As the timpanist for whom this was written and who gave the orchestral world premiere in 2007, I am so pleased to see PD have a solo life after my own first run at it. The many recordings posted on RUclips have given the piece a life of its own, with each version adding to the majesty of the piece. John is a wonderful composer with an innate gift of understanding timpani and percussion. Thank you to Daan and all the many talented timpanists who have tackled this giant work! Well done all! 👍🥁❤❤
Thank you for your comment Larry! I totally agree with you, PD is already one of the absolut ‚classics‘ in percussion-repertoire and will continue to be so. I‘m grateful as a young percussionist that so many composers write great new pieces and we had this amazing generation of percussionists like yourself who opened the path for us 🙏
@Daan Wilms Thank you for your very kind words, Daan! Your playing and that of your contemporaries assures us oldies that the future of timpani playing is very bright!
After I had to learn this for a scholarship it very much opened my mind about what I can do with a timpani. Now timpani is even more my favorite instrument😂
I was at the NZSO in Wellington last night and the performance of Adam Schoenberg's 'Losing Earth' took me right back to Planet Damnation. I remember being at the premier when you played @larryreese8923, it blew my mind then, as it remains blown now; Daan, you certainly did it justice - so cool.
im a trombone player who took an intro to percussion class last semester adnd let me just say, around 1:45 to the end my jaw was just on the floor. really incredible stuff man
Absolutely amazing solo! I don't know a single thing about timpani, but this is still one of the most impressive things I've seen. Btw; I read that Danny Carey - the drummer of Tool - played timpani when he was younger, and I can definitely see that it has influenced his playing greatly!
Incredible performance! Extremely creative choices for the tuning selections, especially the cross-drum patterns and putting higher notes on larger drums! Much better than my own performance! Bravo!
@@DaanDrum Thank you! I regret not making a studio-quality recording all those years ago, so now all i have is a live performance with so many mistakes :(
@@trebledawson maybe there will be an opportunity for you in the future to play it again, you will be surprised how much of the motoric-part (especially the tuning) will still be there!
@@DaanDrum Perhaps! I hope so. I'm very curious about your recording setup. As I'm sure you know, it is very difficult to record timpani, since the overtones and resonance interfere with the microphone. Your recording has done an excellent job of capturing primarily the fundamental, and dampening the overtones. What microphone setup did you use, and did you do any sound editing after the recording?
I put above (ca. 1-1,5m) every timp separately a mic (just basic Rode-NT5). So I could pan every timp just a little bit from Left to Right. Which I find makes it more transparent. I did‘t put a room-mic though (beginner mistake 😅) so I‘m thinking to record it again with room-mic‘s added and maybe just better microphones in general.
an interesting composition... and a reference piece for me when i wonder whether or not the parts i have written for the timpanist are too complex for a real-life setting... thanks and bravo ! 🙏⭐
@@DaanDrum 😄 seriously though, i see how it is possible to retune a timp while playing it, and i assume that timpanists actually adjust notes slightly as they play if they realize that they're somewhat out of tune... what i find less obvious is evaluating how fast can timpanists retune while not playing, in pauses between phrases, and what does that entails... for instance, how long would the average timpanist need to retune 4 timps so they don't have to tune each one of them on the fly as they play the next phrase, especially when key and/or range have changed significantly... that kind of questioning, trying to design parts with such considerations in mind...
I think a lot of this has to do with muscle-memory. Wieland Welzel (timpanist of the Berliner Philharmoniker) ones told me in a masterclass, that he was able to tune some notes just be feeling the right tension in his foot as he had to watch the conductor during a particular passage.
@@DaanDrum thanks for finding some time to reply... foot muscle-memory... pretty much like a musician who plays a fretless stringed instrument with their hands... so then an experienced timpanist could indeed tune at least some of the notes in a short time, while not playing... this helps... maybe i don't need to overthink such considerations in advance... thanks !
timpani was my favorite instrument to play in percussion. but i still laugh everytime i hear a pedal change. i can't take timpani seriously when they're glissando-ing all over the place
Now that was just amazing!!! Ive never heard any solo for timpani that was as jamming as this one. Awesome! Thunderous! Your accuracy on the tuning was perfect. Did you attempt this without the tuning gauges? Just wondering.
@@DaanDrum well you absolutely crushed this! when I was in college (35 years ago) I’d go to the music building late at night and set up 5 timpani in the large orchestra rehearsal room, turn only the spotlights covering just myself and the drums and practice my solo works but then later I’d just jam out and have fun. Nothing to this level, but still, being alone in huge room just enjoying myself making sonic thunder was great fun. Too bad we didn’t have cell phone cameras back then. 😂 Have you ever hear of the concerto for timpani & orchestra by Werner Tharichen? I got the piece from my teacher to play on my final Recital. Really neat piece and I wish I still had the orchestral recording. I do still have the piano reduction.
@@Ihitthings3 i finally found some time to listen to this concerto. Great piece, thank you for mentioning it! I got a smile from reading your story 🙌 I think at some point, every young timpanist want to have such experiences and just keep on jamming those timps!
