Taiwan’s Chips Could Be Preventing War With China
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2024
- As China’s threats to Taiwan escalate, the global economy is increasingly at risk of a catastrophic disruption to the supply of microchips -- which are responsible for shaping our modern world. In response, the U.S. is racing to up its manufacturing capacity, pouring billions of dollars into the domestic microchip industry.
VICE News' Isobel Yeung steps into the technological race between the world’s two superpowers to see how semiconductors are changing geopolitics and every part of how we live.
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in order to protect his identity we will not blur his face or distort his voice. This flimsy mask is good enough.
I never understand why Vice or even COPS never go the long way to Protect their Sources. Goes to show you no one likes Snitches or Whistleblowers
It was his choice...
"The individual who went to China to assist the government in chip development is not working on the most advanced technology. Meanwhile, the Taiwanese government ensures its citizens' basic human rights, allowing them to pursue any job freely as long as it does not conflict with the country's vital interests."
there are thousands of chinese/taiwanese nationals that have moved to mainland china to work. out of all those people, she picked the one guy who had some reservations about it but yet still doing it. Its hard to propagandize a rational choice of making a living aka self interest making 3x+ the salary, into some dystopian option that china offers.
its also pretty obvious or extremely likely the "company" he works for is TSMC
"You're responsible for my wasted childhood" was not a true gamer move.
She just jocking! You can be sure she and her friends have very good memories of playing back then! ☺️☺️☺️
Horrible choice of words om her part
As a hardcore gamer I found that very insulting 😂
"OH REALLY?" lmao his response was perfect tbh.
I came across a report stating that the USA excels in wartime simulation, consistently achieving victory even when facing significant odds in favor of the opposing force, across various conflict scenarios. Unlike nations that focused on rebuilding after WW2 to establish a baseline, the USA has reshaped the landscape of military forces, attaining full-spectrum dominance with superiority in air, land, and sea capabilities.
Isobel Yeung is the best of Vice. She asks hard hitting questions and lays things out as they are.
Always loved watching her stories. She's top. And she's gorgeous too
Isn’t much left of vice but she is excellent
She's the one that kept me on voice news
@@jolness1 She's gone from vice as well now
She left Vice because Vice was going bankrupt and exited the news business.
"I shouldn't be talking here..." proceeds to utilize as many plosives in a single sentence as possible.
We keep hearing about China threats on MSN but never about this.
By Cristian A. Rodriguez
"As a Colonialist Empire the United States annexed the Kingdom of Hawaii by force, colonizing it and then imposing by military force the US sovereignty over an independent state.
Later the US waged another war to join the colonial powers, this time against the now weak and decaying Spanish Empire. Taking Puerto Rico, Guam, Philippines."
And this
Okinawa was also an independent country that was invaded and annexed by japan, who then proceeded to completely wipe out it’s unique culture.
Okinawa and the rest of the Ryukyus are their own thing...but unlike Taiwan, Japan isn't villianized so people don't care
-Fred Leeland
"We protests every single day against the US and Japan occupation of Okinawa.
Our voices are ignored. We're being overwrite by the Japanese and Westerners"
-Rob Kajiwara.
260 million bombs being dropped on a small defenceless country. The most heavily bombed country in history. The culprit portrays itself as the champion of human rights. Hypocrisy.
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just saw a report that the USA is so advanced in wartime simulation that it emerges victorious even when facing overwhelming odds in favor of the invader, regardless of the conflict realm. While other nations rebuilt after WW2 to establish a baseline, the USA transformed the world of military forces, achieving full-spectrum dominance with superiority in air, land, and water.
Learned a new word today. Thanks
@@Stoptheusinfightingwemustbe1 Nice citation.
@@Stoptheusinfightingwemustbe1The US leads the world now in number of homeless people, cost of healthcare, drug use, people who believe in angels, and percentage of incarcerated citizens. If war machines are the only thing we have and our country falls to pieces what was the point of protecting it?
4:11 I thought he said in deep sh*t. I had to rewind lol
What did he actually say
@savagewendigo8936 Captions say shape
@@savagewendigo8936^what this person said
He DID !!!
Isn’t that what he said
I Can't belive Isobel is no longer with vice. Its the end of an era. Can't wait to see where she goes next next along with the other great journalists vice has laid off.
What are you talking about?
@@OZbibaO Isobel, the reporter in this piece, was laid off by vice as well as most other employees.
@@capnkirktmwho does she work for now? She won't struggle to find a decent
job
@@mycellphone4437Don't know. But yeah you're right she'll get snagged up very quickly.
