It sold well, but Farley Mowat was not an archaeologist or a biologist or a historian. He was a story teller. A popularizer. He found NL fascinating, too, as I do. @John Barber.
Quite true. I live in Ontario Canada and wild grapes grow all over the northeast. Birds love to eat the grapes and they spread the seeds everywhere. I have seen places where there were no grape vines then a few years later the place was covered with them, especially old fence rows around farm fields. Farley Mowat says he found an account by a French botanist who found grape vines in Newfoundland in the 1600s. In the period 800 - 1400 the climate was warmer than it is now and there were vineyards in England and other northern areas where they died out later. It is quite possible there were wild grapes growing in Newfoundland in 1000 AD.
@@mrdanforth3744 Have you been to that area of NL. NL is a lot cooler than you might think given its latitude. Grape vines are not plentiful at all now. I'd say there were probably many, many berries though. That may have given the fanciful author the idea of saying there were many grapevines. I was in the Grey Island in the summer of 1977 (late July and Early August). We were wearing heavy outdoor sweaters. Also, the water was so cold when we waded at a little beach that we couldn't stay in the water long. Nobody wanted to go swimming. I'd say that grapevines were fanciful.
Were there Vikings in Newfoundland? Around A.D. 1000, the medieval Norse (Vikings) established the first European settlement, on the northern coast of Newfoundland, but they only stayed for a brief period. So... jada :)
@@VikingNorway-pb5tm829 it had norse activity there for about a century and was built, circa 1000 AD and had a capacity to support 160+ people its in l'anse meadows in newfoundland, now we dont know how many people would have lived there at one given time but anywhere from 30 to around 100 with 160 being its max capacity that we know at the moment until we uncoverthe other long houses, either way it was a decent size settlement and fits the description of leif eriksons settlement, there are restored Greenlandic norse style long houses and other structures of the same style, it was norse greenlanders there is no doubt about it. Also what leif thought was grapes was actually gooseberries they make great wine to, they look alot like grapes as well and they are everywhere in newfoundland
The "Navigatio" by St Brendan was written in the 7th Century about his voyages to Canada. (Columbus had a copy). He wrote that he was not the first and other monks had sailed to North America, Iceland etc. This is where the vikings learned about it.
in general, agree... the Vikings followed the first "wave" of explorers and scattered settlers - not to minimize their accomplishments in repeated navigation in any way!
That is such a dumb misunderstanding. Voyage of St Brenan does not document finding Canada it documents finding 30 different islands all of whom are fiction. There was an island with an ethiopian devil, an island that sunk into the sea when someone lit a fire. Please do any bit of reserch before you post misleading comments
I grew up in St Anthony which is just a few kilometers from the Viking settlement in Vinland. I have been to the site a few times. I am no historian or an intellectual but I couldn't help wondering why "here", Its a barren spot with little shelter from winds, forests are a good distance away and its fairly lifeless in the way of wild animals but just a short distance away were natural harbors, forests, etc. Better still is the fact that if they sailed another couple of days south the climate improves dramatically. Sail a week more and your in the St Lawrence river or even North Eastern US. I just couldn't see why they would choose to stay in that spot. just an opinion from someone who has actually been there.
They probably just used that spot as temporary base. It is likely they went further south and even inland through the rivers and great lakes. The thing with Newfoundland however, is that this settlement is the only one that have actually been proven to be Norse. The climate were warmer 1000 years ago as well - which made the whole area more livable.
@@westerneurope1752 Yes. That spot is remote and relatively uninhabited today so proof of Viking presence has survived. They may well have been in other places further south.
Well they came from Iceland and Greenland , so the viking settlement in the beginning must have felt fantastic to them. Regardless, this is part of history we still need to explore
Certainly well done and incredibly informative, which is typical of Pines and Maples. Considering these were Scandinavian tribes-people of the Middle Ages, it really is unbelievable. It is a part of world history of which I must shamefully claim great ignorance. I plan to watch this a few more times and do peripheral research from there.
Agreed! Champlain would certainly be quite the historical spotlight. Moreover, if you haven't already seen it, I would highly recommend the LaSalle Documentary by the Pines and Maples team. Rene-Robert Cavelier, Sieur de La Salle, in my opinion, was an explorer in his own league; possibly unmatched by anyone else on the North American continent.
@@sarablueshoes6950 Hi ma'am, not to interrupt, I saw the post / comment, just had to say, Yes, that is uniquely a neat suggestion.... I find it nearly impossible now of days, to get any real full true history without it being edited or leaked as parts pieced together. & May I add, they do have more than a few researcher's out there, historical foundations historians who love real history & full truths no matter how ugly or beautiful it is. I've got friends who is into that mega over time daily searching, so ....I just thought as a unknown I'd share something.... Btw this is my alias name Theo or -Theordor , just call me P, Kay's.... I'd strongly advise anyone who likes history to watch things like the channel called our history, some of it is accurately true and a lot of other channels have some truth to it to, like history channel, and I found oddly things like ice age discovery channels to be very close to accurate as will get to the ancient past, an yes ma'am, you are reading from a very humble man of God who sweetly welcomes all 7.9 billion & hopes for the best always however history teaches us so much an I am one who is a well in the insight to history person to speak with, due to facts I gather all evidence before allowing it to be just so, and apply exact accurate dates to all things that will follow it's time lines long before ever letting a full doc to get away with just stating any old anything, & I believe if I said this right, ma'am, pines & maple is very accurate on 90.00 % of there docs, but that's uniquely different than most others who just state what's being taught in school systems or incorporated for mass media to indoctrinate to society, but actually history. Just wanted to drop in a friendly letter for you an say hi : ) . Hoping you an yours and your days are always blessed ones ~Theo
I hear the Vinland is translated to Vine land. In Norway you can fing places like Granvin, where the part Gran meaning spruce , and vin is tranlate to "natural grass covered field". I will not deny the intreprtation suggested here; that the name Vinland relate to grapes and vine, but it is interresting to know that vin can have a differnt meaning in Nordic.
