Atheist Experience 22.11 with Matt Dillahunty and Jen Peeples
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- 19:04 Mark: Toronto, Canada: A Revised Concept of Hell
35:02 Jacob: NY: Meaning of the Bible
53:30 Jeremy: MD: Divisions and Misogyny in the Skeptic Community
1:21:10 Raoul: Tampa, FL: Rebutting Archeological Evidence in the Bible (dropped call)
1:26:05 Muhammed: Saudi Arabia: Creation Evidence, Kalam Cosmological
The Atheist Experience episode 22.11 for March 25, 2018, with Matt Dillahunty and Jen Peeples. Austin Bomber. Jen talks about a local bomber and a bit about his motivations and background.
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Mark Twain famously said “Go to heaven for the climate. Go to hell for the company.“
What company is that, Starbucks?
@@whynottalklikeapirat lol, bloody english
What If I believe I God, have repented all my sins, have lived a good life but still don't want to go to heaven?
I mean who would want to go there if the Kent Hovands, Ken Hams, Jimmy Swaggarts, Ray Comforts of the world are there?
I want to meet up with all the great scientists, musicians, humanitarians and those who contributed the wellbeing of humanity.
Hell is the place for me.
Bigboy that’s awesome😄✌🏼
An eternity with the Hams and Swaggarts would be HELL.
Well said. I have never thought of that and it is spot on.
What makes you think that Hovind (or any of the other God Squad charlatans) would end up in heaven? If heaven and hell do exist and we do have souls which go to either of them, Hovind at the very least would be more likely to end up in hell.
Haha yes let's do it fuck them I'm going to imaginary hell too
What's scary is that people are actually able to still rationalize their ridiculous beliefs even after being burned to a crisp in the laser beam of Matt's intense intellect and being flattened by his logical sledge hammers.
That's exactly what childhood indoctrination does to people. It could take a long, long time to allow oneself to think freely without the fear of punishment if you have been "brainwashed" in a very religious environment during your upbringing.
@@mikewineshore6939 It took me decades to get past my indoctrination, and it was mild at worst.
unfortunately it seems literally impossible to change someone's core belief system overnight
@@DJTMusic or even after years or even decades of logic and reason being force fed to them.
Mark, after repeated charges of dodging. Charged again. "I don't mean to be dodgy." Gets question. /Immediately/ dodges by adding a condition.
You know whats amazing about what you all do... if that kid (from the beginning of the show) said "NO, you do not deserve to go to hell." He'de be on the quick-path to atheism. Things like that are a pinnacle mental breakthrough from the years of brainwashing.
At about 48:00, Jacob says we were made so we couldn't detect God, BUT THEN when Matt called him on it,he said, well that's why we have Prophets and Messengers.
Soooooooooo, am I stupid or is the obvious followup, how do Prophets and Messengers detect God to tell us other humans about him?? Aren't they also humans?
They're specially touched. Chosen. Sprinkled. Get a Golden Ticket. Special chip installed. 6G.
@@brucebaker810 6G? Well hell. Guess there’s a hell. 😂
It's all so absurd, the notion of angels and there actually being a devil, heaven and hell. It's all out of a comic book or cartoon.
And conveniently the Bible has zero concrete evidence. How can anything that has zero concrete evidence be true??
It's very sad that young minds like Jacob are indoctrinated this way. It's disheartening that he believes something someone has told him wholeheartedly instead of reading and comprehending what he's read with common sense.
"Different, but equal."
Gee that says a lot huh?
Love this episode
I litterally hate this episode. This was before Matt knew how toxic the youtube "skeptic" community had become, didn't know who Richard Spencer was, and thought the left was trying to de-platform people (aka the made up right wing talking point now know as cancel culture).
it's always so interesting that the people who most strongly deny systemic racism are often also the ones with the most vehemently racist views and who are in favour of reinstating ethnostates etc.
I want to share my beliefs. I believe that if only 20% of people on Earth would listen to this show carefully and actually think about the things, in like 10 years we would all be driving polution free cars and live in a society where we would mind our own business without worrying that my neighbour might be a secret member of some stupid cult and he doesn't like the fact that our kids are learning stuff about the universe we live in instead some ferry storries about gods. We would forget about water shortage or famins because we would destribute our resources rationally and not politically. Education would take the lead in governments spendings instead of militarization.
But sadly I realize that this is my wish which I'll never see come true...
Sorry for my bad english btw. This is only my 3rd language I can comunicate in.
A dream worth having, surely.
Lies told thousands years ago and lies told today have same value, all to be dismissed with prejudice.
"lies" or misunderstandings of natural phenomena and unsubstantiated claims of supernatural explanations for existence?
