So much sublime brilliance in this video... from the depth of interaction to the unabashed daring group interplay to the risk-taking story-telling narratives on display. AND -- Tivon is no joke. Beautiful -- thanks for posting Jonah!
I like this. These young conservatory trained guys have chops and haven't played many general business gigs because they don't exist anymore. So they just take rhythms and harmonies way out there because it's fun and they can. I don't knock this at all like the guy a little further down on the thread did. It's just music!
they fuck with the form interestingly but still give you a little somethng to hold onto to, refer to the original songs shapes enough to make it a conversation with the audience, too not just between themselves and music majors. . most wankers don't. know how to do that. le difference between playing freely, and just jacking off "musically" before a bewildered and bored public.Take note young wankers, heirs to the jazz audience killing "straight ahead" guys that were your teachers, and almost killed jazz dead. Otherwise you really will kill jazz completely dead.
Brilliant, beautiful deconstruction of a tune that's been played gazillions of times. Technically, musically, tonally and improvisationally fascinating. Listen once and move on.
Éste chico Ari, llegó al Olimpo de la batería, allí lo reciben, Morgan Agren y Hubb Hansen. Definitivamente este tipo se le tiene respeto, está en otro nivel.
AABA, 4/4. Won't sound like it at first, but it is. They don't have cues written into the music, but they cue the audience once in a while, which is nice!
gosh people ! do you know why is billies bounce by ari hoenig from smalls not available anymore? I wanted to listen to it after long time and I cannot find it! :((((
Filip Wolski for some reason RUclips removed it. Might have been a copyright error. I talked with Ari and he is going to repost it on his channel. Thanks for your patience.
LOL exactly... pure chaos at the expense of trying to "reach" for what is not there... Where is the discipline to play "inside" these days.... Its way easier to play "out" and have no fulcrum of tonal centre as opposed to playing like Pops or Prez...Im totally lost in this performance... and it wouldn't surprise me if the players were also....
I don't hear anyone lost at any moment of this performance honestly, I hear every single player acutely aware of each other and their respective functions in the moment. Like you say, a lesser musician would probably have gotten lost but these guys are most definitely not.
....have any of you listened to Live at the plugged nickel??? Second great quintet? You know Tony's whole schtick on that gig was that they were "getting lost on purpose" and intentionally abandoning and returning to the form?or Circle with Anthony Braxton Chick Corea and Dave Holland? Ari's band even still does a head in and head out, which these days innovators like John Hollenbeck are questioning. Jazz is not a music that should stagnate by having musicians be slaves to form, and these musicians clearly still revere and respect the tradition.
Oh man, I don't know. I'm just not a believer. I've watched dozens of Hoenig vids on the recommendation of friends, and I just don't feel it. Maybe if I heard Mr. Hoenig live, maybe if I were there, I'd dig it more. But this just leaves me cold. It's a lot of technique with absolutely no musical center at all. They all sound like they're reaching for something profound but not getting there. In other words, it sounds like really well executed bullshit. Worse, it's all stuff we've heard before and done much better by Coltrane, Tristano, Monk, Haynes, etc, etc, etc. Someone earlier mentioned "conservatory trained", and that's what I think the issue is for me. NONE of these guys have any identity whatsoever. Or interesting ideas. Or the ability to interact with each other in any meaningful way. Anyway, not a fan.
Maybe you should not be such a prick, that would really help. They are having fun and it is amazing live. Communication is the key and if you say that you have heard this before, I would recommend you ear examination. This is not the bop you've heard from "Coltrane, Tristano, Monk, Haynes". It would be perfectly enough if you admitted that you do not like it, or don't understand it. But hell no, you must be a smartass and insult. Only bullshit I smell around here is your useless comment. Grab your ego and hand in hand go away, nobody is forcing you to like it or even listen to it. ;o)
Jean Michel is self taught, he never even went to conservatory. These people are transcribed for their originality all the time. The transitions in the tune are so tight and everyone is clearly listening to each other intensely and constantly. It sounds like your not a musician so maybe you don't know how difficult it is to keep your concentration that focused for a 15 minute tune. I don't know why you're comparing these people to Trane or Monk or Roy, this isn't bebop, and jazz doesn't have to bebop.
i notice something new every time i rewatch this i love it
So much sublime brilliance in this video... from the depth of interaction to the unabashed daring group interplay to the risk-taking story-telling narratives on display. AND -- Tivon is no joke. Beautiful -- thanks for posting Jonah!
