Quitting Kratom || Withdrawal [Taper Strategy]

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @huxleyginsberg13
    @huxleyginsberg13 2 года назад +13

    I'm almost at 4 months since my taper journey, and 3 months completely off Kratom. I took a month to get down from around 20-25gs per day to 0, and it was rough, but your videos really helped me during that time. Thanks for putting yourself out there, and to everyone just starting the journey, it definitely gets better.

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад +1

      Thank you and of course. Just like tapering, making videos gets easier over time haha. It’s great to hear of your progress and I’m glad I could help 👍

    • @lesterparker1594
      @lesterparker1594 Месяц назад

      I went from 30 to 40g a day and I’m down to 11. I just logged my usage, then took 1 less pill a day. I’m at a third of what I was using and I’ve had no withdrawals or bad side effects. Maybe a little muscle soreness but nothing serious. I should be down to nothing in a month or so. Wish me luck

  • @zebones777
    @zebones777 2 года назад +10

    I tapered down from 30 grams to like 15 and got down to like 10 did this for around a month .I'm on day 10 of quitting and I feel a little better today and I'm gonna keep going

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад +2

      Good to hear! Keep the strength.

  • @dieselpower4052
    @dieselpower4052 2 года назад +7

    I'm struggling pretty bad coming off. Your video helped. I have a long way to go and God willing I will get there. It's a lonely feeling and sometimes feels impossible, but your video has given me hope. Thanks for sharing. Once I am off this garbage I will never touch it again. It's ruined a lot of seas of my life.

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад +2

      Stick it out my man. It’s definitely hard but what other choice do you have? If you quit it’ll only prolong the inevitable and the pain. Keep focused on why you’re quitting and the benefit of how you’ll feel when you’re off of it. I’m glad to hear I can help through my videos

    • @loveistheanswer5924
      @loveistheanswer5924 Год назад +1

      Hi are you off the kratom? 🙂
      I think I know what you mean with the lonely feeling. Most people don't know how it Is and for me kratom is really isolating.
      What you mean with it ruined a lot of seas in your life? 🙂🤔

  • @irisrivera5111
    @irisrivera5111 2 года назад +3

    Hey nomad I think it's really cool and brave what you do revealing your dark side to help others come out of their Darkness God bless you my brother may we stay strong life's hard enough

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Iris 🙏 I appreciate your comments. God bless you as well friend.

  • @wjckc79
    @wjckc79 2 года назад +8

    The amino acid Agmatine works extremely well for tapering off. It helps reduce cravings and withdrawals. It's cheap too. EDIT: I should explain more. I take about 2,000 mg 20 or 30 minutes before a dose. It both greatly stretches out the experience, and dramatically (IMHO) reduces cravings for the next dose. I have been able to taper off by quite a lot in a short amount of time. So, while it is a potentiator, it also helps you get off it. Stem and vein kratom also help for tapering.

    • @raphaelness1239
      @raphaelness1239 2 года назад +1

      appreciate the tip. just ordered some and hope it helps! I was on 12-16g for 5+ years and ten years of overall usage. A few days back I decided I need to let it go and went down to 10 grams for 1 day, yesterday I managed to get by with 3g which I may continue today unless I can make it through with 2. Are you still on it? I ordered the Agmatine Nutricost powder

    • @Isabelleix9
      @Isabelleix9 Год назад

      I really hope you se this and can give some more info on how to use agmatine (I’m waiting on my order as I type this).
      I need to get out of my kratom addiction and tried cold turkey and it was the two worst days of my life, I couldn’t take it.
      At the moment I am tapering.
      I know you should at least half your dose of kratom while taking it but to my questions I take kratom 4 times a day, should I take agmatine before each dose? Could I skip a dose and just take agmatine? All tips are welcomed.

    • @TK-sz6nj
      @TK-sz6nj Год назад

      I agree these 2 things are massive helps

  • @raphaelness1239
    @raphaelness1239 2 года назад +3

    Yes, there are some differences in Kratom weight, however I found for the most part a whole level teaspoon is usually 2g. if y'all don't want to get a scale to weigh it out just get a set of measuring spoons. Just keep trying to use a smaller level spoon as you taper. Don't take over 1 tsp (2g) per dose if trying to taper. Then work down to level half tsp dose (1g) etc.