@@mycellphone4437 Probably will be Vox
The American guy at the end completely dodged the question about Taiwan becoming less safe as the US begins making it's own chips. The answer is obviously 'Yes'. He was probably also worried about a likely follow up question about whether the US will then remove support for Taiwan when Taiwan is no longer essential.
I think we all know the routine here, step back lend money to whoever is struggling then step in to 'save the day' (i.e. secure 100 years of eye-watering repayments just like in WW1, WW2, Ukraine, Israel etc. etc.).
I like Taiwan those guys are awesome they were even the go-to people during the pandemic for credible information when the WHO was floundering.
I hope they can continue to move the bar forward and always remain one step ahead of the rest of the world, their very survival may depend on it.
Props to that guy for coming back let's hope he's genuine and not simply on a recon mission!
It's ok. The Senator is a bit ignorant on the topic. Zero chance we can find enough qualified and workers that will take a cost effective pay for a mass amount of new Fabs. Taiwan via TSMC will dominate manufacturing in Taiwan still.
Taiwan would be less safe if the US couldn't produce it's own chips. In the scenario of an invasion Taiwan would need missiles, which require chips. If their fabs are damaged or destroyed in the first strike, the USA will need to produce their own to supply Taiwan.
@@HKim0072 Yea Taiwans not going anywhere in this industry. Anyone that knows anything about the semiconductor industry and Taiwan knows that the Taiwanese are very proud of being the main exporter of the highest tier chips, it's ingrained into their very culture, a culture which is already rich in education and excellence.
Trust, they are not going anywhere in this industry.
USA is nowhere near parity with Taiwan semi conductor technology. The YT channel asianometry has a very good segment on Taiwanese dominance. Even with TSMC building a fab in the US will do very little.
@@LFPAnimations you're overestimating and not considering reverse stock. Taiwan definitely has enough chips for their missiles. There is no doubt whatsoever, and they already will have backup just for these cases. The US is more reliant on Taiwan than Taiwan on the US, in some ways.
6:34 - Is that supposed to be a disguise? LOL
Right they probably have this guy’s eye scan in a data base somewhere.
It would to be hard to him in Taiwan and most people same there
@@trymellow8914 camera isn't good enough to get a good eye scan there.
and with his face covered and the hat it isn't that easy.
...
but his voice... that could be identified
@@trymellow8914the ears are a major identifier
If he was concerned with blowback they would have blurred his face and altered his voice. Vice probably tacked that on to jump onto the fear bandwagon when in reality, nothing would happen to him. Plus we don't know how long he worked in China or when he returned.
Vice is slowly coming back with quality improvement on content. And we’re here for it. Well done Vice🙌🏾
Vice is dying. They pretty much closed up shop.
@@capnkirktm They went woke. It used to be amazing. This piece is good though.
Reporter is good here
nah.. they are bought by state propagandist
@@rickyayyshe was laid off 2 weeks ago. this footage is from before then. she no longer works there.
Usa is one of the Taiwann biggest customer, I'm sure the won't let Taiwan. Get invaded as long, as Taiwan keeps being usefull to America.
LOL Taiwan wont last more than 3 hours, even with a fight. Plus Taiwanese people don't give a flying F, they see how the war in Ukraine is going and I don't think they are willing to die for American interests.
Yeah.. that’s why the US is building their own chip production. Soon we will not be reliant on Taiwan and then they will be invaded.
china is taiwan's biggest chip customer. didn't you watch the video?
yes... because china makes products for the west... aka USA@@baba.mkhulu
The US is NOT Taiwan's biggest trading partner. Taiwan's largest trading partner is China.
Isobel is my journalism crush
Mine is Anderson Cooper’s sweet a$$
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touch some grass
Simp
same
Can't believe there's all this fuss over fish and chips
I mean come on.
Who doesn't like fish and chips ?
You must be really old, as is a grandfather joke
dude at 5:19 has ocarina of time shield on the back of his helmet. the nintendo cameos go hard
Well done Vice, finally the content we want
00:08 That has got to be the crappiest ambulance I've ever seen.
may not be navy seals however their tactics were spot on..... impressive
4:07 had me dead 🤣
Dude is real AF
just saw a report that the USA is so advanced in wartime simulation that it emerges victorious even when facing overwhelming odds in favor of the invader, regardless of the conflict realm. While other nations rebuilt after WW2 to establish a baseline, the USA transformed the world of military forces, achieving full-spectrum dominance with superiority in air, land, and water.
I mean the ending point i understand but don’t funny agree with. Majority of people have new devices that’ll last but you could argue that if you if the chip shortages happens companies like apple or other big time electronic companies will have to do mass layoffs
Good ol' Vice journalism with Isobel, YES!
