Theories in Swimbaiting: Beyond the Breaking Point

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024
  • Another trip down the rabbit hole with Mike Gilbert as he discusses what he describes as the Breaking Point for Trophy Bass and their willingness to commit to the big bait in high pressure situations.
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Комментарии • 89

  • @galva777tx
    @galva777tx 6 лет назад +6

    I was long lining an I-Slide 262 yesterday in East Texas. Water temp varied 85°-88° fishing a channel flat with a drop off to about 20 feet. Spooled out alot of line felt two hits on the retrieve but no bait chokers. Your exactly right Mike what ever works! No different than long lining a Texas or Carolina rig. Think outside of the box.

    • @detexoutdoors2509
      @detexoutdoors2509 6 лет назад

      galva777tx I’m swimbaiting in east Texas too man, where you from?

    • @galva777tx
      @galva777tx 6 лет назад

      Deep East Texas Boys: I live up here in Garland drive out to Old Mill Creek, Purtis Creek etc.

    • @detexoutdoors2509
      @detexoutdoors2509 6 лет назад

      Got you, I’m way east. Lake O’ the Pines, Toledo Bend, Naconiche, Murvaul. You getting some good fish out there?

    • @galva777tx
      @galva777tx 6 лет назад

      Deep East Texas Boys nothing Big yet your typical Texas 3-5 lb. Dinks. Hopefully fall will be better. I've heard good things about Naconiche and Murval. I believe some of those F1 bass Mike may be on were transplanted out in Cali years ago.....came out of Murval.

    • @detexoutdoors2509
      @detexoutdoors2509 6 лет назад

      galva777tx yessir, Murvaul is my home lake. If I’m not mistaken, when the Share Lunker program was started, they got their males out of Murvaul. I hung one on Naconiche on Saturday that I couldn’t do anything with. 8’ xheavy rod, 65# braid, 30+# drag. Pulled me down into a treetop as soon as I set the hook. Never could get it out.

  • @creedecentko469
    @creedecentko469 6 лет назад +6

    another winner bud. glad you touched on the the negative "stigma" that certain techniques get. just throwing the larger baits in my region get a guy a lot of flack, but I agree that at the end of the day we all have that one goal, the biggest fish in that water system. I think the bad press a lot of this stuff gets can be primarily chalked up to fear of change and the unknown.

  • @robertflames86
    @robertflames86 6 лет назад +1

    Worked for me. I casted in a private community lake,,,,backed up and let line almost run out and while retrieving I've landed Bass way out there on a Battleshad is i believe you man! good stuff its gold

  • @kms2628
    @kms2628 6 лет назад +2

    Thank You for taking my to time to produce these videos. The way you talk about technique, conditions, equipment, mentality of the target is gold. Breaking down the subtle nuances are the difference between not getting the bit and getting a fish of a lifetime, I think only 2% of anglers get that. Keep it up man!

  • @lamontewyche2071
    @lamontewyche2071 6 лет назад +1

    BRILLIANT information. Hidden gems of knowledge that makes some people stand out.

  • @kurtb5208
    @kurtb5208 6 лет назад +16

    Next theories in Swimbaiting: Solo netting giants without having a heart attack

    • @WorkingClassZeroFishing
      @WorkingClassZeroFishing  6 лет назад +6

      Thats not a subject that I can discuss to well considering a fumble almost every time.

    • @kurtb5208
      @kurtb5208 6 лет назад +3

      Haha everytime I watch "Seventeen" I still think it going to get off at the net

  • @jimmyhuynh7400
    @jimmyhuynh7400 4 года назад +1

    I remember those days bro! Definitely open my eyes at that time. Good times

  • @hosho2350
    @hosho2350 6 лет назад +3

    This material is gold

  • @CookingandFishing
    @CookingandFishing 6 лет назад +8

    This stuff is gold. Thank you for sharing!!

  • @noahfertick7256
    @noahfertick7256 6 лет назад +1

    I've never thought of that before, that makes a lot of sense. I agree with your point on "outsmarting the fisherman", I think there's a lot of small things to do that can set you apart from everyone else. I think a lot of people ignore that, and are missing out.

