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An interesting thing to note is that how Aponia describes her ability to "see fate" is similar to a concept in physics which is that if you know all the initial conditions of an environment you can determine the causal outcomes of the events within that environment. Basically, nothing is random, everything is predetermined, and causality is based on initial conditions and cannot be changed. Aponia mentions how there were things she couldn't see because she didn't know all of these initial conditions and that no matter how much she tried to change fate by altering things it always ultimately lead to the same outcome or worse. So she wished she could construct a world of her own in which she not only knew all of these conditions but could be in control of them to determine fate for herself. I think that is basically what the Elysian realm ended up being. It is also worth noting that quantum physics rejects this theory of absolute determinism by basically stating that at the very fundamentals of nature, impossible to predict and random changes do occur and so, therefore, the future is in fact impossible to fully determine.
Forgive me if I'm wrong! My brain may be already fried from too much ER lore. But isn't what you describe Su's clairvoyance? I know that both Aponia and Su talk about the way they see the future in different ways. Su talks about how he bases his future prediction on forecasting by observing the environment and predicting the most likely outcome. Meanwhile, Aponia talks about how the way she sees fate is more engrained in hard determinism and the strings of fate based on the Greek Myth of the 3 Sisters of Fate.
Isnt that Su's ability? he describes that his ability is unlike aponia, since hers was the confirmation of fate, while his is based on the previous experience, and is therefore more of a prediction?
One thing to note you didnt mention. Aponia lost the ability to see fate after Elysia sacrificed herself. Either she did something to Aponia or the fate itself. I believe there was an amazing theory about this. Saying how fate of PE was predetermined from the start until Elysia changed it and Aponia is a proof of this. Edit: And it turned out true...
Aponia conscience merging with the ER is an interesting speculation, but I can see how it can be true. Just her influence over Mei can be a good argument to sustain it.
And nobody in the Current Era (except Mei and Kevin) will get to know about Aponia, unfortunately. *Conclusion:* Humans are the real monsters. They slaughtered Rin! (Another one!)
i just think you should know but you’re doing a great job. i just got into honkai and having a creator like you explain the story and explain the background of the game really helps me feel more invested. i wish you the best and to let you know that you’re gonna blow up one day!
love this kind of videos, i admit so many text in-game that i can't understand even after reading or im just dumb this helps alot with explaining what is happening keep up the good work
I do love me some character analysis video. I haven't even dabbled that far into ER but you already gave me a better appreciation for Aponia's character.... beyond the obvious parts of her character we could uhhh..... appreciate. Anyway this was the same with Otto who I disliked since I didn't really see him beyond being "really evil" so thanks for the vids.
Fun fact one of the nun you used is Aldra from queen’s blade now queen’s blade actually has a lot darker lore in the manga. Fun fact I know a queen from this game she reminds of.
She tells Mei in of the recollections that at the time she was in Sundown Alley, she could not see the future yet. Otherwise she would have know about the fire and MOTH's involvement. Going to triple check myself, but I'm sure that she had her Discipline from the beginning and gained the ability to see people's fate only after the fusion with Mitra's genes.
@@HomuLabs i think she had both before becoming MANTIS. It's just that those abilities were enhanced. I might be wrong though since, as you know, too much info out there in honkai
Just watched all your videos You're doing a very splendid Job keep it up i was having difficulties with ER story line but now i understand Thanks for all these videos
Plzplzplz make a review video of Marcia Funebre chapter in the story! Nobody is talking about it! Theres a real empty space for honkai lore videos! And i feel like youre the right guy to be doing em!
Thanks for a great breakdown od Aponia! Now I feel I got her better 😉👍 Btw, wasnt Sakura and Kalpas looking forward to eliminate her to break down from her Discipline? In ER at least.
Not really. Sakura wanted her disciple, and even Kalpas was content with it. Sure, he was angry at her and said that he will kill her, but that's how Kalpas talks with everybody. In Ch29, Sakura wants to get revenge because she found out about Rin's death. Kalpas is also mad because Sakura was the only one he considered a comrade and he was mad because everybody lied to her.
