Fun Fact: WWF had a wrestler named Gangrel. Which the wrestler can still use the name due to the fact WWF never owned the name. So the wrestles pays Whitewolf to use the name and the wrestler who uses is a really nice dude. He had played V:tm as well.
That's a bit odd, since gangrel is a word used to describe a wandering beggar, vagabond or a vagrant, just like how Toreador is a bullfighter of sorts and Brujah means witch in spanish!
Also fun fact and also sad in a way , Gangrel iconic walk to the stage is actually due to injury he had prior his debut due to accident where his leg got caught in the raising platform when he appears prior to the match
i like how the gangrel Xavier just showed up in front of the Inner Circle, said one sentence and left like a fucking BOSS, and pretty much most of the gangrels were like "yep, he's got a good point" and left too XD
The best clan! I've always felt like Gangrel are nearly the perfect Vampire archetype for my preferences, very traditional yet simultaneously unique. Great job as always man!
My favorite clan. The lore behind them is amazing, and Protean is such a cool discipline. Even their clan curse is interesting. As for their combat abilities, I remember reading in the first book of the Clan Novel Saga ("The Fall of Atlanta") that even the highly organized Sabbat army filled with battle-hardened Lasombra commanders (not to mention Tzimisce war ghouls and Sascha Vykos herself) that took down the entire Atlanta Camarilla was worried about how many Gangrel would be around because, given the circumstances, they could be even more dangerous than a pissed off Brujah.
To feel the call of the wild, to run under stars and clouds, to speak with our allies in the animal world and learn their stories; to take pleasure in the hunt and taste the blood of our vanquished prey…. That is what it is to be of Clan Gangrel. You have told our story well, friend Primogen and I thank you for that. The other clans underestimate us at their peril…..
Gangrel have one foot in the world of werewolves, not so much cause they can run with the wolves or share the same countryside with the Garou. It is cause the Gangrel have to fight or run for their lives from the Wrym tainted monsters found roaming outside the cities' limits which the Garou are in a state of consent war with. . Then Changeling the Lost came out and added a whole new level of problems to deal with.
Once again I have to applaud your style of narration and the general feel of this series. How could I have forgotten that Gangrel is my favorite clan? Thank you for reminding me.
The Vampires " D&D Ranger " clan,i love the Gangrel concept and they are THE ones to guide the pack outside the concret jungle. My Gangrel was a soldier specialliced in forest fighting and survival
my first character for vampire the masquerade V5 was a gangrel his name was Carlos Armando. it was for a oneshot and I'm still waiting for a new session because it ended on a cliffhanger.
I laughed at the bit where he said he didn't like poetry. Gangrel have a thing for stories under campfires. I can imagine them swearing down there not poets or singers but I'd have my doubts I'd belief them.
Love these guys. Always empathized with that lifestyle of "apart of but not belonging to." definitely want to give this clan a go if i ever play any of the world of darkness editions.
Pack of gangrel living in the forest, making multiple stealth, athletic, and brawling rolls for hunting. Out of eyesight but within huffing, puffing, and barking distance. Living mostly off of field mice and checking the deer herds. And using the Werewolf books to fight against Wrym tainted monsters. Then you have to deal with the werewolves.
@@krispalermo8133 Oh, that was just a quote from the first bloodline games, if you did the quiz and one of your last options was a Gangrel. Gangrel are probably better off on the edges of cities that the actual boonies, though.
@@Syurtpiutha Cool information about the game. As for the .. boonies .. kindred don't have to worry about making Stamina checks when running like mortals do. So a ten hour all out run will not be too much of a problem, which they could cover 150 to 200 miles worth of road. Cross country woodland or farm fields would reduce travel distance by half. Then factor distance if they can turn into a wolf or bat. So in that regards the boonies is only a night or two run. Base on a kindred's age and generation/ blood potence they don't have a feeding restriction. So they can avoid humans if wanted. And my last game shop ran some real silly Gangrel games like it was a Disney animal movie cartoon. House rule was when a gangrel can turn into an animal with Path of the Beast 6, they start having a hard time of Wanting to stay in human form. Like a dog visiting someone else's house, they just have to be in wolf form and lay in the center of a doorway on their back like a dog. Since gangrel can turn into other animals beside bat & wolf, they will do a fly-by crap drop on someone's head. Then you have those who will turn into a grizzly bear and eat a few stray street dogs, mist travel into some rival apartment and leave a Gift.
