They will have a similar set up. Sometimes the geneva wheels are in between the numbers. For resetting to zero the geneva's get lifted out or a slip clutch is used as in the Veeder root counter.
hello im looking for a mechanical counter with the largest number wheels or display possible. would you have any you would recommend? Ive looked into mechanical gas pump computers but im looking for bigger than that if possible. any help would be greatly appreciated
The one that you took apart is out of a Sangamo Weston S200.31 ! :D I know what these look like, as I also own a S200.31, and have partly taken one apart to reset it to zero. Keep the meter videos coming....Love 'em!.
Who does me milage counter stop working? Its ticking it has some thing to do with back charging alternator how do I prevent that anoying acurence? Can diodes help? Im shure me counter is 100% ok but some thing odd is hapening with grounding when I experiment with relays ore bulbs the meter start working again so I dont understand why that thing is stuck in place ?
The pointer type meters are very easy to reset. Just carefully rotate the pointer towards the zero position. Ensure that each pointer is perfectly aligned, to avoid misreading. Most pointer meters have brass or aluminium gears and shafts, and the pointers are usually from metal, sometimes from plastic.
On a older vehicle 1993 chevy, does the speedometer factor into the odometer mile counter. I'm concerned because my speedometer reads slightly high and will skew my mileage which I would like to be accurate for maintance.
In older vehicles the speedometer and odometer are driven through a flexible Bowden cable, which is connected via a gear on the output side of the gearbox. Newer vehicles 1990's onwards may have electronic driver circuits which get pulses from a tacho sensor, (also somewhere in the gearbox) Speedometers are usually set 5 to 10% fast. best is to do a mileage check on the motorway where there are distance markers, Usually every 100 or 200 meters apart or 1/4 mile markers, sorry for my late reply.
Hello, I took apart an auto gauge (Honda) and removed the gears. I placed it back but the 2nd row does not turn anymore when the first row hits 0. what did I miss? thanks for your help.
Erik Claro Check the little geneva gear. You have maybe fitted it in the wrong way around. ( that is the little gear which transfers the movement between number wheels). In some car odometers these geneva wheels are in between the number wheels on small plastic dividers.
I aligned the gear to a bigger gear with an indentation and it nearly worked! almost rotated from 49 to 50 but stopped 1/3 of the way. The gear for the numbers has small gears alternating with bigger toothed gears. FYI.
Ik heb een teller op de kop getikt die omlaag telt op het overhalen van een hendel (of het draaien van een excentriek, denk ik) van 9999 naar 0000 en dan grendelt. Het mechaniek om te ontgrendelen en door te draaien van 0000 naar 9999 ontbreekt. Weet je misschien iets meer van dit type?
Thank you for the video. I want to ask you if you could help me repair my trip odometer on my old Yamaha enduro. It is analog and the speedometer works and the odometer and trip odometer record the miles. The one problem I have is the trip odometer will not reset to zero when I pull the knob out and turn it. I don't quite remember if one click out with the knob just turns the miles one by one and the 2nd click out resets the trip odometer to zero. It has been awhile since it has worked. In any case all I get when I pull the knob all the way out is the miles roll down or up one by one. It is somewhat annoying as the trip meter serves as my fuel gauge- at 50 miles or so I know I need to refill the tank. Thank you so much. Frank
My guess is that it is a Smiths or Jaeger odometer as I remember that they had the knob on a bowden cable which you had to pull out and you could run the numbers forward and I think backward the numbers reset to zero.
Thank you for your replies. I just took a look at it. There is no name on it I could see- either inside or outside. It is from a 78 Yamaha DT400. I have been doing a little research with other makes and if they are similar there may be some springs in there that catch the trip odometer shaft and catch the tumblers in some fashion to allow the tumblers to turn in one direction and then catch in the other for reset. Makes some sense to me now why I can turn the trip knob in either direction and roll the numbers one by one. I thought originally that was a normal feature besides the reset. Here is some recent literature I found that sort of explains what happens when the reset feature does not operate. The shaft is staked into the housing body on mine and I bent the odometer shaft trying to press the shaft out of the opposite end. Do you think I should get some pliers and just pry the staked end from the housing and then slip the other end out of it's hole in the housing? www.ibmwr.org/ktech/trip-odometer.shtml www.installationinstructions.com/FYI/TRIP%20ODOMETER%20REPAIR.pdf
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Trying to design a small, mechanical counter, and I got stuck on how it actually worked inside- this vid helped me a lot. Thanks for the video.
You have helped me understand counters much better. I am making a counter for a personal project I'm working on. Thanks for your help.
I've been searching this video for ages!
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They will have a similar set up. Sometimes the geneva wheels are in between the numbers.
For resetting to zero the geneva's get lifted out or a slip clutch is used as in the Veeder root counter.
hello im looking for a mechanical counter with the largest number wheels or display possible. would you have any you would recommend? Ive looked into mechanical gas pump computers but im looking for bigger than that if possible. any help would be greatly appreciated
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Thanks I took mine apart and got to figure out how to put it back!