But yet: the use of vin meaning a meadow is only known as a postfix, and not as a prefix. Thus the vin of Vinland is logically closer to the explanation and stories of winegrapes
another theroy of the grape claim is that they were mistaking blueberries as the do grow the size of small grapes and are very plentifull even today i can only imagine what they would be like then
@@westerneurope1752 If the writing was fanciful, the berries that are plentiful might have given the author the idea of talking about Vinland the Good (Vine Land the Good) to encourage settlement.
The Norse were likely settled anywhere anywhere they had access to glacial run-off, where they originated. I would argue that ‘Vine’ means stream, or sweet water. Water with zero dissolved solids and no bacterial growth is a great contributor to health. It was also part of Norse religion to drink only sweet water, glacial run-off and to establish their communities around this resource. ‘Vinland’ was a land of fresh water streams, as is apparent from the locales chosen by Viking explorers, immediately south of Greenland. The whole thing about grapes is Americo-centric nonsense applied to myth. They were looking for glacial run-off to establish their colonies, failing that, would gladly seek out fast running fresh water, such as you would find in L’Anse-Aux-Meadows.
You stated "..would gladly seek out fast running fresh water, such as you would find in L’Anse-Aux-Meadows.". Have you been to L'Anse aux Meadows or looked at the area on Google Maps or Google Earth? It sits on a swampy headland. No fast running fresh water there.
@@effingsix3825 It is a very small stream running for less than a mile out of Black Duck Pond. All the land around the settlement is low, rather flat, bogs, and small ponds. Lots of peat sod available for building their houses.
John Cabbot's memoirs state that when he arrived at the mouth of the (latter known as St. Lawrence) river, he encountered countless Basque fishermen fishing! This is 1496, for crying out load! Apparently the working class folks had done the "discovery" a long before the effete and the elite!
Very well done! Why do I hear Irish music in the background? Tracks by Wardruna or Hedningarna would have been better. Also, we should remember that the climate was much warmer during the ‘Viking Age’ - it was only later that the ‘Little Ice Age’ set in, destroying the Greenland colony (other commentators below have also stated this). Grapes, wild wheat and other varieties of game might well have been abundant in Newfoundland where, as we know, the only firm archaeological evidence of Viking settlement has so far been found.
Well done! You managed to pronounce my name correctly. Helluland is most likely Baffin Island. Hellu is the genetive of the word hella which means slab.
Can’t believe we still observe Columbus Day. I submitted a dna sample few years back on a whim. Thought I was a “double dipped” German. To my surprise, 80% Scandinavian. Norway, Sweden, Denmark some German and some UK. Who knew!
I’ve heard this argument before , but either way it’s the same conclusion. That it’s Newfoundland being that it’s full of grass land and prairies, and decently full with Berry’s and wild grapes . Saying this as a Canadian who’s bin.
@@JoeSmith-zg7in probably cuz the German guy in the saga mentioned the grapes , and people read that and thought vin = vine instead of doing their research
@@JoeSmith-zg7in Well I referred to the old Nordic/norse word vin not the south european word vin=wine. these days vin in e.g.Swedish is wine, but a thousand years ago vin could mean Meadow or Wine, like e.g. (right or right left or left)
That is just a theory cooked up by Helge Ingstad. It was not enough to find s norse settlement, but he had to prove it was the Vinland of the sagas. So he had to explain the name and the lack of grapes.
There is a relic in Southwestern Nova Scotia called the Runic stone , with Lief Ericsons name carved into it .It sat in the lobby of the town library where I lived in for many years and is quite well known by all the towns folk .
It wasn't Canada when the Vikings visited ..it was the First Nations. The Danish vikings ( ya they were half/half Danish/Norse by 1100 ad. ) visited what is today Greenland too. There were migrant hunters native there before them too.
I know I think Al Gore suppresses the truth. really. There are mooring holes bored in rock faces in natural coves and bays. its the way Norsemen anchored their ships. the boreholes are (at that time 1960) 13 feet higher than what would be needed This was in New England and Newfoundland
@@m.asquino7403 Since greenhouse gases are a group of different gases like water vapor, methane and CO2, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess they did...
So I would say that the Natives in general discovered North America. The reason being it doesn’t matter who you single out of the explorers and potential options. Such as Jacques Cartier-his story involves Natives, John Cabot-natives again, Christopher Columbus-Natives again, colonizers-killed Natives for land, Vikings-ran into Natives etc. It seems like no matter what you choose, the Natives were already there and had discovered the land.
I think you have it all backwards. I’m pretty sure the “colonizers” were the real natives and they were just defending their land from the savages that came later.
Great job on the transcription and reading of the Norse Saga's, but the discovery of a butternut shows that Vineland is probably in New Brunswick: "The discovery of three butternuts and a piece of butternut wood at L’Anse Aux Meadows have led archaeologists to look at New Brunswick as a possible site for Vinland. The piece of butternut wood was a burl; burl in Old Norse is mösurr. Butternuts grow in hardwood forests and require a long and warm growing season. They have never grown in Newfoundland. The nearest place they occur wild is northeastern New Brunswick. They also grow in the St. Lawrence Valley as far east as St. Paul’s Bay east of Quebec City. They are not native to either Prince Edward Island or Nova Scotia although some have been planted there in modern times." forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=43740.0
They were stopped at the Canadian/USA border. All their exploring had to be kept in Canada. This way, they would not meet the Irish fishermen who had been in the what later would be known as New England for generations.
They are probably meant as Vikings. But during the 1800's a romanticized version of Vikings evolved. These Vikings had winged, or horned helmets. A version of the Vikings created by ignorant painters.
@@LucidWanderer There are no archeological evidence of that. There is only one intact Viking helmet ever found, in Denmark. In Sweden we have the Vendel helmet (google). From the era that predates Vikings, that's how Viking helmets are thought to have looked like. None of them have horns.
not entirely true. Horned helmets were worn during religious rites and festivals. But yes, not worn during actual raiding or every-day use. Much too unpractical.
Good information is blighted by sad mispronunciations of common words, as well as Newfoundland, which is important here. While I like the information, I cannot show a class a reading where the reading is not properly done.
