“The last church I attended, the Spirit moved me to stand up while the pastor was preaching and share the vision he gave me about the drummer in the worship team.” True story.
You need to refer them to the FLDS as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hasn't practiced polygymy since 1890. Break off sects do, tho'. 😊 And the occasional ex communicated member. LoL
Oof, suffered through #3 real bad last year. Got a dude trying to be #1 now. First week, 'how long before I can be on the worship team?' next week: "Some 3,000 member churches already let me on worship team by this point." Yeah, at this point I don't think you'll ever be on worship team...
Why does the orchestra have to play the same song the vocalists are singing if the spirit filled violinist/keyboardist feels led to play something else?
Awesome! Here some fun ones... How about the prophecy wonk who wants to preach asap or the charismatic who has a vision for you and your church? I'm only mentioning the PG ones I've encountered!
What is the worst New visitor red flag that you experienced as a pastor? This was very funny. I liked the one that said "don't contact my last church, they are all liars".
I wouldnt call that a red flag immediately. For a group of people who arent supposed to gossip or lie, we sure do a good job of both! because telling the truth, in love, is a very dangerous thing. I've learned to keep my BIG mouth shut (more or less).
@@inconnu4961I had a wonderful pastor that left his last church because as an elder he went to his pastor about a conflict of interest he saw happening with him. He got nowhere so he went with another elder and approached the other elders and they told him he was being contentious. Eventually they made life so miserable for him he and the other elder resigned their membership. This church contacted every church in our town to tell them not to fellowship with him because he was factious(he was even the Sunday school teacher). He went from church to church and they actually told him to leave. He basically started a church from nothing. I found them thru the T4G website and eventually we had several solid members but after two years he dissolved the church because the last church was still making his life miserable and said if he closed it they would leave him alone. I followed him and his family to one baptist church and after that pastor approached him and asked him to leave, I left too. What Christian does that? It was like a bad movie. We found another church that he was friends with the pastor and we worshiped happily for years until he moved away. Sometimes you have to stand up for what’s right🙏
I don't think it's an issue to ask you who's available to pursue.. I as a single asked around and people made my single status the butt end of their joke and the married men refused to help or give suggestions.. What made it harder for me was there were no single women there.. I finally met someone via a song evangelist family and we're getting married next week.
@@slackjaw4270 by the way it took a while but I finally did find a woman who never was pregnant or married.. I was 44 and she was 37 when we got married.
@@MrAndyhdz If you don’t think sodomy is worse than natural attraction then there isn’t much I can do to help you. You could try reading Romans 1 but I’m guessing there is a reason you think that way.
@@MrAndyhdz Whatever my sins may be they don’t include sodomy, or sympathy for its practitioners. The spirit of this age has apparently gotten you in its grasp. For you to equate normal sexual attraction with same sex attraction is pretty telling.
@@gew1898 Exactly! Oh the horror of a young man looking for a Godly woman to marry in church! /sarc Where else is a man supposed to look for a wife? Bars? It's not a sin to find women attractive.
When i was about 12 or 13 i was in a boys youth group called p.f.c. pioneers for christ we would have our bible studies with the pastor of the church our drummer had a role too i dont remember but just to help i guess and a man who was like my second dad.. anyway long in the short a new family came to our church n he started wantin to take all the teenage girls home instead of riding the church bus he was creepin on them girls always touchin their shoulers n jokin with them the wife was just all goin along with it..the pastor said they need to ride the church bus thats why we have it so that stopped..then it came time for us boys to go on our camping trip and this guy asked the preacher if he could bring his two pet rattlesnakes!..RATTLESNAKES!!.. the preacher asked him that day to politely leave and find another church and ask the lord to help him... just to add the guy was an imcredible artist.. he drew a very detailed nature picture trees,deers, squirrels, and all of that stuff.. but when you took exactly three normal size steps back..you saw a clear depiction of jesus
I was hoping to talk to you about setting up a table in the lobby where I will be selling my book Answers to Questions the Bible Doesn't Answer. The space needs to be in a high traffic area that no one can avoid.
