We can't rely on this DANGEROUS system on our boat
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- Gas, boats, gas on boats- a combination which could have turned pretty dangerous had we not fixed it. Although we had put it off for a little while- enough was enough and it was time to tear it apart and replace it all.
Also- we got a tender! At last! (definitely NOT after trialling three)
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Episode 15 I Chapter 1: Beginning Boat Life [UK]
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About Our Boat
- Name pronunciation (Tay-Lee), its Welsh, feel free to call her Too-Loo/Te-a-lu/Teaugukug/Tulu
- 1987 Colvic Victor Ketch
- 40ft/12m
- Two Cabins
- Encapsulated Keel and Skeg-Hung Rudder
- 13 Tonnes
About Us
We are Becka and Zach, a couple who, in 2020, dreamt of sailing off into the big blue. Trouble is- we were in a pandemic, had a university degree to finish, on a student budget, only had ever sailed dingies, oh and didn’t have a boat. The dream seemed not only unrealistic but pretty insane.
However, we worked hard, finished our degrees, worked as many hours as physically possible, saved with all our might, got experience and in March 2022 bought our very own sailboat, Teulu. Having little sailing experience and being a young couple, we have encountered a tonne of hurdles and made plenty of mistakes! but for every downfall, there has always been a reason to dust ourselves off and carry on.
We hope you can join us as we sail around the world and keep #bloodydoingit
#sailing #boatlife
Just to answer a few common questions we are seeing pop up!
1. We have a gas inspection booked by a engineer next week so they will check it all over and provide us with a certificate for our insurance company
2. We tested it afterwards with soapy water and there were no leaks
3. We have bought a gas leak indicator now!
4. The gas locker is vented to outside the boat and is now fully sealed
Thanks for all the helpful advice! We will stay safe 😊
Did you also pump out your bilges with a manual bilge pump?
If the interior of the boat smelled of gas, this will sink into the bilge, so it's always worth pumping 10 - 15 strokes of air very week to clear any gas from the bilge...
I was lookimg intently for item 4. Item 1 is excellent as well. Well done sir! Put a permanent label near the gas regulator so it is changed in 10 years. Start a ship’s maintenance log and enter that in the log book also. The storage locker should be as tiny as possible, thoroughly sealed, and vented directly to the outside. The locker is a bomb. There is no reason for it to go off.
But but but…. Venting, sealing, and keeping it tiny makes the risk managable. I hope this made the learning curve easier.
Hi, u need yellow gas Teflon tape, and move the bottle out of the way , give u more room to work. 🇦🇺there called hydrofoils Becka. Now buy an lpg leak detector monitor with alarm, put it in cupboard it will alarm if there's a leak. Also get padlock with large hoop and put it on the outboard toggles where u tighten it to transom, make sure u connect both toggles into padlock, stops theft and stops toggles coming loose, keeping motor still attached to transom win win.
What he said!
@@aytacercen944 She actually 😁
Great suggestion, although when i googled it, gas PTFE tape came up which is what we have so i am unsure on the difference! Will be sure to wrap them anyway and have ordered an alarm- thanks!
@@TeuluTribe all good, just gotta look after u we do🌞
Another well done video. Three points.
Please, make sure the bottom of your gas locker is vented outside the boat and the sides of the locker (including the access hatch) are sealed gas tight. It is a "BIG DEAL." That bottled gas is heavier than air (if propane/butane) and if it escapes the hose or bottle it will settle into your bilge if it can find a path.
Good pick for the "budget" boat. While your new dink is not your "dream dingy" it should provide good service for several years. To extend the life of the tubes, some form of UV protection is a good idea. Chaps (if homemade they're not terribly expensive) or just a "wax" with high UV protection are options.
Your 2stroke outboard is likely a better choice for you than a newer/cleaner running 4 stroke. It will help if you clean the carb, flush the fuel lines, and make sure you always use the right fuel/oil mix. Other tricks to help the old engine are; drain and flush (with kerosene) the lower unit and do new lube, flush out the raw water cooling with fresh water after use (you won't manage to do this every time but "often" will help), attach a zinc anode, and buy a new prop (or two - depending on price) and learn how to replace them. A 5 horse 2stroke engine, well tuned, with good fuel, a clean carb, and a properly pitched prop, should just get your "new to you" dink on a plane over flat water with one on board.
