The U.S. Forest Service does not make a "profit" from timber sales. The program to administer and conduct timber sales exceeds that of the sales themselves. It is a deficit program. Besides that, money collected from timber sales and grazing fees go into the treasury or general fund of the federal government so the agency, even if these two programs made a "profit," would not benefit the agency in any way. If the agency made a profit, rather than a deficit, it might tend to convince the Congress to fund more sales. Timber sales are not always just for wood volume and to make money, some timber sales are done to reduce timber stand density, which is unnaturally dense due to putting out all fires for nearly 100 years. Pulpwood sales (smaller trees in the understory) are done for the same reason. The sale areas are then treated with prescribed burns to imitate natural fire and to get the forests back into a more natural fire cycle. We should not always think timber sales are bad, some are for a management goal so it is complicated.
The condition and unique and rich natural and cultural resources of the Hoosier National Forest is a perfect candidate for a natural preserve, the new Mini Smokey Mountains National park. The HNF is a treasure that is remarkably unspoiled in many aspects. The Karst features are World class. The historic Buffalo Trace is intact and visible there. The Lost River is a World Wonder. The recovering hardwood forests are on well on their way to old growth status and provide a huge Carbon sink to counter todays climate changing horrors.
Don't kill old growth, then out forest lame and cringe like the east coast or europe forest in the western us and asia are giants and should be protected.
Forest Service folks are more laid back, Park service folks are institutionalized and often outright weird in a rude way. Forest Service people are way more chill than those snooty, uptight weirdos in the park service. Forest Service is also far more Republican, the park service is full of far left wing white picket fence, BIG opinion while types who were sheltered their entire lives. Can't stand them.
National parks are the most precious land in this country, they have to be uptight about protecting it. All it takes is one cigarette to destroy thousands of acres of forest and habitat that have existed for thousands of years. I don't blame them, if I knew I was responsible for protecting land for my children and their children and so forth I'd be pretty uptight about it. I have been to many national parks and each of them have flat out been ravaged by human beings both in direct and indirect means and are constantly under attack.
The U.S. Forest Service does not make a "profit" from timber sales. The program to administer and conduct timber sales exceeds that of the sales themselves. It is a deficit program. Besides that, money collected from timber sales and grazing fees go into the treasury or general fund of the federal government so the agency, even if these two programs made a "profit," would not benefit the agency in any way. If the agency made a profit, rather than a deficit, it might tend to convince the Congress to fund more sales. Timber sales are not always just for wood volume and to make money, some timber sales are done to reduce timber stand density, which is unnaturally dense due to putting out all fires for nearly 100 years. Pulpwood sales (smaller trees in the understory) are done for the same reason. The sale areas are then treated with prescribed burns to imitate natural fire and to get the forests back into a more natural fire cycle. We should not always think timber sales are bad, some are for a management goal so it is complicated.
The condition and unique and rich natural and cultural resources of the Hoosier National Forest is a perfect candidate for a natural preserve, the new Mini Smokey Mountains National park. The HNF is a treasure that is remarkably unspoiled in many aspects. The Karst features are World class. The historic Buffalo Trace is intact and visible there. The Lost River is a World Wonder. The recovering hardwood forests are on well on their way to old growth status and provide a huge Carbon sink to counter todays climate changing horrors.
I think its good we have both. We need to have lumber so might as well do it in a sustainable way
Don't kill old growth, then out forest lame and cringe like the east coast or europe forest in the western us and asia are giants and should be protected.
@@N0rth_Star That's why we have national parks
Forest Service folks are more laid back, Park service folks are institutionalized and often outright weird in a rude way. Forest Service people are way more chill than those snooty, uptight weirdos in the park service. Forest Service is also far more Republican, the park service is full of far left wing white picket fence, BIG opinion while types who were sheltered their entire lives. Can't stand them.
National parks are the most precious land in this country, they have to be uptight about protecting it. All it takes is one cigarette to destroy thousands of acres of forest and habitat that have existed for thousands of years. I don't blame them, if I knew I was responsible for protecting land for my children and their children and so forth I'd be pretty uptight about it.
I have been to many national parks and each of them have flat out been ravaged by human beings both in direct and indirect means and are constantly under attack.