A someone who now leads a group/class, I can tell you point blank that first one, no matter your denomination, should be as huge a red flag as the Soviet Union was in all of those parades the USSR would frequently have they put on TV. It never crossed my mind to ever lead/teach a class for over fifteen years.
We moved to a new town where we had no family or local contacts and no church in our prior denomination. One place we picked to visit from a list turned out to be a Fundamental Independent Baptist - up to then didn't know what that was. When my wife and I introduced ourselves to the pastor, he asked what I did for a living. When I told him I was a professor at a technical college [career-focused, applied technology] he quickly replied "you aren't welcome here." That made it abundantly clear that was not the place for my family! :-)
I’ve heard many of these😂 Some other ones I heard are: “God has shown me who the antichrist is, and you’d be surprised.” “God has sent me here with a word. I need to share it.”
Having a desire and being gifted to teach is a good thing. But introducing oneself as the video suggests indicates impatience and out of place priorities. Additionally, a church would be foolish to entrust a teaching position to an unknown person.
@@ConversationswithaCalvinist I get this, but as someone who is a teacher and has been his whole life, its a bit worrisome from the perspective of a new-er congregant. The pastor can literally preach a sermon on being more involved in the church, yet get completely turned off by your willingness to help. Kind of a lose-lose situation to not bring up a desire to teach if you are a teacher. Obvs you don't do this on day one. But a year in? Two years? Three? For some of us with a need/desire to teach in this capacity, it can be incredibly disheartening to see the Pastor rather you buzz off and just pay your tithe.
@@42elliott there is definitely a balance. I want to know what people’s giftings are, and usually I meet with visiting families early in their time with us and try to help see how they may see themselves serving in our congregation. I have no issue with a man who is confident and gifted to teach letting me know that. The video is based more on the person who has no interest in learning what the church teaches and no desire to get to know the people, and just wants a place to hold court. I’ve definitely had more than a few of those guys show up, and so often they have a pet theological issue they want to focus on (usually eschatology! Lol).
The implication is that they’re Mormon. Polygamy was practiced in Utah between 1850 and 1890. Today only fringe offshoot Mormon fundamentalists practice polygamy.
@@KnuttyEntertainment Secular statistics are suggesting that 40% of women will be single & childless by 2030, here in the US Marriages are down to historic lows in the US (actually unprecedented lows for peace time). And more men are opting to remain single as marriages are disposable under secular laws, and women are given a healthy some of money to dispose of them. Others have suggested the rise of polygamy in the future in many faiths & even secular society.
It is what most want to know in the professing church I have heard it many dif ways mostly it comes out like this If I had to be obedient to be saved I would not know how much to obey or if I had to start living holy I would not know how holy I would need to be so therefore I dont Or If I could lose it I would have, or Jesus only gave us the sermon on the mount to tell us we cannot obey him Regardless of the fact he leaves no room for that or repentance is only turning from thinking you can do anything to repent and stop trying to earn it Guess that was why Sodom was destroyed or the flood came, I mean could you imagine if those people before the flood just stopped trying to be so holy they all speak against the call to holiness that Jesus and the apostles preached
@@ChiknEatnBaptistI just listened again - so crazy lol. I can’t imagine some of these happening in a presby church though - yet another reason to go presby lol.
@@PaDutchRunner I am 29 years old and grew up in Calvary chapel/non-denominational churches my entire life and used to see that kind of stuff all the time Lol. I am now a reformed Baptist.
1 Corinthians 14:36 King James Version 36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? Churchianity's entire concept of how service is conducted isn't anything close to Biblical.
Foskey is a funny guy; laughed at some of his lines. But Foskey is misleading with his calvinist doctrines. Yeah, I can be funny too; Foskey is nothing about a fat Pharasie "wolfing down" donuts in the fellowship hall after the service.
“The last church I attended, the Spirit moved me to stand up while the pastor was preaching and share the vision he gave me about the drummer in the worship team.” True story.
Lol
Sad.
😮😮😮😮
🤦♀️🤦♀️
Ta dum dum ching.
"What time do we pass the snakes around?"
I brought my own how boutique you?
When the spirit moves, we start to pass them around.