Again, well done!
Shipper Bob
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Stamos44 ketch
Thanks Bob! Locker is vented outside the boat and its now sealed gas tight (wasn't in this vid though!). Great suggestion about UV protecting the dingy! The outboard has been regularly serviced which is nice but nothing like pulling it apart and doing it yourself for peace of mind!
Your such a joy to watch. Always positive and looking at the positive in life. My wife and I get to live our dreams watching you two. Sailing would be the life!
So glad James! Thanks for being here!
Love keeping up with your sailing journey, so inspirational!
Glad you are enjoying it! 😊
That blue regulator is for a blue camping gas bottle, the bit you where trying to fix to the pipe leading to your appliances, is the part that screws on to the bottle, the pin in the middle would push down onto the ball to allow gas to enter the regulator, then the spigot is where to attach your appliance
Interesting- thanks Adrian!
I genuinely love following your story.. That inflatable looks amazing.. Perfect for your current needs. Have fun, Stay safe!
So glad you enjoy them- it makes us so happy to hear that. You are right- the dingy is perfect for us right now 😊
Please get your system inspected! Hose clips are explicitly NOT allowed on LPG systems!
We have an inspection booked 😊
I will mention here a product I have used for many years more effectively than yellow tape. Master's Pro Dope, the gas rated version. Putting the fittings together dry is simply not on. Spring for a bottle of bubble fluid when you buy the pro dope. Test and retest. Test every time you connect a new bottle. A detector is not an option.
Will check that out- thanks so much. We tested a lot with soapy water but its a great idea to do the same everytime we instal a new bottle. Thanks for the suggestion Mark 😊
Wow Great job!Youare a smart effective couple making an impact with your persistance and determination. Congratulations!🐳🐠🐬🐚🦀🦑🦐🐟🐙🌺🌴🕊
Thanks so much! 😊
I have more fun sitting with you when you get all Chatty Cathy. You are an absolute pleasure. Thank you
So glad you are enjoying, thanks Thomas! 😊
It’s good that you are having the gas system inspected, it would be a shame to blow your boat and yourselves to bits!
If you want to learn what things the inspection will cover (and maybe fix any minor items before the inspection) google the BSS regulations. These are actually for canal boats, but they have a very easy to understand guide which is generally applicable to all boats.
It covers not just the pipework itself, but also how the gas locker drain needs to be, how the cylinders need to be fastened down etc, etc. All useful knowledge
If it hasnt been started in over a year you will have problems..
Its regular maintainance for outboards to strip clean the carb check the spark plug clean it all .. petrol has changed several times over the years and its generally got worse each time for messing up older engines. Especially gumming up jets and float chambers.
Spencer the guy who has the Foxy lady cat is a qualified gas fitter and ex army..
Liquifaction of any gas in the pipe can lead to a bit of flare up on ignition under some weather temperatures so dont stand over the burners when you light it..long hair and loose clothing...
double it. 😉🧙♂️
If you dont intend using it for a while turn the gas off at the bottle same if you leave the boat.
We always turn the gas off after each use 😊 Yes, will be careful of my hair!! Eek. Thanks Clive!
Hah!! I did that same thing with my camper! The old LPG tank under the camper was cracked, so long story short I a put propane tank in the camper and used the same orange pipe and those rings that you can tighten. It was easy, cheap, fast, secure and a safe enough :D Jood job you two!
It sure works! 😊
You may wish to check the propane system standards required by your boat insurance policy. The GB standards may be different but worm clamp terminated hose connection is not approved here. A service shop should be able to make you up approved propane flex lines with approved fittings. It is also possible to put a 12v solenoid between the bottle and the regulator that allows you to remotely turn off the propane when not in use or in the case of an emergency. At least have a qualified tech inspect your system.
We have a gas engineer inspection booked soon and they will rectify any issues and provide us with a certificate for our insurance. Fitting a solenoid is a great suggestion as at the moment we run outside and turn it off after each use but it would be safer this way- thanks for the suggestion!
