The Front Bench: Public Service Unions Vs. Feds on in-office work | Power Play with Vassy Kapelos
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- Saeed Selvam, Shakir Chambers, Karl Bélanger and Marieke Walsh on the “summer of discontent” threatened by Canada’s largest federal public sector unions
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Time to downsize government.
Long overdue. LOOOOOOOOOOONG overdue!
However what does Trudeau do? He BLOTS the size of government by 40%! Why?!?!
Canada is a dog with fleas under this Liberal/NDP government.
Maybe its time to start downsizing
Yes, start with 100,000
They are with office buildings
Yup..
Long past
That will just create more wait times for services such as passports. Hurts everyone.
Anyone that wants to strike because of not wanting to go to work should be fired.
Let's get this straight... we've INCREASED the number of public workers by 40%, and services have gotten worse... and the location of work is an employer's right...
Now they are threatening disruptions... not sure the public would notice any disruption given the recent performance and accessibility of services.
Sounds like it's time to let them walk, and help with some cost savings.
Since 2017 number of public employees increased by over 40%. The same or lower workload, worse service quality.
To be fair though, Trudeau government did outsourcing all the big contracts at 10x the cost for no reason.
They also hire more outside consultants than ever before and bill the taxpayer
They have an entitled Attitude that’s quite disturbing.
Comes from the top! Liberals', entitled, corrupt, & inept
Fire these entitled public sector workers,they're already doing a horrible job
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Carl let them take a bus if they’re so concerned about the environment.
Exactly
😂😂😂😂😂😂climate change. Stop the bolognese. Get your asses to work and actually start working
Let’s make this 5 days a week!
Maybe extending work hours also so that they can actually get through the backlog. Someone needs to be supervising these workers to ensure that the work actually gets DOWN and someone being accountable for all their failures
@@Dovelly2024-yq4yy thes unions need to have there place showen again!
Heaven forbid they have to physical go to work, like millions of Canadians do each and everyday. Poor union workers
You know, that’s elementary school mentality right there. Know what I mean?
Get your asses back to the office. Anyone on strike obviously doesn’t need the job.
No one's on strike
Increase traffic in Ottawa. Increase taxes as the government will need to add more leased buildings and renovate old buildings to accommodate all the workers.
Time for our government to clean house like Argentina.
yes i agree...
Totally
I like that the workers are saying that they're more productive.. LoL 😆
Go back to work !! 😊
We never stopped working
I live in this entitled city and every day I see government workers walking their COVID dogs, playing with their children and working on their gardens. This is the most entitled and lazy city I have ever lived in. Get to work because considering a 40% increase in the public workforce, NO services are better.
It's in their name.-Public Services. The public isn't in your livingroom.
But therr is no service. More like extortion of tax payer money.
You realize most public services are hosted out of country, right?
Clown Karl is so removed from the private sector.
They should be going back 5 days a week!
These public sector workers need the butts kicked. Working from home should have been temporary due to
The pandemic which is over.
It should be the way of the future. All companies should be moving this way. Why do you want to pay extra tax dollars to pay for an office building and maintenance of that building when these ppl can work from home for cheaper?
Just curious, why do you care? If it doesn't effect service to the public or tax payer money what is it doing other that adding more traffic to the roads?
@@RMEMH1
I absolutely care, because their supervisors are telling them for a better service. They need to be in the office. That service, it’s supposed to supply me with the service that I paid for.
I’m sick and tired of having workers telling the bosses what’s going to happen and what’s not gonna happen.
It’s pretty straightforward, go to work, or find a new job … and not one of these idiots just gonna find a job that pays nearly what they get paid for doing nothing at home…
@@RMEMH1 it does affect everything, if their productivity IS lower then it impacts our taxes and services and what the public sector gets leads the demands in the private sector. I’ve had many experiences of work from home calls but private and public and this is what have experienced. Having to wait (not on hold but able to hear) while some went to fetch their escaping dog, tv in the background, another call while school lunches were being made by the person on the call speaking to her multiple children while servicing my call, being told that my call was being transferred to a private phone and may not be as secure did I want to continue (that was either CRA). The other issue is the length of time it takes for call backs during the time must we’re working from home so I can’t imagine that has improved. Then there’s the impact on society in general as work is a huge source of social that has become clearly challenged to the point where we are no longer able to even be courteous to each other. I have been on group meetings and when there is more than one person not on site the meetings become less communicative. This is a fact. That means even meetings are less productive, possibly even losing context.