Aponia" (Ancient Greek: ἀπονία) means the absence of pain, and was regarded by the Epicureans to be the height of bodily pleasure.well..her life and name are opposite a life of pain but her name is absence of pain
I'm back! It's been a hard couple of weeks but videos are rolling out again.
"Please" SUBSCRIBE and leave a LIKE in order to receive Aponia's blessings!
Also, if you think I missed anything, "please" let me know and I'll edit this post with more info.
The fact that Aponia can see the future %100 means the future is predetermined. Which means everything moths did was in vain.
they werent predetermined, she sees the future based on probability
@@bbbbbbbbbbbrbbrb Thats true for sim aponia. Real aponia saw the future absolute. As seen from sundown alley.
@@Phapchamp That was, of course, until Elysia shattered all the strings.
Idk WHY nobody makes honkai lore vids. I used to search for aponia lore on YT and could never find it. Thank u for this
An interesting thing to note is that how Aponia describes her ability to "see fate" is similar to a concept in physics which is that if you know all the initial conditions of an environment you can determine the causal outcomes of the events within that environment. Basically, nothing is random, everything is predetermined, and causality is based on initial conditions and cannot be changed.
Aponia mentions how there were things she couldn't see because she didn't know all of these initial conditions and that no matter how much she tried to change fate by altering things it always ultimately lead to the same outcome or worse. So she wished she could construct a world of her own in which she not only knew all of these conditions but could be in control of them to determine fate for herself. I think that is basically what the Elysian realm ended up being. It is also worth noting that quantum physics rejects this theory of absolute determinism by basically stating that at the very fundamentals of nature, impossible to predict and random changes do occur and so, therefore, the future is in fact impossible to fully determine.
Forgive me if I'm wrong! My brain may be already fried from too much ER lore. But isn't what you describe Su's clairvoyance? I know that both Aponia and Su talk about the way they see the future in different ways. Su talks about how he bases his future prediction on forecasting by observing the environment and predicting the most likely outcome. Meanwhile, Aponia talks about how the way she sees fate is more engrained in hard determinism and the strings of fate based on the Greek Myth of the 3 Sisters of Fate.
Quantum theory goes hard
@@HomuLabs You're right. Su outright says that Aponia sees beyond reality.
"above reality" is how Su says it in JP
Isnt that Su's ability?
he describes that his ability is unlike aponia, since hers was the confirmation of fate, while his is based on the previous experience, and is therefore more of a prediction?
Aponia is by far my favorite character because of her elegant design and ber kindhearted nature. I really like her powers too.
How about the boings and thighs?
And yet i think she has the most threatening glare in the Valkyries menu
One thing to note you didnt mention. Aponia lost the ability to see fate after Elysia sacrificed herself. Either she did something to Aponia or the fate itself. I believe there was an amazing theory about this. Saying how fate of PE was predetermined from the start until Elysia changed it and Aponia is a proof of this.
Edit: And it turned out true...
Aponia conscience merging with the ER is an interesting speculation, but I can see how it can be true. Just her influence over Mei can be a good argument to sustain it.
to be fair, the ER simulations can kill anyone in the CE, so its highly likely their abilities can too
And nobody in the Current Era (except Mei and Kevin) will get to know about Aponia, unfortunately.
*Conclusion:* Humans are the real monsters. They slaughtered Rin! (Another one!)
Fate?
you forgot hua, but i don't think she know much about aponia
Aponia saying she will end mei if she takes advantage over griseo is so mother of her
I'm sure, being misunderstood is worse than being dead
i just think you should know but you’re doing a great job. i just got into honkai and having a creator like you explain the story and explain the background of the game really helps me feel more invested. i wish you the best and to let you know that you’re gonna blow up one day!
Thank you! These kind of comments mean a lot to me!
Thank you for making this, Aponia's character is barely understood or appreciated by the fandom
love this kind of videos, i admit so many text in-game that i can't understand even after reading or im just dumb this helps alot with explaining what is happening keep up the good work
I do love me some character analysis video. I haven't even dabbled that far into ER but you already gave me a better appreciation for Aponia's character.... beyond the obvious parts of her character we could uhhh..... appreciate. Anyway this was the same with Otto who I disliked since I didn't really see him beyond being "really evil" so thanks for the vids.