A good first effort to bring "Living History" to the fore. But, perhaps it might help to rehearse the script before rushing through it. Also, researching the proper pronunciation of unfamiliar places and names would be a good thing too. Nice start.
I was mystified by the mispronunciation. The narrator has a Canadian accent, but pronounces some things phonetically. Makes me wonder if this is actually an AI bot program. Growing up in eastern Canada, we had history lessons out the ying-yang and the pronunciation of common Canadian places is pretty basic. And I can't imagine an Anglophone mispronouncing "sword" as it looks.
the native peoples "discovered" America at the beginning of time period most others just moved here , and became part of the land , yet others came to conquer and exploit
I guess that explains the pre contact white DNA?Please explain how that works.Kenniwick Man was rather inconvenient to the standard narrative of the Native Land Claims industry.
Maybe people have always moved around, and civilisations have always risen and fallen based on the exploitation of available resources? If all mankind came from Africa, then isn't every human outside of Africa an invasive species?
@@rayhilchey6706 dr. Crawford of the University of Colorado. He's the one that translated the poetic Edda to English. He said the wording in the Kingston Stone was not correct for the time.
@@louisgunn8471 That is one opinion, there are others. My brother in law, Prof. John Dickson, before he retired was Chairman of the geology department at Queens University in Kingston. He was telling me of one of his research professors who was digging on an undisturbed glacial gravel deposit in Eastern Ontario,. He came across the skeleton of a horse that had been buried in a standing posture. Since it was an undisturbed deposit it must have been buried by humans. A subsequent radiocarbon dating gave approx. 900 AD. John told me of it and added that there was no place in academia to publish the find. Other European artifacts have been discovered in Ontario. Barry Fell attributes the Peterborough petroglyphs to Europeans and there is a school of thought saying that native copper nodes common to Northern Michigan were used for the European bronze age.
@@rayhilchey6706 I believe that the Scandinavians came to America. Sir Henry Sinclair was area of Scotland was part of Norway before it given to Scotland as a wedding present. He was supposed to have made a trip to North America. Columbus sailed in the North Sea so he could have gotten a idea from other sailor. It's really not that far from Greenland to North America.
@@covegoat9711 How Newfies pronounce it. New-fin-land....Newfinland. Pronounced as one word not 3 Don't pause at each syllable. I am from the Maritimes so I know how it's pronounced.
@@T.N.S.A.F. Different areas of the Island got their own distinct accent. I live in the conception bay area and not many people pronounce it Newfinland ,but in saying that one don't have to travel much distance to hear accent.
I'm only 64 generations longed in north America native mixed race man of God & thank you for this video! Yes in 729 A.D My Viking ancestor was tossed aside from his kingdom an moved far away from his Scandinavia an greenlend an Iceland, to north America in physical proof regardless of what they said, the Nordic red haired darker Caucasian skin toned green eyed man named Leif Erikson was not Leif the Great his grandfather or Leif the Red or Ragnar the Red, just Leif Erikson the explorer who founded north America in the north of right on the edge of North Carolina, in 729 A.D a blood kin to Leif Erikson the Red yes, still a Scandinavian / Norwegian man, & funny enough that Italian Monster Columbus the explorer in 1599 A.D at age 28 founded south America thinking he found North India by sheer mistake and called them all native Indians, but he was just a explorer with a very high paid corrupt wealthy man's paid and pampered royalty that was strictly taught superb education of the sea and sadly enough since he *"ONLY DISCOVERED"* documented on recorded records Sire / Sir, south America, he was still a explorer, and so close it wasn't even funny, to getting to north america by mistake nontheless, but he had did a lot of crazy things they never mentioned other than on scrolls and tablets translated to modern English language, finding it amazing how that truly happened also yes the Vikings did actually find many different lands, not just in north America and Canada, but in even parts of the middle east that they traded many metals, yes swords like the Uef+ber Sword that was actually a marks making technology only China & India actually had at that exact times for the Damascus metals, hence found those metals predating long before some 1100 ! More like Scandinavia 714 or 716 A.D give or take, during times of Hákon the Blue-Spears as his nickname was, High king of Scandinavia until Ragnar Lothbrok took over all that in the years to come . Well, I do pray and hope you all stay blessed, & thanks for your kind sharing of true complete full history Sir. Blessings, Sincerely, -Theordor
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@@bleachmaster99 My wife was a Newfoundlander and I spent much time there. No one I met there pronounced the "o" sound. But the main reason is that they do talk real fast!!!
I'd say Cristiforo Colombo had the best claim to 'discovering' north america. None of the other 'discoveries' amounted to anything whereas his set off a massive shift to populate and explore the new world.
Indeed, you are 1000% correct. However, we must remember that Columbo made his voyage during the Renaissance period, when culture, education, invention and bureaucratic organization were thriving. On the other hand, these were Scandinavian tribes people. It really is amazing that this was accomplished at the end of the Dark Ages. In truth, it was probably one of the stepping stones that helped begin the period of enlightenment.
I found a triangle shaped rock with a Viking Rune on it. It is in Saskatchewan. The Rune is the shape of a pitchfork. The Solutreans are the first people in North America.
I’m trying to understand why, in a video about Vikings, you mispronounce so many of their personal names and place names. Even more, I’m trying to understand why you glaringly mispronounce several coming English words, such as the word “malady.” Please explain whether you disregard the pronunciation guides in any dictionary on purpose, through accident, or through ignorance of how to read them.
No....we all know that the Vikings were in North & South America long before any Italian or Portuguese sailors ever set foot here. And there were other groups of sailors trading with people of the Americas long before the Vikings. The Egyptians and Phoenicians both has regular trading routes with the peoples of the Americas.
Please do proper research. Alþingið is not the oldest parliament in the world. You completely skip a major part of the Norse going west. They didn’t go directly to Iceland. They came to the Faroe Islands many years before, where the actual oldest parliament, Lögtingið, is located. The Faroese viking, Naddoddur, found Iceland by accident.