  • @Rickholmesjrmusic
    @Rickholmesjrmusic 6 лет назад +2

    my pops always said the longer the cast you make the more chances you have to catch a fish!!!! great video!!!! thanks for sharing!!!!

  • @CosmicCrates
    @CosmicCrates Год назад

    Thanks for all the tips and your incredible videos. You're a legend, Mike. One additional thought here building on your points... even just keeping the bait in the strike zone 2x-3x as long should increase your odds by at least that amount, and then I agree 100% that there's an extra kicker/multiplier resulting from a unique presentation and greater distance from the boat. Gold.

  • @bdsimi
    @bdsimi 6 лет назад +2

    Holy Shit!!! I had no idea that you were a miner Mike.....Cause this shit is absolute gold bud!!!

  • @ironbound8438
    @ironbound8438 6 лет назад +3

    I noticed that in one of your vids, after your cast you trolled away after you cast. Seemed like it paid off . Good stuff dude. Keep it coming

  • @WaterWarriorFishing
    @WaterWarriorFishing 6 лет назад +1

    Mike G is a LEGEND. Thank you for this man

  • @gijsberthoogendoorn7988
    @gijsberthoogendoorn7988 Год назад +1

    This makes so much sense.

  • @stephensmith3745
    @stephensmith3745 5 лет назад

    I'm new to swimbait fishing but I've been bass fishing for 40 years and I have never had that kind of thought on a presentation that is top notch stuff right 3

  • @jeffflosi3541
    @jeffflosi3541 6 лет назад +2

    "The Pursuit of Giants" love it thx for sharing

  • @michaelgruber616
    @michaelgruber616 6 лет назад +2

    thanks Mike!

  • @zachshott7833
    @zachshott7833 6 лет назад +2

    Interesting thought, and I think it makes sense for sure!

  • @steveloewen8270
    @steveloewen8270 6 лет назад +1

    I've got so many big fish on big swimbaits slow trolling on a very long line, I think they get tuned into the splash also, especially here in little Cali Lakes.

  • @RockwellsOutdoorAndMore
    @RockwellsOutdoorAndMore 6 лет назад +3

    this just opened up a whole new variable for my fishing

    • @WorkingClassZeroFishing
      @WorkingClassZeroFishing  6 лет назад +1

      Hope it produces for you in the right spots

    • @RockwellsOutdoorAndMore
      @RockwellsOutdoorAndMore 6 лет назад

      Working Class Zero I'm sure it will just need to learn the quirks of my particular bodies of water ,with that being said it seems more of a soft bait technique in a sense so thinking it's time to pickup a big softy to mess with

  • @alexgreenfishing7692
    @alexgreenfishing7692 6 лет назад +1

    Your thought processes don't know any box! Good stuff.

  • @bobbybirdfishing8008
    @bobbybirdfishing8008 5 лет назад

    I'm just getting into Big Bait Fishing, this video series is awesome. your insights are super interesting! even in regards to some conventional baits. Thanks for sharing bro!

  • @delbertadkins1273
    @delbertadkins1273 6 лет назад +1

    I think it a awesome perspective that I haven't really put to much thought in to but now I will. I will defanintly be putting thought in to how i can capitalize on this specific technique in my waters.

  • @thomasfinley4182
    @thomasfinley4182 6 лет назад +4

    Makes sense 👍 i have just the spot to try this too.

  • @rcagle123
    @rcagle123 6 лет назад +2

    How many times have you had a bass follow your lure all the way to the boat and just as he is fixing to commit, he sees the boat and darts away? Your theory makes a lot of sense. I've also notice when I troll for sandbass or hybrids the long line seems to catch more fish.

  • @victordold2916
    @victordold2916 6 лет назад +3

    Wow bro u got something here. I like you talks bro keep them coming

  • @gerikmeyers5523
    @gerikmeyers5523 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much, keep up the great videos!

  • @12321Silent
    @12321Silent 6 лет назад +1

    Informative stuff man thank you. Plus I cant help but see some jackass gave you a thumbs down even though these are your thoughts n Trial and errors in the big bass game. At least you have the confidence to show us your Techniques n not hide it like most people would. Thanks again

  • @nathanb1084
    @nathanb1084 6 лет назад

    That is great info Mike. Shifts my perspective. Thanks.