    • @BlastedOffRawPuerh88
      @BlastedOffRawPuerh88 2 года назад

      Facts

    • @barbieholler1263
      @barbieholler1263 2 года назад +1

      I disagree, my best tapering off Kratom came from doing 2 tsp’s at a time. Spread out over the day. Which brought me from 35-40 grams down to 20-25 grams. 10 tsp a day (depending on who you ask. Wether a tsp os 2 or 2.5). The less you take the quicker you have to dose agin to keep yourself comfortable in-between doses. The sweet spot is 2 tsp’s. Spread out. Once I start to have hot flashes I dose again. Or aches and pains. It’s easily brought my dose down. People taking more than 40 grams a day are wasting Kratom and it’s all mental. It’s not physical addiction at that dose. Your body can only absorb so much Kratom at a time anyway. So anyone taking 40 grams a day is only absorbing 25-30 GPD.

    • @doyoulikecrystalgel
      @doyoulikecrystalgel 2 года назад +1

      I would honestly just get a cheap counter weight (like the ones you find in a coffee shop), to be more accurate on measurements. That's what I did, and it helped me dial in my taper. I'm still in the middle of said taper (just started), but the scale REALLY helps. Especially if you're planning on reducing .5g of kratom everyday

  • @AR-do2ob
    @AR-do2ob Год назад +2

    I want so much to feel like a normal person again!!! Like I was before any kratom. I'm on my day 7ish. It's still not ok. No restless legs, but tired legs. And throat pain don't know why. I need my life back!

  • @jonathanphillips9637
    @jonathanphillips9637 16 дней назад

    Ive been taking daily for almost 6 years now, and I have tried multiple times to quit cold turkey...never made it past day two. I just started my tapering journey, and im hoping this will be easier. Ive cut my dosage my a little more than half...the withdrawals are uncomfortable between each dose, but manageable right now. Lets see how this goes. Luckily ive been taking capsules the whole time, so its easy for me to keep track of.

  • @jonathanphillips9637
    @jonathanphillips9637 13 дней назад

    Im tapering quickly. I went from about 26 to 28 gms to 10gms my first day...did that for two days, then dropped down to 8. On my second day of 8. Gonna drop to 6 tomorrow. The withdrawals have sucked, but they have been mostly bearable.

  • @chrissydeal8362
    @chrissydeal8362 2 года назад +7

    I take kratom. I've not had any withdrawal symptoms, everyone is different. But I feel a lot of it is psychological!

    • @wjckc79
      @wjckc79 2 года назад +1

      How long have you been taking it?

    • @chrissydeal8362
      @chrissydeal8362 2 года назад

      @@wjckc79 about three months

    • @sarahbacon9602
      @sarahbacon9602 2 года назад +11

      You should stop while your ahead

    • @justinwalker5441
      @justinwalker5441 2 года назад

      I took it for 3 months with royal kratom 500mg caps, definitely had withdraws. The withdraws were worse when focused on the withdraws so I do agree that it is mostly mental for me as well, but definitely has some physical withdraws as well.
      I just took opms gold extracts 25 days in a row sometimes twice a day. I quit yesterday and the only withdraws I had were crappy body temperature control issues, and it was kinda hard to fall asleep but once I was asleep no problems. Day 2 I woke up feeling great, no withdraws whatsoever it's very surreal. Lol
      But yeah during the 25 day binge I did notice my attitude got alot more crappy, it was alot harder to want to get up and get out of bed. I was late to work basically on day 7 and onward as well. So I am lucky to have my job still, kratom can be useful when used responsibly but as a recreational drug it's a no go. Stay free ladies and gents!!

