There was a Morrowind developer interview a few years back where Michael Kirkbride said that he did the same thing with Todd Howard. He said that he would design two versions of some monsters; first a "weird" version that he actually wanted in the game, and then a "fucking crazy" version. He showed the "fucking crazy" version to Todd first, knowing that it would be rejected, then he'd go back to his office and pretend to be drawing a new version but he'd actually just be coming back with the original "weird" version.
@@yewtewbstew547 reminds me a way of some soviet directors to avoid censorship, one of them made a comedy movie, and in the end there was a footage of nuclear explosions, he fought for keeping it in the movie and "caved in" only after much pleading from censorship committee, that allowed him to keep all other joke's and slight pokes at the government in the film))
At the very end of the video, Cody actually puts out a very good question: Why is it called “Uprising”? Who is doing the uprising? What is the uprising? With how the plot goes, it doesn’t really make any sense!
35:15 Yo, Jack, bro, I have never heard you make anything close to that noise before, dawg 😂😂 Completely warranted, tho. My mouth was agape the entire time listening to that Del Toro pitch the first time, hahaha!
Ah yes, two of my favorite things in one video: Jack giggling like a goober whenever something funny happens Him slowly becoming more and more frustrated with what he’s witnessing to the point he explodes with passionate anger
And then they made the Pacific Rim anime, which was actually really good and I really enjoyed it!! It’s definitely set in an alternate reality but it’s still cool.
19:03 ok but where did he got the brains from? they berely got one earlier and now there is thousand, I'm don't think that many kaijus went through a rift in a first place
My idea for a secuel was to have Jaeger from different countries fighting in wars, like, now that there's no more alien menaces we get to fight each other with our new toys, then aliens come back stronger and we have to unite to defeat them in a huge battle in which a lot of different jeagers of different countries fight. Reminding you in the first movie the rest of the world gave up and proceeded to build a 'uge wall, so in my mind it would have made sense to NOW have the countries of the pacific to cooperate (thinking that they would have made more jaegers by that point so that would not be a problem). It could have been a little deeper with some political storytelling, while maintaining the action at the climax.
The aliens could also come out of the atlantic, so we could get European, African, and South American Jaegers. Call it Atlanti- I mean Pacific Rim: the Atlantic Rift.
@ArcologyCrab-gq9ub yeah they could be coming from everywhere, like at the end of the first we didn't defeat them, we just pissed them off, which makes sense, for a multidimensional species to be defeated by a tiny nuke makes no sense. It could be Pacific Rim: World War Kaiju
Going off that ending scene, Del Toro certainly has an imagination. XD To be fair, this was most likely a very early idea that wouldn't have made it into the movie in the first place. The description seems way too slapped together to be an actual plot summary. But yeah, not exactly the best sequel. I don't hate it as much as I did back then, but it's still not good. Also, apparently Del Toro wanted a crossover with the Legendary Godzilla...that would have been interesting.
Imagine being handed the reigns to a kingdom, and the previous king says "I trust and respect your vision... But don't copy me." AND YOU JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. I do not envy anyone who has to follow a great director because YOU WILL FAIL 99.99% of the time. Basically every remake supports this, the only exceptions being studios that can pump out an infinite amount of money into anything even if it fails (I'm a fan of all three Spider-Man series, but you can see by the fact there's multiple attempts at making a series before they managed to intertwine their wants with the overall story they were building at the time. They did a good job with No Way Home, but where do they go from here? Probably nowhere and they reboot AGAIN)
You gotta love that the one thing they did right, the kaiju drones and the 20 or so kaiju brought through the rifts, is the thing that they immediately shoot in the knee and kill.
The director of this didn't get the last movie. One example is how the director of the first said he made the Jagers slow and clunky to better sell their size and weight; the director said he disliked how slow they were. As a result, often, the Jagers in this feel much lighter and smaller than they are supposed to be.
I swear Del Toro is the type of creator who is meant to be making one thing then move on to the next. He is never meant to make a sequel to anything. This is really shows when he was chosen for the Hobbit movie where he said he can only make one movie much of the chagrin of the studio wanting 3 till they have to get Peter Jackson again.