  • @101tomahawk
    @101tomahawk 6 лет назад +1

    Really enjoying your channel. Thank you. When are you going to get in some more of those Battle Shads??

  • @sacpig6839
    @sacpig6839 5 лет назад

    Older bass are way smarter than we give them credit for. Glad you give them the credit they deserve.

  • @pelagicprincesses6123
    @pelagicprincesses6123 5 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing, will definitely try the technique!

  • @jasongregory976
    @jasongregory976 6 лет назад +1

    Good stuff thanks mike!

  • @felipe33915
    @felipe33915 5 лет назад

    Great Stuff! Thax for sharing man. Your knowledge is inspiring!!!

  • @jdean1851
    @jdean1851 6 лет назад +1

    your best vid yet! THANX from Idaho"

  • @chrisfisher3900
    @chrisfisher3900 6 лет назад +1

    Good theory I’m gonna have to try it out. 👍🏻

  • @bassinterceptor9634
    @bassinterceptor9634 6 лет назад +1

    Gilbert, This Green Bass filming closet, location please explain. Swimbaits , double microwaves
    Your thoughts, techniques and bass strategies are next level dude

    • @WorkingClassZeroFishing
      @WorkingClassZeroFishing  6 лет назад +1

      Bass Blaster 3000 you have to watch the Introduction video for the Theories in Swimbaiting series.

    • @bassinterceptor9634
      @bassinterceptor9634 6 лет назад +1

      Working Class Zero
      Corner of garage, totally missed that moment at start
      Basically this is he place all the magic happens, your safe place. keeps these vids coming. Such a crazy ,unique and in depth knowledge of targeting big bass

  • @RedBeardBassin
    @RedBeardBassin 6 лет назад +1

    mike plays by no rules! haha love it.

  • @eugenemccracken3810
    @eugenemccracken3810 3 года назад

    Awesome info mike 🤘🏽😎

  • @plutoplatters
    @plutoplatters 5 лет назад +1

    this reminds me of something.... often when i'm at a lake that I know very well... I trip on the areas that you NEVER see anyone fishing...ever I can't help from think .. that area's like it's a "closed area" it's NEVER fished ! guess i'm sayin it's like virgin water ...

  • @FishingWithFred
    @FishingWithFred 6 лет назад +1

    Sick man

  • @tylerr.3209
    @tylerr.3209 6 лет назад

    How bout some knot videos and leader materials if any at all love your videos

  • @codycrist6448
    @codycrist6448 6 лет назад +1

    You proved this theory in the last video! I will for sure be giving this a try! Also what is your opinion on the Optimum Baits Thumper Tail? Thanks!

    • @WorkingClassZeroFishing
      @WorkingClassZeroFishing  6 лет назад

      Ive seen the thumper tail in action and catching fish. Good bait for a time and place.

  • @MtnWBassin
    @MtnWBassin 6 лет назад +1

    How would it work if I have a large swimbait with a fast rate of fall .. without it getting caught all in the weeds on the bottom ? Basically wasting a cast to get the grass off?

  • @michaeljohnston4167
    @michaeljohnston4167 6 лет назад

    Great info! I dream of doing this when I have a boat! Would you have any big bait theorys for shore guys? I have some myself from fishing good ole diamond valley lake in trout season.

  • @Richard-mj5dp
    @Richard-mj5dp 3 года назад

    This distance is interesting. Ducks learn the length a gun will shoot and fly just out of range to die but close enough to investigate.

  • @Redman90
    @Redman90 4 года назад

    Thoughts on trolling your bait out of a spot. Long cast and dump some line then troll out while bait works thru your target area i.e. staying in strike zone longer because bait won't be coming to the boat

    • @WorkingClassZeroFishing
      @WorkingClassZeroFishing  4 года назад +1

      Coming soon. Watch the "Cast Back Magic" Video we have on the Channel. Its exactly this.

  • @foreignbeggar3783
    @foreignbeggar3783 5 лет назад

    i’m mostly a shore fisherman, because I can’t afford a boat for now & ive wondered if this method would work. say i’m fishing a decent sized pond and I bomb a cast out and walk... 50-100 yards down the bank just dumping line the entire time. I think it’s possible that it could work just as well.
    i’m just hesitant to throw one of my big hard swimbaits because... well, it’s a pond. and there’s tons of shit for me to get stuck on. and I know I should already consider it gone. but damn.