Jean-Michel Pilc is one of the craziest pianists ive ever heard! And self taught!
listen to Cecil !!!
That left ride when crashed, sounds like an active volcano spitting out lava
What a great performance!
That was the best first two choruses to a drums solo I EVER HEARD
love this... true risk takers
Dude Tivon is NUTS! Sounds dope, so fresh and rhythmically active, but still so melodic and free... agh young lion!!!
I like this. These young conservatory trained guys have chops and haven't played many general business gigs because they don't exist anymore. So they just take rhythms and harmonies way out there because it's fun and they can. I don't knock this at all like the guy a little further down on the thread did. It's just music!
Patrick Kelly GB gigs are very plentiful lol
they fuck with the form interestingly but still give you a little somethng to hold onto to, refer to the original songs shapes enough to make it a conversation with the audience, too not just between themselves and music majors. .
most wankers don't. know how to do that. le difference between playing freely, and just jacking off "musically" before a bewildered and bored public.Take note young wankers, heirs to the jazz audience killing "straight ahead" guys that were your teachers, and almost killed jazz dead. Otherwise you really will kill jazz completely dead.
Ari is out of this world... and a genius, but, he really is the Joe Cocker of jazz drumming...
This is some next level shit…. Damn.
Just awesome !!!!!!
amazing, great rendition of a timeless standard.
The jazzers have made crazy things with this standard....for decades ! . My standar of the standard is Abbey Lincoln version.
Pennicott's run at 4:42 is stunning
wonderful solo
Brilliant, beautiful deconstruction of a tune that's been played gazillions of times. Technically, musically, tonally and improvisationally fascinating. Listen once and move on.
Thanks for this video, great stuff. Nice camera as well.
Ari's groups always kill it !
Stunning!
Éste chico Ari, llegó al Olimpo de la batería, allí lo reciben, Morgan Agren y Hubb Hansen. Definitivamente este tipo se le tiene respeto, está en otro nivel.
Mind Blowing
great sound! :')
i love it!
GREAT shot or shoot I dont know what is the exactly word but,, you know. Smalls at first seat! really great. Greetings from Chile
Holy fuck this hops
TIVON!!!
We played some stuff like two years ago. You killin it!!!
amazing video. I gotta get in touch with these guys more.
Muito bom... Vary good!!!
j'adore !
AABA, 4/4. Won't sound like it at first, but it is. They don't have cues written into the music, but they cue the audience once in a while, which is nice!
synchronized to my heart !
WOoooo!
Nice quote (almost, but rhythmically exact) of "A Night In Tunisia" at 01:05!
Awesome!!!
super coooolll!!!!!!!! 最高！
thank you jonahjonathan, very nice upload
Thanks man
Lords of time
dude..... Ari @ 10:50 - 11:00.... so awesome.
my braaaaaiinnnnn
it hurts after this
Amazing.
Wouaou
top top top fantastic
outstanding!
Your welcome..stay tuned for more from this concert
your welcome
JONAH JONATHAN you sir are doing gods work
softly as in a morning supernova
gaaaah i love this so much
Thanks Jonah Jonathan!
3:02 Bassplayer: "let´s walk this shit!" 3:10 "Hey guys, what are you up to?!"
killin!!
wooooooohhhhhhh
Wow
balsam for the ears, top
That break at 10:50 !!!
great timing to the person who opened a can at 0:30
Am I hearing a lot of A Night in Tunisia?
Softly as in a morning sunrise huh...
so swingin!
crazy man ！
They vamp in the beginning and the end, but from 2:22 onward it's just the regular form, 4/4 AABA
Pretencious! Bad.Less,less.(The song is so beautiful).
gosh people ! do you know why is billies bounce by ari hoenig from smalls not available anymore? I wanted to listen to it after long time and I cannot find it! :((((
Filip Wolski for some reason RUclips removed it. Might have been a copyright error. I talked with Ari and he is going to repost it on his channel. Thanks for your patience.
