 20 minutes then it fades away
I have a John Deere 1040 Y.1981
The pressure on my hydraulics has become worse/weaker (lots of periodic stutter at the rear when it needs to be lifted and and much weaker lift on the load at front after a little use) and worse with time while my clutch has deteriorated (and now needs to be replaced as it no longer works) Also experience that the apparatus at the rear falls down when I use the load apparatus in front. Could this be something that comes from the clutch being defective? (the clutch pedal is adjusted to max to work a little) Also when the rear apparatus in on the ground I cant lift the front -some times it lifts very slow and much faster if I lift the rear before lifting the front.
Any hints for this? :)
Is that one of them compact tractors? I don't know them.
Great video explaining!
Hi I have a 3150 John Deere with chader in the hydraulic what do you think it has a loader if I keep the rpm at 15 16 hundred it's not as bad
@user-xg4cq6vm7l on them models you can have leaks inside the transmission in some of the plumbing. Or you can have leaks on the 3-point valve housing or your remote Outlets
Iv been watching your videos Since you cleaned the rock trap out on the 8820. I know you was building a shop but did you start your own repair business I must of missed that Video. How did I miss that?
The business has been here 27 years.
Thanks for following along. It means a lot to me.
Really good video Jon. Lots of good information there. I hope you're not too wet down there.
Thanks.
We have had lots of hail and rain.
How about you guys?
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 2.6 inches of rain and some wind but not bad compared to what some areas had.
we had almost 5 inches in 2 days. have to be close to 10 inches for the month.
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Wow.
Good afternoon, Jo you have given me some good information.
I have a John Deere 4000 I bought. to restore changed the radiator and new main HYD pump changed all of the lubricant and filters and screen got it up and running. drove it around the pasture and lost all hyd steering, brakes, and three point. check the screen in the the trans and clear. I loosen the line to main hyd pump very little oil coming out I'm thinking maybe the trans pump is not pumping when it gets hot. You have any suggestion.
4000 would be Synchro transmission only and that pump is underneath the three-point housing on the back end of the top shaft.
If you have no oil or very little oil coming out of that pipe on the left hand side then something could have happened to the pump or the plumbing around the pump. Lift off the three-point and you'll see the pump right there and the suction and discharge tubes
I put a destroke valve in the pump up front and it work and the hydraulics work great for about 20 minutes and the lost the hydraulics again any ideals
You spoke of hot spots and the steering box is pretty warm than any thing else
@@jerryvaughn7523 if you change the stroke control valve in the palm and everything worked good and then quit working, I would be suspicious that something contaminated that valve or you've got other problems
It seems that im not get oil to the front pump is there a place that i can put a gauge to check the pump in side the trans @@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754
I just bought a 4020 also and I was kind of worried about it cuz I heard this sound at the back of the motor so before I bought it I investigated more and it sounds like it's coming from underneath the dash when I use the 3-point hitch it quietens down or goes away for a second then it comes back I don't know if it's sound coming from somewhere else traveling through the line I thought it was valve noise from the motor but it is not I used a stethoscope... the sound reminds me of air compressor on a semi building up or chattery
On a 40-20 noise under the dash could be hydraulic leaking through the steering valve
I have never experienced the 3010 running out of loader function after years of unloading and stacking thousands of round bales. Im going to try to make it happen next time i drive it.
Just hold the clutch pedal down and raise and lower the three-point a few times and you'll see it
This explanation sounds good but my 570p JD tractor power steering is very hard to turn and takes a long time to lift the plough. The is an unusual noise when igling. Plz advise.
What is a 570P tractor?
I wanted to indicate 5700 JD tractor. How does one ditect failure of hydraulic pump?
@chrisnzeleni5131 open center . Do a pressure test at the outlets.
I am not familiar with that tractor. But open center should have a relief valve, pump could be good but a bad relief will make them weak
Why are 4010 hydraulic pumps so loud!