@Viktor Tandofsky
Not my job to prove veracity of THE Book of Lies.
You believe it, show your reasoned EVIDENCE.
@Viktor Tandofsky it doesn't work that way. If you are making a positive claim, then you must back it up.
Why keep going to Toronto? Alberta needs atheism more than Ontario... Alberta has more religious rightwings than any other province as far as I know. Please come to Edmonton or Calgary... We really need you. Being an atheist in Alberta is a daily chore
Alberta... the Texas of Canada.
@@siLence-84 You know, I have no idea! It would be great though... ;^D
Yeah I live in Ontario and I'm definitely not in the minority for being an atheist, at least for people around my age
Sargon...I tried to like him but something about him always bothered me. Recently I found out shoeonehead and armouredsceptic aren't as nice as they seem.
so im not the only one
@@gulgul877 nope you're in company, although it seems most people disagree with us.
Smugly chuckles
@@saphrix4587 Of course Mr Smiles is the source of smug chuckling! Look at that cheeky face lol.
@@33melonpaws77
It's adorable!!!
Heaven and hell is all in your head, people. Done! Have a great day!!
So true
Great Advice.....
Damn Matt has been doing this since 2 months before I was born
He's been doing this since 4 years before I was born
That's so true, there are tons of people calling them selfs "skeptic" without really being ones. One of my cousins does and she truly believe is a miracle that one flour tortilla hasn't go rotten yet is because imagine of Jesus is in it and there are any natural or logical explanation.
@@mufasta8322 She just won´t listen to me, for whatever reason, she thinks I believe god doesn't exist. Is kinda weird, but in Mexico people never really defend their believes, they just would tell you "well thats what you believe", even if you're stating a fact.
No it hasn't, but flour tortillas just get dry and hard, I'll asume thats what happen to the jesus tortilla and since you're not allow touch it...
@@mufasta8322 Are they catholics? Most of my family is, but the are some christians, the christians one would get really mad if I told them anything against religion, even with little things like "evolution is real", they just say "you hate god and us".
The catholics, always said things like "no, the bible doesn't say that, I haven't read it but I know it doesn't" or "yeah but atheist rape children too" or "thats what you said but it doesn't make it true".
So don't talk to them anymore about that, I just post things in facebook and all people get mad and call me things.
Men I'll give half of life to meet another atheist where I live.
To be clear, the singular form of the word criteria is *not* "criteria." The singular form is criterion. Criteria is the plural form.
Ihiria.
This means nothing, and I'm not into numerology, but Matt started on Sunday, March 13, of 2005.
Day 7, 0313, 2005.
7, 7, 7.
Matt has been chosen.
He is hesitant to answer the question regarding sending a person to hell because he knows it is immoral decision.
Mark's restorative justice...restores nothing to the victim.
Mark really needs to think about things, a tiny bit at least, really any amount more than he did on this call.
Thanks for your sacrifice and efforts to try to bring sanity to a mentally challenged world.
Smite is a word that should be used more often...for no particular reason.
smite!
Smite
Etims
I’ve been smitten by the word, myself. I use it quite often for dramatic effect.
Tell me who to smite and they will be smoten.
You can trace "Tarzan and the Jewels of Opar" back to the original manuscript and author.
This proves beyond doubt that Tarzan really existed.
Nobody has ever proved that he didn't.
Therefore God exists.
Checkmate, atheists. /s
@@blackhat4206
They haven't got a leg to stand on.
This is funny. I thought you were making a joke, at first.
@@blackhat4206
All jokes have to be created.
Therefore there is a creator !
@@tedgrant2 I haven’t laughed this much in years. Thanks, dude. That is priceless, though I agree that most jokes require a creator. On the other hand, some natural occurrences become jokes after the fact, by virtue of being perceived by another.
that last caller with the unintelligible gibberish
when i was a kid i had a vhs copy of "the land before time"
sleeper31204 Ha! I see what you did there... 😐 Wait, never mind. What did you do there? 🤔
Same. I had a stuffed toy, I think his name was Spike.
99% of people without a wrinkle or two have no idea what u r talking about
Jacob. Moe was from a tribe known for their storytelling. And memorizing of stories.
And who defined "perfect"? Was it an existing checklist and Koran ticked all boxes? Or did some guys read the koran and (perhaps with a use for a perfect book?) say "wow...that is one perfect book right there."?
Shakespeare is difficult not because it's written in English too far removed from modern English. In fact scholars regard that the modern english period started from about the time of Shakespeare. It is difficult because it is written in very complex figurative verse packed with allusions and metaphors. Chaucer would be a better example to illustrate how language has changed - since Medieval English is barely intelligible to speakers of modern english.
