Imagine you told your teacher: "I have problems with Algebra" and your teacher says "Well you have problems with Algebra because you didn't learn Algebra"
Let's go even further, your teacher will try to teach you functions while he has problems with algebra. No way DigitalHypno who passed Honesty with C rank and 78% acc was giving tapping advices to BTMC
im really glad i never watched any guides or tutorial videos when i started playing. I think doing so might have clouded what would be an otherwise comfortable playing style for me personally. Don't compare yourself to others as comparison is the thief of happiness. For me the best key to improving was just having fun playing the game and not taking it so seriously.
fr osu in its simplicity is to tap a circle to its beat. i watched many guiding videos, and the only benefit i got from them was being directed to really good collections of maps that were enjoyable to play.
@@heheimtrahs i watched vids for beatmaps as well, but progression vids can have an unhealthy impact on the way you view your own improvement for some. Compare yourself too much to others and you will get depressed (in my case not saying this is how it is for everyone)
Coaching is the greatest, despite what you think. I once had a coach tell me that my skill issue was due to an issue with my skill level and playing ability and it was honestly eye opening
My mindset is you get better at what you play so I just play what’s fun. It’s gotten to the point tho where I can semi-comfortably pass 7* tech maps but not a 5* stream ones 💀
"if you want to be a top player in osu! Be the top player" - digitalhypno probably (jokes aside just play more and have fun in osu!game if you want to improve)
I feel like this is just a result of the fact that just because someone is good at something doesn't necessarily mean that they understand the factors that led to them getting good
I struggle with aim alot, it grew me into this kind of player that can consistently tap almost every sub 290bpm stream but cannot aim simple 5-6 maps consistently. I remembering stumbling upon my currently favorite by far DigitalHypno video saying what to do if aim is your worst skill, the purpose of the video which was about a minute long was: "What to do if my worst skill is aim?" "Just play auto cause it's not your aim thats your worst skill you are not tapping right". Ironically speaking the fact about osu! improvement that everyone gets mad when you tell them (Just play more) is the best way to improve as a player
Cool bro profile pls i wanna see some "sub 290bpm" gameplay, if you can't aim 5-6 then probably six digit and 6 digit with 290 is kinda rare so i wanna see
@@R1L1. Not a 6 digit. Im 40k ish. And i can aim higher sr maps I just lack aim control and consistency in terms of aim. Pen grip is uncomfortable and just in general and miles ahead in stamina and speed rather than aim
honestly really happy you made this video, ive been playing and slowly getting better but i felt like i was tapping wrong or not playing the right maps. this made me feel a lot better and want to just grind the game more playing it my way. great video!
Once a chronic Jump map farmer, learned to stream in 4 months after the rework hit. Was actually so dog at streams, tech finger control. Just yesterday I hit my new top play for 359pp on a stream map. Point being that you just got to put the time in to learn that skill you lack. I literally went on osu collector, typed in stream training and downloaded a bunch of maps of various difficulties and worked my way up each one. No coach needed
A lot of osu and honestly gaming in general is very obvious on how you should improve. Obviously there is certain things that can change your perspective and unlock a bit of improvment, like when playing a tactical shooter looking at the maps or positioning in a new way. But the reason the coaching market is still there though is people don't want to believe that just playing more is the best option, in that doc the person was just being told "play more" in a million different ways without actually being told that. There is no shortcut but people want to believe there is so they get a coach even though its very obvious what they should be doing to improve.
osu! coaching really is a complete scam. Top osu! players never had coaching to get to where they are today you wanna know what they did they played the game more, people really want to believe that there is some SECRET to improvement in osu!, but the game really is just to play the damn game more. Vaxei never got coaching, mrekk never got coaching, whitecat never got coaching, cookiezi never got coaching all these insanely good players got to where they are today by playing the damn game more. They started somewhere as well, They never magically got the skill they have today. All of them played more, they pushed their limits and focused on skills they want to get better at. All you need to know when you start playing is how the game works and then you just play more.