7:28 jean michel pilc solo
Ari reminds me of Jon Grudden. The Chucky expressions are great./
Cool Men !!!
Que rico!
4:08 Now's the time
Tivon's first line tho . so twisted, I love it
nice piece of tape man. those cats can play.
кайф !!!
canon mark d2 i suppose? :)
Taking a leaf out of Jeff Hamilton's book - Now's The Time quote at 4:09
10:50 so cheeky lmao
so who is in the band? Besides Ari and Tivon.
Is this the 125St. Smalls?
This is very impressive yet I remember Art Blakey saying "Soloing and playing music is about telling a story".
And they told an incredible story
The buildup to 6:10..... unbelievable.
JMP is really out of space
Man.
The bartender's cleaning up at first then way digs the thing at around like 7 minutes.
10:40 - 11:00 ... my god.
I agree, completely insane x)
Db Lyn +
22 people that dont know how to listen music.
Mmjgh
No vibration for Pilc's playing . I much prefer Eden Ladin on that fabulous version of Billie's bounce ( Hoenig 5tet Live at Smalls too)
does anybody know what the fuck happened to the form?
LOL
exactly... pure chaos at the expense of trying to "reach" for what is not there...
Where is the discipline to play "inside" these days.... Its way easier to play "out" and have no fulcrum of tonal centre as opposed to playing like Pops or Prez...Im totally lost in this performance... and it wouldn't surprise me if the players were also....
I don't hear anyone lost at any moment of this performance honestly, I hear every single player acutely aware of each other and their respective functions in the moment. Like you say, a lesser musician would probably have gotten lost but these guys are most definitely not.
....have any of you listened to Live at the plugged nickel??? Second great quintet? You know Tony's whole schtick on that gig was that they were "getting lost on purpose" and intentionally abandoning and returning to the form?or Circle with Anthony Braxton Chick Corea and Dave Holland? Ari's band even still does a head in and head out, which these days innovators like John Hollenbeck are questioning. Jazz is not a music that should stagnate by having musicians be slaves to form, and these musicians clearly still revere and respect the tradition.
Oh man, I don't know. I'm just not a believer. I've watched dozens of Hoenig vids on the recommendation of friends, and I just don't feel it. Maybe if I heard Mr. Hoenig live, maybe if I were there, I'd dig it more. But this just leaves me cold. It's a lot of technique with absolutely no musical center at all. They all sound like they're reaching for something profound but not getting there. In other words, it sounds like really well executed bullshit. Worse, it's all stuff we've heard before and done much better by Coltrane, Tristano, Monk, Haynes, etc, etc, etc. Someone earlier mentioned "conservatory trained", and that's what I think the issue is for me. NONE of these guys have any identity whatsoever. Or interesting ideas. Or the ability to interact with each other in any meaningful way.
Anyway, not a fan.
Maybe you should not be such a prick, that would really help. They are having fun and it is amazing live. Communication is the key and if you say that you have heard this before, I would recommend you ear examination. This is not the bop you've heard from "Coltrane, Tristano, Monk, Haynes".
It would be perfectly enough if you admitted that you do not like it, or don't understand it. But hell no, you must be a smartass and insult. Only bullshit I smell around here is your useless comment. Grab your ego and hand in hand go away, nobody is forcing you to like it or even listen to it. ;o)
Jean Michel is self taught, he never even went to conservatory. These people are transcribed for their originality all the time. The transitions in the tune are so tight and everyone is clearly listening to each other intensely and constantly. It sounds like your not a musician so maybe you don't know how difficult it is to keep your concentration that focused for a 15 minute tune. I don't know why you're comparing these people to Trane or Monk or Roy, this isn't bebop, and jazz doesn't have to bebop.
The last 3 sentences you ssid could not be more wrong 💁♂️💁♂️💁♂️
The lack of awareness of the OP is stunning in it's obliviousness.