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The Fetishization of Racial Ambiguity | Blackfishing vs Eurocentric Beauty Standards
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- 6 Trends Shaping The Future Of The $532B Beauty Business by Pamela N. Danziger www.forbes.com/sites/pamdanzi...
- Is ‘pretty privilege’ actually a thing? We're still talking about it-here's why By Sagal Mohammed www.myimperfectlife.com/amp/f...
- the brownskin vs darkskin debate on tiktok - amandamaryanna • the brownskin vs darks...
- Analysis of the Impact of Eurocentric Concepts of Beauty on the Lives of African American Women C.2014 by Huberta Jackson-Lowman www.researchgate.net/publicat...
- Beauty is in the eye of…the Colonizer? | Khadija Mbowe • Beauty is in the eye o...
- Occidentalisation of Beauty Standards: Eurocentrism in Asia by Chen & associates. projects.iq.harvard.edu/files...
- The Latina Beauty Ideal: When you are Never Enough by Charlotte F. / the-latina-beauty-idea...
- The rise of multiracial and multiethnic babies in the U.S. by Gretchen Livingston www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...
- Beauty is in the Ear of the Beholder Too by Karl Bates researchblog.duke.edu/2016/08...
- What is Blackfishing And Why Is It Problematic For Black Women? By Habiba Katsha www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...
- How White Women On Instagram Are Profiting Off Black Women by Wanna Thompson www.papermag.com/white-women-...
- Colorism www.nccj.org/colorism-0
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- What Is Ethnocentrism And How It Affects Beauty - QOVES Studio • What Is Ethnocentrism ...
- Keeping Up With the Appropriation: Reverting back to Whiteness by Bri Nobles • Keeping Up With the Ap...
- Beauty is in the eye of…the Colonizer? | Khadija Mbowe • Beauty is in the eye o...
- “You’re only pretty because you look white...” | Beauty standards in “Pretty Privilege” by SHOLAYY • “You’re only pretty be...
- Ariana Grande really, really wants to be mixed - For Harriet • Ariana Grande really, ...
- The 'GRANDE' Problem With Ariana | An Analysis by Salem Tovar • The 'GRANDE' Problem W...
- 7 Rings - Ariana Grande music video • Ariana Grande - 7 ring...
- Self Tanning: How To Protect Your Skin! | Dr. Shereene Idriss • Self Tanning: How To P...
Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
4:00 Traditional Eurocentric Beauty Standards
7:43 Rise of Mixed Race Aesthetics in Pop Culture
9:09 The Kardashian Era & Blackfisning
12:52 Semi-Permanent Alterations for Ethnically Desirable Traits
15:42 Colorism, Mixed-ness of POC in Medias
17:24 Final Thoughts
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The mentality of ppl who tan and ppl who bleach are not the same. Ppl tan for how it looks. Ppl bleach because they what a better life. In places where bleaching is a thing, you can lose out on conventional jobs if you are too dark. Ive never heard someone say they lost a job b.c they were too pale
@@gracebosley9575 i said CONVENTIONAL job. Not modeling or artistic where ppl go for a certain asthetic. And your experience is anecdotal not universal
That’s so well said!
@@berebadnessno one has ever lost a job for being to dark.
I know many people have been bullied for being to pale
@@berrymckockiner5883 your privilege is showing. clearly you know nothing outside of your own bubble and have no knowledge of the culture of colorism in many African nations as well as India, or the Philippines. just because you don't see it because it doesn't affect you, does not mean it doesn't exist. look at any commercial for bleaching cream in India and it is heavily implied that to get the job you need to lighten your skin.
@@berrymckockiner5883 also being bullied and losing out on economic stability is not the same thing. stop being a snowflake. pun intended
I was totally wondering if anyone else knew that Ariana Grande was white passing as a dark Italian.
She also grew up RICH. Had a music studio SET UP in her $5 million dollar home in the 1990's to set her up for her music career. Both her parents are millionaires, with her mother having a long time generational business that sells navy surveillance and sonar equipment to the military's navy since around the 1950's.
I thought Italians were white ? Shut up !!
Ariana grande is italian!
