WoW Cataclysm Guide - Heroic Lost City of the Tol'vir Wipe-a-thon 3000
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
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As promised, here's a Wipe-a-thon 3000 for Siamat. He's not brick-wall hard like some of the bosses we've seen previously, but he does have quite a few unusual tricks up his sleeve that may catch out the unwary. Successful kill will be included in the Heroic Lost City video.
@Razzfazz87 Wailing Winds is not affected by Line of Sight. The boss is entirely immune to interrupts, dispels and spellsteals.
@6priz I was experimenting. I'll explain it in more detail in the full run. There are some arguments that it will scale very nicely with Mastery due to the stacking DoT. My initial findings are it seems viable but it's going to be gear dependent if you're min/maxing. Cast time and Mana cost are identical to Fireball.
@TheGilmer Correct. The revisionists will have you believe that Wrath heroics were hard on release just like some of these. They weren't, they weren't even hard in the beta and I know because I was in that beta too (shoulda done vids but hey, my computer wasn't up to the task back then). With a couple of noteable exceptions (Loken being a prime example) Wrath heroics were facerolls that did not require CC and had no particularly difficult mechanics. A step back from TBC.
I'm actually glad this instance was able to make it into a wipe-a-thon video from the look of the normal mode.
Keep up the awesome work TB! Looking forward for the full run.
@Razzfazz87 True, but there is absolutely no point in that video where mana shield would have made the difference between wipe and no wipe, so it's a non-issue.
@warnick150 It does benefit from flashburn, it's a fire DoT, all fire DoTs benefit from flashburn. Ghostcrawler (or one of the blues) mentioned recently that glyph FFB is a viable DPS option for fire, but it's all based on what stats you happen to have.
@andrefrbk What shield? You mean Mana Shield, the one that costs a ton of mana with a mana intensive spec? Let's not do that. Or are you discussing Mage Ward, the one that only absorbs fire, frost and arcane (not nature?).
So either way, your suggestion isn't a good one.
@bobob239 What is this free time you speak of? Can I buy it?
@iurhviusdfavhi Well WoG requires holy power, which you may not have available, the cone heal won't help if people are being constantly knocked around and you're out of range... The point is that in that phase, hots are much better at covering the group damage and Pallies don't have any reliable HoTs (correct me if I'm wrong Paladins, I don't heal).
This has probably been mentioned, but another potential aspect of the tactics, is positioning WHERE you kill the add mobs. For example, having them near where you can safely LoS (while still able to heal) the aoe, as well as spacing them out from each other, so it takes more time for the boss to actually reach them (or alternatively having them all in one spot so you can get it out of the way if going for a hard DPS race).
I was gonna say how the paladin kept giving you might, but then I remembered they combined wisdom and might in cata. Good thing I didn't make myself look like an ass.
@RerollAndGetADrood I did voice Savage 2 yes.
Thanks for going step by step to show how to do these! I'll be referring back to this when I run this heroic.
The new start up screen is amazing!
@d33jtv With 90% deflection/damage absorb? No. Not a hope.
TB, thank you so much for these vids. They are a thousand times more informative than all the other "professional" vids that sites put out that simply say, "Okay, here you go. See? Easy cakewalk. Thanks for watching." If that were the case everyone would have the kingslayer title by now. Also, group rez ftw! And...I'm not looking forward to tomorrow's patch. I finally nail down my talent tree after all this time and Blizz destroys it. Grrrrrr!
Noticed the bear popping his CD's at the wrong time, or too early, still, the second phase transition is quite the killer for a healer. This fight even sucks on normal, there's not much damage difference between the two :O.
I would like to point out to Fury Warriors, since you would have to pop Death Wish to buff your damage to race go get the Glyph of Death Wish so it doesn't make you take any extra damage. Also probably looking at wanting like a good chunk of Mastery to extend those enrage effects as much as possible and taking both points in Field Dressing to make your Enraged Regen heal you for more and make your healer use less on you anyway.