Thank God osu coaching is getting exposure of being a scam, paying 50/hr for someone to tell u how to click circles is the dumbest thing, osu is the most simple game ever its just aim then tap circle nothing else
As far as coaching goes, I've never been coached and never want to be. When I was learning how to play, I just played to learn. The only time I watched videos hoping to get better was Spare's stream guide, but that's it. By the way, it did help a bit. It pushed me to practice lower BPMs, which in my case, was a good start. Though the thing that ultimately made me better at streaming was actually switching to ring/index which was so much more comfortable to play for me. Either way, don't buy coaching. Analyze your replays and find the problem yourself, which is not as hard as people make it out to be, and find a RUclips video from a reputable player that pertains to your issue. On top of that, don't be scared to experiment. Maybe you'll find a playstyle that you play much better with
Bro what you said actually remembered what I was doing to improve during the firsts 3 months. I started grinding without whining at myself again, thank you
The only hard part about improving, besides actually playing the game, is finding maps that cover your weaknesses and are also appropriate for your skill level. But even that has only gotten easier
Play more is just a false promise. It's the idea that as long as you consistently play and challenge yourself that you will get better. While this might be true for the some players, I personally I have put 1.4k hours into this game in little over a year and don't see nearly the kind of improvement others do, I'm legit still 6 digit. This idea that everyone can achieve whatever they want as long as they spend enough time doing it is just false and people don't want to face the reality. Every day I try to play harder maps, work on my weaknesses ect. and it's just not moving at any kind of decent pace. The fact is that if this was something everyone could do we would all be mrekks and that's just not happening. So instead of bitching only to have the same line thrown at you day in and day out, just try to enjoy the game and accept that you might not have what it takes to make it to the top. Keep pushing and trying to improve, sure, but accept your pace and realize there is literally nothing you can do about it if you're simply just not cut out to stand out.
I’ve been pushing skill cap for weeks now and today I didn’t have any stamina so I just played DT farm and went from rank 113k to 99k in about 4 hours crazy how playing more makes you better and how you don’t need to just play 5 stars to get good at 5 stars
listen ,,,, there was a month long period of time like 6 months? ago where i would exclusively watch content centered around improving osu. i have fr probably watched or read every osu improvement guide on the internet & i can confidently say that the ONLY thing that has actually helped me improve was playing more and consistently pushing my skill ceiling. 2 months ago i couldn't stream 165 for more than 9 notes and now i can pretty comfortably pass some 5+ minute burst / stream heavy maps up to like 210. if these people spent as much time actually playing the game and pushing themselves as they did worrying about stuff like coaching & auto method i feel like there'd be a lot more players satisfied with their rate of improvement. also PLEASE, for the love of god, stop caring so much about rank. my enjoyment with this game increased tenfold when i finally let myself stop caring about an arbitrary number & started setting goals that mattered to ME and started playing stuff that was cool and fun to ME. the ranks will come as you improve, you will improve as you play more. learn to find enjoyment in even the smallest glimpses of improvement. even if i get 64% acc and 250x misses on a map, if my previous best was 63% acc and 251x misses - i'm happy because i'm better than i used to be, and that's gotta count for something. tldr: play more, revel in even the smallest of improvements, and stop comparing your arbitrary number to other peoples' arbitrary numbers. you'll get there one day. :)
I haven't been properly coached before but I talk to alot of people for advice and am in quite a few coaching type servers and they have helped me a lot. I feel if I didn't take a lot of the advice I had gotten through methods like guides or other players semi coaching me then I would be way behind where I am. I do admit some times coaching is a waste of time like the examples in the start of this video tho lol. I do 100% agree that osu is a play more type of deal
I never expected that from hypno, 50/hr is just stupidly expensive, especially for a game like osu, and i know that he has to make money somehow, but like come on, charging Ed 300$ ?
I feel like hypno and fancylad are just scammers, never seen them do anything worth a while besides 6 digit farming clickbait vids on yt or the coaching that does nothing
"You don't expect somone to babysitting you for osu." Man I glad that i finally get it on the way of getting out 6 digits, i glad that osu coaching was not a thing back then i was 6 digits and learning how to stream. Hell i even got 400pp and top 50k because of that 48 retries on sidetracked day.
Man I choked sidetracked day when I was 60k it was 4k pp in pretty sure at that time but got first 300 with it and I still can’t fc it lol even 2 years later just cursed song played without sound recently and almost fced but died on the last stream
i've been saying this for so long... The game is simple af, and yet people still want the easy way out and telling them what to do, these kind of people have been spoonfed their entire lives
7:20 there's a 3 digit on #osu that keeps repeating the same thing "consistency ain't a skill" and is adamant about it and will correct people on every skill-based statement they talk about there, don't remember their username tho
hey Zylice, I have 1053 hours and started Jul 2020, but seem to be skillcapped on 220 bpm streams. I've put in many, and MANY hours into grinding it, but I just can't seem to improve on speed, only stamina. have you had these instances? if so, what did you do to overcome it? just played more? or did you try changing up your technique and whatnot?
I think it's important to just do it at your own pace and have fun in the process. I watched a video on stamina improvement where it was the "KHZ method," at first I was excited but it became really boring as time goes on. Went to improve my own, luckily it has worked cause now I can finally stream 200.
