Thanks Tom! Got the SR on order, in orange of course 😅. My take is that its a city driving car and if I'm reading this right.. long range with NMC battery means I can only use 80% most the time (approx. 470kms) as the standard is LFP which you use at 100% (approx. 435kms) so the benefit is only minor unless I was to intentionally go on a long trip and knew in advance so I can charge it higher. We have an ICE vehicle for a Caravan, so long trips the G6 is likely to sit it out.
Hey Tom, Thanks for your Vids re: the G6. I've ordered the short range LFP (orange) model and champing at the bit for when the cars arrive in the country. i was initially looking at the MG4 particularly with the discounted pricing but from what I've seen the G6 is worth the extra money for it's tech and finish. a very classy looking vehicle!
Thanks for the video. I'm new to EVs but it seems to me that the extended range's NMC battery should not be charged to 100% very often but to the recommended 80% which would be 456 kilometres. This effectively means that the range would be similar to the standard range model. Can anyone confirm or comment on this? And the LFP battery is safer (I wonder if there are numbers for how much safer the ferrous ones are?). Or could it be that the few times one actually needs 100% range in the long range model, the infrequent charging for this would not affect the battery significantly?
Your reasoning is correct in that should you exercise best practice with an NMC battery by only charging it to 80% regularly save for the occasional full charge when needed for longer drives, then you should get approximately the same range as a LFP SR charged to 100%. If you look after the NMC battery long term then you shouldn’t suffer excess degradation as I showed with my 9 year old Tesla Model S: Scan My Tesla Model S 70D Battery Degradation after 7.5 years 109000km ruclips.net/video/4iwWYACEH2U/видео.html
Thanks heaps for doing this review. I'm certainly looking forward to the two comparisons to a LFP battery and NMC and how they differ between cell type, safety, battery degradation, best charging practices, if LFP is much safer why would they do an NMC, how many NMC battery incidents there has been, having confidence and not range anxietyby having a long rangebattery. Sorry for asking so much lol. But I'm currently in the position to choosing either the standard and long-range Xpeng G6 and also tossing with the new BYD Sealion 7. Keep up the great work and very appreciated of the content you provide 🙏
Hey Tom,I am thinking of getting g6 standard range as my drive is majorly in the city in uae and less than 50 kms. Will it make sense or should I get the long range ? What your take ? Kindly help !
They’re both very similar in terms of inclusions except for the battery. SR is LFP whereas LR is NMC. Here’s a video which may help: Differences between LFP vs NMC Battery Chemistry for EVs in Australia ruclips.net/video/LLJkiE5fUgw/видео.html
Thanks Tom, looking at long range to me it makes the car more versatile. would like it to be LFP , living in tassie I loose to much range in winter with current LFP batteries. Both versions look tempting.
Fantasic Tom I'm keen on the base model but I was keen on the BYD Seal the model you have but I'm now a little unsure as to go with a big band BYD or a new company Xpeng.!!!
IMHO, I’d say go with the Xpeng. Newer company, yes! it’s only been 10years but they are steadily growing and providing amazing quality and tech for their price. I have tried both (Seal and the G6) and the G6 has better interiors, better build and completely better drive than the Seal. The battery is from CALB which is a trusted name in China aswell.
Hey Tom. Big fan here in Hong Kong. I hope you had a good time in your recent visit. I'm in the process of buying a new EV and I've paid the deposit (refundable) the BYD Sea Lion 7. But I’m also somewhat intrigued by the G6. You recently drove the Sea Lion in china. What are your thoughts about these two cars and id toh had a choice, which would go for? The advantage of the BYD is a lower price (even the AWD is about AUD5000 cheaper than the G6. To me, it also looks better. But it seems that the HK version won’t be the using the 3.0 evo platform and will have very few smart driving features. The G6 is going to charge significantly faster and it will have many advanced driving features (like auto parking).
I had a great time in HK and CN! I think you answered your own question … if the SL7 is not shipped to export markets on the new EVO platform then I think the G6 will win when it comes to tech and UX. However the SL7 seemed sportier to drive although I wouldn’t call my test drive in Xi’an real world conditions 😜 and I do like the styling and fit/finish of the SL7 also. The G6 has more of a modern, contemporary feel to it. It’ll be a tough choice!