@@Ont785That's not even the governments argument, as stated in this video. They haven't provided a reason for the change, which is the biggest issue.
You're very much advocating for no workers rights, as the bosses should get to dictate workers lives. Such an asinine belief that directly undermine the labour rights previous generations have fought for. If you're so salty about them working from home, do the same and go get a new job.
Making me bring my REMOTE setup to the office to do in person remote work is just the dumbest thing ever
3 days a week?. SERIOUSLY!!!!!. I work 7 days a for 3 weeks straight before I get any days off. Even then it's only 2. Of course they have to bring up climate change, I mean why not. (Groan). If they really want to fight emmisions, reduce the size of government. No more commuting.
Proud of you
Can't agree more
Oil patch boy?
@@kurtperner4665 Yup, pure blooded Alberta rig pig lol.
Let me tell you something that a lot of ppl don't know. A few of my friends who work for the Feds told me there are a lot of employees got the exemption to work from home. This back to work 3 days a week mandate is for the ones who are already back to office 2 days a week. Also, some employees that moved to a different city can continue to work from home.
boo hoo poor public sector workers it must be quite the hardship to have to work for thier golden pay
Should be in the office 5 days a week. Stop pandering to the union, if the workers don't like it find another job
i can't even believe we are even having this conversation! Public Service is seriously self-entitled. I want the money but not the responsibility! you can't build a culture when everyone is at home!
Wow, got to work for three days instead of two days
Got the world's smallest violin ready.
Go back to work or stay home unemployed.
If you go to Work-we Pay you. If you don't go to work-we Don't pay you. Simple enough ?
We do work...just not in a building where there's no parking or cafeterias
@@dokterbankenstein8799 poor baby!
We’ve all had discontent. We have to get up every day and go to work. So should these complainers
I know some really talented members of the public service who have been seriously considering making the jump to the private sector for wayyy more lucrative jobs. This will be a huge factor in their decision.
If you are a Public Servant going on strike to work from home is 100% a stupid idea!
Nothing like calling CRA and struggling to communicate with someone who can't speak English and more concerned with making dinner and banging pots and pans. Work in an office or look for another job.
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DEI in action.
I don't mind if the workers work from home where it makes sense. I would expect that they take a 20% pay cut for doing so. No more transportation costs, reduced wardrobe, lower car insurance costs etc. The taxpayers should be refunded for the extra costs they are paying.
Might be the dumbest thing I've read on here. Enjoy the food lines in retirement, Paul
I’ve never seen stores and golf courses so busy mid day throughout the week. Not sure how much “working” is actually going on at home.
🎻 3 whole days.
Someone explain to me why the Federal Government has a Tourism Minister while every province has one as well. What a complete replication of service. The Feds should cut that entire department, not needed, the provinces do it. They promote their province and by extension Canada. How much would that save.
Too many public "workers." Time to downsize for what they actually do. The work week is Monday to Friday. 5 days a week. Tax payers are paying their wages to go to work, not stay home half of the week
Ok, let’s all work from home on the farm, get those horse and buggies out and save the world
I have been a tradesman with the government for 30 years. 5 days a week 8 hours a day. Worked during covid to keep the shop running . Forced to get my shots to keep my pension and job. The nature of my work requires me to be at work everyday. I have no problem with that. The fact is I disagree with our union on most things. We are called " Public Service " for a reason...because we are supposed to serve the public. Some of you entitled office worker types should try it. If the public does not get something. Neither should we. If I was in charge it would not be 3 days it would be 5 days a week.
I have to wonder if those of you working from home are the reason my pay is still not right.
It's A proven fact, productivity is down when working remotely.
The truth is the economy is suffering. Businesses are failing in the area where there are public service buildings. Small businesses matter.
Small businesses are failing due to the state of the economy. Public servants aren’t going to be the problem solvers either if they’re feeling pinched too going downtown.
@zserbs2326 it's one drop in the bucket at least
I think IF they CAN do their work from home - then there is no valid reason to insist that they MUST be at the office. I know - when I was very BUSY with work - I COULD get more done/more efficiently working FROM home.
Same
@tracythomson2604 Prove you were more efficient & productive while working from home. What was your job & was it really necessary if you could do it from home? What was the cost of the home office to the company? Where did you have your home office in your home? Did you have others that accessed that space? So many questions.
@@AellaMaude-oy9qn LOL I am not on trial and do not feel the NEED to 'prove' anything to you (or anyone else). You have a lovely day now. Try to find a hobby or someplace to invest that excess energy dear.
