Not for nothing but a side by side of both players perspectives would be amazing. Getting some insight on their thought processes at each interaction/engagement would be super educational for this hero.
Necros is only good with blades, but shadder is better with everything but okay on blades, shadder has better mechanics, positioning and game sense, also his play style is not about dominating but more about what the team benefits more, like pressuring the back line and support rather than dueling the dps and focusing them.
This is so true, necros overextends in so many instances it actually hurts to watch. Also shadder is just better at genji in general necros just has some very cracked blades
2 players very good on Genji I think Necros a more potential in 1vs1 and is pretty fast with blade But Shadder don’t always needs nano, and create more space and apply presure for character having a bad placement
As someone who religiously watches both of these players, and plays genji religiously, Necros is better, but is overall more aggresive and goes for more flashy plays Shadder Plays more smart and plays to win ; seems to have better game sense. Still very very good but not as mechanical as Necros. I think if they faced each other in 100 matches, it would probably be 52 Necros 48 Shadder ; close as hell either way.
They played 1v1 and are quite equal in the past (now I think Necros it's better). But now the thing is: - Necros has better mechanics ,nanoblades and he's really dangerous opponent in 1v1. - Shadder has better game sensitive: positioning, making space and preassure, he helps his team when it's necessary and do very well without nanoblades. I like both of them and I always watch both of their videos. But if I have to choose, I prefer Shadder. He was (and is) a pro player and even after his injury, he demonstratet how good he can be, even without nanoblades.
@@alecmacdonald8814 yeah I mean i also haven't seen that much of shadder yet but judging by the videos i've seen so far he seems just slightly behind necros in terms of skill.
@@Salzfrog in ow1 when these 2 were at their prime shadder was better. maybe necroz is now better but I also think necroz is better at making openings for good blades
@@gambeano yeah well i only know them since ow2 tbh so I cant argue with that one but if were talking about the here and now in ow 2 necros just better, there is no denying in that. But i love both and they are very talented in the game
I'm actually losing my mind, does anyone know the song playing in the background in the second half of the video? You can hear it semi-clearly at 5:44 and a bit later as well
Versed a guy last night playing tank and he had a aim bot. He wasn’t even hiding it and said it was undetected so far by blizzard. His aim was locking instantly to peoples heads.
@@cooltron I meant at release before pro play was thing he showed animation cancel melee and dash reset stuff before anyone. He really wasn't that good as a pro tho unfortunately
Youbmight not agree but its a fact Shadder2k is overall the better player He plays smarter is more percise and if compare them he probably has more value for the team BUT! Necros is the fastest Genji Hes not as smart and percise but hes fast, which makes his gameplay look so clean Still both goated
Anyway, necros is a stronger genji god, because he, playing on one character, was always among the top 500 players on any accounts, and shadder2k, in addition to Genji, often used Mccree, doomfist, sombra or soldier to hold his positions
Actually, shadder did a rank 1 Genji only before, not to mention he basically never fell below Top 200 and was the number one ranked Genji 4 season in a row before quitting. Rank is still a joke and in no way a reliable quantifier for skill, at least not for the top players, there's much more nuanced factors at play.
Are you not up to date on the hack Change? Look it up, Now Hack Duration is like 2 Seconds, but the "Hack" effect Remains, and it lets Sombra do Double Damage on you basically. Anyone who is hacked, The first 2 Seconds Disables your Abilities and passives, but you then Recover but Remain hacked for like 3 more seconds so she can Damage you hard. but that's it
@@chainsmoker7390 I'm aware thanks. He used his dash get canceled by hack midair (check frame by frame the animation of the genji) . So Technically his ability was used and has to be in cooldown for 8 sec. and 6sec remaining after this hack. Shouldnt be able to use it on Zen right after.
There both good in two different aspects think necros the best for sure but shudder a prodigy and plays with his team a little more comm wise I don't watch either of them enough to give a full conclusion gameplay wise I like necros more personality wise shadder takes the cake
Ya se me hacía raro el pick-rate tan alto de ese kbron... su disparo secundario es más efectivo que las escopetas de Reaper y se mueve más rápido. Pensé que esos Genji Mains se habían vuelto "buenos" de golpe, pero en verdad es un "Balance" de héroe el que está detras de todos esos weyes.
Nope. Shadder was rank 1 many times and always holds over Top 100 in any season's leaderboards, meanwhile Necros one tricks Genji and still can't do shit without nanoblade.
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Love how good dps is OW2. It's so fun watching good players overtake games and not having it be entirely comp/ult based.
huh? it is ult based still lol these ults still turn the tide of the battle completely.
It is still ult based lol.
It feels like nothing dies bro dps feels useless to me you get someone one shot and 1 second later their back to full.
@@Notallmightyy that's why you eliminate the healers immediately or the tank that dives recklessly. The team falls apart pretty quick
@@hioxd yeah bro but for some reason it feels way harder to do in overwatch 2 I never had this issue in overwatch 1.
Not for nothing but a side by side of both players perspectives would be amazing. Getting some insight on their thought processes at each interaction/engagement would be super educational for this hero.