The semiconductor industry is getting heated, unable to meet the demand for skilled employees. Head hunters (recruiters) contacted me nearly on a daily basis.
😂😂 what skills and education do you have?
@@KallusGarnet How much are you willing to pay? 😀
Source about the semiconductor industry unable to meet demand of skilled employees?
@@Power_to_the_people567 Me. :D
Nice to see you doing a video not in a dangerous zone ❤
Take care love your videos
I just saw a report that the USA is so advanced in wartime simulation that it emerges victorious even when facing overwhelming odds in favor of the invader, regardless of the conflict realm. While other nations rebuilt after WW2 to establish a baseline, the USA transformed the world of military forces, achieving full-spectrum dominance with superiority in air, land, and water.
@@Stoptheusinfightingwemustbe1 no one cares
@@canescaniaccombo Putin has initiated a genocide of Slavic people and callously threatens to annihilate the Earth because he's not getting his way. He eliminates anyone who opposes his tyrannical rule, as evidenced by the mysterious disappearance of his opponents. Putin's dictatorship mirrors Stalin's, as he violently suppresses any dissent and unjustly claims ownership of Russia, now resorting to threatening the human race for exposing his crimes and supporting countries striving for freedom from his oppressive regime.
@@canescaniaccombo Who are you to murder your Slavic brethren and threaten the destruction of the human race simply because your political ideas were not welcomed in Europe?
Great coverage.
This episode is so education! Ty Vice.
I clicked on hoping they were talking about potato chips....
Same 😂
Ms Vickie’s chips 🤤
00:12 🏥 Healthcare Expo in Taiwan
00:29 🔬 IEG Sperm Sorting Chip
00:36 🖥 Semiconductors and Microchips
01:04 💡 Importance of Advanced Semiconductors
01:44 🏭 Taiwan's Investment in Semiconductor Industry
02:04 🔍 Tour of Silicon Wafer Factory
02:47 🛡 Taiwan's Silicon Shield
03:50 🎮 Macronix's Contribution to Gaming
03:50 🌏 Semiconductor's Global Demand
04:36 👾 China vs. Taiwan's Military and Economic Strategies
05:12 🔫 Volunteer Militia Training in Taiwan
06:03 🇨🇳 China’s Effort to Build Its Own Semiconductor Industry
06:44 🚀 Taiwanese Engineers in China
07:48 🚧 Taiwan's Legislative Efforts in Semiconductor Industry
08:54 🌍 Global Impact and Policies on Semiconductor Manufacturing
09:29 🚗 Chip Shortage and Its Economic Impact
11:07 🏭 TSMC to open factory in Arizona
12:02 💡 Importance of Taiwan in global chip manufacturing
12:21 🌍 Impact of conflict in Taiwan on global economy
Key Moments by Agent Gold AI
These summaries are great, but hopefully, people will still read, view, and critically dissect content for themselves rather than outsourcing their analytical skills entirely to almighty advanced search algorithms pretending to be AI.
sperm sorting chip??
i didnt get the sperm sorting chip part
@@robertomusante7733 LMAO
I'm eating chips while watching something about chips 😏
Alarming! Thank you for sharing. Please make sure when you run subtitles, they are slow and don't vanish in a second, it's not fair with people who can't speed read. Thank you again 🙏
This was a great video well done Vice. 👏
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@@wotizit right now chief
China is making too much on stealing tech right now. They would be idiots to destroy Taiwan.
I want the new 5090’s to come out. It should be this year. 😅
What else yall got back there? Gimme so i can play Vidjyah Ghames
I'm so glad to see Isobel back. Favourite vice journalist. She has to fear and is confident in what she's saying! I was mind blown at her Taliban interview how bold she was in such an uncomfortable situation. Keep up the amazing work! 😊
She is a trouble maker !
anyone know where can i watch full episodes?
it doesnt matter if China can make them or if the USA can make them. The danger to Taiwan is actually BECAUSE of their monopoly on it. If China takes over Taiwan they get a stranglehold on that manufacture monopoly and can hold anyone economically hostage that way. It is a good thing for America and China to partially divest from this supply chain. Taiwan will still remain at the forefront in terms of technology, technique and skill. Their economy will be fine, and the catastrophe from conflict would be somewhat reduced in it's global ramifications.