You really should start a museum with all the stuff you have.
@cheetawolf That is only a small fraction of the counters i have collected over the years.
The one that you took apart is out of a Sangamo Weston S200.31 ! :D I know what these look like, as I also own a S200.31, and have partly taken one apart to reset it to zero. Keep the meter videos coming....Love 'em!.
Who does me milage counter stop working?
Its ticking it has some thing to do with back charging alternator how do I prevent that anoying acurence?
Can diodes help?
Im shure me counter is 100% ok but some thing odd is hapening with grounding when I experiment with relays ore bulbs the meter start working again so I dont understand why that thing is stuck in place ?
Very interseting video!
Where do you get the old meters?
Do you know how I would go about resetting one of the pointer type kWh meters to zero?
The pointer type meters are very easy to reset. Just carefully rotate the pointer towards the zero position. Ensure that each pointer is perfectly aligned, to avoid misreading. Most pointer meters have brass or aluminium gears and shafts, and the pointers are usually from metal, sometimes from plastic.
On a older vehicle 1993 chevy, does the speedometer factor into the odometer mile counter. I'm concerned because my speedometer reads slightly high and will skew my mileage which I would like to be accurate for maintance.
In older vehicles the speedometer and odometer are driven through a flexible Bowden cable, which is connected via a gear on the output side of the gearbox. Newer vehicles 1990's onwards may have electronic driver circuits which get pulses from a tacho sensor, (also somewhere in the gearbox) Speedometers are usually set 5 to 10% fast. best is to do a mileage check on the motorway where there are distance markers, Usually every 100 or 200 meters apart or 1/4 mile markers, sorry for my late reply.
do you know where one can purchase number wheels and Geneva gears?
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Hello, I took apart an auto gauge (Honda) and removed the gears. I placed it back but the 2nd row does not turn anymore when the first row hits 0. what did I miss? thanks for your help.
Erik Claro Check the little geneva gear. You have maybe fitted it in the wrong way around. ( that is the little gear which transfers the movement between number wheels). In some car odometers these geneva wheels are in between the number wheels on small plastic dividers.
Great. I'll take it apart tomorrow and give you an update, hopefully it works.
Erik Claro Cool. I appreciate that.
I aligned the gear to a bigger gear with an indentation and it nearly worked! almost rotated from 49 to 50 but stopped 1/3 of the way. The gear for the numbers has small gears alternating with bigger toothed gears. FYI.
Hi, what number comes 9999 in the old gas meter?www.thegreenage.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Gas-Meter-2-780x350.jpg
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I have taken these apart before, they are neat little things:)
Ik heb een teller op de kop getikt die omlaag telt op het overhalen van een hendel (of het draaien van een excentriek, denk ik) van 9999 naar 0000 en dan grendelt. Het mechaniek om te ontgrendelen en door te draaien van 0000 naar 9999 ontbreekt. Weet je misschien iets meer van dit type?
Thank you for the video. I want to ask you if you could help me repair my trip odometer on my old Yamaha enduro. It is analog and the speedometer works and the odometer and trip odometer record the miles. The one problem I have is the trip odometer will not reset to zero when I pull the knob out and turn it. I don't quite remember if one click out with the knob just turns the miles one by one and the 2nd click out resets the trip odometer to zero. It has been awhile since it has worked. In any case all I get when I pull the knob all the way out is the miles roll down or up one by one. It is somewhat annoying as the trip meter serves as my fuel gauge- at 50 miles or so I know I need to refill the tank. Thank you so much. Frank
What make odometer is it ?
My guess is that it is a Smiths or Jaeger odometer as I remember that they had the knob on a bowden cable which you had to pull out and you could run the numbers forward and I think backward the numbers reset to zero.
Thank you for your replies. I just took a look at it. There is no name on it I could see- either inside or outside. It is from a 78 Yamaha DT400. I have been doing a little research with other makes and if they are similar there may be some springs in there that catch the trip odometer shaft and catch the tumblers in some fashion to allow the tumblers to turn in one direction and then catch in the other for reset. Makes some sense to me now why I can turn the trip knob in either direction and roll the numbers one by one. I thought originally that was a normal feature besides the reset. Here is some recent literature I found that sort of explains what happens when the reset feature does not operate. The shaft is staked into the housing body on mine and I bent the odometer shaft trying to press the shaft out of the opposite end. Do you think I should get some pliers and just pry the staked end from the housing and then slip the other end out of it's hole in the housing?
www.ibmwr.org/ktech/trip-odometer.shtml
www.installationinstructions.com/FYI/TRIP%20ODOMETER%20REPAIR.pdf
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or, you can use a free mobile app. Here it is a new one called "Swipe Counter", available for Android or iOS.
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@ELTIGREROCKS10NEW I have been collecting meter for over 40 years, and used to work in the metering section of a local power board.
very interesting
0:54 this counter is starting to scare me
thanx buddy for this video.....
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