My neighbor just got a mystery $5k 4010 diesel and the hydraulic pump is so loud you can’t hear the engine.
On the front engine pulley there is an aluminum clamp, take that apart and chances are the rubber bushings are gone.
Also make sure that shaft is tight on the pump shaft,
If it's still loud while just sitting there we would need to dig into it
Thank You very much sir. Very informative.
Hello Jon, I’ve watched a few of your videos trying to figure out my 3 point and I can’t quite find the answer. I have a 2750 and as soon as the tractor is turned on the 3 point raises. The only way to get it back down is to wait a day or two till it settles. Any advice?
The very first thing I would check would be to make sure the linkage is moving the lever back at the valve. After that I would unhook the linkage and do you feel the lever try and pushback against you?
AfterAfter that the valve is probably coming off for inspection
The linkages all look good and move as they should. If I take the valve off what would you suggest inspecting at that point?
Since it's not lowering I would expect something to be broke inside the valve housing where the lever moves stuff?
Could try moving the load / draft lever to a different position and see what it does
Hello Jon. Should my arms creep down on my 4055? It sometimes seems to be where the lever is set as sometimes it will keep them up and other times they go down over night. Also how good are you with electrics? I’ve lost illumination for my dash and have no warning lights other than the charging light and no fuel or temp guage and if I put sidelights on without key it brings the digit’s up on the right hand dash but no needle for temp guage?
Arms creep down over a couple days isn't the worst. Technically they shouldn't creep at all, but.
Tractors are 40 years old, could be several problems in the dash, maybe pick 1 problem and see where that goes?
If many problems sometimes it's a ground issue, you have a ground from each battery to the battery and then you have a ground at the oil filter and then you have a ground under the hood on top of the air cleaner box
Ah. Yes I’ve checked a lot of the grounds and had a guy come look from John Deere he thought it’s the right hand dash causing the issue there’s a guy up the road with same tractor I could try his dash in mine. Another guy said if there’s been a spike in voltage the dash can start to shut down? Have you heard of this?
I would believe it, have not seen it. So far knock on wood we haven't had really any Dash problems with the 50 or 55 series yet. I wonder if AG Express can fix it
Hi John I just bought a 2020 and I'm having some chatter also. I noticed that the remote is leaking and the pump gets noisy when I make the remote leaver. Is that all caused from the leak.
If you take the oil fill cap off can you hear or see oil spraying? Does 3 pt settle overnight?
Might have several things going on
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754
Good morning Jon. Thank you so much for responding to me im a young hay farmer doing all this on my own while work a 40hr week. I will check today after work and get back to you. Thanks again
Hi Jon yes the arms are drifting down and I can see oil pumping back in through the hydraulic fill hole. I want to say again thank you for your time I know your time is valuable and I appreciate it.
Time to pull that three-point off and rebuild them valves with new guides and needles
Ok thank you very much.
I have a 4430 that won't turn to the left after you start it. you turn the wheel left & wait til it turns all the way then it will work as long as you are steering it driving straight you will have to stop & Cycle it every so often.what is the problem?
I bet you have a very early model that has a 20 series steering valve. Could be something as simple as the valve tolerance in there
It is usually not a problem with the steering valve but an issue with the steering motor rack piston orings on each end of the pistons. One or more may be damaged and the steering valve can't trap that oil to hold the rack pistons in place so the result is you turn the steering wheel to try and correct the front wheels from wondering. I have done quite a number of these with the identical symptoms, same problem every time.@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754
@@rodwilk834 yep good point you could have a leak up front. On the early steering we just cap off the lines. If the steering wheel locks then you know it's up front
Hello John. Do you know if I can use the plug to the right of my top link bracket for a free flow return. It’s under the 2nd spool on my 4055. I think there’s a return from the trailer brake already on there. Also would I get air cavitation in the oil? I’ve seen some footings with a deflector inside so the oil runs down inside of the casing.