Hey, chill guy. there's a post credit scene in the Pointless Hub video/s. Marvel should hard-wire us more to wait for the post credit scenes. XD Love your videos and your commentary. On a personal level, as someone who watched this movie when it first came out, I kinda enjoyed it (put down the pitchforks, people). Till this day I always forget the drones plotline and the ceo. but I remember fondly the bad Jaeger's design, and ... umm .. Charlie Day's day as a wacky over-the-top insane bad guy. I laughed so much and I still find his character in PR2 memorable. For me, I like to like stuff. Except for the Borderlands movie. that one hurt me deep.
The only thing I remember about this movie was watching it with the family and a late family friend, all of us wondering why the Kaiju were even coming to Earth anyway, and said friend responding with "they came for the gas and oil" 😂 It is actually my most prominent memory of him, and thus the only thing that kept me from forgetting this movie even existed in the first place
As someone who enjoyed Trollhunters, a Netflix series Del Toro created, and hated the movie that capped off that franchise, which he co-wrote, Del Toro's weird pitch for Pacific Rim 2 seems like something he'd genuinely do.
I found out about this films existence around 3 years before its announcement because my best friends uncle is a costume designer who worked on it, so I was hyping for almost 3 years before witnessing this train wreck
33:43 I felt so alone actually liking Joss Whedon’s Justice League, especially when Zack Snyder’s version came out. It’s not a perfect movie, but after seeing what Snyder’s version looked like, I definitely appreciated it more, trimming a lot of unnecessary fat, actually making Superman feel like Superman, etc. Dude was just working with what he was given. There’s plenty of reasons to hate Whedon, but Justice League is not one of them.
Yknow, it wouldve been better if the pasific rim 2 goes like: There was a time mars habitable, the alien live there. But the alien soon realize its about to be not habitable. They decided to do some gene modification on their own so some of them can live a long long time without anything. Which later be send to another planet. So some aliens go to the next soon to be habitable and some of them go live underground of mars with limited resource, mouth to feed, etc. The aliens has power to share memories, so the knowledge is pass one to another. To make low on food problem less problematic, the old alien pass their memories and get cannibalized. And some aliens like the kaiju get inside a freezers The aliens that goes to another planet is planning to build the rift/wormhole that would connected to mars. Just to take the planet for their own. For safety check, they sends the kaiju. The end.
Wait that thing with the Precursores being future humans also mirrors Halo. In bungie cintinuity iirc the forerunners were suppose to be ancient Hyper advanced humans
I wanted to see the germans swooped in out of no where and the robot its just a gun platform for the ne and improved Gustavrailway gun with like 8 legs or 6 legs maybe 2 gunned and just be a mobile artillery peace and it would be heavy and moved like PR1 like that would be cool Yager
Hi mate, how comes you haven’t reacted to the other video by dogpack404, about mr beast, I loved your take on the first one and it’s the only legitimate unbiased reaction I can find, would love to see you react to the other one, thanks
First: Its widespread a.f term, but mechs are NOT robots! Robots have limited automatic function in form of " dumb/ specifically tasked A.I. Mechs and other mechanical vehicles like , fighter jets, helicopters have pilots. To be fair in PF2, the kaju hijacked can be classified as " robots " since they are controlled by organic A.I mind stuff. Also! The second movie should have had more weight and similar tone/ atmosphere as the first even if the first batch of kaiju were gutted.
Ngl, there was an Animated Pacific Rim and it is way more better than Boogieman Pacific Rim2. They keep using "Precursors" instead of Aliens probably because whoever made these kind of movies are Aliens in humansuit and calling em Aliens was offensive. Oh it's Del Torro? Now it make sense. 😂
Interesting... Chinese company buys studio... Mysteriously the Japanese protagonist from the first movie is given fewer scenes and killed off... How very interesting...
I'm so glad I'm on your channel and not his. IMPLYING SHREK 2 IS ANYTHING LESS THAN A MASTERPIECE?! Flame war in the comments, guaranteed. And for good reason, Shrek 2 is a masterpiece of cinema.
