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My New GG1 Locomotives From Ebay Arrived! Unboxing & Test
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- I was browsing Ebay a few weeks ago and stumbled across this lot of two GG1 locomotives. They were being sold for a price which I thought was pretty good so I decided to order them. The seller didn't say much about the condition of these locos so I wasn't sure what to expect. Surprisingly one of them runs almost perfectly, the other one by Rivarossi didn't seem to start however I'm confident that with a little work it will be riding the rails again. I'm overall pretty pleased with this lot.
Sorry for the extremely long comment, but there aren’t many men left who operated GG-1’s.
While you have fun with GG-1 model railroading. Which is admirable. I was lucky to have operated GG-1 locomotives. From March 1974 to July of 1976 as a Firearm and from July 1976 until their retirement in1983 on NJTRO as a Locomotive Engineer. I Operated the GG-1s as Locomotive Engineer and as a Firearm,on the North East Corridor from Sunny Side yard in Queens NYC to Penn Station NYC on to Union Station Washington DC. or to Harrisburg PA and also to South Amboy NJ. These Locomotives were a pleasure to operate.you had to really pay attention to throttle positions,speed and amperage draw. There are 21 throttle positions. You had to come out one notch at a time on the throttle. You could only draw a limited amount of amperage 800 to 1,200 amperes until you got to 15 mph. When the AC Traction Motors would engage. There are rubber padded tickler motors that got the locomotive going until you hit around 15 mph. Then you couldn’t go over a certain amount of amperage,2,100 amperes while using the sanders. Let me put it this way. If you didn’t know how to use the throttle, in conjunction with the speed and amperage in a certain order. You would trip out the pantograph relay. Which had a specific procedure to reset it. It took a few months of training to learn how to fully operate the GG-1. It was used in Passenger and Freight. When the Self Propelled Multiple Unit BUD Metroliner cars were being retired. (These Self Propelled Metroliners were fun to operate but were extremely unreliable). The GG-1 was used in their place briefly in Metroliner Service in the mid 1970’s when the Amfleet cars started being put in service. Until its replacement, the AEM-7 Locomotives were being built and put into service.
On the early Amfleet Metroliners, you would have a GG-1, a mail car converted to Head End Power, to provide Electricity to the 3 to 5 Amfleet Coaches. This Locomotive would go 100MPH and more with ease. The speed indicator maximum is 100MPH. If you lost any time and started running late. I would have the speed indicator buried on tracks where maximum speed was 120MPH. During this time. If the Metroliner was more than 5 minutes late at its final destination. The passengers would be refunded their money and rode for free. You had to get the train up to maximum speed as fast as possible, brake for speed restrictions at the last possible second then get the train right back up to maximum speed at all times. (When the AEM-7’s were finally put in service. It was a lot easier to be on time. They were allowed maximum speed of 125MPH have electro pneumatic braking. That holds the brakes on electrically while charging the Air Brake System, then allows instant brake release. Works great for slowing down for speed restrictions. The AEM-7’s also had Dynamic Braking that help when going down steep grades. Especially when going downgrade in the tunnels.) Back to the GG-1,Along with the 12 drivers and 8 trolleys. It rode really smooth at 100MPH plus. The GG-1 was the most reliable Locomotive I’ve ever operated. I never had one break down on any of the many Passenger and Freight Trains that I operated pulling these trains. Two GG-1’s were used regularly on Timetable Scheduled Freight Train Numbers TV23 and TV24. These are Truck Trains and generally Two GG-1’s were used to pull these until Conrail retired them. The few times I operated the TV23 & TV24 Freight Trains in the late 1970’s. I remember having over 100 TTX Cars that each held a tractors trailer, trailer. These Locomotives would easily pull these Truck Trains and easily get up to their maximum speed of 60MPH. When pulling conventional old school passenger coaches. One GG-1 would easily pull 14 coaches and get them up to 80 MPH with ease. They had a Steam Generator that would easily produce 150lbs of Steam Pressure in the cold weather to provide heat for the coaches. Two GG-1’s would easily pull Amtraks long distance trains at 80 MPH that would sometimes(during certain holidays) have up to 25 coaches, including a baggage coach and usually a few Mail coaches. I once pulled the Ringling Brothers,Barnum Bailey Circus Train from Sunny Side Yard ,Queens NYC to 30TH Street Station Pennsylvania. I don’t remember how many coaches in total there were. I do remember it was temporarily stored on two LIRR freight Tracks that were parallel with the running tracks leading out of Sunny Side Yard to the East River Tunnels. My guess is there had to be at least 40 coaches. With two GG-1’s it pulled the Circus Train up to its maximum speed of 80MPH with ease.