The G6 feels roomier in the back than the SL7. I felt sunked in at the back seat of the SL7 and the window sill is quite high. I also don't like the door handle being so high up inside, I have to raise my arm to open the door. Storage wise, although the SL7 has a frunk, the rear trunk has 13L less space than the G6. We frequently move boxes from our storage area so the space in the rear trunk is important. We also ordered the G6 because our petrol car registration is in March and the SL7 won't be available until April or May. You should test drive the G6, they have a test car in the Wanchai showroom. My wife and I were impressed with the comfortable ride of the G6.
I think I’d go the long range. Reasons out on the road charging the last 10-20% of an LFP battery is going to be slow. Around town with the NMC most people would charge to 80% but if going on a trip charge to 100 before leaving. Even if 570km is 500km in the real world a single charge while travelling might give you an 800km range before being back home. The demo G6 I drive in Melbourne this week showed 53% battery and range of 330km. Consumption on the dash showed just over 13km/100.
It is not a denser chemistry it is just a larger pack. XPENG uses CALT batteries. CATL Lithium Ferro Phosphate is very close in density to NMC the main difference with the G6 is battery size.
I'm in HK and my driving range is 120 km max per day. Driving to the farthest parts of HK are around the same distance so the SR is my choice. I'll have a home charger so I doubt I'll need to access public chargers on any given trip.
@@LudicrousFeed Yup. I don't have Mainland China plates so I'm confined in HK. I've seen a few cars with dual licence plates in HK but it must be tricky to drive in China as their road system is right side drive while HK is left.
the only problem i have for choosing between base and long range. Of course we would love to picked long ranged battery EV. But i preferred LFP over NMC battery!!! LFP cycles is twice as much as NMC can do. higher heat sustainable than NMC. And NMC fast degrading. The only possitive about NMC is the output performances of power like speed power better than LFP by liiiiiiiiiiiiiitttle margin like 10% better? or 10% faster than LFP 0-100KMp/h. And got 100KM more to range. and is only 5k AUD more unlike tesla 15K more to upgrade long range model y but with dual motors and G6 RWD 1 motor only. If we are talking about longevity less degrading battery life is the choice. LFP can last longer than NMC almost twice of life span. But i want 570KM range!!!!!! i'm driving Model Y RWD 450KM already felt not enough if i wanna go long trip and fast charged up to 80% and ready to go. Which would you buy? Base LFP 450km? or NMC 570km?
If I were to buy this car I’d probably take the SR given the inclusions are similar between the two variants. The benefits of the LFP ie safety, longevity, being able to charge to 100% daily outweigh the benefits of LR with slightly increased range and marginal performance gains.
Just be careful with that statement because stats can sometimes be misconstrued … NMC may be 10x more prone to fire than LFP but both battery types are still 20-100x less fire prone than ICE. 10x more a very small number is still a very small number in regard to NMC:LFP risk as I explained in this video: Differences between LFP vs NMC Battery Chemistry for EVs in Australia ruclips.net/video/LLJkiE5fUgw/видео.html
Hey Tom,I am thinking of getting g6 standard range as my drive is majorly in the city in uae and less than 50 kms. Will it make sense or should I get the long range ? What your take ? Kindly help !
They’re both very similar in terms of inclusions except for the battery. SR is LFP whereas LR is NMC. Here’s a video which may help: Differences between LFP vs NMC Battery Chemistry for EVs in Australia ruclips.net/video/LLJkiE5fUgw/видео.html
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Thanks Tom! Got the SR on order, in orange of course 😅. My take is that its a city driving car and if I'm reading this right.. long range with NMC battery means I can only use 80% most the time (approx. 470kms) as the standard is LFP which you use at 100% (approx. 435kms) so the benefit is only minor unless I was to intentionally go on a long trip and knew in advance so I can charge it higher. We have an ICE vehicle for a Caravan, so long trips the G6 is likely to sit it out.
Team Orange! Yes I think if the G6 is to be a city car only then the SR is probably the best value
Hey Tom, Thanks for your Vids re: the G6. I've ordered the short range LFP (orange) model and champing at the bit for when the cars arrive in the country.
i was initially looking at the MG4 particularly with the discounted pricing but from what I've seen the G6 is worth the extra money for it's tech and finish. a very classy looking vehicle!
Great to hear! I think you’ll be happy with the car when it’s delivered 🙏
Thanks for the video. I'm new to EVs but it seems to me that the extended range's NMC battery should not be charged to 100% very often but to the recommended 80% which would be 456 kilometres. This effectively means that the range would be similar to the standard range model. Can anyone confirm or comment on this? And the LFP battery is safer (I wonder if there are numbers for how much safer the ferrous ones are?). Or could it be that the few times one actually needs 100% range in the long range model, the infrequent charging for this would not affect the battery significantly?