The battles in the new one have no impact at all there's no sense of weight for something that size and just because it's smoother doesn't make it better the jaegers dont even feel like giant robots not to mention the movie itself is just all over the place.
Just like the original the battles its what the fun part , not the story itself and the battles where better and it doesnt matter if its lore accurate in terms of weight and speed of the machines
Oh, here's a funny channel, but I would make it private. It's not worth making videos about it, but I personally have a lot of fun with it. brandon tenold
WTH. Is up with the "The Pilots are literal children" BS?! THAT'S THE POINT!!! They act reckless because they're still "Cadets in training"!!! Not fully fledged RANGERS!!! Is that hard to understand?!
@lucasgiraldo9791 what other way would one do it? Aside from showing the inexperienced trainees, by making them reckless and learn what they can possibly can within a movie 's length. It's literally in literature EXCEPT in Japanese shonen manga, where the characters become as strong as the professionals who trained for their entire lives. Tf? So a story goes in a predictable way, you groan. And when they try something new, you people STILL complain? Ew
Guys, just admit it. That you're those types of people...where you skip at the end of a YT because you don't like the middle part or the process from start to end... Wanna ask how it's related? Well, let's just say The start is "the Jaeger cadets begin their transition to Jaeger pilots/Rangers", and the end is "The cadets learn their lessons and are now fit to become Jaeger pilots/Rangers".
Oh, I have to say that too, I think it's really shit. Malean only likes the netzflix version of spriggan. It's not the original anymore. If anyone knows where I can watch it, please let me know. And yes, I mean the really old version and the legality of it is completely irrelevant to me. What is the name of the song again, welcome to the internet. ^^
Apparently Del Toro makes his scripts absolutely insane on purpose to make it seem like the more normal idea he planned seem like the producer’s idea.
I'm a Del Toro simp so I'm rolling with that
There was a Morrowind developer interview a few years back where Michael Kirkbride said that he did the same thing with Todd Howard. He said that he would design two versions of some monsters; first a "weird" version that he actually wanted in the game, and then a "fucking crazy" version. He showed the "fucking crazy" version to Todd first, knowing that it would be rejected, then he'd go back to his office and pretend to be drawing a new version but he'd actually just be coming back with the original "weird" version.
@@yewtewbstew547 Do you know if any of the "fucking crazy" designs made it in?
@@yewtewbstew547 reminds me a way of some soviet directors to avoid censorship, one of them made a comedy movie, and in the end there was a footage of nuclear explosions, he fought for keeping it in the movie and "caved in" only after much pleading from censorship committee, that allowed him to keep all other joke's and slight pokes at the government in the film))
1:55 He’s actually referring to Shrek the Third. No one is disputing Shrek 2’s godliness here.
I waz about to say that
beat me by half-an-hour
Beat me by half an hour and 5 minutes
At the very end of the video, Cody actually puts out a very good question: Why is it called “Uprising”? Who is doing the uprising? What is the uprising? With how the plot goes, it doesn’t really make any sense!
35:15 Yo, Jack, bro, I have never heard you make anything close to that noise before, dawg 😂😂 Completely warranted, tho. My mouth was agape the entire time listening to that Del Toro pitch the first time, hahaha!
I never thought I’d see such a visceral reaction out of him, like, ever. Actually dying laughing right now.😭
7:28 "ONE MAN"
Man, Pointless Hub is really getting a lot of mileage from that scene
It's a good scene in a film with barely (if not) any
@@victoroliveira3577a hollywood budget gattai sequence was the other
John turturro is one of the best parts of bayformers
Ah yes, two of my favorite things in one video:
Jack giggling like a goober whenever something funny happens
Him slowly becoming more and more frustrated with what he’s witnessing to the point he explodes with passionate anger
Just like all of the horrendous movie sequels that came before it, we just pretend it doesn't exist.
I’m surprised that PointlessHub made a video on something that doesn’t exist
And then they made the Pacific Rim anime, which was actually really good and I really enjoyed it!! It’s definitely set in an alternate reality but it’s still cool.
Just because that alternate reality is called Australia doesn't mean it doesn't have a place in my heart
Yep the anime had more respect for the franchise than the so called sequel
@ pretty much yeah.