I feel like a biker gang of vampires would obviously be brujah but maybe a gangrel biker gang would be thematically appropriate because of their nomadic nature.
From the bottom of my heart, I extend great respect for your work. I've just begun to research deeper into what WoD has to offer, after getting into it through V:tM. I am writing a V:tM fanfiction for my first go at NaNoWriMo and I plan to convert the story into a chronicle for my first ST experience, and my main character for the fanfic is Gangrel. Could not have asked for better timing!
OWoD gangrel clan books, gangrel with Humanity or Path of the Beast : 7 have no Wrym taint werewolf Garou can detect and the New Moon tricksters of the werewolf tribes will from time to time trade stories with the Gangrel. And since the gangrel live/ travel in the forest of garou battle the wrym taint monsters and humans in. Gangrel earn dots in Wrym Lore and even can gain honor & renown within given werewolf circles. Just added level of story development. Then Changeling the Lost came out covering how people, vampires, mages, and werewolves can get trap in the Hedge and how they can get back out being a very change being. Country gangrel have an interesting unlife to live.
I noticed that out of all the clans, the Tzimisce were not noted for how they feel toward the gangrel, and visa-versa, kinda odd.. Considering the avatar of the teller had a t-shirt that was of that clan.
@@GarmrsBarking OWoD had lupus breed born compare to human born werewolves. Roll 1d10 for the number of pups a husky, shepherd, street mut has, then roll 1d10 for each pup to see if it changes into Garou after two to three years. 10.) full werewolf. 9.) Teenwolf movie werewolf. Circus bearded woman. Dire wolf size. 8.) Scooby Doo, can cast magic gifts. 7.) K-9 unit trained, or seeing eye dog with anger issues. 6.-2.) stander dog. 1.) still born. a.) Your werewolf character has a bad hip cause he was hit by a hit when he was about a year old. b.) You were neutered, so your character really does lack balls. c.) Seeing eye dog for an elderly woman. So you don't get out much. Bone Gnawers should have the highest number of werewolves. At best trailer park puppy farms. Glass walkers would keep show dog level security german shepherds/ huskies cross breed with full wolves. My last game shop loved running country gangrel that are bone gnawer trailer park human kinfolk.
@@krispalermo8133 where is that from ... 2nd ed Bone Gnawers Tribe Book? I dont remember reading it anywhere and did not get my hands on the 2nd ... but I can of course have forgotten it ... it is 15-20 years ago after all ...
i have always heard that the gangrel were werewolves outcast from the others and twisted by the worm into vampires. this has always turned me aginst them as i didn't like the idea of playing a diet were wolf. however this video has changed my mind on a lot of things about them and how they act and respond to things. if i ever find a group i might play one
sharkmob needs to add these guys to bloodhunt as i would fuckin love becoming a wolf or getting to fight with badass claws with maybe even a passive that lets you dash forward with those claws!!!
Hand claws, foot claws, and maul bite. equals 3 blood points to activate. Then deal with a wolf biting down on your knee at 40 mph. Add Celerity onto that and you have some kinetic impact force. In the old game setting there was a story of a Brajah with one dot in Celerity reaching 40mph and could not reach a car driving off in time. The Gangrel turn into a wolf and hit speeds of 80mph, bite out the car tire, had the car roll over the top of the wolf and the gangrel was not slowing down. 5 dots of Fortitude made you harder than nails.
Favorite clan lol, also Smiling Jack might be my favorite lore character but Beckett is also a bad*ss and my second favorite, nice to have someone like him representing lol
If you haven't already you should make this kinda video for my favourite clan, the TRUR brujah, not many people know about them and there temporis discipline is by far the coolest in my opinion
This might be a strange request but your narration is so captivating, I would love to hear you in a video of lore that you've created yourself? Maybe like an NPC that could be thrown into a game, or expansion on some ambiguous bits of the mythos.
