JF Automotive - Project Abarth EP2 - *DYNO TESTED: BMC, FORGE & RAMAIR* Will the parts make power?
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- So, we tuned our Abarth. A bit of a first for us, as we've managed to do it without even removing the ECU this time!
We've then set about testing the most used intake mods I've seen mentioned on the forums. The big one seems to be that an intake hose, and BMC panel filter is every bit as good as an induction kit...so we've tested them all, on the same car, on the same day, same fuel with some surprising results!
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Why not test the elbow with paper filter? Since the BMC filter took like 4hp and the elbow added it back. Would be nice to see if the math would add up 😉
The elbow it is good to change with ramair airfilter? Or the stock is equally good? in that position does it not draw in hot air from the engine compartment? Thanks
The ramair induction kit was tested with the engine hood open. If it was closed, i assume the heat from the engine bay would compromise the power gains?
We have tested both open and closed and can confirm the gains are the same with the same dyno room temperature.
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Great rest! I just bought the Forge Intake elbow and the BMC OTA kit in Australia. Do you have any install videos or instructions I could use by any chance? First time modder here haha
Unfortunately we don't have a video, however if we have one come in soon we'll be sure to show you!
Add a Garret gt 1446 you will get around 190 hp on stage 1....for more than 220 hp TD04 needed....great test, thanks
Thanks for the video, very clear.
Has that car been fitted with cat back exhaust and a fmic already?
It's one thing with the hood open, that last filter will just suck a bunch of hot air when driving for real. You should try to fit a BMC Induction Kit instead.
We have tested both open and closed and can confirm the gains are the same with the same dyno room temperature. The Forge Motorsport Intake is our next recommendation for anyone concerned with intake Temps.
@@jfautomotive5904 ok! That's good in that case. I've seen other results, but I have to trust you! 👍🏻
Doing tests with different temps is a good way not to do it. 20F lower intake temps on stock filter then BMC and you wonder why stock was better 🤔
And close the hood when using an open airfilter and you will not gain anything
I agree dude , heat soak is a bhp theif. But I would say the bmc will better than paper in the right conditions but I do prefer k and n panel filter over bmc
I'm not sure that a test with the hood open is consistent. Test with the hood closed and the suction of hot air and we talk about it again.
I was at a dyno day just over a year ago with some Abarths. There was two Abarths there with pretty much identical mods, one of which was mine. The only difference was mine had the forge elbow and stock air box (with bmc) the other had the stock elbow and the ramair induction kit. My car made 161bhp/264nm the other made 166bhp/272nm.
Bearing in mind that on they dyno the cars are ran with the bonnet open allowing most heat to escape. Once shut those open ended induction kits are sat at the top of the engine bay able to heat soak whereas the airbox has a slight cold air feed from the headlight as well as an enclosed filter. So surely the open filter induction kit will have no benefit once the bonnet is closed and is allowed to heat soak?
Also recently I spoke to another dyno tester and they said when the bonnet is shut on these cars with the open filter they suffer a 5% power loss due to heat soak.
Obviously I'm no expert in any of this just wanted to share my experience and thoughts.
Heat soaking on a ram air kit is a real issue also on MITO QV.....I agree with you by first hand experience.
You're absolutely right about the ramair induction kit as the "sponge" itself is vulnerable and the location it is fitted at with the hood closed will definitely heat soak. However the Forge induction kit is a completely different story hence the price difference. Reason being the Forge filter is covered by hard plastic and it feeds cold air from right on the top (under windscreen) as it has a tube with cutting instructions included in the package so it has a direct cold intake from all the way outside of the car. Only that justifies the price difference in my opinion.
I doubt any induction kit would perform worse than the stock airbox.Once the car is on the move there is a constant airflow as well...so im not convinced that the kits would be soaking heat..at least not more than the oem kit
Interesting tests. Wondering what an induction kit on the 124 Spider would deliver...
We have actually tested an Induction kit on the 124 and unfortunately the result were a gain of around 1-2BHP. Not quite the same great gains that the 595 can achieve!
JF Automotive Ltd with a remap tho?
Yup - The OE airbox on the 124 is brilliant, the 500/595/695 item is junk.
Did you test the efficiency of Abarth Punto airbox with these mods ?
Isn't there a cai option?
I have new 595 stok its 145 just put kn air filter on will this gv any more bhp
Hey Ace - sadly no, it doesn't look like it. From our testing the panel filters were completely useless and made no power at all, really you'll need an induction kit to make any extra power!
@@JfautomotiveCoUkots the best induction kitt cheers don't want to remap it as its brand new how much will the induction kitt gv in bhp
Honestly, there's nothing to worry about with remapping a new car. We do it all the time, gotta remember that the 135-160 bhp engines are all identical and just have different levels of tune from the factory. Bottom ends are good for 260bhp/375Nm.
Have a word with the guys from Abarth South East on Facebook about it - best kit outright is the Forge Kit, but it's very noisy so not for everyone and costs a lot. The Ramair kit comes in cheapest and makes pretty much the same power so we tend to sell mostly those. BHP gains from the intake kit are also covered in our other video on testing the Ramair kit on a 180 Comp.
how come your stok is 143 mine is 145 stok
It's a 145BHP model but every engine is different, so you'll always see a bit of variation...some a few horsepower more, some a few less. On the day it ran 143 stock, but it's only got 800 miles on it so the motors probably quite tight still. It's very very rare for a car to run exactly the manufacturers quoted power, however most Abarths are pretty good - +/-5BHP either way usually on a correctly calibrated dyno.
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+ 30 HP with only intake?I don't believe....sorry
+ Stage 1? The Software is changed