  • @zucinnied
    @zucinnied 6 лет назад +1

    Retrieve speed has to change as you doing this doesnt it? As line spools back up youd have to slow down a bit? Or do you just go constant the whole time? Sweet theory!!! Could explain why fishing the bank fish will follow in then trail off 6ft from it.

  • @_streamers__streamers_810
    @_streamers__streamers_810 5 лет назад

    Can you go more in depth on knots you tie and why I'm curios?

  • @Fryday870
    @Fryday870 6 лет назад

    Another awesome video Mike! You definitely keep giving me new things to consider while I experiment more with the swimbait/glide bait game. Also if you don't mind, what is the multi-jointed bait directly over your right (my left) shoulder?

    • @WorkingClassZeroFishing
      @WorkingClassZeroFishing  6 лет назад +1

      Its either a Nates 5 piece or Hinkle Shad 5 piece. There are two multi Jointed baits hanging there.

    • @Fryday870
      @Fryday870 6 лет назад

      Working Class Zero turns out it was the Nates 5 piece. Thanks Mike!

  • @oldhickory3028
    @oldhickory3028 6 лет назад +1

    You want hater's, come to Florida and fish with live bait. Some of my earliest memories are of my dad and I bank fishing or small john boat fishing with giant shinners or blue gill. We caught so many giant bass.
    But now day's you will get cussed off the lake if you fish live bait. I still fish live bait every now and then and I don't really give a shit. It's very much legal and productive. I will try the long line technique your talking about. Keep giving it hell out there brother.

  • @johnnychilders9236
    @johnnychilders9236 6 лет назад +1

    Long lining while hitting it from shore? I wonder if that would make a difference as well

    • @WorkingClassZeroFishing
      @WorkingClassZeroFishing  6 лет назад +1

      Johnny Childers that’s how it started for me. Shore banging and dragging long parallels with the shore

  • @mindyaguliar9346
    @mindyaguliar9346 6 лет назад +1

    That's a lot of work for one retrieve.

  • @SolarfallBaits
    @SolarfallBaits 6 лет назад +1

    If keeping the bait in the strike zone for that big bite as long as possible is the way to go for highly presured fish, why not just troll the baits with a long line around the areas you think they are hanging out rather than casting ?

  • @bobsmith1841
    @bobsmith1841 6 лет назад

    What's your favorite lake to swimbait fish?

  • @logansherman3648
    @logansherman3648 4 года назад +1

    Would this technique be applicable to bank fisherman?

  • @bobsmith1841
    @bobsmith1841 6 лет назад +1

    You ever fished clear lake?

  • @plutoplatters
    @plutoplatters 5 лет назад

    if the bait's a LONG way away from the boat... it's can't help from appear more natural.... is what im hearing... makes sense

  • @WaterWarriorFishing
    @WaterWarriorFishing 6 лет назад +3

    This channel is incredibly under subbed

  • @tylerr.3209
    @tylerr.3209 6 лет назад +1

    Whoo

  • @dasbassfish
    @dasbassfish 4 года назад

    so much info in this clip. I was like dude how can you tell everyone this BUT I get it sharing info educating people ... fortunately most people are too arrogant to actually listen to what youre throwing down here. also, to your point, I have the FL IGFA line class record for 4lb, 13.25lbs.. for years all I head was so much crap about no way this an that, fact of the matter they have no idea how long I hunted that fish and the perfect window I had.. anyway, most all anglers have something to say but its just too veneer, selling shitty stock baits and BS rhetoric, but havent put the time in,, you keep it 'working class zero' .. I am a fan of nothing but def subscribe bro .

  • @C00oo0Lbeans
    @C00oo0Lbeans 6 лет назад

    True or false: you have a shrine to Bill Murphy somewhere in your home or garage.

  • @tristinblades1970
    @tristinblades1970 3 года назад

    now you should work on stocking your store!!

  • @WattHowar-e9i
    @WattHowar-e9i 2 месяца назад

    Lewis Scott White Jeffrey Clark Ruth

  • @geneparmesan3595
    @geneparmesan3595 6 лет назад

    my nigga