The names of most of the Canadian locations are downright painful. Wrong stresses and vowel sounds in most of them. Also, ch in French (like Hochelaga, a French transcription of a native word) is the shushing equivalent of a sh in English. Hosh-a-la-ga, primary stress on the third syllable and secondary stress on the first when sounded in English. Much more slurred together with different vowel sounds in French (different stresses too).
Immigration to iceland stopped after the little ice age snd eventually the viking explorers assimilated, died by random natural events or ran into native tribes. Disease is also a possible factor and death from eating unknown vegetation/wild animals
@@LurkerAnonymous the Rus could be supplied through constantinople and the rivers in between The new world was entirely hostile and supplies had to be brought back from the home. Especially after the little ice age. Dealing with all the natural phenomenon and bad luck,wild animals, foraging for food, low women survival rate,etc made creating a new colony really difficult. - it's also possible that vikings(sea raiders) assimilated into the native tribes for survival and moved to river systems and became farmers again.
Repeat after me: New Found Land. Newfoundland. Not newfinlend. We take offence to that. Say it right or don’t say it all. Even Canadians mess this up. Amazing video and content nonetheless, thank you.
I think that goes without saying given Native Americans were living there at the time the Europeans arrive. This does not mean the Europeans didn't discover the Americas, it just means the point when they became aware of the existence of the Americas.
Farley Mowatt wrote a great story about Innuit contact with the Vikings.
It sold well, but Farley Mowat was not an archaeologist or a biologist or a historian. He was a story teller. A popularizer. He found NL fascinating, too, as I do. @John Barber.
@@dinkster1729 what r u trying to say
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In Mowat's book 'The Alban Quest' or 'The Farfarers', he writes about contact with the Dorset people not the Inuit.
The climate was different 1000 years ago, you need to look at where grapes could have grown then, not where they grow now
yup I'm thinking nova Scotia or maybe towards the st Lawrence area Quebec now
Quite true. I live in Ontario Canada and wild grapes grow all over the northeast. Birds love to eat the grapes and they spread the seeds everywhere. I have seen places where there were no grape vines then a few years later the place was covered with them, especially old fence rows around farm fields. Farley Mowat says he found an account by a French botanist who found grape vines in Newfoundland in the 1600s. In the period 800 - 1400 the climate was warmer than it is now and there were vineyards in England and other northern areas where they died out later. It is quite possible there were wild grapes growing in Newfoundland in 1000 AD.
Thats true , it was warmer then .
Grapes would have grown easily in Nova Scotia at that time .
the french worried that the English would produce a better wine. Thank you I'm glad someone else reads history.
@@mrdanforth3744 Have you been to that area of NL. NL is a lot cooler than you might think given its latitude. Grape vines are not plentiful at all now. I'd say there were probably many, many berries though. That may have given the fanciful author the idea of saying there were many grapevines. I was in the Grey Island in the summer of 1977 (late July and Early August). We were wearing heavy outdoor sweaters. Also, the water was so cold when we waded at a little beach that we couldn't stay in the water long. Nobody wanted to go swimming. I'd say that grapevines were fanciful.
Vikings to Newfoundland should be the videos title.
Were there Vikings in Newfoundland?
Around A.D. 1000, the medieval Norse (Vikings) established the first European settlement, on the northern coast of Newfoundland, but they only stayed for a brief period. So... jada :)
@@VikingNorway-pb5tm829 it had norse activity there for about a century and was built, circa 1000 AD and had a capacity to support 160+ people its in l'anse meadows in newfoundland, now we dont know how many people would have lived there at one given time but anywhere from 30 to around 100 with 160 being its max capacity that we know at the moment until we uncoverthe other long houses, either way it was a decent size settlement and fits the description of leif eriksons settlement, there are restored Greenlandic norse style long houses and other structures of the same style, it was norse greenlanders there is no doubt about it. Also what leif thought was grapes was actually gooseberries they make great wine to, they look alot like grapes as well and they are everywhere in newfoundland
Leif Erikson didn't thought it. He had a German with him who grew up with grapes: Thyrker and knew the difference between grapes and other berries.
The "Navigatio" by St Brendan was written in the 7th Century about his voyages to Canada. (Columbus had a copy). He wrote that he was not the first and other monks had sailed to North America, Iceland etc. This is where the vikings learned about it.
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in general, agree... the Vikings followed the first "wave" of explorers and scattered settlers - not to minimize their accomplishments in repeated navigation in any way!
1,000 years before Columbus and 500 years before the Vikings.
That is such a dumb misunderstanding. Voyage of St Brenan does not document finding Canada it documents finding 30 different islands all of whom are fiction. There was an island with an ethiopian devil, an island that sunk into the sea when someone lit a fire. Please do any bit of reserch before you post misleading comments
@@lmtt123 peoples from Northern Asia beat them all by 13,000 years minimum. Eurocentric BS is funny.
Alberta Here - thanks for this history
Proof that a Viking Summer break / Vacation was the Best!
Thanks for this video. Best regards from a descendant of the Vikings, born in Odins city in Denmark 👍🗡🇩🇰
I grew up in St Anthony which is just a few kilometers from the Viking settlement in Vinland. I have been to the site a few times. I am no historian or an intellectual but I couldn't help wondering why "here", Its a barren spot with little shelter from winds, forests are a good distance away and its fairly lifeless in the way of wild animals but just a short distance away were natural harbors, forests, etc. Better still is the fact that if they sailed another couple of days south the climate improves dramatically. Sail a week more and your in the St Lawrence river or even North Eastern US. I just couldn't see why they would choose to stay in that spot. just an opinion from someone who has actually been there.
They probably just used that spot as temporary base. It is likely they went further south and even inland through the rivers and great lakes. The thing with Newfoundland however, is that this settlement is the only one that have actually been proven to be Norse. The climate were warmer 1000 years ago as well - which made the whole area more livable.
@@westerneurope1752 Yes. That spot is remote and relatively uninhabited today so proof of Viking presence has survived. They may well have been in other places further south.