America is also incredibly interested in producing its own microchips of same calibre. Being dependent on Taiwan scares the States, so despite the US promising defence in case of a Taiwan invasion, there is also a huge interest in bringing the technology to the states. A great book to get a better understanding of the situation is “The Battle for Taiwan” by Jonas Parrello-Plesner. Includes anecdotes from people, just like in this vid, that are personally preparing for the worst. Also explains how the silicon shield isn’t foolproof. Highly recommend
I would also recommend the book "Chip War." It's well written and helps explain how we got to where we are now.
It will take a decade to catch up. This won't happen overnight and who knows what happens in the meantime.
The facility is being built in Arizona. Construction started last year if im not mistaken
In reality nothing is gonna happen.
There"s not going to be a war...
Taiwan is simply too important for the whole world global market.
Why?!?
The world biggest semiconductor supplier...
You wanna make cheap toys fast: PR China
You wanna launch a satelitte into orbit: ROC Taiwan
It's also possible that said war is ongoing in similar format of the cold war but just never oficial but with a lot of hot spots.
shhh, both sides dont want to hear that
You messed up the last two I think. PR China made 67 orbital launches in 2023, ROC never launched anything into the orbit.
@@CHL41993 I wasn"t referring to satelite launches to orbit by Taiwan. How far in orbit do you think any of those launches would actually go if Taiwan wasn"t the biggest supplier of microchips as cruical components?
That's reasonable, but you should prepare your military regardless. Especially when your unreasonable neighbors are sending you constant threats.
Great piece by Isobel Yeung, Thank you for being one of the better reporters of Vice
the weight is the sign of the reliability
4:07 the hole wold in deep….shape? Ship?
lol right sht I think he meant
I reckon so 😊
He obv said sht.
I came across a report stating that the USA excels in wartime simulation, consistently achieving victory even when facing significant odds in favor of the opposing force, across various conflict scenarios. Unlike nations that focused on rebuilding after WW2 to establish a baseline, the USA has reshaped the landscape of military forces, attaining full-spectrum dominance with superiority in air, land, and sea capabilities.
You know exactly what he said but, how's it feel making fun of a man who makes far far more money than probably your entire family and contributes more to the advancement of technology than your entire family as well.
There is a reason that its called: "The Silicon Shield"
a shield that the US has to come and save taiwan or a shied that forbids china invasion? neither. china does not care because the west will sanction china even if taiwan had no chips. if Ukraine had this silicone shield, would you think the US and Nato would have sent troops to fight Russia directly? its silly.
I just saw a report that the USA is so advanced in wartime simulation that it emerges victorious even when facing overwhelming odds in favor of the invader, regardless of the conflict realm. While other nations rebuilt after WW2 to establish a baseline, the USA transformed the world of military forces, achieving full-spectrum dominance with superiority in air, land, and water.
@@Stoptheusinfightingwemustbe1 no really, the USA has lost multiple war games to China
@@jamesdevine350 The objective of War Games is not to establish who would win or how. It is to highlight flaws. No matter how well we perform the game will always show that there is need for improvement and with this information our leaders gain simulated experience for potential real world scenarios.
@@jamesdevine350 really? when?
with or without dip??
the healthcare expo looks so cool omg, id love to go one day
It’s just a matter of time people around will start to develop their own chips. Fierce competition will only make these chips even more advanced and cheaper in the long run.
Hi George. I understand why you say that. But I don't think it's possible. It's a bicycle vs race car situation. People can't catch up.
Russia is buying Iranian missile, not because they don't have the explosives, but they don't have the chips for guidance. It's also, one of the reasons, why they're stealing so many washing machines from Ukrainian houses-they need chips inside for their tanks.
To replicate the Taiwan advantage, basically a country would need to kidnap several thousand people, somehow steal dozens and dozens of campus building with the machinery that assembles, terabytes of stolen software and Intellectual property, and also silicon processing plants. It's impossible. That's why China wants ALL of Taiwan, you have to absorb the whole country to posses the supply chain from raw sand to completed wafers. And everybody else, is too far behind; it's like if the island of Papua New Guinea wanted to compete with NASA.
@@BobKnight-mm2ze That's hard to say
@@zl4384Can you clarify what's "hard to say?"
@@BobKnight-mm2ze I am confident that the gap between Papua New Guinea and NASA is greater than the gap in chips between other countries and Taiwan.
@@zl4384Ok, that's fine, my comically exaggerated analogy wasn't intended to be reality. But I stand by my point; Taiwan is too far ahead in this space to be overtaken without massive time, money, people, and crucial supply chain elements.
100 billion transistors within the size of a finger nail. A calculator only needs 24 transistors.