I was thinking the same thing
Necros is only good with blades, but shadder is better with everything but okay on blades, shadder has better mechanics, positioning and game sense, also his play style is not about dominating but more about what the team benefits more, like pressuring the back line and support rather than dueling the dps and focusing them.
Could not of said it better! Don't get me wrong they are both amazing but Shadder just overall is better
That is why he gets diffed by necros in a 1v1?
Better using Mechanics >>> Necros
Better using Brain >>> Shadder2k
its more complicated than that. necros has worse shuriken aim than shadder but as far as quicker blade value, definitely necros
@@dessertiwnl ur tweakin necros has better aim
@@A1_Antwan ... No.
@@TheT3nTH go watch a shadder2k highlight then watch a necros highlight then yo blind ass will hopefully see the skill difference in every aspect
This is so true, necros overextends in so many instances it actually hurts to watch. Also shadder is just better at genji in general necros just has some very cracked blades
From what I can see Necros looks better mechanically on Genji but Shadder has better positioning/spacing and does well without an Anna ult
thats what I'm sayin
lets not forget necros had a mercy up his ass this entire game
Shadder is actually nice without blade. It's actually insane.
I guess history really does repeat itself
I learned everything I know about playing genji from these guys ... my boys nice
2 players very good on Genji
I think Necros a more potential in 1vs1 and is pretty fast with blade
But Shadder don’t always needs nano, and create more space and apply presure for character having a bad placement
necros is subpar at everything except nano blade. im not saying he sucks, but id take just about any other genji main for a more balanced player.
@@YootubeSucksDip necros has better aim than shadder as well. you are smokin crack
You lads should remember Shadder took a long break due to his wrist injury so he might not be at his peak rn :)
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yeah also he had to learn how to arm aim since he still has wrist pain
Sombra is a buzzkill to this legendary dual
As someone who religiously watches both of these players, and plays genji religiously,
Necros is better, but is overall more aggresive and goes for more flashy plays
Shadder Plays more smart and plays to win ; seems to have better game sense. Still very very good but not as mechanical as Necros.
I think if they faced each other in 100 matches, it would probably be 52 Necros 48 Shadder ; close as hell either way.
They played 1v1 and are quite equal in the past (now I think Necros it's better). But now the thing is:
- Necros has better mechanics ,nanoblades and he's really dangerous opponent in 1v1.
- Shadder has better game sensitive: positioning, making space and preassure, he helps his team when it's necessary and do very well without nanoblades.
I like both of them and I always watch both of their videos. But if I have to choose, I prefer Shadder. He was (and is) a pro player and even after his injury, he demonstratet how good he can be, even without nanoblades.
1:21 how did he get 2 shift without killing someone
sojourn kill assist from 1:18, that timing is super close to instant shifts
@@munasirr2870 oh wow the details of high lvl gameplay is amazing
Also, why are the frames weird when genji throws his stars?
thought I was the only one
Can you share your crosshair settings?
SHADDER2K The GOAT Genji 🔥
I love shadder on genji bro a god
Shadder > Necros. Still like them both tho
More like Necros > Shadder
Shadder is 100 times better
@@KKaseo lmao naaah
@@KKaseo bro just look at the play of the game. Necros always the highlight he's just faster his movement is unbeatable
Shadder water sb 100 times better than necros thats all
i think shadder is a better genji overall but necros blades are way better
Necros the better genji, his movement is way better as well as his positioning and aim. Even tho only by a little bit
@@Salzfrog I could see that. I need to watch more shadder honestly I’m a huge necros fan
@@alecmacdonald8814 yeah I mean i also haven't seen that much of shadder yet but judging by the videos i've seen so far he seems just slightly behind necros in terms of skill.
@@Salzfrog in ow1 when these 2 were at their prime shadder was better. maybe necroz is now better but I also think necroz is better at making openings for good blades
@@gambeano yeah well i only know them since ow2 tbh so I cant argue with that one but if were talking about the here and now in ow 2 necros just better, there is no denying in that. But i love both and they are very talented in the game
1:19 Why he has 2 dash there without killing anyone
i'm confused
Maybe this I a bit late but 1:18 he hit sojourn and she got killed
How did Lucio respawned in like 4 seconds at the end?? He got killed at 10:35 and ulted at 10:43
10 sec respawn + crazy roll-out tech
Push has the old 2cp insta respawns when a capture point is updated.
Y’all gotta remember Shadowburn as well man! Spiciest primary fire Genji and crazy ass raw dragon blades 😮
what is his crosshair settings
I'm actually losing my mind, does anyone know the song playing in the background in the second half of the video? You can hear it semi-clearly at 5:44 and a bit later as well
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Moral of the story: Be a decent dps with a dedicated healer
necros is amazing but shadder is def the genji god
no
Versed a guy last night playing tank and he had a aim bot. He wasn’t even hiding it and said it was undetected so far by blizzard. His aim was locking instantly to peoples heads.
shadder will always be the goat
Why deflect the monkey ?