As I’m getting older, I’m starting to forget many aspects of the GG-1. That at one time I basically knew every inch of this locomotive. If you would like to know what was involved with operating this Locomotive. Let me know and I’ll gladly provide any information that I can.
The GG1 has always been one of my favorite locomotives of all time. I've got several by IHC (i think) that my dad bought me when he found them in a PRR Christmas starter set. He got to see them flying through his home towns of Darby, Colwyn, and South Philadelphia growing up and well into his working years.(he just turned 73). The GG1 is the 1 locomotive we both love above all others. Frequently visit the preserved samples and he loves to reminisce seeing them pass by.
Great video!
Excellent haul Harrison.
Looks like you've got your GG1 livery bases covered with just needing a bloody nose Amtrak, a Conrail black dip and an American Railroad Association (IIRC) light blue.
One last thing though as you make this old trucker/ warehouseman cringe just a little opening boxes so if I might offer a bit of advice for near certain every time damage free opening.
Slit the side tape first then lift the flaps so you've got a bit of tent shape and then slit the top tape.
Done that way your blade never actually penetrates the actual interior area of the box.
Being a Philadelphian GG-! was my favorite loco of all time....outlasted their replacements...could handle 10 passenger cars at 100+mph
My favorite, too
I just know these locomotives as “the train that crashed into a basement.”
I’m the same lol
@@Gurgenshlurgen2024 presidential express 53
I have seen the locomotive that fell into the basement, its not really in good shape right now
Crew: what should we do?!?!
Me: leave it in the basement
Crew: {leaves it in the basement}
Me: I WAS JOKING
@Paul Mishler yeah it’s such a shame. She really needs some attention.
Hey SMT, I wanted to let you know what that Tuscan red GG1 was. That is by IHC. As you can see it is numbered 4910. I actually have the exact same one and I got it in a train set. From my knowledge they were only sold in train sets. They have 2, 5 pull motors and wiegh close to 2 pounds. They can pull around 30 cars.
wow i have one too and didnt know that
IHC/Mehano GG1s are the best bang for your buck! I have eight of them and they were extremely easy to convert to dcc. You can buy them individually but make sure it's the one that comes in the purple box, the ones that come in the tan box don't have the dual motors.
GG-1s are Truly things of beauty and were revolutionary for their time
I hope you can get the green one running that a beautiful locomotive
Nice Harrison. I'm looking for a GG1 to make a Little Joe. Keep up the good work.
Wow. Now you have three GG1's. Nice Video SMT.
Beautiful locos, and at a cheap price!!! I will be excited to see the Brunswick green one run! Thanks for the content.
Normally glossy paint makes models toylike but these are just complimented by it, great looking models
Smt you need to get some PRR cars for these gg1’s to pull around.
u can use freight 2
The red was for passenger the green for fright
@@trs-no8lm Yes, but originally all were green, only 6 were ever painted red - more or less as experiment.
Those 2 GG1 locomotives do have beautiful paint scenes the green and Ruskin red . also I agree with you them 3 pole Rivarossi motors are awesome. I love the dockside that i got . the one I showed you and Garrett and made a video about. Very smooth running locomotives. I don't think the gg1 type itself went in Connecticut but they are unique looking Cool find!
Although John Ruskin was a great painter, it is Tuscan Red, after Tuscany, a region of Italy. I think it comes from the red roofing tiles used in Tuscany. The clay used must contain oxides of iron to create the red color
Awesome! Can’t wait to see them running on livestream
Now you need Pennsylvania passenger cars to go with those gg1s
I don’t know if he has some
@@MattKonsol if he doesn't have any he better buy some
James Snyder lol 😂 I must agree with that bud
The tuscan red is an ihc it should have 2 can motors with flywheels and there should be a switch inside that you can flip to pick up power on the pantographs for power. They ran so much better then the rivarossi's and the pemco but the ihc models are the old pemco molds just really improved
wow you own a lot of gg1s. can you do a tutorial on how to solder track?
Yup the brown one is from Mehano, i have the same model, two motors, very smooth and enough spece n the shell to put a decoder, interior cabin lights and directional white/red lights on both sides.
Awesome find.