I came across a report stating that the USA excels in wartime simulation, consistently achieving victory even when facing significant odds in favor of the opposing force, across various conflict scenarios. Unlike nations that focused on rebuilding after WW2 to establish a baseline, the USA has reshaped the landscape of military forces, attaining full-spectrum dominance with superiority in air, land, and sea capabilities.
No. 24 transistors would make only the most outrageously rudimentary calculator ever. Just adding two 4-bit numbers takes alot more than 24.
Calculators don't make 3D games in real time with infinite ray tracing and multiple motion sources and super realism.
Do you know the source and time of the statement 'xi said complete unification can be achieved'?
It’s the end of an Era, this is Isobel’s last piece with Vice. 🫡
🫡
She's done some really good segments, a shame she's going
@@jamespae7019 she is a N.E.D mouth piece
There’s plenty of public outcry about the chips act in the USA weakening Taiwan’s leverage for us protections. There’s entire books about the chip manufacturing being leveraged as a protection tool, by Taiwan. The silicon shield, is normally what it’s referred to since the 80s
The silicon shield, is normally what it’s referred to since the 80s"
Taiwan's big mistake was not negotiating a rock solid military protection agreement with the US before they allowed TSMC to build high end fabs in Arizona, Japan and Germany...and not to weakly accept the current ambiguous "protection" the US talks about. ...which only means the US will drop Taiwan in a New York minute once enough chips are being produced outside Taiwan....and if Taiwan still maintains it's dominance of high end chip production, the US will tax Taiwan chips so they will cost more than US, Japanese or Korean chips as they poach Taiwan chip engineers en masse as they stop mentioning about protecting Taiwan and talk more about "America first" when reporters ask about protecting Taiwan from China.
it will be then that Taiwan will realize that the Silicon Shield was sold out under their feet by TSMC and the DPP.
They didn't give the US their latest fab design. We are making basically one or two generations behind them (I work at Intel)
@@user-gs3tq6bx2u Sounds like standard rubbish from the random user bot account. Putting tariffs on Taiwanese chips is the last thing the US will do because that cost is passed onto US consumers which will increase the price of everything. The fabs TSMC are building around the world are not as advanced as their own, they are basically small insurance the world economy doesn't collapse if China invades Taiwan. Manufacturing costs will always be higher in the US than any of those other places because workers are paid much more in the US. A $50b investment in a couple of US fabs isn't even close to being able to overtake the Taiwanese market position.
@@HyzersGR "Sounds like standard rubbish from the random user bot account."
I assure you Hyzer, I'm real (but, just to make sure, I pinched myself..yep. I'm real)
Hyzer says " damn, ChatGPT is getting better everyday!"
Protecting Taiwan is crucial due to its significance in chip production and strategic location. The Taiwan Strait serves as a vital shipping route and Taiwan acts as the first barrier for China to prevent easy access to US territories.
The fact that we get free videos on RUclips by VICE News is truly a gift.., keeping the education and knowledge alive. 👍👍👍
Seems like they need to diversify so that they are not so dependent on their microchip market
Or china could be independent instead depending on taiwan 😅
@@chunchao9527
U$ barred ASML from selling to PRC . 🤷
Where’s that huge hanger in simi valley?
great work Isobel Yeung!
I came across a report stating that the USA excels in wartime simulation, consistently achieving victory even when facing significant odds in favor of the opposing force, across various conflict scenarios. Unlike nations that focused on rebuilding after WW2 to establish a baseline, the USA has reshaped the landscape of military forces, attaining full-spectrum dominance with superiority in air, land, and sea capabilities.
She's a bad journalist though; she's known for cherry-picking information. Even in this video where she's faking a China attack on Taiwan, she leaves out crucial context, such as the One China policy, which has been adopted by both Taiwan, China, as well as the US and EU.
@@theverses8644 false
@@Stoptheusinfightingwemustbe1 Not false, any ignorant viewers until the end of the video will not know that China and Taiwan are considered one nation according to the One China policy, with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) being the authority on it, since she left out the context.
@@Stoptheusinfightingwemustbe1 Not false, she intentionally (like other works of hers) left out the context about the One China Policy, where the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is recognized as the sovereign ruling authority over both Taiwan and mainland China. This consensus has been reached by China, Taiwan, the USA, and the EU. Therefore, according to the rule, if Taiwan declares independence, it would be considered an act of separatism, and China can take whatever measures necessary to prevent it.
"This is Vice?"
"This is what Vice is supposed to be."
"This ain't too bad."
I just saw a report that the USA is so advanced in wartime simulation that it emerges victorious even when facing overwhelming odds in favor of the invader, regardless of the conflict realm. While other nations rebuilt after WW2 to establish a baseline, the USA transformed the world of military forces, achieving full-spectrum dominance with superiority in air, land, and water.