Love Aponia So Much And Her Character Too From The Moment I Meet Her In Chapter 3 I Just Start Feeling Sympathize For Her After Knowing Her Truth
As a returning HI3rd player who had a tenuous grasp of the nitty-gritty of the lore even before I got rusty, this guy is exactly what I needed.
your channel is so underrated i hope more ppl will get to see your good videos 👍
Mei said it the best, shes dangerous but not malicious
Shes my First S rank valk that i get from gacha,,
i new captain happy to know more about her,, love your video
your honkai lore videos really helped me to understand better bc sometimes my brain is too fried to contain all the info :"")
Fun fact one of the nun you used is Aldra from queen’s blade now queen’s blade actually has a lot darker lore in the manga. Fun fact I know a queen from this game she reminds of.
You help me alot understanding the story 😭
wait, did i misread aponias file and story, i thought she had the power of clairvoyance, not discipline before her mantis surgery xd
She tells Mei in of the recollections that at the time she was in Sundown Alley, she could not see the future yet. Otherwise she would have know about the fire and MOTH's involvement.
Going to triple check myself, but I'm sure that she had her Discipline from the beginning and gained the ability to see people's fate only after the fusion with Mitra's genes.
@@HomuLabs ah, then I'm pretty sure I misread it
@@HomuLabs i think she had both before becoming MANTIS. It's just that those abilities were enhanced. I might be wrong though since, as you know, too much info out there in honkai
Just watched all your videos You're doing a very splendid Job keep it up i was having difficulties with ER story line but now i understand Thanks for all these videos
Plzplzplz make a review video of Marcia Funebre chapter in the story! Nobody is talking about it! Theres a real empty space for honkai lore videos! And i feel like youre the right guy to be doing em!
1:16 Good part
Thanks for a great breakdown od Aponia! Now I feel I got her better 😉👍
Btw, wasnt Sakura and Kalpas looking forward to eliminate her to break down from her Discipline? In ER at least.
Not really. Sakura wanted her disciple, and even Kalpas was content with it. Sure, he was angry at her and said that he will kill her, but that's how Kalpas talks with everybody.
In Ch29, Sakura wants to get revenge because she found out about Rin's death. Kalpas is also mad because Sakura was the only one he considered a comrade and he was mad because everybody lied to her.
Hope she comes to the battle pass or gets a rerun soon 😢❤
dude im watching all your lore videos and theyre really good id love it if u made one for vita up to today tbh
Aponia" (Ancient Greek: ἀπονία) means the absence of pain, and was regarded by the Epicureans to be the height of bodily pleasure.well..her life and name are opposite a life of pain but her name is absence of pain
I want to give her a big hug
Can you do Vill-V next? Cuz I'm really confused yet intrigued by her
I plan to do Vill-V but it won't be next.
@@HomuLabs 3 months late but I have to say I really appreciate you listening to your community
OMFG TY FOR THIS!!!!
0:01 My mind immediately goes Dokutah?!
Great video. Love the channel
i love your videos!!!
can you do a character analysis about vill-v? shes a very interesting character
Working on it right now.
"CONFESS YOUR SINS!"
Funny that in game when I didn't engage battle with Aponia she lost her patience and starts obliterate me😇
I decided to learn about one Character from this and I am already depressed.
That Himeko slide how could you 😭😂
one thing this video gave me:
depression
Hi can we have a video that explains the story of the game
Yes, I plan to do a full summary of the main story in the future.
@@HomuLabs great 👍 can't wait for the video 😊 and can you do the manga
il faudrait que je créer des sous titres fr pour t'es vidéo, ça serait bien.
She, as a character is indeed really interesting...
So she is the personification of halping ? 🤔
Halping????
are you gonna do a vid on Vill V?
Does the lore explain how she got her powers even before being a MANTIS?
And why her eyes turn red is she demon 😅
I liked and subcried
What is she is she a religion or Catholic and is she nun😅