I thought she's Mexican 🤷♀️
As a mixed race person, thanks for this video. It's honestly been really damaging for me (and I assume for many who are/n't mixed) and continues to be because of this need others have and praises when it comes to ambiguous beauty. It has been hurtful and caused many insecurities, I don't pass as white and lean towards looking Asian. Or at least I don't look mixed in the exotic way people want with coloured eyes or something, and I have literally just been sitting doing nothing and people have suddenly told me in a negative tone I don't 'look mixed at all' or any variation of that. making me even want to get plastic surgery etc to 'fix' this issue. Honestly thats just a brief description this stuff generally makes my life hell sometimes. Seeing other mixed kids be praised on their appearance, or hearing white people or others say things like 'I look more -insert certain ethnicity- than you' is just.. I have a mirror, i'm not stupid, and why is appearance the only important thing for me to partake in a culture that's my blood right. Many traits are recessive so even when you see a 'perfectly mixed' looking person in the media, many of us look noticeably monoracial. People love to make jokes about mixed people because it's just an easier jab than to question the strange standards racism causes in our world, but have some control over yourself and a bit of empathy. Interestingly these days i'm not like when I was a child: wanting white features to pass as white and to fit in, now I want white features to look mixed and to feel secure in my identity because people who are not even from my cultures think they can dictate how much of something I can be. Yet this will look the same from the outside, because it's probably just as toxic of a want.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share this with me! It’s a topic very close to my heart as this is something my kids will have to experience for certain growing up. I’m sorry this has been understandably difficult for you, and I hope it gets better as society becomes more aware of its issues regarding this…
@@deleted01 hahahaha you missed the point the like the Titanic should of missed the iceberg Troll
@@laurieswanderingmind thanks and oh yeah I’m definitely more ok now, I wish people knew more about how biracial and monoracial kids can be affected similarly and differently growing up. I just think it’s so rude people are all up in mixed kids face telling them how they should be, and if they are not, then they will point it out 100 times and implying it’s a bad thing, when genetics affects everybody differently and that’s ok
It's funny bc as a completely Black Woman (at least my father and mother are Black) I have naturally long hair and I wear my hair straight. It always amazes me that people think they have a right to tell me how I should wear my hair as if they own me (White, Black and others) , as if wearing my hair long would make me more ambiguous as a BW which would make me "less proud to be Black". I obviously look Black, so what difference does it make how I wear my hair; again, I have a mirror and not confused about how I look. At the end of the day, it's about other people's own insecurities bc they would prefer to put you in a catagory or a box of what they think you should be based on your outside appearance.
Asian isn’t a race
Thank you for this! I enjoyed your breakdown. I would like to add that "blackfishing" tends to be more of a "mixed race" look, as opposed to "stereotypically" black ( due to picking specific features, not all)
You are absolutely right! It is rarely about actually appearing black, it really is about striving to look more racially ambiguous by adopting some specific features!
This. I call it “mixed fishing”. They’re obviously not trying to look black.
I don't get why this topic is so un investigated on you tube . Thanks for your intelligent words
Thank you!! :)
It isn't.
It would not fit the narrative.Ive been mixed all my life and have no desire for the attire and consumerism that Black and White dress us up in to sell and then question where I stole that from.
It's not un- nor under-investgated, though. Not at all. You need to train the algorithm to put those videos before you. But if you don't watch any channels by black women, that's likely why. The algorithm isn't favorable to those channels by default.
@@toomuchinformation Exactly. It's like people who think something doesn't exist before the first time they hear about it. Black women have been releasing professor-level videos on this topic for years.
It’s actually mainly “mixed-fishing.”
I agree
This
I wish someone would make a video of all these white influencer who seem to “use” a black friend in order to get views. Many of them do this. So annoying.
I guess I fall into this category. I look totally white with fair freckly skin and wavy brown hair. My father was from Scotland . My mother was half Jewish and Half Aboriginal. Growing up in Australia, I exp racism from all sides. I've certainly felt the pressure to identify as one particular group and all the while never quite fitting into any .
Aboriginal??…
I didn't know how to rate this video. I just take it that you're young and don't have any tight connections with anyone in the black community either IRL or on RUclips. I appreciate your opinion and perspective. However, given the weight of how things like privilege, colorism, and featurism come into play got this type of conversation, I don't think clip insertion is enough. I feel that at this point, you would have needed to actually pull black women in for comment. Two things can be true at the same time. Taking on the black female way of speaking, hair and nail styling, how we dress, etc has been shamed, used against us, and thrown back in our own faces negatively when we perform those things. But when non-black women and even Trans women do those same things they become looks, trends, and suddenly circulated as the best new things. In the cases of women of no color, we know they don't want to be black women. Black women have no real, desirable privileges. That is part of the problem.