Well they came from Iceland and Greenland , so the viking settlement in the beginning must have felt fantastic to them. Regardless, this is part of history we still need to explore
All they needed to live off of was the sea
The Vikings always lived in the northern parts of each country they took over lol they love ice and snow
Hey this is better than most of the large budget stuff coming from big producers....very well informed.
Except at 40 seconds in when they incorrectly say that Cabbot landed in Labrador in 1496.
He actually landed at Bonavista, Newfoundland in 1497.
Certainly well done and incredibly informative, which is typical of Pines and Maples. Considering these were Scandinavian tribes-people of the Middle Ages, it really is unbelievable. It is a part of world history of which I must shamefully claim great ignorance. I plan to watch this a few more times and do peripheral research from there.
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Excellent Canadian history. Thank you! Plz, do Samuel Du Champlain next!
Agreed! Champlain would certainly be quite the historical spotlight. Moreover, if you haven't already seen it, I would highly recommend the LaSalle Documentary by the Pines and Maples team. Rene-Robert Cavelier, Sieur de La Salle, in my opinion, was an explorer in his own league; possibly unmatched by anyone else on the North American continent.
@@zingwilder9989 Oooh! I will. Thank you 🍻
@@sarablueshoes6950 Hi ma'am, not to interrupt, I saw the post / comment, just had to say, Yes, that is uniquely a neat suggestion....
I find it nearly impossible now of days, to get any real full true history without it being edited or leaked as parts pieced together.
& May I add, they do have more than a few researcher's out there, historical foundations historians who love real history & full truths no matter how ugly or beautiful it is.
I've got friends who is into that mega over time daily searching, so ....I just thought as a unknown I'd share something....
Btw this is my alias name Theo or -Theordor , just call me P, Kay's....
I'd strongly advise anyone who likes history to watch things like the channel called our history, some of it is accurately true and a lot of other channels have some truth to it to, like history channel, and I found oddly things like ice age discovery channels to be very close to accurate as will get to the ancient past, an yes ma'am, you are reading from a very humble man of God who sweetly welcomes all 7.9 billion & hopes for the best always however history teaches us so much an I am one who is a well in the insight to history person to speak with, due to facts I gather all evidence before allowing it to be just so, and apply exact accurate dates to all things that will follow it's time lines long before ever letting a full doc to get away with just stating any old anything, & I believe if I said this right, ma'am, pines & maple is very accurate on 90.00 % of there docs, but that's uniquely different than most others who just state what's being taught in school systems or incorporated for mass media to indoctrinate to society, but actually history.
Just wanted to drop in a friendly letter for you an say hi : ) .
Hoping you an yours and your days are always blessed ones
~Theo
I hear the Vinland is translated to Vine land. In Norway you can fing places like Granvin, where the part Gran meaning spruce , and vin is tranlate to "natural grass covered field". I will not deny the intreprtation suggested here; that the name Vinland relate to grapes and vine, but it is interresting to know that vin can have a differnt meaning in Nordic.
But yet: the use of vin meaning a meadow is only known as a postfix, and not as a prefix. Thus the vin of Vinland is logically closer to the explanation and stories of winegrapes
Its well known the Icelanders have been here in manitoba since the days of the saga
another theroy of the grape claim is that they were mistaking blueberries as the do grow the size of small grapes and are very plentifull even today i can only imagine what they would be like then
Yes blueberries, that makes sense. Good thinking Evan.
They may also have been wild grapes. They are very small.
They were not mistaken. Blueberrys are very common in Norway and the rest of Scandinavia. They could tell the difference.
@@westerneurope1752 Indeed, they knew their wine, all right
@@westerneurope1752 If the writing was fanciful, the berries that are plentiful might have given the author the idea of talking about Vinland the Good (Vine Land the Good) to encourage settlement.
How about further south to New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Rhode Island?
Great video, thanks for posting
The Norse were likely settled anywhere anywhere they had access to glacial run-off, where they originated. I would argue that ‘Vine’ means stream, or sweet water. Water with zero dissolved solids and no bacterial growth is a great contributor to health. It was also part of Norse religion to drink only sweet water, glacial run-off and to establish their communities around this resource. ‘Vinland’ was a land of fresh water streams, as is apparent from the locales chosen by Viking explorers, immediately south of Greenland. The whole thing about grapes is Americo-centric nonsense applied to myth. They were looking for glacial run-off to establish their colonies, failing that, would gladly seek out fast running fresh water, such as you would find in L’Anse-Aux-Meadows.
Your theses is rather odd. Have you every been to Canada's eastern coast? There is fresh running water just about everywhere.
You stated "..would gladly seek out fast running fresh water, such as you would find in L’Anse-Aux-Meadows.". Have you been to L'Anse aux Meadows or looked at the area on Google Maps or Google Earth? It sits on a swampy headland. No fast running fresh water there.
The historic site is situated right beside a flowing river, which is bound to have significant run-off.
@@effingsix3825 It is a very small stream running for less than a mile out of Black Duck Pond. All the land around the settlement is low, rather flat, bogs, and small ponds. Lots of peat sod available for building their houses.
And your point is?
Wow good work
John Cabbot's memoirs state that when he arrived at the mouth of the (latter known as St. Lawrence) river, he encountered countless Basque fishermen fishing! This is 1496, for crying out load! Apparently the working class folks had done the "discovery" a long before the effete and the elite!
This was beautiful. Well done!
Good info to get
Very well done! Why do I hear Irish music in the background? Tracks by Wardruna or Hedningarna would have been better. Also, we should remember that the climate was much warmer during the ‘Viking Age’ - it was only later that the ‘Little Ice Age’ set in, destroying the Greenland colony (other commentators below have also stated this). Grapes, wild wheat and other varieties of game might well have been abundant in Newfoundland where, as we know, the only firm archaeological evidence of Viking settlement has so far been found.
The question begs to be answered; why the amnesia?
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Well done! You managed to pronounce my name correctly. Helluland is most likely Baffin Island. Hellu is the genetive of the word hella which means slab.