I have a question, where can I get the tape? I bought the sheet music but I dropped the record and I can't mount the piece. Is there any chance to get just the track? Thank you and excellent presentation. :)
I have put a mic above every single timpani, around 1,5m pointing towards the drum (like overheads). So this gave me the possibility to work with panning in the mix. Which give every timp some space and makes it more transparent in my opinion.
I played this piece already a few times in concerts before, but I would say around 4-5 months for a first performance. Where I recommend to start very slow and very well thought about the tuning scheme, this piece is very motoric, so once it‘s in there it will stay there for the rest of your life!
@@sunnyi2711 I can verify its playable on 4 timp. 5 is just easier, you'll defiantly need to change some of the written drum numbers though in the sections its written in on the sheet music.
It looks hard but once you get the music it’s a lot easier. And you just feel it instead of trying to count. I’m currently playing this for a scholarship. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying it’s easy. But it just looks a harder than it is. At least in my opinion
As the timpanist for whom this was written and who gave the orchestral world premiere in 2007, I am so pleased to see PD have a solo life after my own first run at it. The many recordings posted on RUclips have given the piece a life of its own, with each version adding to the majesty of the piece. John is a wonderful composer with an innate gift of understanding timpani and percussion. Thank you to Daan and all the many talented timpanists who have tackled this giant work! Well done all! 👍🥁❤❤
Thank you for your comment Larry! I totally agree with you, PD is already one of the absolut ‚classics‘ in percussion-repertoire and will continue to be so. I‘m grateful as a young percussionist that so many composers write great new pieces and we had this amazing generation of percussionists like yourself who opened the path for us 🙏
@Daan Wilms Thank you for your very kind words, Daan! Your playing and that of your contemporaries assures us oldies that the future of timpani playing is very bright!
After I had to learn this for a scholarship it very much opened my mind about what I can do with a timpani. Now timpani is even more my favorite instrument😂
I was at the NZSO in Wellington last night and the performance of Adam Schoenberg's 'Losing Earth' took me right back to Planet Damnation. I remember being at the premier when you played @larryreese8923, it blew my mind then, as it remains blown now; Daan, you certainly did it justice - so cool.
@@johniscariot5582 Many thanks for your kind words, John! Adam wrote a lovely work for percussion, don't you think?
im a trombone player who took an intro to percussion class last semester adnd let me just say, around 1:45 to the end my jaw was just on the floor. really incredible stuff man
Absolutely amazing solo! I don't know a single thing about timpani, but this is still one of the most impressive things I've seen.
Btw; I read that Danny Carey - the drummer of Tool - played timpani when he was younger, and I can definitely see that it has influenced his playing greatly!
I notice that his drums are in the German configuration
Correct
Are they numbered large 1 small 5 (like American configuration) or far left 1 far right 5?
@@tiyenin Do you mean in this pice or in general?
@@tiyenin largest on the right
@@tiyenin you can number them how ever it might help you! There is no timp numbering law...
Wow. Thats a lot of tuning on the fly! Very difficult and well executed! Bravo.
Incredible performance! Extremely creative choices for the tuning selections, especially the cross-drum patterns and putting higher notes on larger drums! Much better than my own performance! Bravo!
Thank you Glenn, I just saw your version and I think it´s really good as well!
@@DaanDrum Thank you! I regret not making a studio-quality recording all those years ago, so now all i have is a live performance with so many mistakes :(
@@trebledawson maybe there will be an opportunity for you in the future to play it again, you will be surprised how much of the motoric-part (especially the tuning) will still be there!
@@DaanDrum Perhaps! I hope so. I'm very curious about your recording setup. As I'm sure you know, it is very difficult to record timpani, since the overtones and resonance interfere with the microphone. Your recording has done an excellent job of capturing primarily the fundamental, and dampening the overtones. What microphone setup did you use, and did you do any sound editing after the recording?
I put above (ca. 1-1,5m) every timp separately a mic (just basic Rode-NT5). So I could pan every timp just a little bit from Left to Right. Which I find makes it more transparent. I did‘t put a room-mic though (beginner mistake 😅) so I‘m thinking to record it again with room-mic‘s added and maybe just better microphones in general.
upper class! greetings from an vienna symphonic drummer
Fantastic
Mighty and magnificent.
Amazing video and performance! I wish it were 60fps!
You are the best!
an interesting composition... and a reference piece for me when i wonder whether or not the parts i have written for the timpanist are too complex for a real-life setting... thanks and bravo ! 🙏⭐
If the timpanist has time enough to practise, al lot is possible! 😆
@@DaanDrum 😄
seriously though, i see how it is possible to retune a timp while playing it, and i assume that timpanists actually adjust notes slightly as they play if they realize that they're somewhat out of tune... what i find less obvious is evaluating how fast can timpanists retune while not playing, in pauses between phrases, and what does that entails... for instance, how long would the average timpanist need to retune 4 timps so they don't have to tune each one of them on the fly as they play the next phrase, especially when key and/or range have changed significantly... that kind of questioning, trying to design parts with such considerations in mind...