Blackfishing is just a way for non-poc to do black face and to also climb the social latter in the black community. Its more but I recommend looking at more black commentary channels also nice video.
I am black please explain this to me. This makes no sense.
If you're talking about white vvomen who date black men, then yes this is true, so many do so to gain social status from it, showing how totally "anti-racist" and cool they are. On the other hand, what's wrong with fetishizing any race, how does that harm the race of people?
@@pjabber5679 It harms them when they're NOT SEEN as people, but are so objectified and fetishized, that they lose their humanity.
@@toomuchinformation You can have a fetish for someone and still see them as people. I'm very well aware that other races are people too. Do you ever go through phases, where sometimes you are more trned-on by one race over others, so it's kinda like a kink in a way?
@@pjabber5679 its dehumanizing bruh people aren't objects and their race shouldn't be some sort of kink to get you off its major weirdo vibes
A well researched and well edited video with so many relevant naunced points 👍👍👍👍😁
Thank you!! :)
It’s a beautiful video. Very well put together!
But if guys are only into European blonde girls why isn’t that a fetish? We only seem to refer to it as a fetish if it’s white men attracted outside of their race.
Really liked the whole tone of your video, thank you.
I know a guy who is half black, and he was always self conscious about not being dark enough, and wanting to get as tanned as he could in the summer. My dad gets really dark in the summer too, but we don't have any ancestry from Africa or Central American islands (I've traced it back to England, Ireland, and Germany). It seems like for most average people, wanting to get tanned or stay light seems to be more of a personal choice, as I've known people on both sides of a variety of skin tones. It's odd that it seems like a lot of notable celebrities want to look more in the middle, and to see how that backfired on some.
i agree
Ikr that's why I always roll my eyes when bp talk about beauty standards
Very interesting! I loved the closure referencing a sort of post apocaliptic world where we will all look completely different from our birth ethnicity
I also want to point out as a very white woman…with some black ancestry very far back in my tree…I was called horrible names during the summertime as a child. Kids referred to me as “mulatto” and I was punched in the stomach and knocked to the ground for looking dark during the summer. My curly hair and tan skin was made fun of all the time…especially white girls and boys made fun of my hair and the way I looked. Young boys referred to me as a dog. And I am a white/thin woman with only small amounts of African/Sicilian/middle Eastern roots. I’ve straightened my hair for years with chemical straighteners since I was a teenager and always felt I needed to look more white. I’ve spent years trying to appear whiter to avoid the deep trauma of how I was treated as a child. If I decided to embrace my natural hair etc…people would only decide I shouldn’t do so because I’m white. So it’s like people really aren’t allowed to just be themselves. I don’t want to take away what’s being said here because it’s very important, but this can’t be as simple as choosing a hairstyle etc…this goes so much deeper.
That's terrible. And you're correct that this works both ways. I'm half Maltese. I have white skin and I'm 100% European. So I guess I'm white, right? But I've been mistaken for Arab, and some of my Maltese family have tanned skin and could be described as 'brown'. I have thick wavy black hair so does that me 'racially ambiguous' when I'm just being my natural self!
Have you seriously never been bullied by non-White kids? What sucks about toxic beauty standards and ethnic prejudice is the self-destructive envy as well demonizing the collective for the actions of a few.
Wow even cited the sources at the end!
There are not races they are people groups. And yes some Europeans have blond hair but many don’t brown is the most common hair color in the world. Blond color is the result of missing information
Blonde hair and blue eyes are rare in general
Yes, in fact most Europeans have dark hair and brown eyes. Blonde hair and blue eyes only reach a majority in some parts of Northern Europe
This vid deserves so many more views.
Thank you!! :)
Very good video! Keep it up!
Thank you!!
i experienced racism im white from uk and Russian background and i came to brampton ontario to rent a room and these indian girls said they couldn't rent to me because im a foreigner and its brampton and an indian city. ive never been so offended
Great Video 🥰🥂Blessings beautiful 🙏🏼😇Shared ❤️
Great video!❤
Actually most of African Americans are in fact mixed. We’re more mixed than people want to believe, or know. Most of us have European and some Native American ancestry, and not all of it is a product of slavery.