Your reasoning is correct in that should you exercise best practice with an NMC battery by only charging it to 80% regularly save for the occasional full charge when needed for longer drives, then you should get approximately the same range as a LFP SR charged to 100%. If you look after the NMC battery long term then you shouldn’t suffer excess degradation as I showed with my 9 year old Tesla Model S: Scan My Tesla Model S 70D Battery Degradation after 7.5 years 109000km
ruclips.net/video/4iwWYACEH2U/видео.html
Thanks heaps for doing this review. I'm certainly looking forward to the two comparisons to a LFP battery and NMC and how they differ between cell type, safety, battery degradation, best charging practices, if LFP is much safer why would they do an NMC, how many NMC battery incidents there has been, having confidence and not range anxietyby having a long rangebattery. Sorry for asking so much lol. But I'm currently in the position to choosing either the standard and long-range Xpeng G6 and also tossing with the new BYD Sealion 7. Keep up the great work and very appreciated of the content you provide 🙏
This is a great wish list which I will use in an upcoming comparison so thanks!
@@LudicrousFeed ♥️🙏
Hey Tom, will there be no AllWheelDrive option/variant for this G6 ? In Australia?
Not currently in Australia but I guess things may change should they see demand
Hey Tom,I am thinking of getting g6 standard range as my drive is majorly in the city in uae and less than 50 kms.
Will it make sense or should I get the long range ?
What your take ? Kindly help !
They’re both very similar in terms of inclusions except for the battery. SR is LFP whereas LR is NMC. Here’s a video which may help: Differences between LFP vs NMC Battery Chemistry for EVs in Australia
ruclips.net/video/LLJkiE5fUgw/видео.html
Thanks Tom
Pleasure 🙏
Xpeng has a model in which a bed can be set up. What model is it?
I believe it’s the G9?
I've seen YT videos of the G6 in China with the front seats fully reclined and the owner placed an air mattress on it
Thanks Tom, looking at long range to me it makes the car more versatile. would like it to be LFP , living in tassie I loose to much range in winter with current LFP batteries. Both versions look tempting.
Agreed, both are quite compelling tbh. I like the fact that most of the tech and features is available on the SR variant also
Unlike Tesla, Xpeng don't charge a delivery fee or an order fee. Important to compare drive away prices between Tesla and Xpeng.
XPENG uses CATL LFP which have great Winter capacity (much better than BYD Blade).
Fantasic Tom I'm keen on the base model but I was keen on the BYD Seal the model you have but I'm now a little unsure as to go with a big band BYD or a new company Xpeng.!!!
So much choice! I love it 🙏
IMHO, I’d say go with the Xpeng. Newer company, yes! it’s only been 10years but they are steadily growing and providing amazing quality and tech for their price. I have tried both (Seal and the G6) and the G6 has better interiors, better build and completely better drive than the Seal. The battery is from CALB which is a trusted name in China aswell.
@@dhoje Great thanks for that i'm starting to lean towards the Xpeng G6
Any word on when the P5/P7 might hit Australian shores?
Will update on our weekly live streams if I hear anything
Great video. I'm after V2G feature, Xpeng doesn't have that yet. Now I wait
V2X will sweep the industry soon enough I feel
@@LudicrousFeed Tesla have promised V2X next year. Is the G6 hardware capable of V2H or V2G?
Hey Tom. Big fan here in Hong Kong. I hope you had a good time in your recent visit.
I'm in the process of buying a new EV and I've paid the deposit (refundable) the BYD Sea Lion 7. But I’m also somewhat intrigued by the G6. You recently drove the Sea Lion in china. What are your thoughts about these two cars and id toh had a choice, which would go for? The advantage of the BYD is a lower price (even the AWD is about AUD5000 cheaper than the G6. To me, it also looks better. But it seems that the HK version won’t be the using the 3.0 evo platform and will have very few smart driving features. The G6 is going to charge significantly faster and it will have many advanced driving features (like auto parking).
I had a great time in HK and CN! I think you answered your own question … if the SL7 is not shipped to export markets on the new EVO platform then I think the G6 will win when it comes to tech and UX. However the SL7 seemed sportier to drive although I wouldn’t call my test drive in Xi’an real world conditions 😜 and I do like the styling and fit/finish of the SL7 also. The G6 has more of a modern, contemporary feel to it. It’ll be a tough choice!