So if I get shot in my backyard am I automatically innocent? I don't know the particulars of the case he referenced but that seems like a loaded statement. If a cop comes to my property and I pull a gun on him and he shoots me in my backyard, I still ultimately caused an action that led to him using his firearm in a manner consistent with his training and the law.
In countries with an actual police force and sensible legal system, this wouldn't normally happen, and the police would be held to account.
so was Mark who used to call actually a prank caller then?
Yes. There's a collection of his calls. At the end he pulls off the mask. I think he was also ChrisLanganFan.
And it got ugly behind the scenes. There was a post about it on the old blog. I don't know if it's still up at old or new.
Old was freethoughtblogs. New one might be...bluesky something.
Mark, restorative justice is about restoring the VICTIM, not the criminal
I would like to speak to the ad~~ministration 🔍🧐👌
I wish Matt would run for office! He’d have my vote! And others I know ~
wow - the rules on who does/does not get into heaven - when, how, why is like a 500 page fine print contract written in Latin & terms of which may or may not expire based on another set of archaic rules - good job God - making things so clear...
no wonder there are so many pastors, priests, rabbis & imams - all selling their religious 'legal services'
The illiterate guy dictated the story and their followers wrote it down for him?
Well, of course Islam would divide as soon as the guy died: he couldn't even confirm if what was written was, in fact, what he dictated.
According to John in Revelation, Jesus "washed us from our sins in his own blood".
Imagine, taking all the blood from a human, putting it in a bath, then washing some people in the blood. Obviously, some of the blood would stick to the bodies of the washees, so after every wash, there would be less blood left in the bath. So how many people could be washed in the blood of Jesus ? 50 ? 100 ? 1000 ? Not a great number, surely. Also, would they be clean ? And would they still be sinners ? Come on John, think !
ted
Come on Ted, think!
Sin is blasphemy against gob.
No gob, no sin.
Gob is just another 4-letter word, no matter how you spell it.
Easy-peasy.
Why is that so hard, ted?
ted
Your gob, bastard son, and you REALLY get off on blood.
That's SICK, ted!
@@johnlopperman2161
You are right, but its not my idea. There are people who think they are drinking blood when in fact they are drinking wine. And the blood they think they are drinking is from a guy who died 2000 years ago. Some people imagine that there is an infinite amount, a never ending supply of that blood. Some people think that the blood washes away their sin. It is mad. But it shows that people will believe any nonsense as long as that gives them eternal life in Heaven.
@@tedgrant2
You, and everyone else claiming gob, refrains from producing it. Would you now refrain from producing, just a smidgen, evidence of "eternal life in heaven," or shy of that, at least give us a glimpse of your/the/it "heaven."
Give us something more than blood fetishes and mythological madness of fear/worship.
@@johnlopperman2161
Yer spill chocker doisn't seom ti bo wacking.
Mark's answer, according to christian theology, should have been, everyone is deserving of hell. People are only saved by god's grace.
Social Media has changed our culture and not in a good way. I've resisted it all so far, I watch youtube about every day but seldom comment. Keep up the good work, thanks for being out about your beliefs cause I don't feel comfortable in doing so here in Indiana.
Just Dave - isn’t it sad that in an apparently free country like the USA that you can’t have free speech without feeling uncomfortable.
It's worse than that actually. I don't feel uncomfortable, I wouldn't feel safe.
In the olden days, the idiots and loonies would be pointed at in the streets and laughed at. Now they can instantly communicate with other such insaniacs.
@@petermirtitsch1235 Plus in the old days we didn't know how many there really were. Now we do.
@@bronxcheer1484 why should you automatically feel comfortable? Ever consider that having the RIGHT to say or do what you want carries a responsibility NOT to do so unless necessary? Living among others in society carries an obligation to ensure the survival of said society. That's not necessarily best served by everyone doing what they rn well please. Consider that.
poor Mark lol....WRECKED by Matt
At 1:24:35 600,000 men not including small children, old people and women so actually there were supposed to be around 4,000,000 people...
Where is the per capita statistics on crime for Detroit vs. Austin?
DEEK well after the mass murder in Austin, they are probably leading the race
MATT, apply these same principles to government.
52:55 You can have it in any color you want, as long as it's black.
Atheism leads to skepticism, skepticism leads to ability to better see untrue things.
This leads to believing more true things and less false things.
skepticism leads to atheism. it's an application of skepticism to the god question.
I'm a moon landing skeptic.
I thought Coptics were Christian and they don't believe he survived the crucifixion- of coarse I may be wrong.