I think they are more afraid of AI taking over their jobs than having to drive into work. Just think about it. AI and websites can do 3/4 of gov't workers' jobs. In 5 years there should be 1/5 of the amount of gov't employees due to AI streamlining.
The only reason they want them back in the office is to support businesses in downtown Ottawa
Are Canadians getting their money's worth from the public sector employees ? I don't think so and most Canadians feel that way
I found it interesting that 2 out of the 5 speakers in this segment were sucessfully doing their jobs via Zoom.
Karl... because it's their job!!!
They were hired at 5 days per week!
Climate change, hahahahaha!
Have you ever tried to get any service? They need to be back in the office
If they go to work in an office then they have to deal with narcissistic supervisors and co-workers.
The answer is simple... they lied about the productivity and now it'd biting them
Too many government employees already.
Who exactly says most hybrid workers are in the office twice a week? The public union heads? Most private sector employees (the ones who pay the public sector salaries) have been back 3 or more days a week for well over a year.
Imagine having this conversation 10 years ago. It's laughable that the unions think this will fly today.
I guess Canada needs more unemployed public sector employees. I hope our new Prime Minister will clean house of all this deadwood
What about wanting them to go on strike to save on their salaries?
Get more off the road, government should pay less emphasis on safety, productivity and emissions if it isn't willing to quit back tracking on these issues that they have deemed of utmost importance.
Heaven forbid they have to put their clothes on and go to the office It's time to get back to the real world 🤣
Gov. needs to justify the real-estate they own which is a major asset of the gov be fed, provincial or municipality
The is happening because of Ford/Sutcliffe desire's to subsidize transit and downtown business. So does that mean public service wages used as a subsidy will allow those workers proportional ownership of said business?
If they only want to work three days a week in the office then only pay them for three days a week
The downtown core business support is definitely the key point to this. However, public servants aren’t going to be likely able to have enough of an impact. Also having caught wind of this interest I feel they’ll likely avoid this.
Have a competition...a contest where Accounting Firms analyze and omplement workable situations to run the BUSINEE of government..their profit based on the SAVINGS BY ELIMINATING CORRUPTION AND USELESS EMPLOYEES!!!
You don't even need to argue about productivity or fight with unions....all the conservatives have to say is that pushing them into the office would absolutely stimulate the local economy around the office and any stimulation of the economy is drastically needed right now.. ...also all the more reason to axe the tax as the government would be pushing more tax on the workers commute lol
Ms. Vassy I love the way you report! You demand the truth. Can you get the truth from any politician WHY NURSES AND DOCTORS THAT LOST THEIR JOBS ARE STILL NOT ALLOWED TO WORK IN THE HOSPITALS.
I am I so sick of the protected class of government employees. They are one of the highest paid one of the highest benefits, one of the most paid time off. So many middle managers doing nothing but spending our tax dollars. They are so out of touch to Canadians that actually produce value to our economy. PSAC should be ashamed.
What a sad state of affairs the public service is completely useless
Work in the office 5 days a week. Where it can be accomodated, workers can choose to work from home in exchange for a "reverse-bonus" of 3% for each day worked from home. Once chosen, they must continue with that choice for at least 6 months unless otherwise mutually agreed to. This would result in salary being reduced by 15% for working all 5 days from home.
Productivity didn't decline when they started working from home because it was already in the toilet to begin with.
Of the taxpayers are expected to go to work, then so should the privileged government workers. If you don't show up, lose your job. Boohoo.
So how is the world so different than 2019 when there was no remote work? Nothing but an attitude of entitlement. They don’t even know what productivity is as reported by the auditor general. Make it 5 days and fire those that don’t show up
The metrics they use to measure productivity is an ever changing rule. If you don't sell a product and arguably provide a service, what is it you measure as being productive?
Ban all Unions in the public sector it,
Public service unions should be outlawed. They organize against the citizens and their constituents.
Absolutely. 💯
I don't have a problem with them working from home as long as work gets done. BUT their pay should be cut as they are saving money by not having to commute, wardrobe expenses, probably daycare expenses in some cases, etc. And any kids at home benefit from having one or both parents at home. Makes for a happy employee as well. But don't use climate change as an excuse. Although for the liberal government it could fly. Also threatening a summer of discontent . Does that mean the public is going to suffer? That is wrong. They won't get any sympathy using words like that.
How does one get more work done at home if they have kids at home at the same time? Not possible.