When dealing with liquid propane you should rely on a professional installer.
We have a gas engineer coming soon to check it all out 😊
Channels grow due to adventures and personality. So far the personality is shining. I think you will do well.
Thanks!
Congratulations on your new dingy! You two are my break time Buddys.
Each Monday I either spend time with you around 10 or wait till lunch.
Cheers.
Thanks David! Glad you can enjoy them on your Mondays 😊
That regulator is not the right one. It looks like one designed to fit on the top of the bottle. You need the wall mounted type with a hose tail. You also need to use gas safe Teflon tape on the screw threads to seal the joints.
Yes my thoughts too. It looks like one for the blue campingaz butane bottles.
You need the right fitting, the right pressure (30 or 50 mBar) and made for the right gas. A propane version is OK for Butane but a butane is not good for propane. (at least, 15 years ago in the time gas on boats and RVs was part of my job)
We couldn't find a wall mounted one in any of the chandlery's around here! However, we have a gas inspection booked in soon so hopefully can get it sorted then. Thanks for the advice!
@@TeuluTribe try a Calor Gas distributor a firm that does gas plumbing like City Plumbing or the main Calor distributor. However you should also check the supply of 4.5 kg Calor bottles as they are almost impossible to get. I had to swap to camping gaz which is a different regulator
I really enjoy your successes and anguish over the problems. Does that mean I'm hooked? I believe it does. 👍
Awesome job you two, Zach your persistence pays off again!! 😎👌
Thanks Pete- yep! It sure did!
Great video as usual. Does your gas locker drain overboard? In other words if you have a leak at the bottle the gas drains overboard and not into the boat. Because gas is heavier than air you won’t smell it, meaning you have a risk of fire/explosion. It’s usually a insurance requirement too. Tim Beck in Saltash is very good if you want a professional to look at it.
It does drain overboard and its sealed now so its doing its job finally! Its Tim Beck we have been in contact with- thanks for the suggestion! 😊
Another brilliant job, it’s great watching you guys doing so well 👍👍 ⛵️
Thanks Stuart! Just figuring it out 😊
You used the wrong tape. For gas you can used blue tape.
That was a lot of talking about nothing interesting...
GAS LEAK. DIAPHRAGM IN THE PRESSURE VALVE.
As a certified recreational vehicle L.P. Gas instructor let me warn you. You are already in trouble if you smelled gas inside your boat. You are really lucky that you didn't already have an explosion. Please get a certified installer to help you with the gas system. Love your show! Don't want to lose you before you get going.
Im a certified IA so, I aprove this message.
We have a gas inspection by an engineer booked so they will check through everything and give us the go a head 😊 Thanks for being concerned though- we are putting our safety first!
Hello Guys I just wanted to say I love your videos and your adventures, Dorian from Houston Texas. You are amazing, cute girl. Hang in there Zach she will figure it All out with time and be a seasoned sailor
Thanks so much Dorian! 😊
Your vids are so high energy I think I could row across the Atlantic in your dinghy after watching. Are you secretly sponsored by Red Bull or Monster NRG drinks? 😆
Hahaha neither of us drink any energy drinks 🤣
As a sailer myself I have enjoyed watching young people like y'all enjoying the live aboard lifestyle, however when it comes to the propane gas issues....stop doing what you are doing...just walk away, please hire someone....this can be a serious problem if your not trained in this..find help
We did hire a marine gas engineer who checked the entire system over 😊
Hmm...I would be inclined to use thread tape on those new gas fittings. Whilst DIY at sea is a necessity of convenience, with this oldish boat and the risks associated with gas leaks and naked flames, as per your cooker, I would also be inclined to have a licensed gas fitter involved in any upgrade and which would have a positive influence in the event of any theoretical future potential insurance claim.
I would also install a gas alarm system of the type commonly installed in modern motorhomes and which also might have a positive impact on your insurance.
If you do take off into the blue yonder, determine the nature of the gas fittings commonly used in international locations and acquire the various adaptors required to be able to refill your gas bottles.
