I just bought a brand new prebuilt HP Z2 SFF G9 with 14th Gen Intel Core i9 14900K yesterday from MicroCenter and am now hearing all the bad news. Not sure I trust their update, so i guess I'm returning it. Thanks for the video and saving me a headache down the line.
@@alexc2234 hi there,I know its a pain but i think it is the right decission.Rather then bothering yourself with Intel and their shit RMA for a defective product,just turn it back in now and spare yourself the lost sanity and peace of mind.Get something else,maybe at the very least an older gen Intel or go full throttle on AMD.Cheers bud
@@skye7690 It seems at the moment not as many laptop cpu's suffer from this but slowly its like intel reveals that more and more sku's are hit by it...its a shame and an outrage for the consumers if you ask me...
Ye but i think the fault is physical build in some part of cpus . I have 13900k since 8 months and after checking in it many workloads and games like cinebench and ue5 mine cpu is stable. And I have voltage in intel spec range without bios changes. So the problem must build in cpu architecture that some of them can drown to much voltage
Unless you're one of the lucky SOBs who got a golden sample that withstood the abuse without degradation. I may be one of them. Once the PL1/PL2 and current limits were sorted out, my 14900K has been perfectly behaved. I never got BSOD crashes. At worst I got CTDs in games.
@@daviddesrosiers1946 David, I have a 13600k, what did you set your to? I used the "intel default" which is 181/181 PL1/2 and 200a. But i'm using 125/181 just in case. I think its 253/253 for yours.
@@nivea878 seems like a manufacturing issue or at the very least a QA problem...Or it might just come with the times where we get less for more and in the process Intel might have just cut too much off the quality...
We are obviously reaching the limits of these technologies. Intel messed up, amd and gpus are being delayed. The power draw is too much. Intel used to be limited to 85 watts. This is crazy.
you said you will have to do a BIOS update? i have heard that updating BIOS can be risky as it can mess up your PC. will the update come out as a windows update that can be done when restarting PC?
Well this update is just meant to prevent healthy unaffected cpus from failing in the future.If you already have this issues then this will not fix your CPU and you should contact Intel for an RMA
You're not lucky and you will experience it soon enough, I undervolted from day 1 , so it really doesn't matter because its a physical flaw , the metals are being destroyed slowly.
it doesn't matter. your CPU has been cooking with 1.6v+ all of this time, it WILL break some day. RMA now, refund now if you can. Don't sit and wait. The movie theater is on fire, escape now.
Well you might just have one of the cpu version thats not impacted by this.All intel told for sure is that initially Intel said that the laptop version are not impacted by the same issue,then they said that only a few are affected but have yet to offer a full detailed list.Im quite sure this is still and ongoing and developing story so not even them might know the full impact.But I do see the common sense in change it if you can right now.We are taking about hardware level faults that are irrevesible once its starting and no ammount of microcode update will fix this.CPU's that arent showing signs yet,could show signs at any time.Remember that you dont really need a long time of usage before you experience issues.Something as simple as a bootup can send more voltage to the cpu and thus damage it in the process.It seems to me like a class action lawsuit in pending for Intel
no one is speaking about specific cpu which caused this errors because i am using intel i9 13900k i have faced a lot of bsod before but not every day i have made temperature control limit on bios now it is not creating any issues , i agree what your telling but controlled over clocking issue but exteneded supported clocking limit will not cause any such issues , this issue is coming from few cpu not on all cpu's, i am using gigabyte Z790 pro ud ac mother board
@@isxndy contact Intel customer support.they should offer you a refund or at least a replacement that you could use after the bios update.This might however mean you experience a lower performance then advertised since the voltage is reduced through the update
@@instantdislikechannel5699 In simple terms,its a manufacturing defect that Intel is scambling to fix.Still no way around the issue as this is a hardware level defect that surely will result in a massive rma or a class action lawsuit for them.Cheers bud Or so it seems to me right now...🧐
@@Tech_Fusion Thanks for clarifying, it's rather concerning to be aware so many CPUs are affected. Is it safe to limit the CPU below 65W then to avoid potential damage until a microcode patch comes out?
I do not understand why Intel still so greedy with the old 74 wafer that has so many failing problem while it's ok to release the 76 at the time. Now they finally release the 76 product as Raptor Lake. Urgh..... whatever decision it damage the investment so much.
the fix is too little too late. It'll stop the cpus from further damage but won't reverse all that has been done. People are going to want their pound of flesh for this.
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I just bought a brand new prebuilt HP Z2 SFF G9 with 14th Gen Intel Core i9 14900K yesterday from MicroCenter and am now hearing all the bad news. Not sure I trust their update, so i guess I'm returning it. Thanks for the video and saving me a headache down the line.
@@alexc2234 hi there,I know its a pain but i think it is the right decission.Rather then bothering yourself with Intel and their shit RMA for a defective product,just turn it back in now and spare yourself the lost sanity and peace of mind.Get something else,maybe at the very least an older gen Intel or go full throttle on AMD.Cheers bud
This fix will not correct existing CPU damage, so your CPU is already damaged due to Intel permitted incorrect voltages.
@@skye7690 It seems at the moment not as many laptop cpu's suffer from this but slowly its like intel reveals that more and more sku's are hit by it...its a shame and an outrage for the consumers if you ask me...
Ye but i think the fault is physical build in some part of cpus . I have 13900k since 8 months and after checking in it many workloads and games like cinebench and ue5 mine cpu is stable. And I have voltage in intel spec range without bios changes. So the problem must build in cpu architecture that some of them can drown to much voltage
@@evan-du3vkWhat are the symptoms of instability exactly? does it freeze/crash your system, needing a reboot?