19:03 ok but where did he got the brains from? they berely got one earlier and now there is thousand, I'm don't think that many kaijus went through a rift in a first place
Probably cloned them in his bathroom, and then sneaked them to the factory in his prison pocket
My idea for a secuel was to have Jaeger from different countries fighting in wars, like, now that there's no more alien menaces we get to fight each other with our new toys, then aliens come back stronger and we have to unite to defeat them in a huge battle in which a lot of different jeagers of different countries fight.
Reminding you in the first movie the rest of the world gave up and proceeded to build a 'uge wall, so in my mind it would have made sense to NOW have the countries of the pacific to cooperate (thinking that they would have made more jaegers by that point so that would not be a problem).
It could have been a little deeper with some political storytelling, while maintaining the action at the climax.
The aliens could also come out of the atlantic, so we could get European, African, and South American Jaegers.
Call it Atlanti- I mean Pacific Rim: the Atlantic Rift.
@ArcologyCrab-gq9ub yeah they could be coming from everywhere, like at the end of the first we didn't defeat them, we just pissed them off, which makes sense, for a multidimensional species to be defeated by a tiny nuke makes no sense.
It could be Pacific Rim: World War Kaiju
Going off that ending scene, Del Toro certainly has an imagination. XD To be fair, this was most likely a very early idea that wouldn't have made it into the movie in the first place. The description seems way too slapped together to be an actual plot summary. But yeah, not exactly the best sequel. I don't hate it as much as I did back then, but it's still not good. Also, apparently Del Toro wanted a crossover with the Legendary Godzilla...that would have been interesting.
Honestly, let the Kaiju ignite the ring of fire, 400 years later we will have Project Wingman in real life
Now he just needs to watch the G1 transformers video and this giant robots arc will be complete.
This guy was against the world
The Black was kinda good, it was a anime vision of pacific rim, it was weird but it was watchable
Imagine being handed the reigns to a kingdom, and the previous king says "I trust and respect your vision... But don't copy me." AND YOU JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT IT.
I do not envy anyone who has to follow a great director because YOU WILL FAIL 99.99% of the time. Basically every remake supports this, the only exceptions being studios that can pump out an infinite amount of money into anything even if it fails (I'm a fan of all three Spider-Man series, but you can see by the fact there's multiple attempts at making a series before they managed to intertwine their wants with the overall story they were building at the time. They did a good job with No Way Home, but where do they go from here? Probably nowhere and they reboot AGAIN)
Im amazed by how del toro made the second movie sound more normal after whatever that qoute in the end was.
You gotta love that the one thing they did right, the kaiju drones and the 20 or so kaiju brought through the rifts, is the thing that they immediately shoot in the knee and kill.
35:13 That was a beautiful scream
The director of this didn't get the last movie. One example is how the director of the first said he made the Jagers slow and clunky to better sell their size and weight; the director said he disliked how slow they were. As a result, often, the Jagers in this feel much lighter and smaller than they are supposed to be.
Jack pronouncing adolescence was something I didn't realize I needed in my life. Perfection. 6:23
I swear Del Toro is the type of creator who is meant to be making one thing then move on to the next. He is never meant to make a sequel to anything. This is really shows when he was chosen for the Hobbit movie where he said he can only make one movie much of the chagrin of the studio wanting 3 till they have to get Peter Jackson again.
Go you! You are really stepping it up with the fire thumbnails 🎉
Loved the video chill
Your insight and references on Cody’s vids are hilarious, so I’m excited to see the 1 n’ half hour vid of the 80s tf movie
Yeah for movies like this you just have to accept there's 100% a timeline where only the first movie happened. The end
Wait, someone made a pacific rim fanfic movie !? ...shouldve used the money on a sequel
Hey, chill guy. there's a post credit scene in the Pointless Hub video/s. Marvel should hard-wire us more to wait for the post credit scenes. XD
Love your videos and your commentary.
On a personal level, as someone who watched this movie when it first came out, I kinda enjoyed it (put down the pitchforks, people). Till this day I always forget the drones plotline and the ceo. but I remember fondly the bad Jaeger's design, and ... umm .. Charlie Day's day as a wacky over-the-top insane bad guy. I laughed so much and I still find his character in PR2 memorable.
