I bought one of these a few years ago, I LOVE it! Works fine, shoots well, very well made and very light. Problems? People bitch about the bolt, O-K, how about this? Don't PLAY with it! If you're not mechanically inclined, leave it to a gunsmith.
@@borkwoof696 Well, i liked the Skoda Superb my father had until recently... Anyway, if you want a durable car, take a Honda or Toyota. Mine is 20 years old and still works flawlessly(didnt even need a repair the last time..) To the guns: Steyr is a good company for sure(TMP9, AUG, M...), but sometimes they tend to think unconventionally(and complicated). Just loock at the ACR. Sometimes they fuck up. They are, so to say, a mixture of German and Italian engineering. Over- and Underengineering. Basically, this is typical for Austrian Engineering in general. Nothing extremely ingenius, yet completely reliably working, innovative, precisely machined and fitted to the needs, for the most part. Basically, us Austrians are Germans with heavy Mediterranean influence(culturally). I think i can see a connection there with the over and underengineering.
try wrapping some sandpaper under the front sight protector, the part that acts as a stock band, may help with accuracy by snugging up things, and this way you have not modified it permanently. Also adding a pad near the front of the forestock to put a few pounds of pressure on the barrel once assembled helps, you guessed it sandpaper (it grips well). Basically doing the same thing as on a #4 Lee Enfield.
Seems like C&Rsenal's "The Swiss didn't like these carbines maybe they didn't know how to make 'em right" hit right home :) Could You fix the sights? Looked for them since i already load for my K31, only found them in the brd without brd proof well with the numbers produced they really are a collector's item so for a shooter i have a M 95 on the way and they knew how to attach a front sight... Did the Swis really do that? And not notice it? Wow...
The front sight assembly on mine made by Waffenfabrik Bern is rock solid and does not move at all but I am not going to take it off to investigate why that's the case...
It took me about 5 minutes before I realized the sweet context of that Swiss army knife. Then I IRL facepalmed. And then, finally, I enjoyed the rest of the video!
One could of course make a new screw retainer for the front sight assembly and ream the slot tapered. of course what this does to the value is another matter
Can GP11 be fired from this handsome little carbine? I'm sure the sights would need to be recalibrated, but if so it'd make ammo acquisition here in the US a bit easier. As always, fantastic video. I never miss rangetime with Bloke and The Chap...kinda like Butch and Sundance, only better.
Sorry for the lag time, but thanks very much for your commentary. That's one very handsome little carbine. I would think that the design flaw should be fairly easy to fix without modifying the weapon, but even if firing it were not recommended, it's a fascinating bridge piece between the 2 most prolific straight pull milsurp designs ever fielded. Granted, there are a couple of others (Ross and Lee Navy) that I'm aware of, but when you think military straight pull action, Schmidt Rubin and Mannlicher (sounds like a law firm) immediately come to mind. Looking forward to your next installment.
I had another look at the 1889 video...more inclined to agree with you now. It's certainly more intricate than the other gun, but seems a neater way doing it.
@@thebotrchap I'd wager most people derive their experience from all the Bulgarian M95 refurbs, whose actions are notorious for being stiff and not well fitted (not fitted at all, I suspect)
Hi. I'm sub to your channel for a long time and I have a love relationship with swiss guns. So I hope you can help me on this question. My GP 11 ammo is almost over and I can't find it in my country, but my gunsmith says that there's a 2 types of ammo I can use, the wolf gold and PPU! In your opinion should I use this ammo? Because my k31 is in fantastic condition and is a gun i want to pass to my son when he turns 18 years old. My k31 have all the match serial numbers correct, have the soldier tag in the stock...etc. She's awesome many people already offer me a good money if I want to sell it. But I love my guns and I don't sell any gun. So I hope you can tell me some alternatives to the GP 11 ammo or where I can buy GP11 AMMO in Europe. Thank you very much for the attention. 👍
I have never seen Wolf Gold in person so don't have an opinion on it. PPU is OK, as is TopShot (made by S&B for Frankonia). Neither are as good as GP11 though. Since "Europe" isn't a country, and you can't just buy ammo like that over borders, I can't help you with your last question, since you need to buy it in *your* country.
I like the way you've managed to integrate the fact that the original GP90 was indeed a smokeless cartridge into this video, bloke. Nicely done.
Great series so far. I always like learning about an entire family of firearms throughout it's design iterations. Keep up the good work my friend.
I bought one of these a few years ago, I LOVE it! Works fine, shoots well, very well made and very light. Problems? People bitch about the bolt, O-K, how about this? Don't PLAY with it! If you're not mechanically inclined, leave it to a gunsmith.
Swiss folding knife, nice touch! In Canada we can't get a beaver to stay on a table. 7750 made, not many for collectors.
9:14 Everyone who's ever had the misfortune of removing an M95 bolt just shuddered.
The addition of the Fickle Fondue Fork of Fate is awesome!
Amazing, both over engineering & buggered engineering on the same rifle. Makes me wonder if the designer went to work for BMW in later years.
vilhelms the great SUPERB
@@borkwoof696 Well, i liked the Skoda Superb my father had until recently...
Anyway, if you want a durable car, take a Honda or Toyota. Mine is 20 years old and still works flawlessly(didnt even need a repair the last time..)
To the guns:
Steyr is a good company for sure(TMP9, AUG, M...), but sometimes they tend to think unconventionally(and complicated). Just loock at the ACR.
Sometimes they fuck up.
They are, so to say, a mixture of German and Italian engineering. Over- and Underengineering. Basically, this is typical for Austrian Engineering in general.
Nothing extremely ingenius, yet completely reliably working, innovative, precisely machined and fitted to the needs, for the most part.