I think a lot of this has to do with muscle-memory. Wieland Welzel (timpanist of the Berliner Philharmoniker) ones told me in a masterclass, that he was able to tune some notes just be feeling the right tension in his foot as he had to watch the conductor during a particular passage.
@@DaanDrum thanks for finding some time to reply...
foot muscle-memory... pretty much like a musician who plays a fretless stringed instrument with their hands... so then an experienced timpanist could indeed tune at least some of the notes in a short time, while not playing... this helps... maybe i don't need to overthink such considerations in advance... thanks !
Top work! 👍🏽😎👍🏽
Outstanding!
Toute une performance ! Bravo !
OKay. I''m impressed with what you can do with the kettles. Officially.
Brilliantly played, well done!
💪🏻💪🏻Super sehr GUT der Meister!!!🙌🏻
Well done, Daan! Amazing sound!
Super! Great!!
Brilliant!
Bravo !!
This piece is fucking amazing and I really hope to play it sometime
great work - sounds amazing!
SWEET
Top!
👑🔥
I shall store this in my "videos for when people denigrate percussion" folder.
Awesome 🔥🔥
todo un Crack
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
🤩🤩🤩
Niceee❤
Beautiful! What types of drums did you use for this performance?
Lefima ´Aehnelt Pauke`
timpani was my favorite instrument to play in percussion. but i still laugh everytime i hear a pedal change. i can't take timpani seriously when they're glissando-ing all over the place
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Hi ! Bravo ! Is there also a version with orchestra ?? Thanks and again bravo !
Yes, there is one with orchestra and also an arrangement for symphonic wind band.
@@DaanDrum super, thanks !
Need more pitch bending pieces (glissando) for timpani.
I remember in school my director said having a tuning gauge was cheating 😂😂. Definitely limited the songs I could play.
😂😂
Now that was just amazing!!! Ive never heard any solo for timpani that was as jamming as this one. Awesome! Thunderous! Your accuracy on the tuning was perfect. Did you attempt this without the tuning gauges? Just wondering.
I´ve never tried it, but maybe I should! A lot of the tuning is on muscle memory, so maybe it is possible.
@@DaanDrum well you absolutely crushed this! when I was in college (35 years ago) I’d go to the music building late at night and set up 5 timpani in the large orchestra rehearsal room, turn only the spotlights covering just myself and the drums and practice my solo works but then later I’d just jam out and have fun. Nothing to this level, but still, being alone in huge room just enjoying myself making sonic thunder was great fun. Too bad we didn’t have cell phone cameras back then. 😂
Have you ever hear of the concerto for timpani & orchestra by Werner Tharichen? I got the piece from my teacher to play on my final Recital. Really neat piece and I wish I still had the orchestral recording. I do still have the piano reduction.
@@Ihitthings3 i finally found some time to listen to this concerto. Great piece, thank you for mentioning it!
I got a smile from reading your story 🙌 I think at some point, every young timpanist want to have such experiences and just keep on jamming those timps!
Great, Bravo👏👏👏👏
Notes?
Don`t let Terry Bozzio see that 🙃
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Are you using the French Grip or the German Grip?
More towards German, but it is a mix between lot of different influences!
Amazing rapid change of tuning! But where is the tape?
i think it means a tape as in an audio recording
I have a question, where can I get the tape? I bought the sheet music but I dropped the record and I can't mount the piece. Is there any chance to get just the track? Thank you and excellent presentation. :)
amazing, could you share how did you set up the mics to record this masterpiece?
the sound is super clear
I have put a mic above every single timpani, around 1,5m pointing towards the drum (like overheads). So this gave me the possibility to work with panning in the mix. Which give every timp some space and makes it more transparent in my opinion.
@@DaanDrum thanks a lot!
When do you do the rolls do you use single or double strockes?
They all look like singles but I can't speak for him
How long did it take you to achieve playing this piece?
I played this piece already a few times in concerts before, but I would say around 4-5 months for a first performance. Where I recommend to start very slow and very well thought about the tuning scheme, this piece is very motoric, so once it‘s in there it will stay there for the rest of your life!
What mallets did you use, or are they custom made for you ? Thanks
I used ‚FLGE 24.31.37‘ from Picarde, the Bart Jansen Series. In general I prefer leather mallets for this piece.
May I know a link where I can buy the sheet music?
store.prometheaneditions.com/products/planet-damnation
i would like to ask if it is possible to play this piece with four timpani?
I think it is possible, however you will need around 32‘‘ for the lowest timp (to a low Es) and around 20‘‘ for the highest (a high c)
@@DaanDrum oh thank you
@@sunnyi2711 I can verify its playable on 4 timp. 5 is just easier, you'll defiantly need to change some of the written drum numbers though in the sections its written in on the sheet music.
Nice.. not a fan of match grip for Tympani, but nice.
MUSE ahh beat I’m never gonna be able to do this
It looks hard but once you get the music it’s a lot easier. And you just feel it instead of trying to count. I’m currently playing this for a scholarship. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying it’s easy. But it just looks a harder than it is. At least in my opinion
now play it at 200bpm XD idk why but I'm dylan youtube will only call me "user" lol
The technical skill is incredible, but honestly it just doesn’t sound that good as a solo instrument