Can’t believe we still observe Columbus Day. I submitted a dna sample few years back on a whim. Thought I was a “double dipped” German. To my surprise, 80% Scandinavian. Norway, Sweden, Denmark some German and some UK. Who knew!
Would you be happy if Columbus Day is morphed into Native American day as it is soon to be? Well?
Only Americans observe that silly holiday lol not here in Canada. Your Columbus day in USa is our Canadain Thanksgiving long weekend lol
The old nordic word vin dosen´t refer to wine. Vin= (vång/äng) means meadow, so vinland refer to grasslands/ meadowland
I’ve heard this argument before , but either way it’s the same conclusion. That it’s Newfoundland being that it’s full of grass land and prairies, and decently full with Berry’s and wild grapes . Saying this as a Canadian who’s bin.
Vineyard must mean meadowyard.so where did the grapes come from.
@@JoeSmith-zg7in probably cuz the German guy in the saga mentioned the grapes , and people read that and thought vin = vine instead of doing their research
@@JoeSmith-zg7in Well I referred to the old Nordic/norse word vin not the south european word vin=wine. these days vin in e.g.Swedish is wine, but a thousand years ago vin could mean Meadow or Wine, like e.g. (right or right left or left)
That is just a theory cooked up by Helge Ingstad. It was not enough to find s norse settlement, but he had to prove it was the Vinland of the sagas. So he had to explain the name and the lack of grapes.
I have a special love for canadians who have Nordic heritage it is beyond my understanding
Da Vikings must have been on a Molson run, eh?
It was a Labatt's run.
It was Black Horse beer. A fine Newfoundland tradition.
All of these beers are crapola@@EdinburghFive
Brendan the Navigator was the first European in the Americas.
Yes the Irish monk. In leather boats.
There's legends of viking in Northern ONT they say natives drove them out because Vikings where brutal.
legends? lol but no proof
@@bonbonvegabon there's is . Lake Nipigon has old Rock painting about people throwing rocks big boat's with crosses. Ask any elder around here.
There is a relic in Southwestern
Nova Scotia called the Runic stone , with Lief Ericsons name carved into it .It sat in the lobby of the town library where I lived in for many years and is quite well known by all the towns folk .
What town? -from pei
@@canadianmmaguy7511
Yarmouth .
@@canadianmmaguy7511
Yarmouth NS
About 300 k west of Halifax
Wait a minute. Is that H John Benjamin?
It wasn't Canada when the Vikings visited ..it was the First Nations. The Danish vikings ( ya they were half/half Danish/Norse by 1100 ad. ) visited what is today Greenland too. There were migrant hunters native there before them too.
Everyone gets conquered at some point. AND Indians were constantly doing THAT through ALL of their histories, from coast to coast.
Are MARSON en 936
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the PAPEY before him.
( landamabok & saga eirik raure )
KENAVO
This should be Vikings Valhalla season four who’s with me?
Yes I agree - but it’s over - entertaining but far from historically accurate - show had Leif Erickson in England, Novgorod, Constantinople 😂🤣
@@jvg3fiona this was very telling as well! ruclips.net/video/LolqCt_zPGo/видео.htmlsi=k7XULERCF6WeGtXW
What will really flip you lid is that mariners had been fishing these water for hundreds of years before actual land fall.
The world was a lot warmer back then.
Without SUVs
Shhhh don't tell anyone, you're not supposed to know.
How dare you!!!
I know I think Al Gore suppresses the truth. really. There are mooring holes bored in rock faces in natural coves and bays. its the way Norsemen anchored their ships. the boreholes are (at that time 1960) 13 feet higher than what would be needed This was in New England and Newfoundland
Just a little warmer. Well known. Has nothing to do with present climate change.
Did they have green house gasses back then
@@m.asquino7403 Since greenhouse gases are a group of different gases like water vapor, methane and CO2, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess they did...
Narrated by H. Jon Benjamin (Ben from TV's Dr. Katz).
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So I would say that the Natives in general discovered North America. The reason being it doesn’t matter who you single out of the explorers and potential options. Such as Jacques Cartier-his story involves Natives, John Cabot-natives again, Christopher Columbus-Natives again, colonizers-killed Natives for land, Vikings-ran into Natives etc. It seems like no matter what you choose, the Natives were already there and had discovered the land.
SO What?? Everyone gets conquered at some point. AND Indians were consyantly doing THAT through their histories, from coast to coast.
I think you have it all backwards. I’m pretty sure the “colonizers” were the real natives and they were just defending their land from the savages that came later.
Great job on the transcription and reading of the Norse Saga's, but the discovery of a butternut shows that Vineland is probably in New Brunswick:
"The discovery of three butternuts and a piece of butternut wood at L’Anse Aux Meadows have led archaeologists to look at New Brunswick as a possible site for Vinland. The piece of butternut wood was a burl; burl in Old Norse is mösurr.
Butternuts grow in hardwood forests and require a long and warm growing season. They have never grown in Newfoundland. The nearest place they occur wild is northeastern New Brunswick. They also grow in the St. Lawrence Valley as far east as St. Paul’s Bay east of Quebec City. They are not native to either Prince Edward Island or Nova Scotia although some have been planted there in modern times."
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follow the grapes , don't assume an intelligent worldly crew wouldn't know grapes from gooseberry , especially a German
Or damsens, or any of the other larger barriers and tree growing fruits here in Newfoundland.
Leif is pronounced with a difthong in the middle, e-i, so its not "Liif" Eriksson.
Well, the video is ok, even if the names are not pronounced properly, I think. 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
They were stopped at the Canadian/USA border. All their exploring had to be kept in Canada. This way, they would not meet the Irish fishermen who had been in the what later would be known as New England for generations.
1:14 this is not a viking bcs they did not wear horned helmets
They are probably meant as Vikings. But during the 1800's a romanticized version of Vikings evolved. These Vikings had winged, or horned helmets. A version of the Vikings created by ignorant painters.
The did wear horned ceremonial helmets for cultural purposes
@@LucidWanderer There are no archeological evidence of that. There is only one intact Viking helmet ever found, in Denmark. In Sweden we have the Vendel helmet (google). From the era that predates Vikings, that's how Viking helmets are thought to have looked like. None of them have horns.
not entirely true. Horned helmets were worn during religious rites and festivals. But yes, not worn during actual raiding or every-day use. Much too unpractical.