My friend told me not to play too difficult maps and I took it a bit seriously and never played maps harder than 3* for like three months and when I said screw it and started playing harder maps than 3* I got into 5* in like a month
@Pulzanicus pulzanic sorry shouldve expressed myself better. Yea I was only farming maps 3* and I'm talking about passing a few 5* farm maps. Seriously tho stream maps are very fun to play imo
Coaching really only makes sense when you're low ranked and you need someone to explain some concepts to you that the game doesn't teach you. It's not even coaching, just small bits of knowledge and tricks I've learned over the years: Example: What is AR and OD How Star rating works and how it scales with pp How HR and DT alter the difficulty and pp How notelock works and how it relates to OD and a little bit of AR How to make a practice diff How to train speed or aim How to push your limits How to know when you're overstreaming or understreaming and how to account for it. Getting more maps. And much more All of these I taught to a friend. Safe to say he's a mid 5 digit now and there's hardly anything else new I can teach him to improve besides Play More. When you don't have anyone to teach you these things I can see why someone would resort to a coach. Even though you can just have a higher ranked friend explain all of these for free
it's funny cause if you cared enough about the game you would have figured most of what hypno says on your own. If you're buying coaching it shows you don't care enough about the game to figure stuff out and want to be spoonfed, and you will very likely not become a top player anyway
same thing with santa69 (well he got banned for being 'suspicious' a few months ago) but he got to 3 digit within one year by extreme retry spamming as well though there was another 3 digit in 1 year dude who somehow did it without insane playtime, i have no idea how he did that (unfortunately can't remember his name and don't wanna go through my friends list...kinda long lmao)
I dont think think osu coaching is any more of a scam than coaching for other things like tutoring or physical fitness. The coaches themselves have more insight and guide you for improvement. I wont argue that theyre providing anything new thats not already out there. But they provide you with the general direction and training maps rather than the usual “play more” and getting recommended either 2 star or 10 star jump/stream maps for practice
Coaching is only useful if you dont care about the game enough to know what bad habits you are developing. If you don't care about the game enough you won't even reach top skill at all, so coaching is just useless at that point.
I dont know much about osu but i still think Coaching can be helpful there are probably many Players who dont See their mistakes or the weakness causing that. So as a coach you can bring them to a conclusion maybe with a map Pool which focuses on their weakness. Ofc Just saying your aim sucks is not ok If you Take money for it. Never played osu but seen similar things in csgo, valorant, starcraft, world of warcraft and league.
@@emanuelsoto8766 50 for the work he has done is scummy but 50 for well fleshed out training plan with set goals and a way to get there i think would be legit, depends on how fleshed out it is.
What advice is possibly useful that you dont achieve on your own ? osu! is a purely mechanical game where you literally know everything there is to know but just braindead playing the game. i understand coaching for a game like Valorant where tactics and decision making that actually come into play on coaching because you literally can teach that aspect quite literally. But osu! has none of that. You just got finessed if you played for osu! coaching
Before I listened to one of the coaching sessions, I thought Habib actually knows about getting better at osu. After listening in, I realized he's completely bullshit. LoL
Wtf…this guy is rank 500 after 800 hours? I started 5 months ago, I have 600 hours and I’m 220k…it’s so frustrating because I feel like my improvement is the slowest you can possibly have. I play so many different types of maps (streams, tech, jumps, fingercontrol, also farm) and I mostly play 6 or 7 stars instead of 5 stars but I’m still too inconsistent to easily fc 5 star maps I don’t fking get it. I’m so dedicated to this game and I’m having much fun but getting better is a big point of motivation for me but it just feels so damn hard :(
I just looked to your profile. What zylice is giving advice here is that go outside of your comfort zone by a little. You dont improve by going outside of your comfort zone too much. In my opinion you should work on 5* for now. Just because you have some fcs on 5* hyperfarm maps doesnt mean you are really good at them. Maybe if you are good at like not hyperfarm but farm i would say sure to playing 6* maps. But your only 5* fcs on maps that are either dt (which is really just simple patterns at 5*) or no mod hyperfarm
simply put: any top player rn is very likely to be both talented and put a ton of work into it. You can be a top player without talent but that requires so much more grind and dedication than a normal person would be willing to be put to. The best advice I got when I was frustrated over not improving (came from FlyingTuna when I dm'd him) is not thinking about this too much. The frustration over not improving and trying to overthink everything is worse than accepting what you're capable of. Play the game and have fun. You will get a breakthrough eventually.
@@kujubuo Ask my friend who's cracked at pretty much ANY game he plays (Global Elite at CSGO) but come to osu and he's astonishingly average. Ask him why isn't he 3 digit yet. If you think talent doesn't exist I'm sorry but that's just wrong. Ask why mrekk is so good. He'll tell you "Idk I just play the game". Ask sinatraa (#1 Overwatch Player) why he is so good at the game, he'll tell you the exact same thing. If you're expecting a very detailed answer from the best because they know how they got so good, they won't. You don't become the best with pure effort alone. Although you can come close of course. I respect your mindset of believing you got where you are because of your blood and sweat but denying talent exists is stupid. Because if it didn't everyone would improve at the same pace and the same way.
i mean osu is a game you just cant coach bc if u are misaiming the only thing u can say is hit it but i agree i am not as fast improving as spicy but i got 1k hours in a little over a year and im almost 4 digit so it pays off for me.