We have a inspection booked by a gas engineer soon! And have ordered a gas leak alarm 😊 Thanks so much for the advice
@@TeuluTribe Thank you for the reply. I am glad that you haver taken those steps.
Fair winds to you both.
PS In an episode, perhaps 5-10 ago I recommended that you do something about a 'watermaker' as with your smallish cruiser and the distances that you will eventually journey over, fresh water will become as precious as gold, increasing your outgoings by the regular marina berthing to access water at a cost. I didn't get a reply but it was a non-current episode which perhaps you were. not reviewing from time to time--I am not sure how non-current comments are received by the channel--but it really will become a 'must-have' capability.
Cheers
Oh sorry, we try and reply to every comment we get! Just had a search and the only other one i can find is your one about the knife on the stopping boat jobs vid but apologies if we missed it! We would love a watermaker, the wallet at this point in time, wouldn't love it 😅 however its on the list! Thanks so much for the suggestion 😊
I'm not an expert in gas systems, however my tandem language partner (I'm trying to learn German, because I now live in Germany), he loves camping and has gas. Apparently using gas is an absolute nightmare when you move from one country to the next.
There is no common standard, there are 300 different standards around Europe for different types of fittings.
If you are in a country where your gas bottle is not the same standard as the country then you won't be able to get it refilled and you'll need to buy a new bottle.
Enjoy your gas fittings, I'm sure it'll provide plenty of future entertainment as you are traveling around the world and hunting down the right gas fittings.
We have heard the same thing! Happy we have induction that we can mainly rely on now!
probably worth thinking about how you will convert your gas to other standards - I don't know for boats but certainly for RVs the gas fittings between nations are very different - UK fittings only work on UK bottles for example.
We luckily have an induction hob too so once we have a solar set up will try to cook on that but you are totally right- I think we may struggle with gas in other countries!
Sorry but I think you made a mistake with that dingy. It has no holes, good size. You need to make flooring for it, which is really easy to do. As for the engine, it had sat probably for years but still started eventually and ran? After a proper service it would have been reliable cheao and perfect for you. Those little Daihatzu engines go and go and go.
Thats ok 😊 We are really happy with our Suzuki now, the other outboard hadn't sat for too long, and we could have cleaned it but it didn't feel the right one for us so we went for the suzuki!
You're right, "that's boat life"! Things don't always go to plan, but you just need to keep at it.
Gas system: you're right to be cautious. It's high pressure from bottle to the regulator, which reduces the pressure from there to the cooker. It's good to replace those parts, as you've done. The "pig tail" was the high pressure hose between the bottle and the regulator. But now you have the regulator attached to the bottle you can use the orange hose up to the fixed pipe. It's also easier and cheaper to get the orange hose than the pig tails. As previously said, it's essential to make sure the bottom of the locker is sealed gas tight and drained overboard. You should try to seal locker door and ideally have a gas detector. The problem on boats is any leak of gas, which is heavier than air, accumulates in the bilges and does not easily dissipate.
Dinghy: Great new dinghy and outboard, which should serve you well. Good idea to service the outboard, as already said by others, especially keeping the carburettor clean. Old outboards don't like new bio fuel unfortunately.
You'll learn quickly by sharing your experiences and taking account of the advice.
Well done, and enjoy yourselves, safely of course.
Persistance pays off! Thats great advice, thanks! The gas locker is now sealed and already was draining overboard (although it probably wasn't before as the damn locker wasn't sealed!). And have a gas leak detector on order! Will give the outboard a good old service. Thanks so much 😊
Get the gas engineer out to do the job, dont guess. At 3.23 the regulator is fine if attached to the top of the gas bottle, but, you have the gas connected to the outlet from the regulator which should be going to the cooker. If there isn't a fitting for what you want to do then there is usually a good reason. Best not to blunder on with something you don't have the knowledge to do. You need to know when you don't know...and ask for help in chandlers or a professional. Sorry if that sounds harsh but gas isn't something to do trial and error as the error will blow you, and the boat, up. As many have said check the gas bottle is in a proper gas locker vented overboard including taking into account when heeling if using whilst sailing. Stay safe guys. Andy UK
We know we aren't pros at this so have a gas engineer coming out soon 😊 The locker is now sealed and does vent overboard and we now have an gas leak alarm in the post- thanks Andy! 😊
Seems to me that the gas regulator is one that fits to the bottle (as mine does) and the flexi pipe goes onto the fitted fixed pipe where you took of the old regulator but hey there are so many variations, but as you already know there are ways around those problems. another great video folks.