Wow! You must be a squillionaire to afford to operate a vehicle in Hong Kong 😊
The G6 feels roomier in the back than the SL7. I felt sunked in at the back seat of the SL7 and the window sill is quite high. I also don't like the door handle being so high up inside, I have to raise my arm to open the door.
Storage wise, although the SL7 has a frunk, the rear trunk has 13L less space than the G6. We frequently move boxes from our storage area so the space in the rear trunk is important.
We also ordered the G6 because our petrol car registration is in March and the SL7 won't be available until April or May.
You should test drive the G6, they have a test car in the Wanchai showroom. My wife and I were impressed with the comfortable ride of the G6.
I think I’d go the long range. Reasons out on the road charging the last 10-20% of an LFP battery is going to be slow. Around town with the NMC most people would charge to 80% but if going on a trip charge to 100 before leaving. Even if 570km is 500km in the real world a single charge while travelling might give you an 800km range before being back home. The demo G6 I drive in Melbourne this week showed 53% battery and range of 330km. Consumption on the dash showed just over 13km/100.
Battery is the only issue. Warranty also has not been disclosed it seems. Don’t know why sunshade has become something to skip.
Warranty is 5yr vehicle and 8 year battery. Both can be extended to 10 years. Servicing costs are yet to be announced.
@@LudicrousFeed Perfect. That is convincing. It is a good product. Hope the company last. Thank you ❤
It is not a denser chemistry it is just a larger pack. XPENG uses CALT batteries. CATL Lithium Ferro Phosphate is very close in density to NMC the main difference with the G6 is battery size.
If I’m not mistaken, XPeng G6 batteries are supplied by CALB? cnevpost.com/2023/07/18/calb-xpeng-largest-battery-supplier/
I'm in HK and my driving range is 120 km max per day. Driving to the farthest parts of HK are around the same distance so the SR is my choice. I'll have a home charger so I doubt I'll need to access public chargers on any given trip.
I reckon if you’re only doing city driving the SR might be enough …
@@LudicrousFeed Yup. I don't have Mainland China plates so I'm confined in HK. I've seen a few cars with dual licence plates in HK but it must be tricky to drive in China as their road system is right side drive while HK is left.
the only problem i have for choosing between base and long range. Of course we would love to picked long ranged battery EV. But i preferred LFP over NMC battery!!! LFP cycles is twice as much as NMC can do. higher heat sustainable than NMC. And NMC fast degrading. The only possitive about NMC is the output performances of power like speed power better than LFP by liiiiiiiiiiiiiitttle margin like 10% better? or 10% faster than LFP 0-100KMp/h. And got 100KM more to range. and is only 5k AUD more unlike tesla 15K more to upgrade long range model y but with dual motors and G6 RWD 1 motor only.
If we are talking about longevity less degrading battery life is the choice. LFP can last longer than NMC almost twice of life span. But i want 570KM range!!!!!! i'm driving Model Y RWD 450KM already felt not enough if i wanna go long trip and fast charged up to 80% and ready to go. Which would you buy? Base LFP 450km? or NMC 570km?
If I were to buy this car I’d probably take the SR given the inclusions are similar between the two variants. The benefits of the LFP ie safety, longevity, being able to charge to 100% daily outweigh the benefits of LR with slightly increased range and marginal performance gains.
@@LudicrousFeed wonder why they make LR under NMC battery instead of LFP. Is not a performance model spec. people want long range for reason.
Standard range battery is fire proof lfp instead of nmc that is prone to fire. Just made my decision to buy and stay alive
Just be careful with that statement because stats can sometimes be misconstrued … NMC may be 10x more prone to fire than LFP but both battery types are still 20-100x less fire prone than ICE.
10x more a very small number is still a very small number in regard to NMC:LFP risk as I explained in this video:
Differences between LFP vs NMC Battery Chemistry for EVs in Australia
ruclips.net/video/LLJkiE5fUgw/видео.html
Tesla competitors are emerging from China.
The legacy automotive companies do not appear to be in the game at this stage.
Absolutely
Hey Tom,I am thinking of getting g6 standard range as my drive is majorly in the city in uae and less than 50 kms.
Will it make sense or should I get the long range ?
What your take ? Kindly help !
They’re both very similar in terms of inclusions except for the battery. SR is LFP whereas LR is NMC. Here’s a video which may help: Differences between LFP vs NMC Battery Chemistry for EVs in Australia
ruclips.net/video/LLJkiE5fUgw/видео.html