The different people improvment rate difference is too high. Do you really think that players who kept pushing their comfort zone for 800 hours like Sp1cyy and have like 30k rank is a rare case? I get 100pp after 70 hours of playing and 200pp after 340h (+ about 70h offline), and I am not retry spamming, not playing the same maps over and over, not sitting in my comfort zone, and I am only focused on improvement. So why there are so many people who have 400h and they are 4-digits? The only 2 answers are coming to head - genetics and you are doing something wrong. First variant is a deadend and lead to nothing, while second variant lead to coaching. I bought khz coaching 1 time, and there was many of info that I know before, but 1 thing was new and it was game changing. Before session a practiced streams for like 3 months and get almost 0 improvement. But khz said that I just to need relax my hand when streaming and it instantly increased my streaming skill. Before session i went from stable streaming 150bpm to stable streaming 155bpm in 3 months, and after i went from 155bpm to 170bpm in 1 month. Its may be rare case but it there In one video osu RUclipsrs laughing on people who blame genetics, in other videos RUclipsrs laughing on coaching. I think in that case the only answer to the people who get stuck in 6 digits for 500 hours and then for 1500 hours more they stuck in 5 digits the only solution is quit the game, right?
How about be more specific instead of just saying "play more" If i can become a top player playing 1 star maps a million times then shit dude imma start my grind lol
It's funny how a lot of people translate good osu! aim to good aim in FPS and stuff which makes sense. Even if 2D -> 3D isn't 1:1, the fundamental of good hand eye coordination and the "feeling" of the aim is there. In other words, people are experienced aimers. However, it somehow becomes a foreign idea when osu! players are told you need to PRACTICE a skill to improve. Very rarely is it a fundamental issue, but rather the attitude or mindset. Improvement becomes peripherals and coaching rather than gaining the experience and feeling of playing high BPM, stamina intensive, or large spacing maps. -Yours truly, a 6 digit shitter.
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thx for the shout out :D
Bro made it
Yessir
You're insane
Bro started playing Osu a month after me and has over double my playtime and pp
wish we all could get 800 hours and be as good as u dude
It's actually really ironic that the "play more" meme actually just works
its not even a meme its just a geniune advice
it wasn't a meme it was literally just the advice
nah its a real ass advice which applies to a lot of games
Is it a meme?
its not a meme its people who couldnt accept that it was real advice that turned it into a meme
Imagine you told your teacher: "I have problems with Algebra" and your teacher says "Well you have problems with Algebra because you didn't learn Algebra"
Let's go even further, your teacher will try to teach you functions while he has problems with algebra. No way DigitalHypno who passed Honesty with C rank and 78% acc was giving tapping advices to BTMC
@@Milkimetria Wait that happened???
"hey teach can you help me with these integrals, i dont get them"
"lmao just play more"
Being paid as an osu coach and telling the osu player to play more is like being a runner coach and simply telling the runner to run more
That's what track coaches do.
difference is it makes a difference for the runner lmao
thank god I don't do track anymore. Rock climbing>>
@@Spyziy so basically the osu one should've called score tracker
@@flicker6741 track like the sport
im really glad i never watched any guides or tutorial videos when i started playing. I think doing so might have clouded what would be an otherwise comfortable playing style for me personally. Don't compare yourself to others as comparison is the thief of happiness. For me the best key to improving was just having fun playing the game and not taking it so seriously.
fr osu in its simplicity is to tap a circle to its beat. i watched many guiding videos, and the only benefit i got from them was being directed to really good collections of maps that were enjoyable to play.
this is certified by me (me)
i watched progression vids and guides for good beatmaps 💀
@@heheimtrahs i watched vids for beatmaps as well, but progression vids can have an unhealthy impact on the way you view your own improvement for some. Compare yourself too much to others and you will get depressed (in my case not saying this is how it is for everyone)
Osu's just one of those games where only YOU can help yourself get better
Coaching is the greatest, despite what you think. I once had a coach tell me that my skill issue was due to an issue with my skill level and playing ability and it was honestly eye opening
My mindset is you get better at what you play so I just play what’s fun. It’s gotten to the point tho where I can semi-comfortably pass 7* tech maps but not a 5* stream ones 💀
"if you want to be a top player in osu! Be the top player" - digitalhypno probably (jokes aside just play more and have fun in osu!game if you want to improve)
I feel like this is just a result of the fact that just because someone is good at something doesn't necessarily mean that they understand the factors that led to them getting good
I struggle with aim alot, it grew me into this kind of player that can consistently tap almost every sub 290bpm stream but cannot aim simple 5-6 maps consistently. I remembering stumbling upon my currently favorite by far DigitalHypno video saying what to do if aim is your worst skill, the purpose of the video which was about a minute long was: "What to do if my worst skill is aim?" "Just play auto cause it's not your aim thats your worst skill you are not tapping right". Ironically speaking the fact about osu! improvement that everyone gets mad when you tell them (Just play more) is the best way to improve as a player
damn wheres your play on Words I never said + DT then 🙄must be easy for you right?