    • @NeckNotes
      @NeckNotes Месяц назад

      Oh you will

  • @DMTmates
    @DMTmates 2 года назад +6

    Was up to 30-40 gpd as of last week. Two days cold turkey and it was hell. I broke and got 1 ounce and took 5g in the morning then 5g later that night. Which allowed me to sleep and actually go back to work. I don't have the patience to do a long taper but this is helping. I'm going to go 5g in the am then 4g in the pm. Then each day drop a gram off one of the doses so I can drop it without much pain. Having kids and a life makes it a challenge but I refuse to be a slave to anything except God or whatever divinity truly is. How can we find the truth while being high all the time haha

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад +1

      I’m glad you’ve taken the first steps to freeing yourself. Thanks for sharing

    • @barbieholler1263
      @barbieholler1263 2 года назад +3

      “Whatever divinity truly is”. You know God exist or you would t have mentioned him in the first place. Instead of sugar coating the truth you know about him. Be straight forward and don’t shy away from your beliefs. After all, he’s your saving grace and he is the truth. If any one or any thing can help. It’s him. Pray and don’t be afraid to admit your faith in a crowd.

    • @DMTmates
      @DMTmates 2 года назад

      @@barbieholler1263 I know without a shadow of a doubt that God exists from my experiences so far in life. Omniscient Omnipotence Omnipresent. The body is light we are immortal. The body is light we are eternal. We are the very Word of God. A cosmic voice which condensed us into being with a divine vibrational pattern. If your ever able to find perfect stillness and quiet you can hear it's sound creating everything

    • @Matpan730
      @Matpan730 Год назад

      ​@JoeFarrier-ft3hyit's fine brother you'll get there soon enough. Quiting anything heavily addictive is all about the right time and when you're ready and stable enough to do so. Remember there's no time limit either. As long as you can eventually get off is what's important. Our bodies and minds are all completely different. So in reality there is no perfect way to quit anything because what works for me might not work for you. Main thing though brother don't ever think or say you can't quit because you definitely can! Sometimes it's just not the right time in a person's life to take on such a difficult task but you'll definitely get off that's what you need to focus on. I wish you the best in your journey and start mentally strong because that's 80% of the battle of quitting anything

  • @daynakoenig7676
    @daynakoenig7676 2 года назад +7

    How much were you taking when you actually jumped off? Did you have bad withdrawals? I’m tapering and wonder how low I should go before I jump. Trying to stay at about 6gm right now from being at around 25ish. I’ve tried to taper before and was unsuccessful. Hopefully this time 🤞🏼🙏🏼
    I’m sick of being a slave to K

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад +7

      I think I mentioned in this video that I got down to about 6gpd but then I went back up to 10gpd. I couldn’t manage to taper below 10gpd and stay below 10gpd. So when I went back up to 10gpd I just made the jump instead of trying to taper. The scariest part is right before you make the jump. It’s the truth. Every time I tried to quit something the most fear is always before you actually do it. Just do it, you’ll be fine.

    • @mylord4321
      @mylord4321 2 года назад

      There is a product called King kradom
      Orange in color cost 10 dollars a oz.
      Mixs well with juices
      It last you to 6 hours
      Im going to tapper of this
      Product .
      5 years i have done them all mitt 45
      Opms, small black bottle
      Opms pills gold black all of them. But its time to say bye bye. Need to divorce Kradom from my life .
      I started with GREEN POWER BUT IT TASTE LIKE SHIT.......
      ALL THIS IN LIFE START AS FUN AND GAMES BUT SOME THINGS BE COME
      SERIOUS SHIT.
      TIME TO PAY THE PIPER
      AND THIS TO WILL PASS..

  • @MartinDungey-wb1df
    @MartinDungey-wb1df Год назад

    United We Stand

  • @jimbof20able
    @jimbof20able 2 года назад +2

    In the middle of a slow taper myself. I don’t even know how much I was taking a day so I had to get that figured out first, even though it was way more I went w 30g as a starting point and did that for a few days just to get a baseline…I came up w my own taper schedule and am currently down to 14g..Haven’t had a single issue yet but I just wonder once I get down under 10 if it will still be easy…If anyone wants the schedule let me know as I couldn’t really find any help w that…Basically I drop .5 every other day…dose 5 times a day, (wake,10am,2pm,6pm,bed)….and every other day basically rotate which time I take .5 off….I started w 10g at wake up and 5g the other 4 doses..Currently at 4.5 at wake,2.5 at 10,2, and bed time…and 2g at 6pm….tomorrow I’ll be at 2g for bed…Wish me luck

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад

      Good luck bro. I hope you’re keeping with it. I would recommend doing whatever you feel the most comfortable with. Once I was at 10gpd, I went cold turkey and it wasn’t as bad as the taper. The reason I went cold turkey from 10 is because I couldn’t manage to taper below that. I always wanted more.