For me, I like to like stuff.
Except for the Borderlands movie. that one hurt me deep.
there will be never a more fitting meme to dunk on this movie than any scene of charlie day screaming in its always sunny in philadelphia
People got to stop using "fan fic" as an insult. 90% of these people ain't never even read a fan fic before
Yeah but, there are really bad fan fics out there.
The only thing I remember about this movie was watching it with the family and a late family friend, all of us wondering why the Kaiju were even coming to Earth anyway, and said friend responding with "they came for the gas and oil" 😂 It is actually my most prominent memory of him, and thus the only thing that kept me from forgetting this movie even existed in the first place
As someone who enjoyed Trollhunters, a Netflix series Del Toro created, and hated the movie that capped off that franchise, which he co-wrote, Del Toro's weird pitch for Pacific Rim 2 seems like something he'd genuinely do.
I found out about this films existence around 3 years before its announcement because my best friends uncle is a costume designer who worked on it, so I was hyping for almost 3 years before witnessing this train wreck
This sequel is like watching an onslaught do parkour. That somehow makes it more lame.
I like robots, I am a simple man✋🤚
Btw all Shrek movies will be amazing
33:43
I felt so alone actually liking Joss Whedon’s Justice League, especially when Zack Snyder’s version came out. It’s not a perfect movie, but after seeing what Snyder’s version looked like, I definitely appreciated it more, trimming a lot of unnecessary fat, actually making Superman feel like Superman, etc. Dude was just working with what he was given.
There’s plenty of reasons to hate Whedon, but Justice League is not one of them.
Never say never, I thought Evangelion was done after the anime and then it hit us with 7 movies and then the rebuild series.
Yknow, it wouldve been better if the pasific rim 2 goes like:
There was a time mars habitable, the alien live there. But the alien soon realize its about to be not habitable.
They decided to do some gene modification on their own so some of them can live a long long time without anything. Which later be send to another planet.
So some aliens go to the next soon to be habitable and some of them go live underground of mars with limited resource, mouth to feed, etc.
The aliens has power to share memories, so the knowledge is pass one to another. To make low on food problem less problematic, the old alien pass their memories and get cannibalized. And some aliens like the kaiju get inside a freezers
The aliens that goes to another planet is planning to build the rift/wormhole that would connected to mars. Just to take the planet for their own.
For safety check, they sends the kaiju.
The end.
i have never watched pacific rim 2
The Black was 1000 times better that this sequel, was still funny, but after the first Watch i knew there was no 3rd movie, never a chance after that
9:00 is that Mackenyu?? I never watched this movie, and keep forgetting it exists, so I didn't know he was in it.
I never watched this movie, and you can't convince me otherwise.
bro i actually forgot it existed, kind of feel like shit now that I'm reminded. = (
Wait that thing with the Precursores being future humans also mirrors Halo. In bungie cintinuity iirc the forerunners were suppose to be ancient Hyper advanced humans
idc about the content I ONLY WATCH FOR THE MECH😂
I wanted to see the germans swooped in out of no where and the robot its just a gun platform for the ne and improved Gustavrailway gun with like 8 legs or 6 legs maybe 2 gunned and just be a mobile artillery peace and it would be heavy and moved like PR1 like that would be cool Yager
35:45 Joker2...
Honestly the only thing I hated about uprising is how they killed off mako and didn’t bring becket back
Pog
Hi mate, how comes you haven’t reacted to the other video by dogpack404, about mr beast, I loved your take on the first one and it’s the only legitimate unbiased reaction I can find, would love to see you react to the other one, thanks
i love how you keep mentioning pacific rim the black.
because i actually watched it, and it's pretty good imo
more should talk about it
Theres no such thing as a Pacific Rim sequel.
Oh yea there will be finally pacific rim 2
First: Its widespread a.f term, but mechs are NOT robots! Robots have limited automatic function in form of " dumb/ specifically tasked A.I. Mechs and other mechanical vehicles like , fighter jets, helicopters have pilots. To be fair in PF2, the kaju hijacked can be classified as " robots " since they are controlled by organic A.I mind stuff. Also! The second movie should have had more weight and similar tone/ atmosphere as the first even if the first batch of kaiju were gutted.