@AellaMaude-oy9qn I suppose with this new generation of parents, you could be right.
What are all these workers having ALL your personal info in their homes????
The point of them going back to work is so we don't have to wait in line for 3hrs at the passport offices!!!
The company I work for went to 5 days work week in office last year. Why the public service workers be different?
Let them work from home, this is not an issue of productivity, this is control. Less parking used, more reasonable public bus/train capacity, and a better work/life balance. Who cares where they work if the productivity is the same
Exactly! It about time unions actually fight for their workers.Workers should't just bow down because everyone else is.
The fact is that 70 percent of federal public service workers went on a two year vacation in 2020 and nobody noticed they were gone. When 70 percent of all federal budgets and/or staffing are eliminated, we can start talking about work from home.
@@sqae8398Working from home isn't a vacation, it's very much doing the required job requirements. If your argument was true, they would have already gone with that, but it's not.
This is yet again an example of the government slowly taking workers rights away from them. Think about this next time you want a change in pay or benefits from your employer and you have a separate party saying you don't deserve it. We should stick together, even if we dont directly see the benefits.
@kyletrusler4565 All useful work provided by the federal government of Canada can be done with 30 percent of their current budgets. I am pro work at home. Once again, 70 percent of federal public servants went on a 2 year vacation in 2020 and nobody noticed they were gone. Just because it wasn't a "literal" vacation doesn't make the sentiment any less true.
@@sqae8398 One cant be pro working from home, then classify working from home as a "vacation". Saying that "nobody noticed they were gone" and that they were on "vacation" because they were working from home is ignoring that many federal programs wouldnt have continued without these workers. Just because you dont notice a job happening, doesnt mean it wasnt done.
Not everyone can take public transportation that might be ok in cities but not everyone lives in the city
lol
Did that guy just link working 3 days a week at the office affects climate change????
I worked at home during the pandemic. It was FAR more productive and the employer got more hours from me as I wasn’t wasting 90 minutes a day commuting. Office space is expensive and a lot less of that is needed with a a hybrid workforce. Granted for some jobs you have to be at the office but for many functions, sitting at a computer at a desk can be done anywhere.
Your commute is not part of the employment by your employer unless stipulated in the contract ….
@jonstone2466 Your commute is NOT part of your paid workday hours. Now tell me you didn't claim anything for office expenses, have company paid for laptop/computer, chair, desk, printer, etc. Lots of multiple expenses adding up. If you job is sitting at a computer as a public service then maybe your service isn't needed.
Trudeaus government expansion needs a Ronald Reagan moment. Canadians have had enough of the cost of this governments mess. At least 50% should be let go. The huge increase of the Federal government has not made any difference to the service Canadians receive.
Karl makes sense.
There's no transit in many places.
We’re hired to work in offices , production 80% lower at home, office communications, maybe liberals / NDP may realize how many citizen working , if subcontracted work should be lay offs ,, show up for work , respect Citizens that pay wages ?
heres the problem with working from home, hypothetically on that government wage, the person working from home could hire a temp for half the pay and be out working another job, they should have to go to the office or we put a large stay at home tax on them
Scenerio you made up has that ever happened ?
Resign Justin…BC 😒
If thy can work from home we can most likely automate their job.
Back to work to help out the downtown coffee shops.
The one question I have never heard is "Why do workers not want to work 5 days a week?"
They work remotely do you read at all?
Pepe le Puke alone can fix this
You should have NEVER taken a 5 day work week away....((Hybrid)) CV19 has BEEN over!!
Flying puts outs more carbon than cars on the road to work
Karl, has no idea
If ever there was a purpose for Ai it is the public sector
hows this helping our taxes ???
Give the all ev cars
No point talking about climate change or carbon usage as long as we keep importing more carbon users every day.
And the traffic nightmares begin.
Marieke Walsh is gorgeous.
Normally I don't like lobbyists or agree. But I have to agree with the french guy. If the productivity is there what's the point. Vassy says you can jump on transit. What stratosphere is she from. Many government workers have to travel at least an hour each way from all the small towns surrounding Ottawa. It's the housing costs and the crime that you have to endure if your family is located in an affordable time zone.or in Ottawa
Of course they were more productive during the pandemic because no one could go anywhere. You always have bad apples in a basket who make it worse for others who work from home.Trudeau wants them back 3 days a week because the Mayor of Ottawa and premiere Ford is crying that business are closing shops up because of no clientel meaning the federal employees are not eating at there stores.
Karl, has no answers to any ting.