That's good. 😂
“My other wife” sir the LDS hall or whatever they call it is 2 blocks north of here
You need to refer them to the FLDS as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hasn't practiced polygymy since 1890.
Break off sects do, tho'. 😊 And the occasional ex communicated member. LoL
As someone who was searching for a new church last year, this makes me feel so much better 😂
My last church said gluttony was a sin so here I am w u and ur belly!!!!! GLUTTONY!!!!
Never thought about toxic potential new members. Very good to ponder. The enemy loves to send wolves to seek fresh new sheep
My favorite is, " my last 6 pastors said,I am a handful.🤣
Not what I was expecting-I thought it would be red flags for visitors. But I like this better.
He has another video about that.
Oof, suffered through #3 real bad last year. Got a dude trying to be #1 now. First week, 'how long before I can be on the worship team?' next week: "Some 3,000 member churches already let me on worship team by this point." Yeah, at this point I don't think you'll ever be on worship team...
Why does the orchestra have to play the same song the vocalists are singing if the spirit filled violinist/keyboardist feels led to play something else?
Awesome! Here some fun ones... How about the prophecy wonk who wants to preach asap or the charismatic who has a vision for you and your church? I'm only mentioning the PG ones I've encountered!
What is the worst New visitor red flag that you experienced as a pastor? This was very funny. I liked the one that said "don't contact my last church, they are all liars".
I wouldnt call that a red flag immediately. For a group of people who arent supposed to gossip or lie, we sure do a good job of both! because telling the truth, in love, is a very dangerous thing. I've learned to keep my BIG mouth shut (more or less).
@@inconnu4961I had a wonderful pastor that left his last church because as an elder he went to his pastor about a conflict of interest he saw happening with him. He got nowhere so he went with another elder and approached the other elders and they told him he was being contentious. Eventually they made life so miserable for him he and the other elder resigned their membership.
This church contacted every church in our town to tell them not to fellowship with him because he was factious(he was even the Sunday school teacher). He went from church to church and they actually told him to leave.
He basically started a church from nothing. I found them thru the T4G website and eventually we had several solid members but after two years he dissolved the church because the last church was still making his life miserable and said if he closed it they would leave him alone. I followed him and his family to one baptist church and after that pastor approached him and asked him to leave, I left too. What Christian does that? It was like a bad movie.
We found another church that he was friends with the pastor and we worshiped happily for years until he moved away. Sometimes you have to stand up for what’s right🙏
At least he asked politely if anyone else is a single too 🥴
I don't think it's an issue to ask you who's available to pursue..
I as a single asked around and people made my single status the butt end of their joke and the married men refused to help or give suggestions..
What made it harder for me was there were no single women there..
I finally met someone via a song evangelist family and we're getting married next week.
@@rauldelarosa2768good news. There are no single women without kids under 40 in any church.
@@slackjaw4270 not true at all I don't know what church you go to but I've seen older woman who never got married and never had kids.
@@slackjaw4270 by the way it took a while but I finally did find a woman who never was pregnant or married..
I was 44 and she was 37 when we got married.
@@rauldelarosa2768 great news!
Hey. I've met a few of these guys over the years. You described them well.
At least he was interested in the single ladies.
Because one is worse than the other? Nope.
@@MrAndyhdz If you don’t think sodomy is worse than natural attraction then there isn’t much I can do to help you. You could try reading Romans 1 but I’m guessing there is a reason you think that way.
@@gew1898 focus on your sins before trying to reach up to God by standing on the backs of others.
@@MrAndyhdz Whatever my sins may be they don’t include sodomy, or sympathy for its practitioners. The spirit of this age has apparently gotten you in its grasp. For you to equate normal sexual attraction with same sex attraction is pretty telling.
@@gew1898 Exactly! Oh the horror of a young man looking for a Godly woman to marry in church! /sarc
Where else is a man supposed to look for a wife? Bars? It's not a sin to find women attractive.