It’s a bundle of joy
The trains looks beautiful ( in British accent )
Tuscan red one is definitely an IHC/Mehano. My favorite brand for an HO scale GG1. Can you usually find them for around 50 bucks and the ones that come in the purple box are all wheel drive and have two motors with large flywheels and are very easy to convert to DCC.
IHC>Rivarossi>Pemco.
Sweet. I have 2 vintage Alco c628s. 1 runs and has colored directional lights but only goes a few feet before the motor spins but doesnt go anywhere unless you push it or have it doubled with another loco. It is a stewards hobbies build yourself model. The other not sure of the make but it is now a dummy casue when i went to run it, the motor ripped itself out.
Not a bad deal for those GG1s!
Wow what a score that is really good for 2 GG1s I'm surprised someone was selling for that price...
Good job, I just got an am-track gg1 too by rivarossi, just for 10 american dollars in the box and running. Once they run they are fine looking trains. I also sent you an ebay link to a Hershey locomotive.
I think I know why that IHC one has a lean to it. Mine was the same when I got it. Ran super smooth, but leaned to one side like that. The problem was the plastic tabs on the frame that support the body are not very sturdy and one of them had broken off. If it's still laying around inside the motor compartment (which was luckily the case with mine), a bit of super glue and a day of cure time can fix it right up. If it's not still there, it probably wouldn't be too difficult to put some kind of alternative support under the frame for it just behind the truck tower. (basically just use a bit of bass wood or plastic to make a bar to go under the frame and support the body while allowing the truck to slide on it during turns. I've put some thought into this just in case the glue joint on mine snaps off again, lol
From what I've seen so far though, these (IHC GG1 Premier) are fantastic runners. Probably one of the best performers I have. I also couldn't believe how heavy it was, it's like couple lbs.! My only complaint is the above mentioned truck supports, and the wire connecting the shell to the chassis that allows current pickup from the pantographs. I clipped mine and will just install a plug for it later if I ever have live catenary. But other than those things, they're awesome!
Wow that green one looks nice cant weght to see it run again
Great video! Those GG1's look really good. You got a pretty good deal on them
I bought a rivverosi gg1 at a hobby shop for $45! I’m in USA and this thing works great!
Very cool trains
I think you got a great deal! The green GG1 is beautiful in my opinion.
Mehano is great quality. It was good quality back in the late 80s and is still a company today :-)
Throw Away The Tycos, Because we got us some rivrossis!
Those gg1 looks amazing and beautiful bud! I might try to find a n scale GG one someday.
Those are really nice engines. Thanks for sharing.
Smt has a handful of gg1 know that i think about. First the tyco many tyco gg1, the penco , then the one Charles gave and the one that was new and box, and this twins. And possible more
SMT: Dosent expect even for one of the GG1s to run...
*One train runs*
SMT: O-O
A meme now
Oh boy, you really got your work cut out for you. Now you need to install overhead lines hehehehe. GG1 never ran as an A-A set. They usually ran alone as their overhead power lines allowed for over 5000 hp.
GG1s were often paired together or even triple headed, especially in freight service but I've also seen many pictures of two GG1s pulling passenger trains.
@@joeynova3550 wow, that's news to me.
PRR Green GG1 looks to be a custom paint job judging by the glossiness of the unit and the stripes look like decals. Also, a note about your dummy GG1: many manufactures used ink pad printing for lettering, numbers, and other things such as stripes. I suspect the ink on the stripes as faded due to age and deterioration of the ink. Mater of fact, it may have at one time looked crisp as the PRR Tuscan Red GG1 that you just acquired.
I would love to see a video focused on restoring the Marklin 0-6-0 which you bought from Etsy a few weeks ago.
Nice locomotives SMT! Hope you get the green one running soon!
#4910 was built by PRR's Altoona Shops....OH! You meant the model! I think it's IHC, as they offered a Tuscan Red #4910. So did Atlas, but I don't see anyone selling an Atlas loco that cheaply.
Love these locomotives 🚂
GG1: I'm not a runner!!!
SMT: Wanna bet??? Wait until I take YOU apart and fix you!!!
Gotta say green isn’t really my favorite on the gg1 only gotta love the black and Tuscan and silver
Gg1 fans : .....
gg1: goes light locomotive
Gg1 fans: intensifies
Gg1: pulls a passenger train
Gg1 fans: Intensifies more
Gg1: pulls pass her train double headed
Gg1 fans: intensifies even more
Gg1: pulls a train double headed today
Gg1 fans: it’s over 9000!!!
GG1 Looks Awesome!