There seems to be a lot of variations, you are right! Thanks so much 😊
Put fins on the outboard and one sit forward and you will get the dinghy on the plane
We will look into this, thanks!
You two are awesome! Much love from the Appalachian mountains land locked for now until the snow starts.
Thanks Ralph! Wow, as the rest of the world goes into summer, that must be quite a feeling!
Does your gas locker have a vent at the bottom which vents over the side of the boat?
Yes it does 😊 and it is also completely sealed now
Drill a hole in the top plastic cover on your out board big enough to fit the nut and the right size socket. Next attach the socket to a cordless drill then start you outboard eeasey life 😎😎😎
Haha love that! Where there is a will, theres a way 🤣
So nice to see you’re having fun with the highs and the lows, this is the life of live aboard cruisers. It’s great to hear that you’re just prepared to adapt to situations, work around problems and get them fixed at your leisure. Things with maritime in the name just increases the price, your gas system looks fine to me. Not that I am an expert, and I really like your dinghy, the motor is a little small but it does the job. 👍😎👍
You have to adapt- after all with boats, there are always curved balls along the way! Dingy is small but works! Thanks Paul 😊
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I don't know how you can talk so naturally to a camera. but you do a good job. thanks for another great episode. That was fun.
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
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Your channel is really starting to grow on me, great job and keep up the good work!!
Glad you are enjoying it 😊
Don't play with gas, hire a professional to do it right!
We have an engineer inspection booked soon 😊
You guys bring a smile to my face every time.
So glad 😊😊
Are you guys in plymouth
Yep 😊
I can't wait to see the sailing trip!
Wont be long!
Boat life is full of ups and downs!
It sure is!
So when you mount the gas detector (if it isn’t too late), consider that flatulence will set the thing off. RV owners have often discovered this when a pet sleeps close to the sensor.
Its in the stern locker- no flatulence there! 😆
@@TeuluTribe yea, didn’t know where it might be. In RVs, a common place is at the foot of the bed in the back. Because the gas is heavier than normal air it sinks. Then many an RV owner discovers rather rudely that their pet passes gas while they are sleeping.
As far as I can tell you don’t have a pet. But such things have been known to change.
@@AbNomal621 that makes sense! Thanks for the heads up!
Ya I had to do this you need the yellow gas Teflon tape or do what I did and get a liquid gas tape cuz they didn't have the yellow tape and u won't have to worry about i again
Did you get this in the UK? We can't seem to find it anywhere- can only find PTFE gas tape!
No I got it in the states but I did have to ask a guy who new how to do it and he did have to walk me directly to the stuff
@@bodiegoff9771 ah cool, thanks!
Well done you to you both to traffic work. Have a good day
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Hopefully this isn’t washed too far down the comments. I thought of a few products you may want/need aboard. When fiddling with anything threaded pipe/gas fittings, some quality Teflon pipe thread sealant(rector seal) as well quality Teflon tape (mill rose blue) or the like. You can get quality thread sealant/tape that works for both LP gas and potable water. If you take that puppy around the world you will certainly use it at some point. I would also recommend you get some PFTE silicone grease (Super Lube PFTE) as you will use that on all things rubber that are water related. I’d also get a can of (fluid film) or Boeshield (T-9) aboard for anti corrosion. While your at it Locktite (C5-A) anti-seize is so very handy on bolts. Most of this stuff is Amazonable.
Is Teflon pipe thread sealant the same as PTFE tape? We have the gas version of that but not too sure if its the same :) We also have the silicone grease you recommended but couldn't find a use for it in this installation! Where would you have used it? Thanks so much for all the suggestions. Will add it to the list now 😊
Whoa,,,Some problems are a real pain in the Arse😜 Gas Bottle Leak, Dingy Engine(usually Carburetor issue)…Fun, Fun, Fun😜 But ya gotta Stay Safe & Enjoy😎
Absolutley!