If only the music was louder it could be heard even better.
What a very informative video! These are the video I come for.
The main reason that TSMC is so successful is because the low wage situation and ultra hardworking spirit in Taiwan.
Wow one way to simplify an advanced product.
ie exploited labor.
not just chips , industries too, no war just unification
I met some Arizona TSMC people here in Taiwan.
How is the market cap of NVIDIA 2,3 Trillions (with T) if the market of all semiconductors are 500 Billion USD?
I think it’s because nvidia puts A TON of markup to their products
"The market" of all semiconductors not "The worth" of all semiconductors are 500B
Company's worth(market cap) is much bigger than its sales
it's the projected selling cost of a company buyout not the actual valuation or how much $ they have in the bank. Apple would be far higher than theirs.
Have you considered that it’s because Nvidia is in the business of selling GPUs, and not semiconductors?
*Edit:* Additionally, even TSMC is valued at over $600 billion. Wall Street valuations are not exactly equal to the size of the market for physical product purchases.
@@DDMSakb48the last two ppl are wrong, Nvidia is valued that much due to being leading the AI market.
Also think of Nvidia as a big engineer not manufacturing as they are fabless, no need to spend trillions of dollars on tools
It’s actually Holland that controls the machines that make the ships, so it’s an alliance of countries that control this industry, not just what is made in Taiwan.
It's the Netherlands, not Holland. North Holland is the province Amsterdam is in. It's like calling the US New York state. We have the only company that makes the technology for the newest semiconductors, yes. Without us the whole US economy would collapse.
Lots of shareholders all over the world in this company. Samsung, Blackrock, TSMC and Intel for instance. It's maybe time to nationalize it though if Trump gets elected this time.
And the laser part that calibers the machine that build the chip machine is german. The idea (genious in my pov) was to make these 3 the top priority of usa security policy.
@@Joey-ct8bm They're a systems integrator that source parts from all over the world so if the US tells ASML to jump then it jumps. It would be a death penalty to nationalize it, see Iran and Cuba after they nationalized their oil industry.
@@kangkim150 We aren't dependent on ASML like Taiwan in the Netherlands and have the EU market. Our biggest export is agricultural exports. The second biggest after the US actually. You are not gonna eat our food?
Want to start a tariff war on food? Very bad idea for everybody and it would actually make us money. We are covered my friend.
Oil is not the same. Everybody has oil. There's just one ASML machine and we can ask what we want. We could ask a trillion dollars. I'm not kidding. Let the bidding war begin between nations!
China would pay good money for semiconductor control.
The lasers come from the US of the machine. Guess who bought the company who made the lasers in the US and most of their supply chain? ASML owns it.
I'm sure the Chinese could reverse engineer that blueprint considering they make more lasers than the US.
Germany makes the lenses at Zeiss. Our biggest ally in Europe. We even have a joint tank battalion with Germany. Don't expect much help from them. They would benefit massively from making chips too.
Those are the most important parts.
@@puraLusa The laser comes from the US, but is owned by ASML in the Netherlands. In Germany they make the lenses at Zeiss.
glad to see Isobel outside of Iran
For once I felt proud of out current president for making a good move and partner up with the main supplier to make our our chips, such a great move for the country
It’s literally called the silicone shield 🛡️
Which is being transfered or relocated to Arizona under America's command. LOL. 🤣
Taiwan strong 💪
China*
0:40 KERFUS!!!!!
It's somewhat refreshing to see uploads only 2 years outdated, after some other videos from 2016 being uploaded in the last few weeks.
Waiting on my RTX 6090 so I can finally run cyberpunk.
your life is sad.
If you think russia invading ukraine was costly for russia, china invading taiwan will be 10-40× more costly in personnel loses for china
If you know it, I'm sure they know it too. Although, Taiwan is China already, according to the UN.
But if USA left Afganistán after 20 years to the Talibans. China just need to wait. And they will not invade. They will do like in Hongkong
And if you look at the data you will find out that China has about 10x GDP and people compared to Russia. Not only that, your numbers are wrong. Most analysts predict anything between 300k to 1m manpower loss for China, which would be about 1x to 3x of the russian losses in the war so far.
Taiwan is a island that 20 times smaller than Ukraine, a better comparison for Taiwan would be Crimea, which didn`t cost much for Russia to annex it
@@freethinker810 But Taiwan is much more prepared for war than Ukraine was in 2021, and also an American intervention (with potential Japanese, Filipino and Korean support) is basically guaranteed in case of invasion. The terrain is also pretty damn harsh to the invader, there are very few good beaches for landing and the central mountainous regions are perfect to stage a resistance, also they heavily complicate the invader's logistics.