Yeah like my mom doesn’t like when I say I’m mixed but I’m a product of a biracial father and her, so I’m probably over 1/4th European and closer to 1/3rd due to added European admixture. I look more ambiguous then the average black person despite my Afro hair and my sister looks like your average biracial, and people ask us all the time if we are Mexican or mixed.
The mixture in most African Americans is minimal, with 25% being the top end and only really in New Orleans. There’s studies about this. Whereas mulatto mixed people are 50%+ nonblack, with an entire half of their family being non-black. It’s a completely different daily, familial, and genetic reality.
It's crazy. Every race has beautiful features. Black, white, brown, we all have something unique and beautiful. Sometimes you just like how something looks, and want it. Sometimes it's deeper. I have medium skin. I have lightened it before. I was treated differently. I have also had people compliments dark skin too. It's part of humanity .
Amazing!
Thank you!!
I was sure Rita Ora was black😮
It’s like humans look the same or something 😂
Very interesting!
Rita Ora is WHITE!???
I never knew this was a thing... lol but as kid and as adult (when I didn't bleach my hair and straighten it into oblivion). Id get asked if I was Indigenous or hispanic. I am a mutt but don't have the typical white people features... not tall, not blonde, not bony, no light eyes. After high-school I was pretty heavy set. In all honesty, looked very similar to you. I tan really well and get darker every time I tan and hold that tan way longer than typical white people. My mom gets a sunburn and 2 weeks shes back to pale 😅
It has allways been that way lol
omg I been saying this
"Recent trend" I've been dealing with this since grade school. It's nothing new.
List Arabs but you don't realize Kim Kardashian is an arab
Armenian
@@tmmartinesq.6216 no DNA tests proved she's literally Middle Eastern. Both her sisters are literally 45% Middle Eastern Arab
Arab gulf girls look different than other west Asians. Armenian are more white than arab gulf countries. West Asians can be brown like yamen and can look white like Lebanon
I have no interest for having an exotic look. I bleach my hair and my skin.
I live in Europe , not United States and trust be , siren eyes , wavy hair , full lips , wide hips and tanned skin is extremely shamed and disliked here.
I don't think it's eurocentric to have smaller frame. In fact white women tend to be bigger than other races of women.
I think it's racist to be saying someone excessive tans like it's not your skin tone so it's none of your business. If they can more than what you wish they would tan. That's racist
You are young but so matured.
But Italians and Arabs especially since you guys keep saying Arabs are late. Are going to look racially ambiguous when you say Arabs aren't White.
Kim Kardashian's lips have been getting small are not really bigger. But yeah her lips were always big a lot of Arab women have full lips. Go outside. You will see. There are of women that look like Kim. Get over it
she's half arab so she should be proud of her arab roots instead of copying other poc women
@@Ronsquaremy no but the reality and that is women of color especially black women are trying to look like Arab woman. That's why you think that's your image when it's an Arab phenotype
@@Ronsquaremy so black women should be proud of how they look and not trying to look like other types of women.
She is west Asian Armenian not arab. She is not Arabian. She is Armenian
And Ariana grande tans heavily because Italians tan heavily there's nothing shocking about this. I don't know maybe you need to go to Italy get around more. Hear more about Italian people they're well-known for tanning. This is nothing new. I guess it's new for you but not for most people.
Her tan didn’t come from the sun though, she literally lived or still lives in NY
@@AngelicaEstherxo you must be very fair or very dark for people who are Fitzpatrick skin type 3 or 4 we tan in the north she is a type 3
I am racially ambiguous, and although pretty, honestly no one around me cares.
There also black people with loose curls and naturals straight hair
I don't really mean mixed race
Not really. Especially the naturally straight hair-unless you’re grouping Australian Aborigines as black peoples like Africans, then no. Go to Africa, and unless you’re in the historically Arab-mixed East African countries, NO ONE has naturally loose curls or straight hair unless they’re biracial.
A fair question, were the nordic people who colonized the world or even the European whites felt down compared to Nordic beauty?
@Christian Pepe but once upon the time the barbarians were dizimaded, not?
Jews and Italians were not considered equal to British whites .
@@iceprincess825 ???
up until very recently the only people who were considered white white were Anglo saxons because it was Anglo saxons (British) making the rules for a long while. They even said that the Irish were not white, so of course they wouldn’t consider the Mediterranean white / eastern white to be white.