You guys make me smile!
So glad 😊
Love the zodiac and a Suzuki engine they have a good reputation like Yamaha,well done zac sorting out the gas and I can tell you there is no way I would fit in the locker thank goodness your not 6 ft 4” 16 stone and 55 years old lol 😂 looking forward to next week you lovely humans keep enjoying that fabulous boat 👍😎🤗⛵️
Haha he managed to fit! Glad you are enjoying the vids Paul, your comments always make our day 😊
I know from having a camping gaz stove every country has a different type of bottle / connector and needs a different regulator. So having the regulator attached to the bottle not the wall makes more sense. You'll end up with a collection of screw fittings, regulators and keep spare pipe/clips in stores depending on where you go on your travels. Long term - I think it will be best to go all electric so you can get self suffiecient off grid and not have the satefy issues with gas. There's camper induction hobs now that run 2 rings at lower shared power settings than the ones designed for mains. Saw about them on Saling SV Delos channel as it's what they have. At home I use cast iron cookware (from Aldi) on my induction as it really spreads the heat and rarely go above power 3 for a good rolling boil.
Thanks Simon- yes, i think you are 100% right- we want to go fully electric (or maybe alcohol) in the future but its too expensive at this point, hopefully in due course we will! Will look into the cast iron cookware, thanks 😊
Love the videos. We ripped out all the gas, installed lithium and solar and went electric. Much less... explosive.
Glad you are enjoying them. We would like to go with lithium but its quite expensive at the moment! Maybe in the future 😊
77 yr. old Bruce From Canada.== The hose end to the gas bottle has a little== O ring.== Please get a couple of spares as they can dry out and crack and may NOT hold the presser and fail. == Love your adventure
Will do- thanks Bruce! 😊
@04:03 On threaded fittings, that is not like an option! That is a must!, a requirement! And btw, this doesn't look right at all.
@13:00 This is the normal way to install gas.
The previous "installer" probably screwed up by screwing some odd things lying about together, that is dangerous.
We think the same!
Once again!fun video mate Beks personality shines through roast dinner New dinghy great. go forth and enjoy Fair winds and cheers n beers Marty Australia
Thanks Marty! Glad you enjoyed 😊
You're almost ready to have a BBQ on a deserted island with your yacht anchored in the moonlight offshore and your new dinghy having brought you to land?! Enjoy!!
Ugh isn't that just the dream!! One day 😊
Highly recommend a 12v gas control system where you can mount the push button switch near the range. Makes it supper easy to turn on/off the gas supply directly on the low pressure side of the regulator. You will forget to turn off the gas if it is somewhere that is a pain to get to, requires braving the elements, or use it during a rough passage.
That does sound great, its something we will look to upgrade soon- thanks Joel!
Good to get the gas system working properly…. Make sure you regularly pump the bilges and turn the gas on and off at the bottle so as to burn the gas out of the lines…. But you know all that …. Glad the dinghy situation resolved itself too!! 👏🏻😎
Will do- thanks Andrew! 😊
pro tip if you plan to live on the boat for many many years, start researching and saving for a lithium system, switch to convection cooking and electric outboard, you can power all your adventures using the sun with out the fire risk of petrol/gas - you think its hard to get gas parts in the UK, wait till you are in central america...
We would LOVE a lithium system but unfortunatley at this point in time it is just too expensive for us- in the future though! 😊
Don’t you have a floor to exterior vent for the gas locker plus an alar? If you have been smelling gas it hasn’t been venting so it can potentially explode! 🔥
I believe Propane is heavier than air so make sure your vent is at the lowest point in the locker?