Ukraine's border with Russia is basically a huge flatland, yes it's much larger but it's also much easier to manoeuvre tanks and other heavy vehicles in it, on top of offering much less cover.
The true problem of Taiwan is that basically 90% of the population lives in areas that will be directly involved in the fighting, the west coast facing China. Which means that regardless of whether they ultimately win or lose the war, they still lose, as they will end up a broken country regardless, with literally all of their industry destroyed and who knows how many citizen unalived.
Why are they portraying this "semiconductor" or "silicon shield" as a Taiwanese sort of "creation?" Like the only reason that China doesn't invade Taiwan is because the US is in their way. This entire "semiconductor" industry is basically all US companies that just have their factories in Taiwan to manufacture them there for cheaper lmao. That's the only reason the US is so heavily involved in protecting Taiwan, as we're protecting our intellectual property as well as the obvious physical property of multi-billion dollar factories. So this entire situation is only born out of Taiwan being developed so heavily by US companies and us wanting to protect it. Especially the actual intellectual property itself, not wanting it to fall into the hands of a communist regime. Said technology is still primarily developed and funded by the US though. As most of said companies involved still have the majority of their employees actually based in the US where they develop the actual technology, only to have it physically manufactured in Taiwan for the sake of cost lol. You'll notice most of the people in the video will say "our company created.." or "our company developed" etc.. Because the people actually creating most of the more cutting edge tech are based in the US. I don't want to try and take away from Taiwan in general or their achievements, it's just that I don't like how most of the videos about this topic try to portray the actual technology as Taiwanese. This happens with a lot of other things where technology is manufactured in some random place and instead of giving credit to the actual companies for technically lifting an entire nation out of poverty(even if out of trying to save money, they still helped develop a nation economically) they act as if said nation just magically developed and manufactured some of the most cutting edge tech in the world because some Taiwanese was just digging a hole one day to plant rice and found a microchip for the next iphone buried. lmfao. So no this tech is not Taiwanese, nor are the achievements for advancing and developing it. US companies just showed Taiwan how much better the US economy and way of doing things is than China, so now they don't want to be part of China's dictatorship and are glad they worked with US companies.
Despite the title and the obvious bias, an overall good documentary. Mainland and Taiwan are same people. No one wants war (unless Taiwan declares independence). Time is on mainland side and it needs the time to fix its own economy and catch up on the technology and military sides. But America wants to beat down a rising power (and you cant blame them as history and Japan fate will tell you) and so would want to stir a bit of trouble for mainland (using Taiwan somewhat, similarly using Phillipine, to sell weapons and forge alliances to contain mainland) although it also does not want to overdo it (because a real war will be disaster for everyone). Taiwan just needs to keep status quo and focus on its economic interests. Less geopolitics said, more peace will prevail across the strait
China is that you?
"Economic Defense" - I love that concept!
China's chip manufacturing is rapidly advancing to the point where Taiwan's chip manufacturing won't cause an economic disaster. Wishful thinking tho
I'm here just to watch reporter Isobel. Onto the subject though, yes the whole world depends on Taiwan for semiconductors. However, both US and China are working on freeing selves from such dependence.
lol, you realize what it takes to build the low nm fabs?
Funny how America has slowly realized letting other countries control thing that give our economy life isn't a great idea 😂😂
@@HKim0072 It takes ASML. And ASML has a contract with the white house to not export the most advanced euv machines to China. The US is winning. Taiwan is mostly stagnant and China is losing in terms of relative power around chips.
@@glichjthebicycle384According to TSMC a semiconductor factory in Arizona costs 5 times more than a similar factory in Taiwan.
@@squibbelsmcjohnson thats how market economy works. why did you think us invaded iraq and afghanistan?
The first one really threw me off 😂🎉
Look at how much nicer there build quality of buildings is compared to ours
The friendship between Taiwan ans USA.... If not semiconductors USA wouldn be interested in the region
Umm you shouuld read history. When WW2 happened and Chiang Kai Shek fled to Taiwan, General McArthur immediately realized how important the strategic location of Taiwan would be to keep CCP in its place. This was waaay before chips were even a thought. I recommend you research more into geo politic of Taiwan Straight and how losing it would impact the entire world's export without chips even in the picture
@@SCBlahBLah Yep, aside from business it's just an incredibly important strategic location to have in possession of a peaceful democratic country.