Most people that i know sucks at aim were the people that were good at tapping
Cool bro profile pls i wanna see some "sub 290bpm" gameplay, if you can't aim 5-6 then probably six digit and 6 digit with 290 is kinda rare so i wanna see
@@R1L1. classic case of osu players unable to believe somebody better at something exists
@@R1L1. Not a 6 digit. Im 40k ish. And i can aim higher sr maps I just lack aim control and consistency in terms of aim. Pen grip is uncomfortable and just in general and miles ahead in stamina and speed rather than aim
honestly really happy you made this video, ive been playing and slowly getting better but i felt like i was tapping wrong or not playing the right maps. this made me feel a lot better and want to just grind the game more playing it my way. great video!
Once a chronic Jump map farmer, learned to stream in 4 months after the rework hit. Was actually so dog at streams, tech finger control. Just yesterday I hit my new top play for 359pp on a stream map. Point being that you just got to put the time in to learn that skill you lack. I literally went on osu collector, typed in stream training and downloaded a bunch of maps of various difficulties and worked my way up each one. No coach needed
Do u have the map? Also trying to get better at stream hehe
love how osu drama is just coaching
maaan i can't bealieve i found the right technique after zylice mentioned his.
When you are not doing good on something, you are not doing good on something is how you could summarize this video.
since when owc leader needs a coach
A lot of osu and honestly gaming in general is very obvious on how you should improve. Obviously there is certain things that can change your perspective and unlock a bit of improvment, like when playing a tactical shooter looking at the maps or positioning in a new way. But the reason the coaching market is still there though is people don't want to believe that just playing more is the best option, in that doc the person was just being told "play more" in a million different ways without actually being told that. There is no shortcut but people want to believe there is so they get a coach even though its very obvious what they should be doing to improve.
i needed this video a lot sooner than I thought
osu! coaching really is a complete scam. Top osu! players never had coaching to get to where they are today you wanna know what they did they played the game more, people really want to believe that there is some SECRET to improvement in osu!, but the game really is just to play the damn game more. Vaxei never got coaching, mrekk never got coaching, whitecat never got coaching, cookiezi never got coaching all these insanely good players got to where they are today by playing the damn game more. They started somewhere as well, They never magically got the skill they have today. All of them played more, they pushed their limits and focused on skills they want to get better at. All you need to know when you start playing is how the game works and then you just play more.
This entire video can be summarized by the "OfCourse" twitch emote
i find osu forums to be helpful and usually find the advice im looking for
Thank God osu coaching is getting exposure of being a scam, paying 50/hr for someone to tell u how to click circles is the dumbest thing, osu is the most simple game ever its just aim then tap circle nothing else
As far as coaching goes, I've never been coached and never want to be. When I was learning how to play, I just played to learn. The only time I watched videos hoping to get better was Spare's stream guide, but that's it. By the way, it did help a bit. It pushed me to practice lower BPMs, which in my case, was a good start. Though the thing that ultimately made me better at streaming was actually switching to ring/index which was so much more comfortable to play for me. Either way, don't buy coaching. Analyze your replays and find the problem yourself, which is not as hard as people make it out to be, and find a RUclips video from a reputable player that pertains to your issue. On top of that, don't be scared to experiment. Maybe you'll find a playstyle that you play much better with
Bro what you said actually remembered what I was doing to improve during the firsts 3 months. I started grinding without whining at myself again, thank you
4:40 thats actually really low hours for 1 year tbh, i've seen people dump 8k playcount per month with 1k hours in 8 months and still be 5 digit
And thats me
talent
The only hard part about improving, besides actually playing the game, is finding maps that cover your weaknesses and are also appropriate for your skill level.
But even that has only gotten easier
Play more is just a false promise. It's the idea that as long as you consistently play and challenge yourself that you will get better. While this might be true for the some players, I personally I have put 1.4k hours into this game in little over a year and don't see nearly the kind of improvement others do, I'm legit still 6 digit. This idea that everyone can achieve whatever they want as long as they spend enough time doing it is just false and people don't want to face the reality. Every day I try to play harder maps, work on my weaknesses ect. and it's just not moving at any kind of decent pace. The fact is that if this was something everyone could do we would all be mrekks and that's just not happening. So instead of bitching only to have the same line thrown at you day in and day out, just try to enjoy the game and accept that you might not have what it takes to make it to the top. Keep pushing and trying to improve, sure, but accept your pace and realize there is literally nothing you can do about it if you're simply just not cut out to stand out.