If it was me I would replace the whole pipe line with a new continuous pipe from the cooker to the bottle regulator so you know there is no joints that can potentially leak in the future. Extending the pipe so you can fit the regulator more easily was a great idea👍
The locker is vented outside the boat 😊 and the locker is now sealed. The long copper pipe the whole way down the boat is continous and is in great condition. Zach checked this with soapy water just after we got the boat- thanks for the advice 😊
I can see many comments on your gas system already but just to say, l’m glad you are getting an inspection as there were a few things not quite right with your installation. Gas is not to be treated lightly as many do, sadly. Enjoying your videos and will also visit some of the places in South Wales that you mentioned in an earlier video.
Hi Simon, thanks for the concern, its all been inspected now and the only changes were a new wire hose at the back of the cooker (it was coming up to the end of its life so we just went for it and changed it out) and a gas bubble leak detector 😊 Everything else was ok which was reassuring. Glad you are liking the vids!
Take care with gas on boats, it definitely shouldn't smell of gas but people have blown themselves up before now due to it collecting in the bilge. It can actually be a pain in the neck trying to get gas bottles filled/change the regulator over as you visit other countries.
That was our concern before- we are having it all checked by a professional and now have a gas leak alarm just in case! Thanks Tom 😊
Your doing it and with a smile
It's all coming together. Congrats on your new mode of transportation. Cheers
It is! Thanks Stephan 😊
You really need to find your self's a good local old seadog mentor that will take you guys under his wing before you get yourself in real trouble. ignorance maybe bliss but it can also be deadly. Have fun guys just be careful.
We have three!🤣 They have been so much help to us! Will be careful- thanks 😊
ok its lightly soapy water in a spray bottle to look for leaks works best. I'm not sure hose and hose clamps are a good long term solution for that gas problem
We did check for leaks with soapy water in the vid and are going to get it checked by a professional soon 😊
Good job on the dinghy guys. Light and easy and should get you everywhere you need to go for now. Maybe consider getting some of those fold down wheels so you don't drag the bottom on the beach.
We have some wheels- just need to dig them out the stern locker! 🤣
So, what are you gonna name y'all's dingy?
Tiny Teulu!!
such fun guys
you levelled up! congratulation!
Thanks Frank 😊
Fix gas installation should always be done with pipes instead of hoses as hoses can shave and hose clamps can fail. Pipe connections are far more durable and reliable. Please change that hose for a pipe.
Not entirely correct. A correct install uses neoprene lpg certified hose. Though I note that they are missing both the required gauge and solenoid from their setup.
@@pierremitham2964 Thanks. I just had read an article some time ago and probably didn't remember that. Or the regulations in Germany are different. Gas installations must be checked regularly here for the guarantee of insurance for example. At least the installations on board of super yachts use pipes instead of hoses. I'm naval architect and in a recent project we had to plan indoor fireplace, an exterior one. Often the chef requires a gas oven in the galley or fixed installed grills outside. Though the piping is routed by the machinery engineers.
We are getting a guage and solenoid next 😊
@@TeuluTribe the gauge is normally part of the regulator.
@@Hotzenplotz1 On super yachts I'd agree with you. They are installed and maintained by profesionals. but on smaller yachts DIY with LPG is a dangerous thing, Always better to buy prebuilt certified hose that already has the proper flair connections. The other advantage of the hose is that its typically easily replaceable (if run in its own conduit) and elimiates an extra joint at the appliance where you have to transition from copper to flexible hose anyway.
You continue to surprise and amaze!
It really would be a shame 🤣 thats a great idea, thanks so much for the suggestion!
Excited for you too 🥰🥰🥰
Thanks Helen! 😊😊
Nice new dinghy 👍👍
Thanks! 😊
Use some Gas tape anyway.
Have done now- thanks!
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Woo!
The gas ... not something to just work it out, have a go with. Seriously ... you've very likely invalidated your insurance, too. Please, get an audit, check, from a marine gas engineer. I did, even though I'm a very experienced engineer, in many technologies, even trained, certificated, to work on boilers, gas, years ago. He made some really wise recommendations, modifications, money very well spent. The gas .. is probably the biggest risk, to you and your boat.
Whilst I love your 'have a go' spirit, have to say it's potentially you're big downfall sometimes.
Discretion is so so important, knowing limitations, consequences ... at sea.