I am in Taipei now, let's meet for something sketchy
I had believed that Vice News had ceased operations
BULLISH on TSM/AMD/NVDA
Chips and salsa always helps to keep the peace.
guag is better.
0:21 - "Do what now??"
Well then no reason for TMSC to build any factories in US knowing the risk. So that is exactly what they are doing by delaying the project in AZ.
These subtitles are inaccurate lmao.
Translation was never VICE's strongsuit..
Could someone give an accurate one here please? Thank you :)
4:46 That's the last guy you want dipping his pen in your countries ink.
Guys we want to see your interview with Stanislav Vasiliev
I thought the chips were also a major reason for China's threats
no.
No
China also has the capacity to make chips, though not as small as Taiwan
@@user-hp8fo9bz3x Good! World still need a lot of microwaves, washing machines and vacuum cleaners. It's a big market!
That's a major misconception that you see throw around by uninformed people online. China has wanted Taiwan since their founding, for historical and strategic reasons.
It is naive to think that chips can protect Taiwan. It makes people underestimate the risk. Very dangerous.
These chips have to be regulated properly otherwise it will get out of hand
My favourite are the Miss Vickies kettle cooked chips.
Pringles > Sticky Vickie's
The first thing my brain did was ask, "Wait, how are potato chips preventing war...?" =[
Same. It's the only reason I clicked on the video. Now I'm hungry for chips.
@@elizabethnelson321I have some sea salt and vinegar chips, I would gladly share with you.
7:52 The name... 🤣🤣
"You're responsible for my wasted childhood" (referring to Nintendo) is a wild statement.
Isobel is so beautiful
RIP Vice media!
Semiconductor is very important industry to Taiwan. It is what keep Taiwan on the map. It is what prevent China from starting a war with Taiwan. It is what give USA a strong reason to protect Taiwan. Most importantly, it is the biggest part of Taiwan's economy. Without it, Taiwan is literally nothing.
You need to protect the Netherlands first. We make the technology for the newest semiconductors. We are not feeling loved right now with Trump and the republican party at all. Taiwan and the US economy could fall.
Taiwans biggest market is China I expect.
I think it’s America but indirectly probably china
Taiwan's biggest trading partner is China which is around 45%. Taiwan's trade with the US is about 8%. @@user-yh1nm1vy3i
No the U.S
they name China as the biggest market for chips 3:33 min in
@@xenostim With all the sanctions, China has already reduced it's chip purchasing because it can't get their hands on them
The problem is that US corporations want to place chips in everything. For instance, there is no necessity for automobile manufacturers to put chips in every vehicle. A lot of Americans will be happy with an affordable car that has a good engine. Therefore, not every vehicle has to equipped with all this microchip dependent technology.
I have seen people fail their Smog test (vehicle emmissions California) because the car's computer says so. These are nicer newer vehicles like decent looking Volvo's suv, hondas, chevy cars.
computer says no
ĹMFAO they did not hide that dudes face at all. Bro is about to lose his fucking job 😅😂
"Hey I KNOW THOSE EYES AND THAT VOICE"-Taiwanese CEO
Chips? They just taste that good huh?
You mean war with West Taiwan.
Nobody cares
American veteran here. Glad we are getting chip production up in America. I comprehensively reject defending Taiwan under any condition and will vote against anyone advocating we do.
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How about defending the Netherlands and democracy? We are the ones who make the newest technology. Without us even Taiwan would be making chips from 15 years ago. The whole US economy would collapse. We only sell it to the US because of Biden's chip act. That could change very fast if Trump is going to be besties with Putin and Orban. You would lose all your technology companies without ASML.
If the US chooses Trump, i want ASML to be fully nationalized in my country and make the new autocratic USA economy fall into a abyss. You would be considered traitors of democracy. Enemies of freedom. Al Qaeda!!!!
198 of my fellow Dutch people died in the shooting down of the MH17 by a Russian BUKsystem of the 53rd Russian brigade over Ukraine by Russia's "Little Green Men". We will not stop fighting Putin by any means.
I'm a Dutch veteran who was in SFIR 3 in Iraq defending democracy about a lie of WMD's. You need to get your act together in the US. Ukrainians are dying right now as we speak because of a bill that should've been signed months ago. Why do you even have the second amendment if not for this autocratic undemocratic behavior of the republicans? Put them in jail already.
I work at TSMC Az,
Value gone, protection gone.
This is news?
Articles and videos are not just their headline. Journalism is not just breaking news.
Chips are very important. But mostly for making cheap toys and refrigerators that can tell you the weather. I get that the economy would take a hit but I wish everything wasn't full of semiconductors for no reason.