I am The All And I will Return To the All. Great Video Mr.Primogenitor. Much Love 2u. Keep on the Learning of the young and bald, but Remember. Wisdom Is served cold, but the true flame is always on the way in.
Holy shit this video was astonishingly well written, i mean fuck me I knew you had excellent way with words since your changelling videos but this one was just, out of this world. I hope you do more of these, for each clan hopefully
I wonder if a Gangrel could stay in Bat form? Probably easier to stay out of the sun. Also i'm imagining Fortitude effecting beast modes...like, a tiny Bat that causes weapons to break when they hit it.
As a bat using Celerity, Potence, Fortitude, and dive bomb someone's head on a motorcycle traveling at highway speeds. In one game a player started off as a falcon dive bombing at near 200mph and turning into a grizzly bear just before impact, following with Mist Form to flee from the scene. Staying in animal form during the day just cost one blood point. Most country gangrel take the merit: eat food, which only cost one blood point to pass food through the system. In animal form wolves and coyotes will live off of field mice, rats, and other small game. In VtM they give a listing on the amount of blood points you get from different size humans and animals, even covering rats.
Do you have any plans to make a video about the Salubri in the future? Ive been addicted to watching WoD lore videos for a while now after my introduction through Vampire: The Parenting and you’re lore videos has done a lot to pull me in. Thanks a lot and can’t wait to watch more!
I find it hard to imagine plot hooks for anarchist vampires, even more the gangrel. They live outside of politics and cities, and yet manage to feed and not be bothered by lupines ? Why would anyone bother staying in the camarilla when there's that lifestyle ?
Werewolves have their own monstrous threats to deal with. In the old clan books it covers that the gangrel spend a good amount of time just running for their lives from the Wrym tainted creatures and other werewolves wanting to kill them cause of their own blood drinking wrym taint. Sleeping in the middle of rivers and lakes is the only safe means until the gangrel can merge into stone. Most kindred are still human enough where they want apartments and houses to live in. Gangrel own only what they can carry, not saying that the gangrel don't have safe house for prize items but they travel light. Another note in this game setting, vampires can freeze solid from being out in the cold. So the choices for a country gangrel are go into cities for the winter and socialize or sleep winter off at the bottom of a lake or river. City gangrel hold down apartments or they live with the bums in the cities' Maintenace tunnels feeding off of rats and stray cats. Once they can change into wolves or cats they play a game of racing traffic. Whoever is last to get ran over by a moving truck win.
Seconded. I Like OWoD, but I got into the game with NWoD and lament the lack of interest it generates. It was a different style of game, but a lot of it appealed to me more.
@@Syurtpiutha Honestly I and my players prefer Requiem 2e to Masquerade now. There's just so much more you can do and the vampires are actually terrifying.
@@LordReginaldMeowmont I feel the covenant/clan distinction adds a lot more versatility as well. Sometimes VtM feels less like horror and more like blood-powered superheroes, with clan being your entire identity. Which is fine, just not usually what I'm looking for.
OWoD gangrel run shoulders with werewolves so much they had Wrym Lore and spirit gifts. Then Changeling the Lost come out. Also to mention since people born in the mid to late 1970's and grew up into the 90's were impacted with martial arts, we used Kindred of the East disciplines of Equilibrium which is used to talk to spirits, and the disciplines of Yang and Yin. Once the PC gain one dot of Yang and Yin and balance themselves into it they gain access to Equilibrium.
Yes, they are, but it would be unwise to tell that in their face if you value your butt to remain a "wildly extreme boot impact" free zone, best case scenario.