    • @jimbof20able
      @jimbof20able 2 года назад +1

      @@theNomadWay. yes. I’m now at 12g. (4 when I wake…2 4x through out day)….Tues will be down to 11.5 and then 11 on Thursday…Hopefully goes ok. Thanks

  • @bluestar7757
    @bluestar7757 2 года назад +2

    Hey nick this is kind of off subject but I like the music you play in the background specifically the 1st song in your first video can I get the name of song?
    Currently on a taper it’s been hard but not impossible it’s only been 1 week and dropped 6 grams got a ways to go but I’m hoping in a month to completely quit I could use all the prayers I can get
    The hot cold sweats headaches irritability bad skin I can handle it’s the anxiety panic lack of appetite nausea insomnia and body aches and the fear I won’t succeed that I am have a hard time dealing with

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад

      Hey there! The taper for me was the hardest part and the hardest part only lasts for so long trust me. It’ll get better before you know it.

  • @mustanggt3012
    @mustanggt3012 2 года назад +1

    im 54 and ive been on kratom for 3 years, i quit my factory job that i worked at for 25 years and took a year off from working ive spent most of my 401k on just living and paying bills and now i have to get my shit together or lose everything i have . i dont want to sell things that ive bought over the years of working and i want to get my life back ,ive been tapering down and im at 12 gpd . i feel i need to get it way more down than that to jump off . how much more do you think i should go till i just quit it all ? im scared because i tryed before to just stop and i couldnt sleep and i had alot of other problems with withdrawls it sucked .im so ashamed of myself for letting myself get in this predicament :( thank you for making these videos its giving me hope

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад +2

      It sucks that’s for sure and sorry to hear about the situation. It’s up to you for when to decide to jump. I jumped from 10 gpd. I was afraid before I did it but after I did it, it wasn’t so scary. All you can do is be positive and take it day by day my friend. Good luck 👍

    • @jaytoz667
      @jaytoz667 Год назад +1

      Hey I feel you and am in a similar way lately. I hope you're doing okay.

  • @josephwick444
    @josephwick444 Год назад

    I Tapered from 30g a day to 3g a day now down to 2 grams I did this in a 2 week period..this withdrawal wasn't shit compared to fentynol or heroin

  • @anthonyc7300
    @anthonyc7300 Год назад +1

    The time is now. Jesus is King.

  • @jamesholida4337
    @jamesholida4337 2 года назад +2

    Hi nick, three day's off this garbage.. it's rough..

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад

      Hey James! Congratulations on your progress. 3 days is awesome. Keep pushing through, you’ll feel much better and it’ll be so worth it after it’s over trust me.

  • @BigShaneGillis
    @BigShaneGillis Год назад +1

    It’s not a powerful drug if you can’t kick a gas station drug there’s a strong chance there’s nobody in your life who takes you’re seriously

  • @tacthemac1366
    @tacthemac1366 2 года назад +2

    How many days until fully recovered? I’m on day 32 now

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад +2

      On day 32, you should feel better. I was good after about a month. If you’ve made it that far, do not go back lol. It’ll only keep getting better and better until one day you’ll forget about it completely.

  • @doyoulikecrystalgel
    @doyoulikecrystalgel 2 года назад +2

    Idk if it's hard for some to get, but I HIGHLY recommend Gabapentin for sides. I'm currently on a rapid taper from 35gpd, and immediately got sides night 1. I've been taking Black Cumin Seed Oil, Zinc, Magnesium, MEGA dosing LIPOSOMAL Vitamin C, and 300mg of Gaba a night. The gaba is what's helping put me to sleep. I sleep through the night sweats and the restless legs. I got my quitting plan through r/quittingkratom (the men and women on there are actual saints I tell you).

    • @rolandcox5162
      @rolandcox5162 Год назад

      If you think kratom is bad, gabapentin is worse.