Glad to see a new video. I was worried you may have given up on youtube. I also noticed you have made frostfire bolt your main nuke over fireball. I guess something has changed to make it better than fireball which sucks as fireball fits fire mages better.
I love seeing Tol'Vir becoming a hard instance, but i'd guess i wait till it get fully uploaded to 720p, but seeing a wipe-a-thon over the normal mode, then im satisfied :)
love the sound of TB in the evening
@TheWalruspro theres a glyph that increses damage done by you Frostfire Bolt by 15% and your Frostfire Bolt now deals 3% additional damage over 12 sec, stacking up to 3 times, but no longer reduces the victim's movement speed, idk if it stacks with flash burn but i think it does so with this glyph its better than fireball
@TotalHalibut. Protect & Ret pallys do not have any HoTs because they are built for Tank/DPS and when they can heal it's for a small amount. Holy is specced for better heal and I think Beacon of Light is as close as you can get to a HoT.
@kanerva2 actually if you would have seen other tb videos you would know that might and wisdom are combined into one buff. That buff icon is the might icon.
@TotalHalibut Perhaps the Paladin could save Holy Radiance for the phase transition. It would be tricky however, because the range of Holy Radiance is only 10 yards. The party would need to stack up temporarily, and spread back out once the transition has completed.
this is a patch 4.0.3? you videos is the best TotalHalibut
The revolving wisps of air under Siamat's floating torso look like sharks,
@Kevashida well i have a shamanhealer myself but curiously enough i didnt think about it.. If he does nature dmg you can resist about 20-30% thanks to totems (did the hunter in this vid have natureres aura on?) and if you get earthliving up on everybody, put down the totem of healing and use your heals right (30% bonus heal after shock, 20% bonusheal on earthshielded) you should be able to keep everybody alive with critheals (30% goes to other person) if you keep riptide on yourself
TB you know when you had the problem of your mirror images targeting Siamat? Try holding Ctrl and pressing 1 if an issue like that ever occurs. It works on all the DK pets even the Gargoyle which has no pet bar, not sure about mirror images though but worth a try. Anyways nice video
@missnewbienoob Not to mention, you're the best game narrator ever. Gaming narration for WoW is very...hm...what's the word. Homogenous. That's it. You add a LOT of flavor and hence hold my interest. I can listen to you talk for hours. Ty!
@woot835 Pretty sure it will. Black Temple is still open even though Illidan is dead.
@SauceNinja Blessing of Might and Blessing of Wisdom are now 1 buff, rather than 2 buffs.
@reklawnehpets
He mentioned that he would be trying to work out a frostfire spec during the video. Perhaps he has, and this is it.
@RsOsteskills You are quite right. I posted this on TB's fire spec video. Ghostcrawler said that it was the intent for fire mages that have decent mastery vaules to use frostfire bolt w/ glyph vs. fireball w/glyph. I'd like to believe that TB read it and said, "Bloody hell, he's right... *change glyph*" ;p
Fuck, I have to see the shamwow commercial everytime I watch your videos, and there's no way to refresh out of them >
@RoyslandMafia BoM actually is a good spell, they combined it with BoW and made it a percent, BoK is the same as before, and they brought back the old mechanic where you could only have one blessing per pally on entire raid/party
@ghosthud1 well if thats the point, and the encounter shown really it >1 month old there is no point in showing it due to it being fixed. BUT, the encounter i witnessed in there did the same things, there was LoS, Clouds, Shield, 2 type Adds, heavy AE transition phase etc.pp. it just wasnt hard, maybe because we had a priest/shaman. ALso it wasnt like a hardcore heroic group but just a random lfg-pug...so im just curious why the struggled so much with the fight
im so happy theres a wipe a thon for this instance.
@Totalhalibut You're right, we no longer have any really effective HoT's. We have one at 83 That's an AoE HoT heal but that doesn't fall under reliable in my opinion.
All these reviews are just very well explained. But I have a little worrisome thought. I have mostly seen Dps Casters, whereas I prefer to play melee Dps. I was wondering how are they affected? Because some of the boss's, like in Stonecore need to be avoided from contact, unless I'm mistaken.