If I had to play VTM I'd roll gangrel. But comeing from WTA that makes sense. But what are these claims they could wrangle a "lupine" Garou are pretty ridiculously OP in the WOD. Unless you are a pretty freaky old powerful vamp you probably don't want to come across a werewolf an any way shape or form. It's far from evenly matched. I think the best strategy for vamps is to stay as undetected as possible by Gia's warriors and it would make sense that gangrel due to their proclivity outside the city's and roaming that they would be the most likely to venture into territory that would be highly hostile to vampire's so they may have strategy of detecting and avoiding them. Makeing them an asset for other vampires that find themselves outside of home turf. But wrangle them 😆. 10 foot tall wrecking machines, that never tire, shrug off conventional damage without breaking a sweat. Rage makes them even more devastating and unstoppable and on top of that they can navigate the spirit world and use natural magic. Even if vampires where something they should fear they still wouldn't due to their purpose. Garou do not fear vampires maybe in certain circumstances they should. Vamps can be crafty. But vampires most certainly should and do fear Garou.
Fun Fact: WWF had a wrestler named Gangrel. Which the wrestler can still use the name due to the fact WWF never owned the name. So the wrestles pays Whitewolf to use the name and the wrestler who uses is a really nice dude. He had played V:tm as well.
That’s (shamelessly) how I found vtm!
He was also the guy that gave Edge and Christian their start. $10,000 fangs
That's a bit odd, since gangrel is a word used to describe a wandering beggar, vagabond or a vagrant, just like how Toreador is a bullfighter of sorts and Brujah means witch in spanish!
@@CharlesRaines4946 Not really odd, it's also a name for Odin has many connotations.
Also fun fact and also sad in a way , Gangrel iconic walk to the stage is actually due to injury he had prior his debut due to accident where his leg got caught in the raising platform when he appears prior to the match
i like how the gangrel Xavier just showed up in front of the Inner Circle, said one sentence and left like a fucking BOSS, and pretty much most of the gangrels were like "yep, he's got a good point" and left too XD
Xavier:
Approaches the Inner Circle
Tells them to fuck themselves
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves
@@Osric24 based
I've been playing my same Gangrel since '95! My favorite clan by far!!!
Id like to see that character sheet.
The best clan! I've always felt like Gangrel are nearly the perfect Vampire archetype for my preferences, very traditional yet simultaneously unique. Great job as always man!
My favorite clan. The lore behind them is amazing, and Protean is such a cool discipline. Even their clan curse is interesting. As for their combat abilities, I remember reading in the first book of the Clan Novel Saga ("The Fall of Atlanta") that even the highly organized Sabbat army filled with battle-hardened Lasombra commanders (not to mention Tzimisce war ghouls and Sascha Vykos herself) that took down the entire Atlanta Camarilla was worried about how many Gangrel would be around because, given the circumstances, they could be even more dangerous than a pissed off Brujah.
I prefer Brujah but the Gangrel are tempting.
The Clan Curse, the lore, and Protean are the 3 reasons why the Gangrel is one of my most favorite clans.
To feel the call of the wild, to run under stars and clouds, to speak with our allies in the animal world and learn their stories; to take pleasure in the hunt and taste the blood of our vanquished prey…. That is what it is to be of Clan Gangrel.
You have told our story well, friend Primogen and I thank you for that.
The other clans underestimate us at their peril…..
Gangrel have one foot in the world of werewolves, not so much cause they can run with the wolves or share the same countryside with the Garou.
It is cause the Gangrel have to fight or run for their lives from the Wrym tainted monsters found roaming outside the cities' limits which the Garou are in a state of consent war with. .
Then Changeling the Lost came out and added a whole new level of problems to deal with.
Hail to us, the wanderers, the nomads, the outlanders, the Clan of the Beast.
Once again I have to applaud your style of narration and the general feel of this series. How could I have forgotten that Gangrel is my favorite clan? Thank you for reminding me.
The Vampires " D&D Ranger " clan,i love the Gangrel concept and they are THE ones to guide the pack outside the concret jungle.
My Gangrel was a soldier specialliced in forest fighting and survival
my first character for vampire the masquerade V5 was a gangrel his name was Carlos Armando. it was for a oneshot and I'm still waiting for a new session because it ended on a cliffhanger.
