Disclaimer: the architects voices are AI generated. However, the quoats are real and have been extracted from original passages : 1. Louis Sullivan: he said in his 1892 essay "Ornament in architecture" We should abstain entirely from doing decorative work for a periode of years, in order that our thought may concentrate actuely upon the production of buildings well formed and comely in the nude. 2 Le Corbusier: where he said in his book " Vers une architecture": decoration is of a sensorial and elementary order, as is colour, and is suited to simple races, peasants and savages. 3. Walter Gropius: he said in his 1919 bauhaus manifesto: "the ultimate goal of all art is the building, The ornamentation of the building was once the main purpose of the visual arts.....Today, the greatest menace to architecture is decorartion and ornamentation.
Alvar Aalto tried to deface a historic university in my hometown, but thankfully plenty of stuff was stashed away or just plastered over, and the head of the university told he wanted to keep the magnificent ceramic oven. We've managed to restore plenty of the structure after his cultural barbarian assault.
Adolf Loos is spelt without an "e" at the end. Now, the thought of simplicity being "honesty" in these movements (de stijl, arts & crafts, bauhaus, etc) comes from the fact that back in the day, even washing machines were designed to look like greek temples, with corinthic columns, architraves, etc. So the radical simplicity was in itself a reaction to a different cancer.
Have you seen what the communist architects built in the Soviet Union? Khrushchevka: The depressing architecture of the soviete union ruclips.net/video/Po3N0mFoONQ/видео.html
I will never understand why small channels like these, especially those with decent content like this one, use AI images in their thumbnails. Its disgusting and off putting. If you want more views stop using AI pictures as thumbnails
The book is called "Ornament AND Crime", not "Ornament Is a Crime", and it is even shown in the 3D model at 0:14. Yet you go by the name "honest architect". How ironic. Btw I am pretty sure Gropius, Corbusier, and Sullivan never said those things in the beginning of the video. I mean, have you ever seen a building by Louis Sullivan? They are famous for being richly ornamented.
First, the Louis Sullivan quote was taken from his 1892 essay "Ornament in Architecture," where he says: "We should abstain entirely from doing decorative work for a period of years, in order that our thought may concentrate acutely upon the production of buildings well formed and comely in the nude." Second, Le Corbusier's quote was taken from his book "Vers une Architecture." And finally, I am a licensed architect. So thank you
I was really excited for this video, and I agreed with the premise. But I had to stop watching as soon as there was a misconstrued quote by Louis Sullivan, who wrote a book, "a System of Ornament..." - and was the mentor of Frank Lloyd Wright who believed in Ornament up until he died in 1959...
What is still with us is a tendancy by some (with power or without) to proclaim and decree great works to be of lesser value and that several works cannot coexist. This clip is about architecture, but some poo-poo music composition that has melody and tradional chords. The word old-fashioned can sound lovely when expressed by some and in the others it's mockery, the worst thing one can say.
You got this wrong. At least please read Loos. In essence it is not a capitalist but a socialist idea. The core is to take away workload from the working class to allow them more free time.
Gropius and Le Corbusier didn't do so much damage to Architecture per se, as the capitalist interests who corrupted their ideas into a mean of building cheap buildings and aspiring to the lowest common denominator. Offend no one,.Move no one. Architects like them were responding to the opposite extreme that was going on at the time - a gaudy ornament that was needlessly encrusting architecture. In the interim it is true that architecture has swung to the opposite extreme and then some. But I could not blame them for their ideas being corrupted into the soulless wastelands of the built environment that we live in today -
Says the guy using an ai generated thumbnail. There is beauty in lack of ornamentation The international style/minimalist architecture is objectively better because you dont need 500 craftsmen to create one pillar that even the creator of this video used ai to make
@sergpie ornamentation is just visual noise. Heres a good frame of reference. If you cant visualize a building in your head because its so ornate then its not worth looking at.
Sorry but if Loos wrote his book it's because Ornements lost their role, they were cheap and mass porducts, used all over like a plaster coat, Buildings have a soul when they are carefuly designed. And nowadays, ornements or not, they are mass produced by corporations
True, the mass production of ornamentation after the Industrial Revolution played a huge role in its rejection. But to say that ornament had no role at all? No, it was deeply connected to the identity and soul of buildings.
Ornaments that weren't for the richest of the rich arr always mass produced. I guess no one should have a lovely column unless a sculptor carves it by hand????
Disclaimer: the architects voices are AI generated. However, the quoats are real and have been extracted from original passages :
1. Louis Sullivan: he said in his 1892 essay "Ornament in architecture" We should abstain entirely from doing decorative work for a periode of years, in order that our thought may concentrate actuely upon the production of buildings well formed and comely in the nude.
2 Le Corbusier: where he said in his book " Vers une architecture": decoration is of a sensorial and elementary order, as is colour, and is suited to simple races, peasants and savages.
3. Walter Gropius: he said in his 1919 bauhaus manifesto: "the ultimate goal of all art is the building, The ornamentation of the building was once the main purpose of the visual arts.....Today, the greatest menace to architecture is decorartion and ornamentation.
Wonderful that there has begun a questioning and push-back against the UGLINESS of modern soul-less architecture/design.
I am a proud peasant and noble savage!
Beauty is beyond reason. Nice.
Alvar Aalto tried to deface a historic university in my hometown, but thankfully plenty of stuff was stashed away or just plastered over, and the head of the university told he wanted to keep the magnificent ceramic oven. We've managed to restore plenty of the structure after his cultural barbarian assault.