I dont even remember most of the characters in this movie.
Ngl, there was an Animated Pacific Rim and it is way more better than Boogieman Pacific Rim2.
They keep using "Precursors" instead of Aliens probably because whoever made these kind of movies are Aliens in humansuit and calling em Aliens was offensive. Oh it's Del Torro? Now it make sense. 😂
Then there was the Netflix 3D cartoon...
Idk the animated one was pretty good in my opinion the first season more than the second
@@TisEtham1It's only sin was making Uprising canon to its story, and maybe killing off characters way too quickly
Please watch pacific rim the black it’s really good
I don't mind this movie.
It is sad when the audience is rooting for the bad guys. Just so that it's more interesting.
This must be the transformer megablocks rise of metroplex right?
I'm pretty sure I saw this movie, but nothing in this looks familiar to me 😂
"What sequel?"
i didnt know mako is in this movie
👍👍
Wait what is that movie? I don't seem to recall it.... Oh well must be some horrible horrible nightmare I'm trying to repress.
why does the protag of this film kinda look like jake
Interesting...
Chinese company buys studio...
Mysteriously the Japanese protagonist from the first movie is given fewer scenes and killed off...
How very interesting...
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Hey don't say anything wrong about this hot sauce I love it ^^
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I'm so glad I'm on your channel and not his.
IMPLYING SHREK 2 IS ANYTHING LESS THAN A MASTERPIECE?! Flame war in the comments, guaranteed.
And for good reason, Shrek 2 is a masterpiece of cinema.
I find Uprising better than the original one!Perfect sequel
Thats a joke right
@richardch.4356 no?It's a good one and the battles feel smoother compared to the original
The battles in the new one have no impact at all there's no sense of weight for something that size and just because it's smoother doesn't make it better the jaegers dont even feel like giant robots not to mention the movie itself is just all over the place.
Just like the original the battles its what the fun part , not the story itself and the battles where better and it doesnt matter if its lore accurate in terms of weight and speed of the machines
@@captaincoldy1192 yeah but if its giant robots then they should feel like giant robots and that is something that uprising didn't do.
37 minutes of you reacting to nothing? I mean, sure, btu we all know that the Pacific Rim sequel was never made.
Yeah jack, it got weirder as it goes along. A weirder ride than rough, that is. All the more reason to hate the movie as a "sequel"
Black Shinji? Eh, don't see it
So it was alien 3 all over again 😒
😐
Oh, here's a funny channel, but I would make it private. It's not worth making videos about it, but I personally have a lot of fun with it. brandon tenold
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1400 views in 42 minutes, bro's eating good...
WTH. Is up with the "The Pilots are literal children" BS?!
THAT'S THE POINT!!! They act reckless because they're still "Cadets in training"!!! Not fully fledged RANGERS!!!
Is that hard to understand?!
No, we understand. It's just a poorly executed element in a bad sequel.
@lucasgiraldo9791 what other way would one do it? Aside from showing the inexperienced trainees, by making them reckless and learn what they can possibly can within a movie 's length. It's literally in literature EXCEPT in Japanese shonen manga, where the characters become as strong as the professionals who trained for their entire lives. Tf?
So a story goes in a predictable way, you groan. And when they try something new, you people STILL complain? Ew
The movie was just all over the damn place its not good
Now i get that jaegers are more advanced but still something at that size should still have weight to it.
Guys, just admit it. That you're those types of people...where you skip at the end of a YT because you don't like the middle part or the process from start to end... Wanna ask how it's related? Well, let's just say
The start is "the Jaeger cadets begin their transition to Jaeger pilots/Rangers", and the end is "The cadets learn their lessons and are now fit to become Jaeger pilots/Rangers".
Oh, I have to say that too, I think it's really shit. Malean only likes the netzflix version of spriggan. It's not the original anymore. If anyone knows where I can watch it, please let me know. And yes, I mean the really old version and the legality of it is completely irrelevant to me. What is the name of the song again, welcome to the internet. ^^