I approve of this name
The clan that really shows how old you are. Long lives mean more chances to tap into your curse. All old Gangrels have permanent animal features.
I laughed at the bit where he said he didn't like poetry. Gangrel have a thing for stories under campfires. I can imagine them swearing down there not poets or singers but I'd have my doubts I'd belief them.
I had no idea the Gangrel had anything to do with Lilith. An awesome piece of lore.
Love these guys. Always empathized with that lifestyle of "apart of but not belonging to." definitely want to give this clan a go if i ever play any of the world of darkness editions.
"I live alone, I don't need any others. Just me, my dog, and to Hell with the rest."
Pack of gangrel living in the forest, making multiple stealth, athletic, and brawling rolls for hunting. Out of eyesight but within huffing, puffing, and barking distance. Living mostly off of field mice and checking the deer herds. And using the Werewolf books to fight against Wrym tainted monsters. Then you have to deal with the werewolves.
@@krispalermo8133 Oh, that was just a quote from the first bloodline games, if you did the quiz and one of your last options was a Gangrel.
Gangrel are probably better off on the edges of cities that the actual boonies, though.
@@Syurtpiutha Cool information about the game.
As for the .. boonies .. kindred don't have to worry about making Stamina checks when running like mortals do. So a ten hour all out run will not be too much of a problem, which they could cover 150 to 200 miles worth of road. Cross country woodland or farm fields would reduce travel distance by half.
Then factor distance if they can turn into a wolf or bat. So in that regards the boonies is only a night or two run. Base on a kindred's age and generation/ blood potence they don't have a feeding restriction. So they can avoid humans if wanted. And my last game shop ran some real silly Gangrel games like it was a Disney animal movie cartoon.
House rule was when a gangrel can turn into an animal with Path of the Beast 6, they start having a hard time of Wanting to stay in human form. Like a dog visiting someone else's house, they just have to be in wolf form and lay in the center of a doorway on their back like a dog.
Since gangrel can turn into other animals beside bat & wolf, they will do a fly-by crap drop on someone's head. Then you have those who will turn into a grizzly bear and eat a few stray street dogs, mist travel into some rival apartment and leave a Gift.
@@krispalermo8133 As long as the airdrop-gift gangrel aim primarily at Ventrue they have my blessing. :P
I feel like a biker gang of vampires would obviously be brujah but maybe a gangrel biker gang would be thematically appropriate because of their nomadic nature.
From the bottom of my heart, I extend great respect for your work. I've just begun to research deeper into what WoD has to offer, after getting into it through V:tM. I am writing a V:tM fanfiction for my first go at NaNoWriMo and I plan to convert the story into a chronicle for my first ST experience, and my main character for the fanfic is Gangrel. Could not have asked for better timing!
Where can we read your work?
Where can we read your work?
As a Lover of the Gangrel Clan and Ideals. This was perfect. Also seeing my name on there, gave me chills. Tussen Takk.
OWoD gangrel clan books, gangrel with Humanity or Path of the Beast : 7 have no Wrym taint werewolf Garou can detect and the New Moon tricksters of the werewolf tribes will from time to time trade stories with the Gangrel. And since the gangrel live/ travel in the forest of garou battle the wrym taint monsters and humans in. Gangrel earn dots in Wrym Lore and even can gain honor & renown within given werewolf circles. Just added level of story development. Then Changeling the Lost came out covering how people, vampires, mages, and werewolves can get trap in the Hedge and how they can get back out being a very change being.
Country gangrel have an interesting unlife to live.
Thank you for the video! It was very enjoyable and full of detail.
I noticed that out of all the clans, the Tzimisce were not noted for how they feel toward the gangrel, and visa-versa, kinda odd.. Considering the avatar of the teller had a t-shirt that was of that clan.
Hobo gang let’s go
Excuse me, that's the blood sucking murder hobo gang to you.
@@GrashUriza yer damn right
The hobo gang would be the bone gnawers 😉
@@GarmrsBarking OWoD had lupus breed born compare to human born werewolves.