@misternef
The FrostFirebolt Glyph is OP at the moment. 15% more damage and 3% more dot damage stacking 3 times. I'm assuming that's why he switched
@TotalHalibut i think he meant "spare time". in spanish it would be "tiempo libre" (libre = free).
Could you use recount on raid videos and toggle text on party hp bars as I want to know how much health tanks will generally have in Cataclysm :)
Remember people, when insulting it's "you're" not "your" for saying "you are dumb" because saying "your dumb" is talking possessively about their dumb and sounds dumb itself.
And if it's supposed to be possessive then it's just " I-T-S" but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's "I-T-apostrophe-S"
That Mass-ress is pretty awesome, finaly you can be as awesome as tirion fordring!
@totalhalibut ive heard that mages can cast a spell while walking with molten armor or somethign is that true?
@TotalHalibut Yeah, it's at the place where they sell Grears.
@xdopiex i think its the debuff cooldown from the mage ability Time-Warp.
@asusto68 No and yes, it's combined with wisdom in cata so you get both but the icon is from bom
@dappeh thats not completely my point. sure graphically it really hasnt changed. but also not enough has changed gameplay wise to make it worth playing for 5 years. its really the exact same game. they just sucker you into it by giving you mounts and shiny armor. I hear that gear is extremely easy to get now.
@SycronDarkeye Im pretty sure 5-man rading should be called such a thing if that is indeed their intent, so I dont think that will be the case. if anything I have assumptions based on what Blizzard has said that raids might indeed be as hard as 5-man heroics, and heroic raids will be the new "raiding". Just a guess but I have a good feeling about it.
could you keep up a damage meter for your instance videos? curious to see how good/bad everyone is doing
Does he absorb storms from anywhere on the structure roof?(platform/whatever) Or does he have to be in close proximity? If the latter then just dragtank him away from the storms. Storms looked like they travelled roughly the same speed around kill the adds in phase 1 under a storm to get them all 3 in a nice bunch? (ignore this comment if everything is invalid due to my poor understanding of fight mechanics)
I like the fact that he posts failures. It's not all cake and totalbiscuits ladies and gents.
When I first tanked this boss on normal we wiped about 12 times, then I just said "screw it, put up as much nature resistance as possible." After we did that we actually downed him showing that resistances are really useful in these situations.
From my personal xp this boss is a healer test when i did it we had a disc priest and we got him down in about 5 tries i think. Surprising enough for us zerging acually worked we nuked every add we got in p1 (didn't matter what type it was) and in p2 we ignored every thing but the boss.
On a side not the mas res is a god send in 5 man runs atm, love it on my hunter saved a lot of times on wipes.
@bobob239 You have no idea how much time it takes to editing/rendering/voice overing and capturing footage and make it entertaining. I doubt he's more then a few hours for sleep/family as he does have a wife/kid last time I checked.
@bobob239 @bobob239 You have no idea how much time it takes to editing/rendering/voice overing and capturing footage and make it entertaining. I assume he's got only more then a few hours for sleep/family as he does have a wife/kid last time I checked.
@BGSoccerMagic there are only 2 paladin buffs now might and kings, both increase casterstats.
good shit total i know its gotta be crazy doin all these vids but people obviously enjoy them keep up the good work
"Causes huge problems for the healer" seems to be the mantra for Cata. :(
@zurox407
BoM is now a group/raid whide buff that buffs str/agi and mp5
@njdss4 I too shall use TB's wipe-a-thon videos and successful boss beat-down videos when running these dungeons.
Best to learn from the mistakes of others than make mistakes yourself.
@TotalHalibut lol XD!
love the vids, keep em comming :D So pumped to get into these dungeons :D
O_o
It's almost as developed as a Raid fight! I like this boss.
He really stands out as a true boss.
@Zbenesch Might and wisdom are combined now. Catch up.
The amount of times TB has said this, and some people are still saying it...
BoM and BoW are now the same bloody thing!
It just struck me from watching this that I hope they allow more frequent vote kick options for pugging.