Things are tangible and mental?
Poor, poor simple Jacob. 😞
Mark can't think. But we all know he is a troll.
Hey God here's a thought to solve the dilemma about children under 3 or whatever not getting to go to Heaven. Stop calling them home before they reach the age of understanding. Maybe start with eliminating childhood leukemia, I can't imagine anyone being upset if you did that.
First caller was so dishonest and it shows how much he’s not even sure about what he believes. It’s so strange people can hold these type of beliefs and not even any deep understanding of their own theology.
You won't need planning permission in Heaven.
But you will need to comply with fire regulations.
You'll be in Cloud Storage.
You and 5-10 other souls share a solid gold bin.
On a shelf. On an aisle. In a warehouse.
In one of the admin regions of Heaven.
You get out once a day. You get to use a pair of the shared wings once a month.
For Eternity.
@@brucebaker810
But according to Jesus, I will enjoy the bosom of Abraham for ever and ever fed up.
(Luke 16:22)
Fire regulations in Hell are different. Specifies short list of things that are supposed to NOT be on fire.
And you maybe got there thru improper planning. Or insufficient perrmission.
@@brucebaker810
That's certainly given me food for thought.
Sausages and mash with chicken gravy.
Mmmm
Nnnnoooo, just because you're racist doesn't mean the rest of us are.
1:19:59 to 1:2017 Wish I could clip this XD
That other caller sounded like Aziz Ansari. The one using the prison analogy.
7. I liked this good points
Systemic Systems of Structural Institutions
Trigger alert at 28:00.
I wounder how many times Matt has told someone to "shut the fuck up" when he is face to face? Hmmmm
Matt and Jan were clearly unaware at the time of this video, how gross and alt right the RUclips skeptic community has become.
Alot of people have been manipulated into thinking that the real left(real as in not corporate and/or neolib), is "right wing". I hope you're not one of those ppl. Because those ppl are dumber than any right-winger lol.
I don't really agree with the whole "everyone is racist" idea. I think it fundamentally misunderstands racism and equivocates it with racial prejudice.
Racism is the BELIEF that one's race is superior. It's hard to have a belief like that and not know it.
Racial prejudice is treating people differently because of their race. I'd argue it has to be intentional to be prejudice but if you must argue that unconscious acts like avoiding eye contact or feeling uncomfortable without acting any different are included under this then you must say that not all racial prejudice is immoral. Unconscious acts can't be immoral.
Should we work to be better and treat people more equally? Hell yeah we should. But should we assign an awful label associated with the worst kinds of people to those with good intentions trying their best? Not if your intention is progress. Seems like just an excuse to shame white people. Shame my grandparents, shame my ancestors. Don't shame me for their crimes and beliefs.
Hey, Matt Dillahunty, what about the significant difference in average IQ between races? Could that have something to do with "unequal outcomes"?
Demonstrate there is such a thing
You have a couple of problems. They are HEAVILY weighted towards certain cultures, and are principally oriented to seeing who is good at IQ tests.
it is less about race and more economic disparity
That guy caught in Austin was Jesus.
Sargon? Sounds like a villain from lord of the rings. That or a limescale remover.
Change requires time is an assumption that can be easily debated. Time emerges from change, not the other way around.
You're conflating a scientific and colloquial definition of both time and change.
Scientifically yes, the variable know as time is a measure of change in a system.
But saying something like society will change isn't so much saying 'there's going to be measurable differences' but rather 'the current status quo/culture will be vastly different'.
There will always be differences, yes, so technically there will always be change. But if a society remains exactly the same for 1,000 years just has new people as the generations die and are replaced, then no one will look at that society colloquially and say it has changed. Despite that fact that there's a measurable change, in that the same exact people are no longer alive, society hasn't 'changed' because it still acts the same and has the same culture.
Song name, please?
Skeptická britva what song?
@@douglasharris5216 at the begining of the show
If the god of the bible had been portrayed as a king instead of a God , he would be remembered as the most evil, mass murdering, tyrannical dictator of all time! Christians give the bible god a free pass because, they say, he is god the creator. I don't see the difference whether man or god. If his actions were evil or immoral, as the bible states, then he'd be just as guilty of being evil as any human committing the same deeds.
Comments are back?!
Jesus still saves Green Stamps. Exclusively.
I speak Aramaic, and actually a lot more people does, check your facts
I fundamentally disagree with this "you see color and you are racist regardless".
The USA is most certainly racist still anyway.
'The USA' is not racist. Some people in the USA are, but USA itself has eliminated systemic racism, you can't blame a country on it's worst citizens.