When i was about 12 or 13 i was in a boys youth group called p.f.c. pioneers for christ we would have our bible studies with the pastor of the church our drummer had a role too i dont remember but just to help i guess and a man who was like my second dad.. anyway long in the short a new family came to our church n he started wantin to take all the teenage girls home instead of riding the church bus he was creepin on them girls always touchin their shoulers n jokin with them the wife was just all goin along with it..the pastor said they need to ride the church bus thats why we have it so that stopped..then it came time for us boys to go on our camping trip and this guy asked the preacher if he could bring his two pet rattlesnakes!..RATTLESNAKES!!.. the preacher asked him that day to politely leave and find another church and ask the lord to help him... just to add the guy was an imcredible artist.. he drew a very detailed nature picture trees,deers, squirrels, and all of that stuff.. but when you took exactly three normal size steps back..you saw a clear depiction of jesus
"when does the speaking in tongues class start?"
I was hoping to talk to you about setting up a table in the lobby where I will be selling my book Answers to Questions the Bible Doesn't Answer. The space needs to be in a high traffic area that no one can avoid.
Just love how you pinpoint the trouble spots.
“Is this a Spirit-filled church?”
😂 AKA Are yall charismatic?
Not many are spirit-filled these days! The Spirit is quitting the church too! Bring on the Great Falling Away!
@@inconnu4961 if spirits fill your church building you might need what the catholics call an exorcism 🤣
My guy, this was amazing!
Good to see you on the comment streets LOL I am subbed to you
Is contacting or wanting to know someone's former pastor(s) even normally done?
The last one....Defcon 4! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
fyi defcon 4 is peacetime. 1 is war. s-u-p-e-r-i-o-r n-e-r-d-o-l-o-g-y
I can sell the cheap cologne off of the final guy.
Sell or smell?
A someone who now leads a group/class, I can tell you point blank that first one, no matter your denomination, should be as huge a red flag as the Soviet Union was in all of those parades the USSR would frequently have they put on TV. It never crossed my mind to ever lead/teach a class for over fifteen years.
I can escape the back row unseen with the skill of the most talented secret agent. You'll never pin a red flag on me.
Nailed it!
Why do I feel like the multi level marketing one is real, I mean that is desperate thing to do but it wouldn't be here if it didn't happen.
We moved to a new town where we had no family or local contacts and no church in our prior denomination. One place we picked to visit from a list turned out to be a Fundamental Independent Baptist - up to then didn't know what that was. When my wife and I introduced ourselves to the pastor, he asked what I did for a living. When I told him I was a professor at a technical college [career-focused, applied technology] he quickly replied "you aren't welcome here." That made it abundantly clear that was not the place for my family! :-)
That is so sad! I wonder what made your career a problem for them? Because it was a science based field?
@@ConversationswithaCalvinist Secular higher education in general! 🙂
Genuinely though, how long should one be a member of a church before you get involved in things like worship or potlucks?
How about us poor Christians trying to find a church post-lockdown? Got any red flag warnings for us?
Stay away from the Mega churches! Especially any with saddleback in its name.
Good stuff.
Guess I'll keep church hopping.
Our pastors do it. It’s a way to make sure that you haven’t left your previous church because of conflict or church discipline.
Are these based upon prior experiences?
Indeed!
@@ConversationswithaCalvinist Some of these I understand, but the one with mutliple wives... Wow.
What denomination was the polygamist you met?
@@KnuttyEntertainment Secular. LOL
@@inconnu4961 Most likely.
I’ve heard many of these😂
Some other ones I heard are:
“God has shown me who the antichrist is, and you’d be surprised.”
“God has sent me here with a word. I need to share it.”
super funny and good acting bro
Hey brother I’m just curious why exactly is it a red flag when they ask you when they can start teaching?
Having a desire and being gifted to teach is a good thing. But introducing oneself as the video suggests indicates impatience and out of place priorities. Additionally, a church would be foolish to entrust a teaching position to an unknown person.
@@ConversationswithaCalvinist I get this, but as someone who is a teacher and has been his whole life, its a bit worrisome from the perspective of a new-er congregant. The pastor can literally preach a sermon on being more involved in the church, yet get completely turned off by your willingness to help. Kind of a lose-lose situation to not bring up a desire to teach if you are a teacher. Obvs you don't do this on day one. But a year in? Two years? Three? For some of us with a need/desire to teach in this capacity, it can be incredibly disheartening to see the Pastor rather you buzz off and just pay your tithe.