@@supappareale
@@winxclubstellamusa good take
No they look actually just like Arab women. But a lot of black women do try to look like Arab women. That is a constant situation. That black women wish their natural features look like Arab women. That's not the Kardashians fault that black women are idolizing the phenotype of Arab women.
More like Latinas
@@AngelicaEstherxo no latinas wanna be white so bad with all that blonde orange hair and swearing up and down theyre Spanish lol
Look like who?😂😂 kim kardashian and her sisters are literally trying to get the figure of an indigenous African woman. Guess you really don't know what you're talking about lol.
Black Americans are mixed what are you talkin about.
Not really. At most they’re 25% nonblack, and that’s only a small percentage mostly in New Orleans. Most average less than 10% admixture. Actually biracial/mulatto/mixed people are 50%+ nonblack with an entire nonblack half of their family and heritage. Not the same in daily experience, phenotype or genotype.
Who cares?? Not a big deal to me.
1 most Europeans (if that's what you mean by "white") have dark hair and brown eyes. Blondes with blue eyes are a minority among Whites. 2 all races have practiced colonialism and Europeans have been victims of colonialism too. The small number of European countries who colonised others began by colonising their white neighbours. England colonised Scotland, Ireland and Wales. France colonised Brittany and Corsica. Spain colonised the Basque country and Catalonia. The Arabs colonised Spain and Ottoman Turkey colonised Greece and southeastern Europe
My last two boyfriends have cheated on me and left me for Latina women. I feel like white women are not as desirable to todays younger generation as people think. Being fetishized can be a privilege. Just means you’re wanted. I wish I was wanted by more men.
They are to black men.
Beck Blanchard I can be one of those men.
😭 It's the thirst for me 😭
Being fetishized isn't being wanted to be loved, or cared for, for yourself as a person but as a thing to be used. Fetishists are not simply people with a preference. They don't ever consider the whole person, because they're often operating from a place of stereotypes and wishful thinking. In some communities it's worse because they run to their fetish because they're running from deep self hate and personal accountability. I've seen it my whole life in every community. White women are still most sought IMO, you just have to figure out your audience
@@normarndelathassologenesis2967 Sexualization does not always mean equalization, though sometimes it can. Ex: when a man w out legs is sexualized, he feels humanized, and therefore equal to everyone else. However when race and sexualization intertwine, that’s when it can get problematic and people become objectified as opposed to humanized.
All races are guilty of doing this, so we all should take it as compliments.
No
False the audacity bruh smh
This blackfishing nonsense makes no sense. I'm black and think white women should continue to "blackfish" and not worry about it. The whole idea of segregation was that white people were to snobby to participate with black people. People like Kim Kardasian are helping black women. Its creating more white fans and elevating darker skinned women including black womens in the global standard of beauty. And she is not stealing " a job" from a black women. If they didn't include aspects from other cultures they still would profit of being "just white" showcasing "white people" just the same with the only deference there being less "people of color" culture in the media. White supremists are very unhappy with Kim Kardasian.
How is Kim Kardashian ‘helping’ BW or elevating dark skin? You’re probably a BM making this dumb comment. You guys truly are the weakest links.
Please stop ✋🏾 black fishing never elevates black women especially dark skin black women. In fact black people never actually benefit from there culture being exploited. White people get to infiltrate, be “ambiguous” and amass twice the following and prestige of the black counterparts they imitate. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Rather it’s beauty, dating, etc. black people aren’t systemically being placed above - particularly black women.
@@laurieswanderingmind black women aren’t getting “elevated”, it’s just other pulling from the community while ignoring the source.
You must be a Black Man if you think that "white women should continue to "blackfish" and not worry about it.
Well you would, wouldn't you?
It'd be totally different if White Men were doing it of course.
@@nerdfantasyxox 😂🤣 The source would be ignored anyway she and "black fishing non-blacks " are helping it be "less" ignored. 🤦🏽♂🤦🏽♂🤦🏽♂
"Multi-racial black" is a oxymoron. You can't be monoraicial and multi racial at the same time. Another thing to mention is that biracial doesn't automatically equal black and white. It means being two races or more. One last thing is that Latino or Hispanic isn't nor is an ethnicity. There's white Latinos and Hispanics. If you to consider Spainyards Hispanic, and what continent is Spain in? Honestly race isn't something that won't ever go away, because you people can't stop talking about it
your comment should be a topic on tiktok because they love to segregate and racially bully people on there