Yes you can use that as a zero pressure return.
But you would use it for like a case drain not returning a motor. If you return a motor there will absolutely get cavitation
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 is there another port on them for a return like from a hydraulic fan?
Ideally you would get a power beyond kit and put on your left hand Outlet and a needle valve to regulate the flow that way your fan is getting the oil it needs but you still have an outlet open and there will be less heating of the oil
can go into the SCV coupler itself, on the side of the hydraulic coupler is a 1 in cap you can take that off and put a fitting there, or you can get a ported filter cover and return there
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 hello. What about the return manifold? There’s a bung on that?
@@danielallerton1805 oh crap now I would have to go to the book because yes on your tractor you have that return manifold on the top left side of the transmission case.
it is an early model. is that the valve under the dash?
Yeah, later models had a little gear pump down there. Early models had a big housing. Either find an old school guy or there is an aftermarket kit that is similar money to rebuilding yours and its an updated system
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Thanks a lot for the info!
Jon i got a question for you!? I have a 4520 that if you hold the clutch down for a little bit then i loose hyd steering, pop it in neutral and sit for a minute then it comes right back. What could this be?
Perfectly normal.
Syncro transmission has the transmission pump on the back of the topshaft of the transmission, when you push the clutch in the topshaft stops spinning so you can shift but it stops the pump, there is a reservoir up front to buy you some time.
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 is their a fix for this ?
Nothing is broke, if you have a loader or impliment you are running for a moment stationary then click to neutral and let clutch out.
I guess you could see if there is room by the radiator to take out stock reservoir and make a bigger one?.
One thing to check is for any high pressure leaks, scv's, 3pt, steering, brakes, if they have leaks it uses up the oil quicker.
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 right just like you said in the video, brakes work good, steering works good until you hold the clutch in to long, it could be the hyd I'm guessing!? Thanks for the help Jon!!!
It's normal. Kind of a dumb system but return oil from a cylinder goes to charge circuit (feed main pump) so if just pushing in the clutch to lift and dump loader there should be enough oil,
The worst is if you have to tow the machine put it in tow or it will smoke the topshaft.
I got a 4010 and can't get midrange most time's. It's not the linkage adjustment cause I can turn the pto on and sometimes get 5th gear but if I take it out of midrange you can't get it again most time but if pto is on and you idle it up then back down it might go into midrange again. What's your idea on this?
I don't understand what you're saying by mid-range
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 2nd 5th and 2nd reverse
Ok, so 3rd,5th,7th and 8th are the same gear on the top shaft, 1st,2nd,4th and 6th are also the same gear on the top shaft.
When you slide down the left side you are changing ranges
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 any idea why it won't lock into 2nd 5th and 2nd reverse? When I put it in either these gears and let out the clutch it won't engage them speeds
@@jimmyjaco5759 does it grind when you let the clutch out? More than likely the shift quadrant or the steel pieces that move with the lever are getting sloppy?
Very interesting
👍👍
Makes sense.. yet doesn't make sense they short it.. but..
It does not. How much more would it have really costed to put in a bigger pump?
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 given the fact that they used the same pump on so many different machines, maybe $5 each.. so they saved a couple million dollars and made people pay for it anyway..
Research the main hydraulic pump please! Your valves in it are wore out. Historically your pump pressure is too high. Your transmission light should be on and change your transmission oil filter between tear downs!
Can you explain your comment more.
Pump pressure to high?
Why should transmission light be on?
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 that’s what that light on the dash is! Replace the bulb even. If you don’t know the system, you’re misleading people. The main pump is worn is highest probability. My dad would jack the pump pressure, it would do the same.
Ok. First of all I am explaining how a healthy tractor can still have a chattering 3-point upon startup.
The light on the dash is for transmission pump pressure. And that light should never be on
I am not misleading anybody
Either you live for tearing apart older Deere tractors, or that's your sideline job?
Side job. Farm has to come first