@@cardboardempire Based on what evidences?
Good information is blighted by sad mispronunciations of common words, as well as Newfoundland, which is important here. While I like the information, I cannot show a class a reading where the reading is not properly done.
He says New Finland.
A good first effort to bring "Living History" to the fore. But, perhaps it might help to rehearse the script before rushing through it. Also, researching the proper pronunciation of unfamiliar places and names would be a good thing too. Nice start.
I live in Newfoundland. Born and raised, and I live 12 hours of driving from the only known settlement that the Norse have in North America
@@bleachmaster99 Cool!
Also, researching the pronunciation of common words.
I was mystified by the mispronunciation. The narrator has a Canadian accent, but pronounces some things phonetically. Makes me wonder if this is actually an AI bot program. Growing up in eastern Canada, we had history lessons out the ying-yang and the pronunciation of common Canadian places is pretty basic. And I can't imagine an Anglophone mispronouncing "sword" as it looks.
There is no such place as Newfinland. It's Newfoundland. Say "understand." Now say "Newfoundland."
I've always heard it pronounced newfin-land or newfinland
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Then you've always heard it pronounced incorrectly.
@@johnt8636 weird. A have a lot of friends from there, - from pei
@@canadianmmaguy7511
Bad habits are easy to pick up, especially with language.
Who gives a shit?
the native peoples "discovered" America at the beginning of time period most others just moved here , and became part of the land , yet others came to conquer and exploit
I guess that explains the pre contact white DNA?Please explain how that works.Kenniwick Man was rather inconvenient to the standard narrative of the Native Land Claims industry.
@@davidkgreenGEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
What of the "Red Headed Giants" that lived in North America BEFORE "Native Peoples" got there?
Maybe people have always moved around, and civilisations have always risen and fallen based on the exploitation of available resources?
If all mankind came from Africa, then isn't every human outside of Africa an invasive species?
@@brenton2561 I believe Darwinian selection also plays a huge role.
On arrival they said" fuck it is too cold here, let's go home"!
fun graphics
The MicMacs of Nova Scotia have tales of a Montgomery of Templar Fame and helping him build his island.
Mi'kmaq
There were European travelers in Canada long before the Vikings. To follow the controversy read Barr Fell also google The Kensington Rune Stone
The Kingston stone is a fake.
@@louisgunn8471 Oh is that so, and what it what in your extraordinarily educated opinion proves that?
@@rayhilchey6706 dr. Crawford of the University of Colorado. He's the one that translated the poetic Edda to English. He said the wording in the Kingston Stone was not correct for the time.
@@louisgunn8471 That is one opinion, there are others. My brother in law, Prof. John Dickson, before he retired was Chairman of the geology department at Queens University in Kingston. He was telling me of one of his research professors who was digging on an undisturbed glacial gravel deposit in Eastern Ontario,. He came across the skeleton of a horse that had been buried in a standing posture. Since it was an undisturbed deposit it must have been buried by humans. A subsequent radiocarbon dating gave approx. 900 AD. John told me of it and added that there was no place in academia to publish the find. Other European artifacts have been discovered in Ontario. Barry Fell attributes the Peterborough petroglyphs to Europeans and there is a school of thought saying that native copper nodes common to Northern Michigan were used for the European bronze age.
@@rayhilchey6706 I believe that the Scandinavians came to America. Sir Henry Sinclair was area of Scotland was part of Norway before it given to Scotland as a wedding present. He was supposed to have made a trip to North America. Columbus sailed in the North Sea so he could have gotten a idea from other sailor. It's really not that far from Greenland to North America.
According to the latest season of The Curse of Oak Island the Vikings were in Nova Scotia around the same time that they were in Newfoundland
Brendan the navigator did it first by boat
It was vine land the name America came later
Columbus landed in Hispaniola. Not Cuba. Sheesh. Hispaniola is the island of Haiti and the Dominican Republic.
Columbus most certainly did land in Cuba. Actually he landed there during each of his four voyages.
If you ask a Black person you may discover that Amaru Khans were already on Turtle's back before Otter brought up the First Dirt.
New found land...
Yes correct pronunciation. Not Fin or Fund.
@@covegoat9711 How Newfies pronounce it.
New-fin-land....Newfinland. Pronounced as one word not 3 Don't pause at each syllable.
I am from the Maritimes so I know how it's pronounced.
@@T.N.S.A.F. Different areas of the Island got their own distinct accent. I live in the conception bay area and not many people pronounce it Newfinland ,but in saying that one don't have to travel much distance to hear accent.
WRONG. Its pronounced NEW FAW LAN. im from there
WRONG. Its pronounced NEW FAW LAN. im from there@@covegoat9711
I'm only 64 generations longed in north America native mixed race man of God & thank you for this video! Yes in 729 A.D My Viking ancestor was tossed aside from his kingdom an moved far away from his Scandinavia an greenlend an Iceland, to north America in physical proof regardless of what they said, the Nordic red haired darker Caucasian skin toned green eyed man named Leif Erikson was not Leif the Great his grandfather or Leif the Red or Ragnar the Red, just Leif Erikson the explorer who founded north America in the north of right on the edge of North Carolina, in 729 A.D a blood kin to Leif Erikson the Red yes, still a Scandinavian / Norwegian man, & funny enough that Italian Monster Columbus the explorer in 1599 A.D at age 28 founded south America thinking he found North India by sheer mistake and called them all native Indians, but he was just a explorer with a very high paid corrupt wealthy man's paid and pampered royalty that was strictly taught superb education of the sea and sadly enough since he *"ONLY DISCOVERED"* documented on recorded records Sire / Sir, south America, he was still a explorer, and so close it wasn't even funny, to getting to north america by mistake nontheless, but he had did a lot of crazy things they never mentioned other than on scrolls and tablets translated to modern English language, finding it amazing how that truly happened also yes the Vikings did actually find many different lands, not just in north America and Canada, but in even parts of the middle east that they traded many metals, yes swords like the Uef+ber Sword that was actually a marks making technology only China & India actually had at that exact times for the Damascus metals, hence found those metals predating long before some 1100 ! More like Scandinavia 714 or 716 A.D give or take, during times of Hákon the Blue-Spears as his nickname was, High king of Scandinavia until Ragnar Lothbrok took over all that in the years to come .