@@ConversationswithaCalvinist should have said, "Curious on your two cents", sorry!
@@42elliott there is definitely a balance. I want to know what people’s giftings are, and usually I meet with visiting families early in their time with us and try to help see how they may see themselves serving in our congregation. I have no issue with a man who is confident and gifted to teach letting me know that.
The video is based more on the person who has no interest in learning what the church teaches and no desire to get to know the people, and just wants a place to hold court. I’ve definitely had more than a few of those guys show up, and so often they have a pet theological issue they want to focus on (usually eschatology! Lol).
@@ConversationswithaCalvinist no doubt, especially when they start pulling out their own hand-drawn charts and self-published .pdfs
Tom seems nice
Since this is a church I was wondering if yiu could give me some money for.....
I'm sorry, but what was wrong with the second to last guy, lol?
The one with two wives?
Polygamist lol
The implication is that they’re Mormon. Polygamy was practiced in Utah between 1850 and 1890. Today only fringe offshoot Mormon fundamentalists practice polygamy.
It's implied he's Mormon
@@KnuttyEntertainment Secular statistics are suggesting that 40% of women will be single & childless by 2030, here in the US Marriages are down to historic lows in the US (actually unprecedented lows for peace time). And more men are opting to remain single as marriages are disposable under secular laws, and women are given a healthy some of money to dispose of them. Others have suggested the rise of polygamy in the future in many faiths & even secular society.
:12 is definitely based in Utah
"Pastor this is my husband John"
"Pastor this is my wife Aisha and my other wife Faitma"
How much sin can I get away with AKA how much do we have to obey Jesus and still be saved
Is this a genuine question?
It is what most want to know in the professing church
I have heard it many dif ways
mostly it comes out like this If I had to be obedient to be saved I would not know how much to obey
or if I had to start living holy I would not know how holy I would need to be so therefore I dont
Or If I could lose it I would have, or Jesus only gave us the sermon on the mount to tell us we cannot obey him
Regardless of the fact he leaves no room for that
or repentance is only turning from thinking you can do anything to repent and stop trying to earn it
Guess that was why Sodom was destroyed or the flood came, I mean could you imagine if those people before the flood just stopped trying to be so holy
they all speak against the call to holiness that Jesus and the apostles preached
Have you seriously experienced each one of these first hand?? Lol
My dad was a pastor of a church and he experienced literally ALL of these.. I am not joking.. we had some nut jobs come to the church.
@@ChiknEatnBaptist wow!
@@ChiknEatnBaptistI just listened again - so crazy lol. I can’t imagine some of these happening in a presby church though - yet another reason to go presby lol.
@@PaDutchRunner I am 29 years old and grew up in Calvary chapel/non-denominational churches my entire life and used to see that kind of stuff all the time Lol.
I am now a reformed Baptist.
@@ChiknEatnBaptist good move!!
Okay. Given the harrowing state of Christian dating these days that last one is … probably a bad sign
😂
Funny but unfortunate
1 Corinthians 14:36
King James Version
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
Churchianity's entire concept of how service is conducted isn't anything close to Biblical.
Then tell us how a service should be run?
Wow. Does anyone really do that?
Yep!!
Yes!
What's the biblical reason for rejecting polygyny?
Genesis 1
@@Richardcontramundum Can you be specific?
Jesus married only John, but still demanded love from Peter.
Every biblical example of polygamous behavior immediately descends into a morass of misery, conflict, and sin.
Matthew 19 > he shall be joined to his wife, not wives. The two shall become one flesh, not the 8 of them.
How do I ask if there are single women though 😂
So you would red-flag Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Gideon, and the man after God's own heart David?
Wow!
Can’t stand the multi-level marketing “friends.” So greasy.
So...what, you should only accept lukewarm visitors to your church? And you kick them out if they're a "handful"?
That's a much bigger red flag.
Foskey is a funny guy; laughed at some of his lines. But Foskey is misleading with his calvinist doctrines. Yeah, I can be funny too; Foskey is nothing about a fat Pharasie "wolfing down" donuts in the fellowship hall after the service.