Beauty is function. Ornamentation is function. To claim the opposite can only stem from a flawed understanding of human psychology.
i don't know why this video has so few views
because its bad lol
Buildings didn't lose their soul, human greed stole it from them.
Poor and greed is same thing NOWDAYS 😢😢😢
Adolf Loos is spelt without an "e" at the end. Now, the thought of simplicity being "honesty" in these movements (de stijl, arts & crafts, bauhaus, etc) comes from the fact that back in the day, even washing machines were designed to look like greek temples, with corinthic columns, architraves, etc. So the radical simplicity was in itself a reaction to a different cancer.
Exactly! And Loos used a lot of ornament in his work, if I recall correctly. Thank you!
very interesting, thank you mate
tbh big money was never about money... big money is always about POWER
Good video but you really need to do a spelling check
*walks pass the display, peers in out of curiosity...gets bored...abt turns*
So even architects were fascist not unsurprising
Have you seen what all the communist architects built in the Soviet Union?
Have you seen what the communist architects built in the Soviet Union?
Khrushchevka: The depressing architecture of the soviete union
ruclips.net/video/Po3N0mFoONQ/видео.html
Giving buildings ornamentation is no different to people wearing jewellery…
Change my mind.
Or clothes
@@michaelsapienza8749 clothes would be the tile roof
Roof tiles are the clothes. They keep the building safe from the elements.
I will never understand why small channels like these, especially those with decent content like this one, use AI images in their thumbnails. Its disgusting and off putting. If you want more views stop using AI pictures as thumbnails
Haha omg, ok, I changed it! You bullied me so hard hhhh 😅
The book is called "Ornament AND Crime", not "Ornament Is a Crime", and it is even shown in the 3D model at 0:14. Yet you go by the name "honest architect". How ironic.
Btw I am pretty sure Gropius, Corbusier, and Sullivan never said those things in the beginning of the video. I mean, have you ever seen a building by Louis Sullivan? They are famous for being richly ornamented.
First, the Louis Sullivan quote was taken from his 1892 essay "Ornament in Architecture," where he says: "We should abstain entirely from doing decorative work for a period of years, in order that our thought may concentrate acutely upon the production of buildings well formed and comely in the nude."
Second, Le Corbusier's quote was taken from his book "Vers une Architecture."
And finally, I am a licensed architect.
So thank you
and i would really love to hear your opinion on the topic instead of these accusations
@@archidots Okay, I take that assumption back!
I was really excited for this video, and I agreed with the premise. But I had to stop watching as soon as there was a misconstrued quote by Louis Sullivan, who wrote a book, "a System of Ornament..." - and was the mentor of Frank Lloyd Wright who believed in Ornament up until he died in 1959...
👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
....and cut to Mon Oncle. And to milk the Tati theme, didn't the great man once say 'Geometrical lines do not produce likeable people.'
"A war on beauty" or "no longer admiring Michelangelo or gothic cathedrals" was not their point. Quite the opposite actually.
Not true.
What is still with us is a tendancy by some (with power or without) to proclaim and decree great works to be of lesser value and that several works cannot coexist. This clip is about architecture, but some poo-poo music composition that has melody and tradional chords. The word old-fashioned can sound lovely when expressed by some and in the others it's mockery, the worst thing one can say.
Haha, well, I’m sorry you hated my "poo-poo music" ! 😂
@@archidots I love your "poo-poo music"! 😂
Btw "very good video imo"! 😊
You got this wrong. At least please read Loos. In essence it is not a capitalist but a socialist idea. The core is to take away workload from the working class to allow them more free time.
Gropius and Le Corbusier didn't do so much damage to Architecture per se, as the capitalist interests who corrupted their ideas into a mean of building cheap buildings and aspiring to the lowest common denominator. Offend no one,.Move no one. Architects like them were responding to the opposite extreme that was going on at the time - a gaudy ornament that was needlessly encrusting architecture. In the interim it is true that architecture has swung to the opposite extreme and then some. But I could not blame them for their ideas being corrupted into the soulless wastelands of the built environment that we live in today -
Says the guy using an ai generated thumbnail.
There is beauty in lack of ornamentation
The international style/minimalist architecture is objectively better because you dont need 500 craftsmen to create one pillar that even the creator of this video used ai to make
American jails prove your point, such beauty in their simplicity. 😮
You’re right; nowadays you need 500 low-cost workers to install siding and glazing that will be decrepit in 20 years.
@sergpie ornamentation is just visual noise. Heres a good frame of reference. If you cant visualize a building in your head because its so ornate then its not worth looking at.
@@patriayvida6850 doesnt change the fact that OP is lazy and used an ai generated thumbnail. Who is more creatively bankrupt?
Sorry but if Loos wrote his book it's because Ornements lost their role, they were cheap and mass porducts, used all over like a plaster coat, Buildings have a soul when they are carefuly designed. And nowadays, ornements or not, they are mass produced by corporations
True, the mass production of ornamentation after the Industrial Revolution played a huge role in its rejection. But to say that ornament had no role at all? No, it was deeply connected to the identity and soul of buildings.
Ornaments that weren't for the richest of the rich arr always mass produced. I guess no one should have a lovely column unless a sculptor carves it by hand????
Give me mone, so i can make house with homemade ornament😊😊😊