Roll 1d10 for the number of pups a husky, shepherd, street mut has, then roll 1d10 for each pup to see if it changes into Garou after two to three years.
10.) full werewolf.
9.) Teenwolf movie werewolf. Circus bearded woman. Dire wolf size.
8.) Scooby Doo, can cast magic gifts.
7.) K-9 unit trained, or seeing eye dog with anger issues.
6.-2.) stander dog.
1.) still born.
a.) Your werewolf character has a bad hip cause he was hit by a hit when he was about a year old.
b.) You were neutered, so your character really does lack balls.
c.) Seeing eye dog for an elderly woman. So you don't get out much.
Bone Gnawers should have the highest number of werewolves. At best trailer park puppy farms.
Glass walkers would keep show dog level security german shepherds/ huskies cross breed with full wolves.
My last game shop loved running country gangrel that are bone gnawer trailer park human kinfolk.
@@krispalermo8133 where is that from ... 2nd ed Bone Gnawers Tribe Book?
I dont remember reading it anywhere and did not get my hands on the 2nd ... but I can of course have forgotten it ... it is 15-20 years ago after all ...
i have always heard that the gangrel were werewolves outcast from the others and twisted by the worm into vampires. this has always turned me aginst them as i didn't like the idea of playing a diet were wolf. however this video has changed my mind on a lot of things about them and how they act and respond to things. if i ever find a group i might play one
One of my most favorite clans
I loved the gangrel character from night road. Lampago had a truly horrifying visage!
sharkmob needs to add these guys to bloodhunt as i would fuckin love becoming a wolf or getting to fight with badass claws with maybe even a passive that lets you dash forward with those claws!!!
Hand claws, foot claws, and maul bite. equals 3 blood points to activate.
Then deal with a wolf biting down on your knee at 40 mph. Add Celerity onto that and you have some kinetic impact force.
In the old game setting there was a story of a Brajah with one dot in Celerity reaching 40mph and could not reach a car driving off in time. The Gangrel turn into a wolf and hit speeds of 80mph, bite out the car tire, had the car roll over the top of the wolf and the gangrel was not slowing down. 5 dots of Fortitude made you harder than nails.
Favorite clan lol, also Smiling Jack might be my favorite lore character but Beckett is also a bad*ss and my second favorite, nice to have someone like him representing lol
If you haven't already you should make this kinda video for my favourite clan, the TRUR brujah, not many people know about them and there temporis discipline is by far the coolest in my opinion
This might be a strange request but your narration is so captivating, I would love to hear you in a video of lore that you've created yourself? Maybe like an NPC that could be thrown into a game, or expansion on some ambiguous bits of the mythos.
Ha ha recognized the music from the first Vampire video game!
The Sigma Vampire, Rarest of all Vampire types…
My 3th favourite clan.._
I am The All And I will Return To the All. Great Video Mr.Primogenitor. Much Love 2u. Keep on the Learning of the young and bald, but Remember. Wisdom Is served cold, but the true flame is always on the way in.
Holy shit this video was astonishingly well written, i mean fuck me I knew you had excellent way with words since your changelling videos but this one was just, out of this world. I hope you do more of these, for each clan hopefully
I wonder if a Gangrel could stay in Bat form?
Probably easier to stay out of the sun.
Also i'm imagining Fortitude effecting beast modes...like, a tiny Bat that causes weapons to break when they hit it.
As a bat using Celerity, Potence, Fortitude, and dive bomb someone's head on a motorcycle traveling at highway speeds.
In one game a player started off as a falcon dive bombing at near 200mph and turning into a grizzly bear just before impact, following with Mist Form to flee from the scene.
Staying in animal form during the day just cost one blood point.
Most country gangrel take the merit: eat food, which only cost one blood point to pass food through the system. In animal form wolves and coyotes will live off of field mice, rats, and other small game. In VtM they give a listing on the amount of blood points you get from different size humans and animals, even covering rats.
Do you have any plans to make a video about the Salubri in the future? Ive been addicted to watching WoD lore videos for a while now after my introduction through Vampire: The Parenting and you’re lore videos has done a lot to pull me in. Thanks a lot and can’t wait to watch more!