i really enjoy ur videos where u talk about somthing! I hope u will continue making them thanks
This stream was so entertaining lmao, glad I caught
I’ve been pushing skill cap for weeks now and today I didn’t have any stamina so I just played DT farm and went from rank 113k to 99k in about 4 hours crazy how playing more makes you better and how you don’t need to just play 5 stars to get good at 5 stars
Literally the same. Honestly skill cap pushing is the best and no one can say anything else
omw to make millions by telling them to play more
coming straight from a 6 digit
Im investing
listen ,,,, there was a month long period of time like 6 months? ago where i would exclusively watch content centered around improving osu. i have fr probably watched or read every osu improvement guide on the internet & i can confidently say that the ONLY thing that has actually helped me improve was playing more and consistently pushing my skill ceiling. 2 months ago i couldn't stream 165 for more than 9 notes and now i can pretty comfortably pass some 5+ minute burst / stream heavy maps up to like 210. if these people spent as much time actually playing the game and pushing themselves as they did worrying about stuff like coaching & auto method i feel like there'd be a lot more players satisfied with their rate of improvement.
also PLEASE, for the love of god, stop caring so much about rank. my enjoyment with this game increased tenfold when i finally let myself stop caring about an arbitrary number & started setting goals that mattered to ME and started playing stuff that was cool and fun to ME. the ranks will come as you improve, you will improve as you play more. learn to find enjoyment in even the smallest glimpses of improvement. even if i get 64% acc and 250x misses on a map, if my previous best was 63% acc and 251x misses - i'm happy because i'm better than i used to be, and that's gotta count for something.
tldr: play more, revel in even the smallest of improvements, and stop comparing your arbitrary number to other peoples' arbitrary numbers. you'll get there one day. :)
I haven't been properly coached before but I talk to alot of people for advice and am in quite a few coaching type servers and they have helped me a lot. I feel if I didn't take a lot of the advice I had gotten through methods like guides or other players semi coaching me then I would be way behind where I am. I do admit some times coaching is a waste of time like the examples in the start of this video tho lol. I do 100% agree that osu is a play more type of deal
I never expected that from hypno, 50/hr is just stupidly expensive, especially for a game like osu, and i know that he has to make money somehow, but like come on, charging Ed 300$ ?
I feel like hypno and fancylad are just scammers, never seen them do anything worth a while besides 6 digit farming clickbait vids on yt or the coaching that does nothing
"You don't expect somone to babysitting you for osu."
Man I glad that i finally get it on the way of getting out 6 digits, i glad that osu coaching was not a thing back then i was 6 digits and learning how to stream. Hell i even got 400pp and top 50k because of that 48 retries on sidetracked day.
Man I choked sidetracked day when I was 60k it was 4k pp in pretty sure at that time but got first 300 with it and I still can’t fc it lol even 2 years later just cursed song played without sound recently and almost fced but died on the last stream
i've been saying this for so long... The game is simple af, and yet people still want the easy way out and telling them what to do, these kind of people have been spoonfed their entire lives
7:20 there's a 3 digit on #osu that keeps repeating the same thing "consistency ain't a skill" and is adamant about it and will correct people on every skill-based statement they talk about there, don't remember their username tho
8:05 nah mugio3 must've studied auto back in his day
im over here telling myself to play stream maps more with only 122 hours played lol
I have 800 hours of playtime
in a spam of 7/8 years
I truly enjoy the game, wow hahahaha
Shit. I clearly must be playing the game wrong with 2k hours.
hey Zylice, I have 1053 hours and started Jul 2020, but seem to be skillcapped on 220 bpm streams. I've put in many, and MANY hours into grinding it, but I just can't seem to improve on speed, only stamina.
have you had these instances? if so, what did you do to overcome it? just played more? or did you try changing up your technique and whatnot?
I have a different issue. I can burst higher and higher bpms but can’t stream them
@Pulzanicus pulzanic I’m high 5 digit (22K)
I think it's important to just do it at your own pace and have fun in the process. I watched a video on stamina improvement where it was the "KHZ method," at first I was excited but it became really boring as time goes on. Went to improve my own, luckily it has worked cause now I can finally stream 200.
the more you overthink the worse you are just click the circles man
My friend told me not to play too difficult maps and I took it a bit seriously and never played maps harder than 3* for like three months and when I said screw it and started playing harder maps than 3* I got into 5* in like a month
@Pulzanicus pulzanic sorry shouldve expressed myself better. Yea I was only farming maps 3* and I'm talking about passing a few 5* farm maps. Seriously tho stream maps are very fun to play imo
@Pulzanicus pulzanic yeah breaks from osu make wonders XD. Iast time I FC'd Tower of heaven 4*diff 97% so I was really happy about that
osu! coaching is a scam
I could save all that coaching money by simply scrolling through reddit threads regarding overall improvement and some tiny tips like gamma and shit.