Basically, us Austrians are Germans with heavy Mediterranean influence(culturally). I think i can see a connection there with the over and underengineering.
A truly dab hand with a rifle, that Chap.
try wrapping some sandpaper under the front sight protector, the part that acts as a stock band, may help with accuracy by snugging up things, and this way you have not modified it permanently. Also adding a pad near the front of the forestock to put a few pounds of pressure on the barrel once assembled helps, you guessed it sandpaper (it grips well). Basically doing the same thing as on a #4 Lee Enfield.
Seems like C&Rsenal's "The Swiss didn't like these carbines maybe they didn't know how to make 'em right" hit right home :) Could You fix the sights? Looked for them since i already load for my K31, only found them in the brd without brd proof well with the numbers produced they really are a collector's item so for a shooter i have a M 95 on the way and they knew how to attach a front sight... Did the Swis really do that? And not notice it? Wow...
dude, interpunctuation!
Great vid. Thanks for the info
The front sight assembly on mine made by Waffenfabrik Bern is rock solid and does not move at all but I am not going to take it off to investigate why that's the case...
It took me about 5 minutes before I realized the sweet context of that Swiss army knife. Then I IRL facepalmed. And then, finally, I enjoyed the rest of the video!
I think the plastic pokey stick is only patented here in the US. LOL!!!!!
-Jen
That may be, but I don't know if you can get any more appropriately Swiss than substituting a fondue fork.
getting the bolt head back is a lot of fun, eh?
Great Video and that's a rifle off of my list to acquire :-)
One could of course make a new screw retainer for the front sight assembly and ream the slot tapered. of course what this does to the value is another matter
excellent, thanks bloke
Can GP11 be fired from this handsome little carbine? I'm sure the sights would need to be recalibrated, but if so it'd make ammo acquisition here in the US a bit easier. As always, fantastic video. I never miss rangetime with Bloke and The Chap...kinda like Butch and Sundance, only better.
Sorry for the lag time, but thanks very much for your commentary. That's one very handsome little carbine. I would think that the design flaw should be fairly easy to fix without modifying the weapon, but even if firing it were not recommended, it's a fascinating bridge piece between the 2 most prolific straight pull milsurp designs ever fielded. Granted, there are a couple of others (Ross and Lee Navy) that I'm aware of, but when you think military straight pull action, Schmidt Rubin and Mannlicher (sounds like a law firm) immediately come to mind. Looking forward to your next installment.
Trey Westcot it legitmently does sounds like a law firm
@Maverick Paladin from what i understand, you can not shoot gp11 in these rifles
@@justacentrist4147 great excuse to go back and rewatch this video.
Fondue fork > patented plastic pokey hand...
... but only because the fondue fork is pointier and not translucent ;)
I do like that bolt, complicated but clever.
I don't really see what is complicated about it nor why people have trouble with it
I had another look at the 1889 video...more inclined to agree with you now. It's certainly more intricate than the other gun, but seems a neater way doing it.
The Chap dear sir are you a lefty?
@@thebotrchap I'd wager most people derive their experience from all the Bulgarian M95 refurbs, whose actions are notorious for being stiff and not well fitted (not fitted at all, I suspect)
I wish these weren't so rare, else I'd think the fix you suggested would probably be a common thing for gun plumbers to do to those rifles
I second that motion.
Now if he Only knew some Chap with a lathe?? 🤔
I would love this in 7.5 Swiss, wish this was adopted as the official carbine
Nice Bulova Accutron watch you got there Chap.
Thank you! It's a nice quirk on the development of electronic/digital watches.
What do these go for nowadays in the US?
I think I want one of these.
Yes but is it still smokeless from the front.
Know I'm a little late first time seeing it but why does that rifle remind this Canadian of the Mk1 Ross ?
Because Sir Charles Ross was 'inspired' by the Mannlicher M1895 when designing his own action.
I always wondered what the technical term for that was! "Pully-trigger jobbie." Now I know! ;)
Hi. I'm sub to your channel for a long time and I have a love relationship with swiss guns. So I hope you can help me on this question. My GP 11 ammo is almost over and I can't find it in my country, but my gunsmith says that there's a 2 types of ammo I can use, the wolf gold and PPU! In your opinion should I use this ammo? Because my k31 is in fantastic condition and is a gun i want to pass to my son when he turns 18 years old. My k31 have all the match serial numbers correct, have the soldier tag in the stock...etc. She's awesome many people already offer me a good money if I want to sell it. But I love my guns and I don't sell any gun. So I hope you can tell me some alternatives to the GP 11 ammo or where I can buy GP11 AMMO in Europe. Thank you very much for the attention. 👍
I have never seen Wolf Gold in person so don't have an opinion on it. PPU is OK, as is TopShot (made by S&B for Frankonia). Neither are as good as GP11 though. Since "Europe" isn't a country, and you can't just buy ammo like that over borders, I can't help you with your last question, since you need to buy it in *your* country.
Yay the Mannlicher
"loose as a loose thing"
Better than the Enfield! ;-)
Can you buy commercial GP90
No. Only small quantities of collector ammunition. It hasn't been loaded since 1912.
You know you don't realize Just How Much the Bloke is going bald until you find yourself watching a video from as little as two years ago. 🧔👴
A German 2 pfennig coin fits better than a dime.
Thank you for that bit of information as mine is just a little too tight for a dime. 🙂👍
It is so pretty........
nice weapon, realy want someone...
I got one.
And the Swiss militia were wondering why all the English speaking armies were laughing at them for having a 'Mannlichers'...
How much is C&Rsenal charging for the use of their design?
I know those feels, ive got a styer built 95/30. Absolute pig.
How’s operating the bolt?
It is loose as a loose thing. Lol
Way overpriced because it's cute.
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