Get it checked,. A domestic regulator isn't for a yacht, because when boat heels, rolls, liquid fuel can come down the line, and cause huge flare of flames at burner. Plus, components deteriorate quickly in sea air. It's not approved for such applications. That flexi hose too, clips are not reliable.
Finally ... didn't see you test for leaks, afterwards ... sniffer device, or soap/ bubble solution.
Consider getting a Bubble Leak Tester device, installed.
You're willing to dash out buy EPIRB, etc ... but priority is really these basics, and, reflect on your competence in such matters.
I do, however, love your enthusiasm, ambition, wholehearted spirit ... much as myself, I've been living afloat, exploring, 5 years now, on anchor always, except winter in Finistère, France. Prudence is essential, to dodge the various threats. Bon courage brave ones!
We have an inspection booked by a gas engineer soon 😊 We will never change or replace any safety system or equipment without getting it checked by a professional- its not worth the risk. We did do a soap water solution test after and have ordered a gas leak alarm. 😊 thanks for the advice!
@@TeuluTribe m'y Colvic Countess 37 had similar gas locker arrangement, plywood construction, that was accessed from inside the lazarette/ workshop. Engineer sympathised with difficulties of bringing older designs up to compliance standards, but insisted that it needed to be rendered completely gas tight, towards interior of boat. Worst job ever, was to prep all rider that locker, strip paint, coarse sand, to key, then, completely line with grp, resin, glass, and finally, flowcoat. Then, source a positive sealing access hatch, and improve the gas drain, overboard, plus a vent to exterior. Only after he'd tested integrity, plus, installed a Bubble-test unit, would he sign it off. Did consider cylinde on deck, stern, bracket, restraint, on pushpit, quarter rail ... but he wasn't happy with connecting hose, through deck gland ... plus longer pipe run, unseen, potential for issues later. Some use the massive anchor well, subdivided, has drain already. Again, long run, and it's a busy area, where shit can happen.
Btw ... I've just obtained a Flogas cylinder, all plastic, grp pressure vessel, a fraction of weight, nothing to corrode, and ... translucent, can eyeball the contents. Found them at B&M, B&Q ... have seen similar in Brittany, different branding, unsure if can exchange. Same 27mm regulator connection as Calor, I think. This concept surely the best, for boats.
Though my comments earlier were very critical ... but it's actually a criminal offence, to interfere with gas installations, appliances, unless authorised, registered gas trained ... for very good reasons ... there's much more to it than we realise.
Good luck with your engineer visit.
@@Neptuneboy1959 wow. Sounds quite the job! The Flogas bottles sound really interesting- will keep an eye out for them.
We did research prior to testing it and the RYA said this on their website, ‘There is no requirement for private boat owners to maintain and repair their LPG system on a regular basis. If the vessel is operated on inland waterways and requires a Boat Safety Scheme (BSS) certificate it must additionally comply with the BSS requirements. This does not require that a Gas Safe Register engineer carries out the work as the BSS does not stipulate how this compliance is achieved.’ It seems as long as your vessel isn’t used for any commercial activity, you are welcome to fix the system but it is still recommended to get a professional to check 😊 but then again, we may have interpreted that wrong!
Thanks for the suggestions!
you both are lovely people but don’t you think your a little rude making a Amazon wish list and asking your viewers “for help” so to speak! And your items are expensive. If you can’t afford don’t do it . Or wait until you can . Delays should be seen more as blessings. Patience. Times are tough for most , and your already living a life were people can only dream about because it will never ever be a reality for them and your asking to fulfill your wish list on Amazon. I find that very disturbing
We weren’t going to but quite a few people actually requested we set up one up as they know how hard it is to start sailing, whatever age and financial position you are in. We never, ever ask in our vids for anyone to buy anything, and those people who have bought things (and who are financially able to), know how incredibly grateful we are for it. Also, many people simply enjoy watching our free vids and want to give us a little something back ☺️
The sad part is that you did not even consider the alternative electric outboard, when everybody is moving away from burning fossil fuels!
Oh we would love an electric outboard! We did consider it but its just too expensive at the moment unfortunatley and we don't have a good enough solar/battery setup but in the future it will definitely be an option 😊