I just checked an apparently i have 420 hours, guess im never playing osu again 😂
I have put almost 800 hours in 1.5 years and i'm 88k
You also need to go slightly out of your comfort zone
Coaching really only makes sense when you're low ranked and you need someone to explain some concepts to you that the game doesn't teach you. It's not even coaching, just small bits of knowledge and tricks I've learned over the years:
Example:
What is AR and OD
How Star rating works and how it scales with pp
How HR and DT alter the difficulty and pp
How notelock works and how it relates to OD and a little bit of AR
How to make a practice diff
How to train speed or aim
How to push your limits
How to know when you're overstreaming or understreaming and how to account for it.
Getting more maps.
And much more
All of these I taught to a friend. Safe to say he's a mid 5 digit now and there's hardly anything else new I can teach him to improve besides Play More. When you don't have anyone to teach you these things I can see why someone would resort to a coach. Even though you can just have a higher ranked friend explain all of these for free
i don't like how the document was extremely biased and I don't even agree with the validity of coaching
it's funny cause if you cared enough about the game you would have figured most of what hypno says on your own. If you're buying coaching it shows you don't care enough about the game to figure stuff out and want to be spoonfed, and you will very likely not become a top player anyway
The ceo of coaching shesh
Now if anyone want tips on improving I'm just gonna link this video
W video
There is only one real coach that is worth your time from these freelance sites and that is shikke for affordable price
i agree
same thing with santa69 (well he got banned for being 'suspicious' a few months ago) but he got to 3 digit within one year by extreme retry spamming as well
though there was another 3 digit in 1 year dude who somehow did it without insane playtime, i have no idea how he did that (unfortunately can't remember his name and don't wanna go through my friends list...kinda long lmao)
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I dont think think osu coaching is any more of a scam than coaching for other things like tutoring or physical fitness. The coaches themselves have more insight and guide you for improvement. I wont argue that theyre providing anything new thats not already out there. But they provide you with the general direction and training maps rather than the usual “play more” and getting recommended either 2 star or 10 star jump/stream maps for practice
been saying this ever since osu! coaching was a thing, completely useless and you can find free guides on youtube if you dont know where to start
stamina advice: go gym work out arms and then play osu
dont take this serious its a joke
@@zxanosu I mean it actually helped me cuz before osu I was working out and became speed player lmao
Imo coaching could only help you if you're 400k-150k but even then, the only way you could help as a coach is to give maps, and play more LOL
Coaching is only useful if you dont care about the game enough to know what bad habits you are developing. If you don't care about the game enough you won't even reach top skill at all, so coaching is just useless at that point.
There’s no way osu coaches exist
I got a coach and he told me I was actually pretty good at everything and if I wanted to get better at streams I have to stream more
7:30 looks like shimon lol
7:29 based
Yo thx for the 10 min coaching session brother check your paypal for 100000000000 USD and another 100 bitcoins for just good measure good shit o7
Wait so ur saying if I don't control my pen enough I can't finger control or aim good enough??? Noway
I dont know much about osu but i still think Coaching can be helpful there are probably many Players who dont See their mistakes or the weakness causing that. So as a coach you can bring them to a conclusion maybe with a map Pool which focuses on their weakness. Ofc Just saying your aim sucks is not ok If you Take money for it. Never played osu but seen similar things in csgo, valorant, starcraft, world of warcraft and league.
My only issue with coaching is the price, 50 is wayyy to much, and the massive upcharge for btmc felt scummy.
@@emanuelsoto8766 50 for the work he has done is scummy but 50 for well fleshed out training plan with set goals and a way to get there i think would be legit, depends on how fleshed out it is.
@@nolosun260 50$ for an hour not long term coaching
None of the games you play are remotely similar to osu
What advice is possibly useful that you dont achieve on your own ? osu! is a purely mechanical game where you literally know everything there is to know but just braindead playing the game. i understand coaching for a game like Valorant where tactics and decision making that actually come into play on coaching because you literally can teach that aspect quite literally. But osu! has none of that. You just got finessed if you played for osu! coaching
I have spammed 700 hs in a year and i am 6 digits ... I think I learn so slow XD
Or idk how to improve
why is this dude zylice so smart and attractive😮😮❤
That's an advice. Not a coaching wtf
Before I listened to one of the coaching sessions, I thought Habib actually knows about getting better at osu. After listening in, I realized he's completely bullshit. LoL
bro should coach for a stream just because
Wtf…this guy is rank 500 after 800 hours?