Well, I do pray and hope you all stay blessed, & thanks for your kind sharing of true complete full history Sir.
Blessings,
Sincerely,
-Theordor
Do more drugs dude. Ever heard of a run on sentence?
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I can't see who was writing / harassing me, so I apologize folks for them....
When summer came they went thieving...
It is NewFOUNDland
Pronounce it as if it was spelled like this "NewfundLAND" with the emphasis on the last syllable and the "u" omitted.
Sorry, my bad, I meant the "o" omitted!!!
@@josephwolfe1833 You are supposed to pronounce the o. We just speak so fast here.
@@bleachmaster99 My wife was a Newfoundlander and I spent much time there. No one I met there pronounced the "o" sound. But the main reason is that they do talk real fast!!!
From a much older language than English it is Talamh an Eisc fhe land of fish
I'd say Cristiforo Colombo had the best claim to 'discovering' north america. None of the other 'discoveries' amounted to anything whereas his set off a massive shift to populate and explore the new world.
Indeed, you are 1000% correct. However, we must remember that Columbo made his voyage during the Renaissance period, when culture, education, invention and bureaucratic organization were thriving. On the other hand, these were Scandinavian tribes people. It really is amazing that this was accomplished at the end of the Dark Ages. In truth, it was probably one of the stepping stones that helped begin the period of enlightenment.
Vinland had to be south of Canada in America somewhere...
Where shall I Hide thy Weed; Under Pines and Maple so the eyes in the sky cant see... 🤔
very good, they all drank brador
I found a triangle shaped rock with a Viking Rune on it. It is in Saskatchewan. The Rune is the shape of a pitchfork. The Solutreans are the first people in North America.
Great job avoiding jacques Cartier in your intro...
Time to change history books.
GIMLI ! wow
I’m trying to understand why, in a video about Vikings, you mispronounce so many of their personal names and place names. Even more, I’m trying to understand why you glaringly mispronounce several coming English words, such as the word “malady.” Please explain whether you disregard the pronunciation guides in any dictionary on purpose, through accident, or through ignorance of how to read them.
No....we all know that the Vikings were in North & South America long before any Italian or Portuguese sailors ever set foot here.
And there were other groups of sailors trading with people of the Americas long before the Vikings. The Egyptians and Phoenicians both has regular trading routes with the peoples of the Americas.
Where is your proof?
Fridas sounds like a crazy woman!
The Inca kings of Peru South America were mummified with their dogs. A Danish breed.
I have never encountered such a detailed account of the events and I doubt the truth that these sources exist.
I they are siting old norse mythology.
Likely the Viking settlements would be in the vicinity of glacial run-off.
The Vikings (Norse) were not all from areas close to glaciers. Most were not. How do you explain the Norse in Sweden, for example?
Who discovered England? The Vikings
Anglos Saxons from germany brits arnt roman
@@ogacid3547 thats like saying america was discovered by natives
@@빙고100 it was tho ? I mean the ppl who discovered was the cetrics
@@빙고100 from England at least
Or Scotland *
Please do proper research.
Alþingið is not the oldest parliament in the world.
You completely skip a major part of the Norse going west. They didn’t go directly to Iceland. They came to the Faroe Islands many years before, where the actual oldest parliament, Lögtingið, is located.
The Faroese viking, Naddoddur, found Iceland by accident.
Prononcation mistakes throughout. For example, generally the "w" in sword is silent.
The names of most of the Canadian locations are downright painful. Wrong stresses and vowel sounds in most of them. Also, ch in French (like Hochelaga, a French transcription of a native word) is the shushing equivalent of a sh in English. Hosh-a-la-ga, primary stress on the third syllable and secondary stress on the first when sounded in English. Much more slurred together with different vowel sounds in French (different stresses too).
And "maLAdy" instead of "MAlady".
Cool. I learned that vikings spoke shakesperian english.
maybe, maybe not.
Is this read by AI or a live human? He doesn't seem to know how to pronounce common English words.
Old news learned 60 years ago...nothing new
Actualy this is where all the Mythologeys orgin from when the world was young.and some of the cradles of civ.
Man, I wish norsemen would've colonized the americas.
Immigration to iceland stopped after the little ice age snd eventually the viking explorers assimilated, died by random natural events or ran into native tribes. Disease is also a possible factor and death from eating unknown vegetation/wild animals
@@canadianmmaguy7511 they should've established a permanent kingdom like they did with Rus.
@@LurkerAnonymous the Rus could be supplied through constantinople and the rivers in between
The new world was entirely hostile and supplies had to be brought back from the home.
Especially after the little ice age.
Dealing with all the natural phenomenon and bad luck,wild animals, foraging for food, low women survival rate,etc made creating a new colony really difficult.
- it's also possible that vikings(sea raiders) assimilated into the native tribes for survival and moved to river systems and became farmers again.
@@canadianmmaguy7511 But a man can dream...
@@LurkerAnonymous sadly the vikings were turned into knights and eventually freemasons
Amateurish at best
Well. Vikings never had hornet helmets. And no Wings😂😂😂😂
Repeat after me: New Found Land. Newfoundland. Not newfinlend. We take offence to that. Say it right or don’t say it all. Even Canadians mess this up.
Amazing video and content nonetheless, thank you.
Amazing in accuracies indeed!
the Native Americans who were Asians originally discovered The Americas long long before any Europeans.
I think that goes without saying given Native Americans were living there at the time the Europeans arrive. This does not mean the Europeans didn't discover the Americas, it just means the point when they became aware of the existence of the Americas.
Yeah, no 💩.
Good grief; lots of mispronounciation.
lame and boring