@@DarthZ01 uhindipict
bi
@@DarthZ01 ;indanrespeh
@@DarthZ01 you never heard of WW2?
Matt ... Don and I is correct in the context used. lol
Mark is just plain full of it. The Bible is the Big Book of Multiple Choice and no more real than a comic book about Bugs Bunny.
Man... If only Matt today could go back and watch Matt of 2018... at least the caller at 1:10:00
This was prior to the Ultra-Ultra-Mega-Left Matt
People are generally treated according to how they ACT. If a particular segment of the population is unhappy about how they are looked upon, perhaps they need to change their behavior. We're trying to have a civilized society here Matt Dillahunty.
Anyone miss the old intro song?
Tbh generally speaking, don’t African American men have issues staying with their family? Eg. Too many single mom’s in too bad ghetto situation? Like how 50 cent grew up, though he managed to get out by music
Its a culture issue. Not a race issue. I grew up in a poor area in cleveland without a father. Most people around me did. Mixed races all around.
1:33:48 metaverse
Jeremy is either a troll or being devil's advocate, depends on your perspective.
I DO not see color - but I do see culture.
There's only two races, NASCAR and Indi.
So if we are all racist.... then we all believe in God.
Youre an idiot
The difficult lunch exceptionally confuse because cyclone isely zip underneath a uncovered baseball. uptight, pink pendulum
My hypothesis why male offsprings of rich black families tend to descent on the social ladder is becauce they embrace the so called rap-culture.
Drugs, misogyny, violence and disrespect of other people doesn't get you anywhere nowhere.
Your prejudices and bias are showing. Do you have any actual proof or did you just pull it out of your behind?
You write and spell like a member of the social ladder-descending culture.
What’s your excuse?
@UCuU74Ft9IeamXJrQ0UPi7AA it's not about anyone being offended, it's about facts and evidence. Show me that and I'll change my mind.
maybe he listen to the rapp @@larjkok1184
Social justice warriors like Matt are immune to facts on this subject. In his world, everyone is the same. We all have the same ambition and intelligence. We are all equal and our circumstances are caused by how we are treated by others. If blacks are not doing as well as other races, it must be that the other races are racist and treat blacks differently. This is the disconnect. Matt has figured out using reason and logic that the claim that god exists is an unsupported claim. The fact that people are different across racial lines just doesn't penetrate his thick skull.
To me, Matt seems to be redefining racism. If racism is just bias then there is no need for the term racism and they are indistinguishable from each other. Racism implies you are "looking down" at another tace and/or viewing them as inferior to your race.
Isn't that biased?
Sorry but not every person ist Racist, thats stupid.
BORING Jeremy
What exactly is your definition of racism? I find it hard to believe that you honestly think that everyone thinks their own race is superior to every other race. It seems like you are conflating racist with prejudice..
Atheism 1.0
Please don't start pushing CRT. It is absolute horseshit
Do you even actually know what it is, or did you just hear a synopsis from someone else who doesn't know what it is?
LOVE you guy. But you need a less cringe inducing and condescending intro song. Every time I hear it I consider converting to Catholicism.
Ya, the old song was better!
So I'm racist, because in your eyes everyone is racist??? How can you be so logical in so many areas, and then say something as ridiculous as this? Oh- it must be your own bias. I would actually be interested in the explanations people have come up with in regards to the failure of black men in US society, but you won't even mention them, let alone discuss them, apparently because you have decided the only reason is racism. Somehow, their failure is my fault.
I'm not positive but I think they pulled an SJW/Religious tactic and redefined the term racism to fit the agenda they are pushing. It seems the "atheism movement" has split into two separate groups of people one that went the way of "PC culture" and the other that went "anti pc culture". They of course have went the way of PC culture and let their own bias rule their logic/reasoning in specific areas, ironically very similar to what religious people do when it comes to anything "god" related.
No, what he means is everyone has unconscious racial biases. Like it or not it is true.
@@Jett-King Are you making this claim based on you having these racial biases or do you have some evidence that everyone has these biases?
@@kekui1647 Yes, because everyone is of a certain race they unconsciously hold biases.
It is a fact. Call in next weekend ask Matthew about this and he will tell you
@@Jett-King To bad not everyone is one race and mix race people exists.
This guy is so snarky and can’t help but to cut people off when speaking. Atheist or not. Try using some manners.
If the god of the bible had been portrayed as a king instead of a God , he would be remembered as the most evil, mass murdering, tyrannical dictator of all time! Christians give the bible god a free pass because, they say, he is god the creator. I don't see the difference whether man or god. If his actions were evil or immoral, as the bible states, then he'd be just as guilty of being evil as any human committing the same deeds.