@woot835 Well, you can still kill KJ and illidan from BC. So i assume yes but they will make the titles feats of strength like the BC ones so you cant get it once the x-pack comes out
ugh just watching this makes me wanna play so much :D thanks again
@DIchronicaddict rofl, sounds, looks, and is just overall awesome.
When the hunter rezzed you all i was on the verge of jizzing in my pants. As a hunter, feign death almost always prevents me from dying and i'd always joke about rezzing everyone. Now that you can... i just can't fuckin wait for a level 25 guild in cata
How long do the storms last once you kill the add or do they just stay up until absorbed? Wondering if you could slow down the kill of add #2 and #3 to potentially limit the number of clouds he has to absorb if they do dissipate.
Phase 2 is exactly why you get Firestarter and improved scorch.
@TotalHalibut I think it's a good idea, especially after your mage tutorial videos. I know Blizzard change the way a lot of the stats work, and you'd help more than a few people by showing them which stats to look for.
@regularmatt
His dmg reduction shield is up while they attack the boss :)
CMON! You hear him? Yes. What else do you need?
@mouseno4 We all knew the cake was a lie from the getgo. Not so sure 'bout the biscuits. Are they perhaps, crumpets?
Out of curiosity have you had a successful tankadin run? I'm having issues in the PTR and will probably as well on live tomorrow. I'm hoping that someone has figured it out.
So if those pilars lineofsight everything you can use them for the transition? It seams strange for blizzard to put in a boss that makes pally healers bad for this one moment.
also cant you spellsteal disspell anything in this encounter? Normally you would expect that
I thought word of glory, the new cone heal, and shock together give holy pallies amazing healing while moving?
@Schokolof unfortunately it hits the same, and FF bolt glyph is now prime, so it is optimal to take glyph of fireball for crit chance and ignore FFbolt, WHY BLIZZ WHY!??!?!?!?!?!
I wonder if Banish would work against those minions who gradually lose HP.
@Willettes1 Thats the answer! I killed him yesterday. Lineup: Priest(Heal), Rogue, Druid(Tank), Mage, Shadow.
I had an wipeaton the instances before with failgroups. Good healing guy = the win :]
@zurox407 Yes you did. BoM now does give you 10% AP AND (some value i dont know) Manareg
Wow, great advice Totalbiscuit. Now I feel as though I know how to beat this guy.
@mlowum its paladins burstpet or what u want to call it, for holy it heals for u, for ret its dpsing for prot is just dpsing i think?
@tichergeorge because they combined might and wisdom to one buff
Gotta love the Kansas reference
@cleever25 meh, he doesn't really do requests unless that's changed recently?
@RsOsteskills also, this dot maybe affected by cauterize.
@bobob239 check out wowheads cata proflier means u can grab ur charac from the armoury and then add on a few bits of cata gear that they've got the 3D models on your charac
@RsOsteskills And makes it much easier to get the Pyromaniac buff (should count as a fire DoT effect) Specially since fireball lost the DoT for some reason.. (glyph?)
TB, when he enter phase 2 and knocks the party around my first idea was to try to LoS him, and for the few seconds some peope randomlyl fly behind the pillars in your video it seems hi misses the next knockback pulse, not 100% sure since most of you dont stay behind them, if its possible to Los it it would get alot easyer for a healer if the party position thems self good. this might be thing to test.
Yo TB do u thing that deepfire has any use for FFB?Or its better with fireball siance u are using ffb in this vid.The ffb glyph looks sweet, but but is it good?
This is awesome looking instance
Was just lookin over the toons on the screen..Holy CRAP, 63k mana!! I'm melting at the thought of that much mana on my shadow/holy priest!! If y'all haven't looked over the new releases for Cata..I can't wait to start makin' the 24 slot bags..wee more room for this pack rat to carry around! (Just hope it doesn't have a long cool down like my stinkin glacial bags).
There are lot of great in-game guides @ 99WoWguides!
@ZmanzWow i think he is both specs now because here while back he did a vid as frost