Unless you're one of the lucky SOBs who got a golden sample that withstood the abuse without degradation. I may be one of them. Once the PL1/PL2 and current limits were sorted out, my 14900K has been perfectly behaved. I never got BSOD crashes. At worst I got CTDs in games.
@@daviddesrosiers1946 David, I have a 13600k, what did you set your to? I used the "intel default" which is 181/181 PL1/2 and 200a. But i'm using 125/181 just in case. I think its 253/253 for yours.
I have a solution. Disable all e-cores & multithreading. Lock frequency on 4 GHz. You`ll get the supreme level of AMD FX-8350. LOL
It feels like a solid boost for AMD's upcoming launch...damn shame intels finest turned into a grandiose dumpster fire
Solution is offset - 0.02800 disable boost and sync all cores to boost on p and e. Ll6 done
Do this effect for laptop processor?
how is this problem, i had Intel 20 years not a single cpu , ram, or mobo died. and suddenly this issues? wtf, how?
@@nivea878 seems like a manufacturing issue or at the very least a QA problem...Or it might just come with the times where we get less for more and in the process Intel might have just cut too much off the quality...
Too rushed architecture...too much power...too much chips passed as higher class...just to be competing with amd...
@marcinkqrpiuk7797 completely agreed, these things are pushing like hell from the factory, burning itself up as it runs.
We are obviously reaching the limits of these technologies. Intel messed up, amd and gpus are being delayed. The power draw is too much. Intel used to be limited to 85 watts. This is crazy.
buy a 14th gen cpu for your build and find out for yourself. I have a laptop with one and I'm not having a good time with it either.
you said you will have to do a BIOS update? i have heard that updating BIOS can be risky as it can mess up your PC. will the update come out as a windows update that can be done when restarting PC?
Is this BIOS update necessary to fix the processor crash in the software and game?
Well this update is just meant to prevent healthy unaffected cpus from failing in the future.If you already have this issues then this will not fix your CPU and you should contact Intel for an RMA
14901KE is not available to consumers, so we can’t have it.
@@skye7690 not yet indeed...
i have 14900k but haven't experienced these type of issues, is it because i am not fully utilizing the features? or am i just lucky?
also i am not overclocking cuz i dont understand it
@@below-skiv2197u tried new ue5 games like free first descendant?
You're not lucky and you will experience it soon enough, I undervolted from day 1 , so it really doesn't matter because its a physical flaw , the metals are being destroyed slowly.
it doesn't matter. your CPU has been cooking with 1.6v+ all of this time, it WILL break some day. RMA now, refund now if you can. Don't sit and wait. The movie theater is on fire, escape now.
Well you might just have one of the cpu version thats not impacted by this.All intel told for sure is that initially Intel said that the laptop version are not impacted by the same issue,then they said that only a few are affected but have yet to offer a full detailed list.Im quite sure this is still and ongoing and developing story so not even them might know the full impact.But I do see the common sense in change it if you can right now.We are taking about hardware level faults that are irrevesible once its starting and no ammount of microcode update will fix this.CPU's that arent showing signs yet,could show signs at any time.Remember that you dont really need a long time of usage before you experience issues.Something as simple as a bootup can send more voltage to the cpu and thus damage it in the process.It seems to me like a class action lawsuit in pending for Intel
no one is speaking about specific cpu which caused this errors because i am using intel i9 13900k i have faced a lot of bsod before but not every day i have made temperature control limit on bios now it is not creating any issues , i agree what your telling but controlled over clocking issue but exteneded supported clocking limit will not cause any such issues , this issue is coming from few cpu not on all cpu's, i am using gigabyte Z790 pro ud ac mother board
so if the chip is already broken what are we supposed to do?
@@isxndy contact Intel customer support.they should offer you a refund or at least a replacement that you could use after the bios update.This might however mean you experience a lower performance then advertised since the voltage is reduced through the update
what is this channel?
Some "Mr Newstime" from Germany?
Give the information about the oxidation-problem if you touch already the issue...
@@instantdislikechannel5699 In simple terms,its a manufacturing defect that Intel is scambling to fix.Still no way around the issue as this is a hardware level defect that surely will result in a massive rma or a class action lawsuit for them.Cheers bud
Or so it seems to me right now...🧐
Are laptops affected?
@@teamredstudio7012 yes any 65w tdp or higher are affected by this
@@Tech_Fusion Thanks for clarifying, it's rather concerning to be aware so many CPUs are affected. Is it safe to limit the CPU below 65W then to avoid potential damage until a microcode patch comes out?
After applying the BIOS update on the Asus Z790 Hero motherboard, the performance of the 13900K processor dropped by 11% in multithreading.
@@nonpolitical6646 no suprise there,they are limiting the voltage...
Duke Nukem 3D, is it still playable? On RaptorLake?
Try Tetris instead 😂
Sure but run it at its native 640p resolution 😅
@@razzz1988 For Tetris I have Ryzen 2700X 😀
I do not understand why Intel still so greedy with the old 74 wafer that has so many failing problem while it's ok to release the 76 at the time. Now they finally release the 76 product as Raptor Lake. Urgh..... whatever decision it damage the investment so much.
the fix is too little too late. It'll stop the cpus from further damage but won't reverse all that has been done. People are going to want their pound of flesh for this.
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Disable everything and set it to 900 MHz it'll last forever and give you the performance of 8 iBooks.
New hardware who cares, there are no good new games to play.
No problems with my Intel CPU,
Just wait. If you can still return it, I would. Intel's problem is bad!