Shadder2k has strong comprehensive strength and team spirit
was good match, i miss when seagull plays genji like a pro
Seagull wasn't even close to any of these guys in terms of a good Genji. The top were always shadowburn, necros and shadder
@@cooltron water
@@cooltron gotta give props to seagull tho he showed the potential of genji when ow released
@@MysticKrabs I don't believe he was the first to play genji on a pro level. I believe it was shadowburn.
@@cooltron I meant at release before pro play was thing he showed animation cancel melee and dash reset stuff before anyone. He really wasn't that good as a pro tho unfortunately
Of course Shadder win even with the enemy sombra supporting necros
Youbmight not agree but its a fact
Shadder2k is overall the better player
He plays smarter is more percise and if compare them he probably has more value for the team
BUT! Necros is the fastest Genji
Hes not as smart and percise but hes fast, which makes his gameplay look so clean
Still both goated
7:22 "BITCH"
Where Does It Show Your Rank Like In Overwatch 1 Sorry I’m new to the game
There're no ranks any more, only battlepass levels. If you played ow1 you can see your old rank on profile page.
So I Can Jump In A Game And Go Against Skilled Grand Masters
1:20 how did genji get dash ready without a kill after dashing?
Assist on the soujourn reset his cooldown.
@@halogalaxy5612 Assist also reset cooldown? damn i missed lot of OW1 update....
@@MrNuwbies it always worked like this
ANY takedowns reset genji's dash, not just kills
better genji won, diffed, stepped on them and destroyed everyone. No question about it.
@@witbyy salty. the stats speak for themselves. necros also had a winston on his team. shadder is just THAT guy.
What do you guys think about Haksal? Genuinely curious cuz he was considered the GOAT before. Still good or have they overtaken him?
@@wavedash600 can’t forget about water
Bruh shadder lost twice in a row to necros after this so yea its genji diff ig
@@wavedash600 haksal and any other owl genji is leagues above both of these players
Anyway, necros is a stronger genji god, because he, playing on one character, was always among the top 500 players on any accounts, and shadder2k, in addition to Genji, often used Mccree, doomfist, sombra or soldier to hold his positions
Actually, shadder did a rank 1 Genji only before, not to mention he basically never fell below Top 200 and was the number one ranked Genji 4 season in a row before quitting. Rank is still a joke and in no way a reliable quantifier for skill, at least not for the top players, there's much more nuanced factors at play.
You are Best player
Absolutely hate sombra with my whole being. Most broken character in the game by far.
this video about to blow up
Shadder is just better at the game. And dont need nano to make space. Necros is just a nanobot.
How do u type so quickly :/
Genji diff
6:20 ??
yup, and look 6:30 Dash got canceld by hack, and he can still relaunch it on zen completly broken character
They are both very good genjis I'm sure that in a real 1v1 they will more struggle than now and maybe Necros would win but idk
There's already a video of them 1v1ing each other, they were basically equal.
Really? Thank you
6:30 get hacked and cancel during dash, but can dash again on zen instant after dafuq ?
Are you not up to date on the hack Change? Look it up, Now Hack Duration is like 2 Seconds, but the "Hack" effect Remains, and it lets Sombra do Double Damage on you basically. Anyone who is hacked, The first 2 Seconds Disables your Abilities and passives, but you then Recover but Remain hacked for like 3 more seconds so she can Damage you hard. but that's it
@@chainsmoker7390 I'm aware thanks. He used his dash get canceled by hack midair (check frame by frame the animation of the genji) . So Technically his ability was used and has to be in cooldown for 8 sec. and 6sec remaining after this hack. Shouldnt be able to use it on Zen right after.
There both good in two different aspects think necros the best for sure but shudder a prodigy and plays with his team a little more comm wise I don't watch either of them enough to give a full conclusion gameplay wise I like necros more personality wise shadder takes the cake
necros >>> mechanics
shadder>>> i would say equal aim but better sense of surrounding and knowing his limits
shadder diff
I feel like necros is more consistent
personal critique, Necros merked Shadder on the 1 on 1
Man this game is jumping simulator
necros is good.. but let's be real.. it's shadder bro... lol
Ya se me hacía raro el pick-rate tan alto de ese kbron... su disparo secundario es más efectivo que las escopetas de Reaper y se mueve más rápido. Pensé que esos Genji Mains se habían vuelto "buenos" de golpe, pero en verdad es un "Balance" de héroe el que está detras de todos esos weyes.
Genji no ha cambiado desde OW1, es más que todo el estilo de juego y el pasivo de dps lo que lo hacen meta
game very powercrept. Instead of fixing broken heroes, they went in with "make everyone broken, then no one is." makes a 2k a huge pop off.
I've played with and against nekros a few times. Great team mate. Easy to kill tho cause of his team.
necros only good when team plays around him
primero
thanks my dude
Necros
Guys genji doesnt take skill we need to nerf him. playable for 1 month after 5 years of useless is too much. goodbye
Necros' the better genji but both are incredible
Necros the better genji, shadder the better OW player
Better at losing.
Nope. Shadder was rank 1 many times and always holds over Top 100 in any season's leaderboards, meanwhile Necros one tricks Genji and still can't do shit without nanoblade.
Necros is way better
Necros is a Beast