Gangrel are by far my favorite clan, even if they are kinda furry bait.
Gangrel. For when you want to play Werewolf but all your friends want to play Vampire.
I find it hard to imagine plot hooks for anarchist vampires, even more the gangrel. They live outside of politics and cities, and yet manage to feed and not be bothered by lupines ? Why would anyone bother staying in the camarilla when there's that lifestyle ?
Werewolves have their own monstrous threats to deal with. In the old clan books it covers that the gangrel spend a good amount of time just running for their lives from the Wrym tainted creatures and other werewolves wanting to kill them cause of their own blood drinking wrym taint. Sleeping in the middle of rivers and lakes is the only safe means until the gangrel can merge into stone.
Most kindred are still human enough where they want apartments and houses to live in. Gangrel own only what they can carry, not saying that the gangrel don't have safe house for prize items but they travel light. Another note in this game setting, vampires can freeze solid from being out in the cold. So the choices for a country gangrel are go into cities for the winter and socialize or sleep winter off at the bottom of a lake or river.
City gangrel hold down apartments or they live with the bums in the cities' Maintenace tunnels feeding off of rats and stray cats. Once they can change into wolves or cats they play a game of racing traffic. Whoever is last to get ran over by a moving truck win.
how to play a gangrel it is simple unlock your inner furry
Awesome job. Can you do videos on the Requiem clans and Covenants?
Seconded. I Like OWoD, but I got into the game with NWoD and lament the lack of interest it generates. It was a different style of game, but a lot of it appealed to me more.
@@Syurtpiutha Honestly I and my players prefer Requiem 2e to Masquerade now. There's just so much more you can do and the vampires are actually terrifying.
@@LordReginaldMeowmont I feel the covenant/clan distinction adds a lot more versatility as well. Sometimes VtM feels less like horror and more like blood-powered superheroes, with clan being your entire identity.
Which is fine, just not usually what I'm looking for.
@@Syurtpiutha exactly. It tends to lose the personal horror aspect, whereas VtR 2e has it baked into the mechanics.
Clan Malkavian next?
Gangrel haven't made a religion out of it?
Does the Cult of Veles count?
OWoD gangrel run shoulders with werewolves so much they had Wrym Lore and spirit gifts.
Then Changeling the Lost come out.
Also to mention since people born in the mid to late 1970's and grew up into the 90's were impacted with martial arts, we used Kindred of the East disciplines of Equilibrium which is used to talk to spirits, and the disciplines of Yang and Yin. Once the PC gain one dot of Yang and Yin and balance themselves into it they gain access to Equilibrium.
Ty
Give us Tzimisce and Ministry please
„Brujah and Gangrel are hobos and furries respectively“
Yes, they are, but it would be unwise to tell that in their face if you value your butt to remain a "wildly extreme boot impact" free zone, best case scenario.
Best Clan
Werewolves and Gangrels ! Best races in the World of Darkness !
If I had to play VTM I'd roll gangrel. But comeing from WTA that makes sense. But what are these claims they could wrangle a "lupine" Garou are pretty ridiculously OP in the WOD. Unless you are a pretty freaky old powerful vamp you probably don't want to come across a werewolf an any way shape or form. It's far from evenly matched. I think the best strategy for vamps is to stay as undetected as possible by Gia's warriors and it would make sense that gangrel due to their proclivity outside the city's and roaming that they would be the most likely to venture into territory that would be highly hostile to vampire's so they may have strategy of detecting and avoiding them. Makeing them an asset for other vampires that find themselves outside of home turf. But wrangle them 😆. 10 foot tall wrecking machines, that never tire, shrug off conventional damage without breaking a sweat. Rage makes them even more devastating and unstoppable and on top of that they can navigate the spirit world and use natural magic. Even if vampires where something they should fear they still wouldn't due to their purpose. Garou do not fear vampires maybe in certain circumstances they should. Vamps can be crafty. But vampires most certainly should and do fear Garou.
That’s it?