I started 5 months ago, I have 600 hours and I’m 220k…it’s so frustrating because I feel like my improvement is the slowest you can possibly have. I play so many different types of maps (streams, tech, jumps, fingercontrol, also farm) and I mostly play 6 or 7 stars instead of 5 stars but I’m still too inconsistent to easily fc 5 star maps
I don’t fking get it. I’m so dedicated to this game and I’m having much fun but getting better is a big point of motivation for me but it just feels so damn hard :(
I just looked to your profile. What zylice is giving advice here is that go outside of your comfort zone by a little. You dont improve by going outside of your comfort zone too much. In my opinion you should work on 5* for now. Just because you have some fcs on 5* hyperfarm maps doesnt mean you are really good at them. Maybe if you are good at like not hyperfarm but farm i would say sure to playing 6* maps. But your only 5* fcs on maps that are either dt (which is really just simple patterns at 5*) or no mod hyperfarm
1:40 as zylice said play slightly above ur comfort zone and 4.5-4.75* is probably like the comfort zone for you. So basically play slightly above that
simply put: any top player rn is very likely to be both talented and put a ton of work into it. You can be a top player without talent but that requires so much more grind and dedication than a normal person would be willing to be put to.
The best advice I got when I was frustrated over not improving (came from FlyingTuna when I dm'd him) is not thinking about this too much. The frustration over not improving and trying to overthink everything is worse than accepting what you're capable of. Play the game and have fun. You will get a breakthrough eventually.
@@finesseandstyle I dont really think talent exists im my opinion really but thats that
@@kujubuo Ask my friend who's cracked at pretty much ANY game he plays (Global Elite at CSGO) but come to osu and he's astonishingly average. Ask him why isn't he 3 digit yet. If you think talent doesn't exist I'm sorry but that's just wrong. Ask why mrekk is so good. He'll tell you "Idk I just play the game". Ask sinatraa (#1 Overwatch Player) why he is so good at the game, he'll tell you the exact same thing. If you're expecting a very detailed answer from the best because they know how they got so good, they won't. You don't become the best with pure effort alone. Although you can come close of course.
I respect your mindset of believing you got where you are because of your blood and sweat but denying talent exists is stupid. Because if it didn't everyone would improve at the same pace and the same way.
great and funny video!
What is the intro song?
is it just me of like zylice got less chubbier
hi zylice
i mean osu is a game you just cant coach bc if u are misaiming the only thing u can say is hit it but i agree i am not as fast improving as spicy but i got 1k hours in a little over a year and im almost 4 digit so it pays off for me.
The different people improvment rate difference is too high.
Do you really think that players who kept pushing their comfort zone for 800 hours like Sp1cyy and have like 30k rank is a rare case?
I get 100pp after 70 hours of playing and 200pp after 340h (+ about 70h offline), and I am not retry spamming, not playing the same maps over and over, not sitting in my comfort zone, and I am only focused on improvement.
So why there are so many people who have 400h and they are 4-digits? The only 2 answers are coming to head - genetics and you are doing something wrong. First variant is a deadend and lead to nothing, while second variant lead to coaching.
I bought khz coaching 1 time, and there was many of info that I know before, but 1 thing was new and it was game changing. Before session a practiced streams for like 3 months and get almost 0 improvement. But khz said that I just to need relax my hand when streaming and it instantly increased my streaming skill. Before session i went from stable streaming 150bpm to stable streaming 155bpm in 3 months, and after i went from 155bpm to 170bpm in 1 month. Its may be rare case but it there
In one video osu RUclipsrs laughing on people who blame genetics, in other videos RUclipsrs laughing on coaching. I think in that case the only answer to the people who get stuck in 6 digits for 500 hours and then for 1500 hours more they stuck in 5 digits the only solution is quit the game, right?
I would like to talk zylice. I have 2.5k hours
Just coach yourself and become the best player ever who is totally snobby, ez
Or just click more cercles
6:30 I have multiple mid 7* fcs but can't practically ever fc 5*s first try Lol
Well do you really need to?
How about be more specific instead of just saying "play more"
If i can become a top player playing 1 star maps a million times then shit dude imma start my grind lol
It's funny how a lot of people translate good osu! aim to good aim in FPS and stuff which makes sense. Even if 2D -> 3D isn't 1:1, the fundamental of good hand eye coordination and the "feeling" of the aim is there. In other words, people are experienced aimers. However, it somehow becomes a foreign idea when osu! players are told you need to PRACTICE a skill to improve. Very rarely is it a fundamental issue, but rather the attitude or mindset. Improvement becomes peripherals and coaching rather than gaining the experience and feeling of playing high BPM, stamina intensive, or large spacing maps.
-Yours truly, a 6 digit shitter.
good voodeo
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how would u even begin to coach this game, you just click circles its not rocket science
tl;dr - osu coaching is not a scam, you're just stupid for paying for it. Play more, git gud, cope, seethe, mald.
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So I have you as a friend in osu kick me lucky
i was playing for 4 years but i barely have 600 hours in the game 😭
i have 700 hrs in 5 years, still one of the best players in the game..
200hrs 5 years 🥲🥲
I have 572 in 4 years lmao
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So cunning LUL
Play more is shit advice that does not work for me