I wish I had a gg1... I'm planning to get a riv in Amtrak black
Never seen those before. Nice.
Awsome love those GG1 :P
There so nice looking I don’t have 1 but I get enjoyment out of SMTs
Very nice work
i hope you will ennjoy your CC1 i have three of them for about 5 years. can be a pain to get on the tracks put thet are worth it
Why won't you do a GG1 running session? You got a lot of GG1s in your collection.
*This is a certified PRR/NJT foamer moment*
I went to the Pennsylvania railroad museum and saw a GG1 i’m pretty sure it was the red one
nice GG1 also i love your vids
Very nice !!
Nice! Looks Really Good, Any Sellers You Recommend On Ebay? Im Lookin To Get Myself Into the Hobby Again
Drunk Bugs Bunny .......I look for sellers that sell trains and have been track tested. Also look for positive feedback anything close to 100%. Most model sellers will have pics on their layout or a test track. Beware of sellers who sell anything and everything. When I got started I made the mistake of buying from sellers who bought a big lot from estate sales and listed as new old stock. Only made that mistake twice. Good luck
My favorite electric locomotive
It looked to me that the Pemco, that you made into a dummy unit, had some wobble to it. I acquired a Pemco recently and mine wobbles. I think the Rivarossi wheels are a better quality and thinking of replacing the drive wheels on my Pemco. Also, I totally agree with you that the Rivarossi GG1 is more accurate to the Tuscan Red color.
Those PRR GG1s are in two paintings
When are you going to restore the Amtrak one from the unboxing video?
SMT is gonna have to make overhead powerlines now...
The green Pennsylvania gg1 remind me at the post-war dark green Pennsylvania gg1 don't have it but it reminds me of
Great video as always SMT. Are we ever going to see more of the Lionel layout?
great lookers
Hey SMT if you see this, could you please buy a Southern Pacific 0-6-0, the number is 1274. If your wondering why it was my very first steam locomotive in Ho scale, but it’s broken. I would be so happy and nostalgic if you do. Thank you, also if you do buy it could you make a video of it.
my freind has one of those donsent move needs tracsoin tiers
I got a Bachman spectrum Pennsylvania K-4 steam loco with 2 passenger cars for $75 U.S. dollars Free shipping
I'll buy both
One thing I have noticed is trains on Ebay have higher than normal prices compared to say last year.
Awesomlocomotivesgoodjob
Yay can you run them via pantograph?
SMT did you know that the gg1s name came from the 2-6-0 and second 2-6-0 chassis that were classified G by the PRR
Mehano made the GG1s and other locos for IHC
The red one might be an old life like model
Cool!
I have a Mehano Tuscan GG1 that looks just like that one.
Cool cideo
Video I mean sorry
Maybe you should add a trolley line and Main Street
Is the green G custom? I don't remember a green G like that
they may have been freight geared...remember seeing a double headed green pulling a long freight
@@teddawg327 no, not irl, as a model. I don't remember rivarossi making one in that green color
It's custom painted, the original ones were much darker green.
in like 2 days he went from having infinitely less then me to 1 more then me
Nice
Simply.
Nice
It’s actually made by Bachmann to
Do either of your logos have Kadee coupler on them? Did you install a couplers yourself? If they don’t Have Kadee Couplers, are you going to install some on these logos? If so, let me know how you did it.
I believe they need longshank couplers.
would a double header work with them
or triple header
You need to get New Haven GG1
I dare he can get a undeceorated one And painted into new haven.
@Kenneth Sooley yeah I see sorry and yes I believe they used e33 rectifiers. I don’t know for sure.
@Kenneth Sooley Thanks for the info🙃
There are only 2 model railway companies in Slovenija mehano and moko (witch only makes Slovenija railways models)
Just bought an IHC GG-1 (Conrail) Looks almost new, but it does not run. It just hums. Any suggestion about how to mend it?
If its making a humming noise it's likely jammed. The oil could be dry or there could be something stuck in the gear box.
But can’t believe I’m here so early
Well at least neither is 4876 and the Brunswick Green GG1 4935 the real engine is named Black Jack.
Does Prr GG1 4876 exict in ho scale?
A new GG1.😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯
"Well fokes"
Your my favorite youtuber and I'm doing my own layout and soon my own channel called Jon of the rails. From Jon m (Anna's son)
How's nerf cat doing, also how old is he?
A motor burned out and you didn't replace it, Pemco motors are reasonably easy to replace
It isn't so much the task at hand as it is finding parts cheap enough to make it worth it.
Noice