  • @steve-tk5zv
    @steve-tk5zv 2 года назад +3

    I had raging kratom addiction stem an vain takes away most of withdrawal ! Take half kratom half stem an vain

    • @ManiacInTheShed
      @ManiacInTheShed 2 года назад +2

      Yes because you are still taking Kratom if you are taking stem and vein!

  • @bluestar7757
    @bluestar7757 2 года назад +1

    How bad was your appetite? I’m finding I have NO appetite I’m losing a ton of weight

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад

      Yea 100%. I couldn’t eat at all when I was tapering. When I went cold turkey from 10gpd to 0 I was able to eat. The stomach definitely needs time to adjust

    • @bluestar7757
      @bluestar7757 2 года назад

      When you went CT you were able to eat as opposed to tapering ? I would think it would be the other way around …another question if you don’t mind how soon after CT could you eat ?

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад

      @@bluestar7757 I tapered to 10gpd from 21gpd in November. I went home for Christmas and kept using 10gpd until January when I was back away from family. So I had like a few weeks to a month for my body to completely get used to being at 10gpd. I think this is why my taper was much worse than dropping to 0 from 10gpd. I couldn’t eat while tapering at all. It got better after maybe a week. It was a few days at least. I had to force myself to eat veggies, fruits, and yogurt. I don’t recall having any trouble with eating after I went cold turkey.

    • @bluestar7757
      @bluestar7757 2 года назад

      Thanks nick I really appreciate the feed back and advice …I just have 1 more question did you stick with the same vendor same strain while tapering? I’ve heard conflicting advice to switch stains and to stick with the same one…
      I remember you talking about how you went from 22 to 10 then back up around Christmas time I’ve watched all of your kratom videos I had a similar experience but mine was due to a 3week illness I had recently that set me back big time it’s so frustrating but I’m determined to quit
      Anyways thanks again have a blessed day

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад

      @@bluestar7757 I stuck with the same vendor. I think I switched to red instead of white but honestly I’m not so sure it mattered.

  • @JohnAdams-rm7zm
    @JohnAdams-rm7zm Год назад

    I need to stop kratom can I just switch to Norco to get off?

    • @Yes_Anastasia
      @Yes_Anastasia Год назад

      lol. NO! Definitely don’t do that. Just do a slow taper and you’ll be absolutely fine.

  • @MartinDungey-wb1df
    @MartinDungey-wb1df Год назад +1

    Hi Nick -

  • @brockgeorge6437
    @brockgeorge6437 Год назад +1

    Anyone want to be my quit buddy?

    • @timothydantonio6271
      @timothydantonio6271 Год назад

      Tapering right now...

    • @brockgeorge6437
      @brockgeorge6437 Год назад

      @@timothydantonio6271 How much were you at per day? For me it waa 16-8 grams. Currently down to 12 but struggling to go lower.

  • @MartinDungey-wb1df
    @MartinDungey-wb1df Год назад

    333

  • @Edward.Rippett.
    @Edward.Rippett. 2 года назад +1

    Bro when i first got clean off opiates a year and a half ago, and started taking kratom, I quickly got out of control and I was taking upwards of 6 ounces a day no joke

  • @Man-u-flex
    @Man-u-flex 2 года назад

    I’m on 6 capsules a day which I believe is 3 grams and I been at this dose for almost 2 months and I’m still feeling withdrawls and I don’t get it when I’m at such a low dose for two months after being on like 60-80 caps a day…. Wtf

    • @Man-u-flex
      @Man-u-flex 2 года назад

      @@DavidSmolej I’m trying to make sense of what your saying but I Just can’t.

  • @Uglypugger
    @Uglypugger 2 года назад +1

    I would take 9tablespoons of powder in the morning. When I would get home I would take another 9 tablespoons and then just take probably another 7 tablespoons while I was playing games or whatever until I would go to bed. I took it like this for 4 years. Day 3 of coldturkey and complete loss of appetite, stomache ache, and severe restlessness have been my worst symptoms. Today my stomache feels alot better from the day before and I got some restless leg medicine from Walmart that allowed me to sleep some last night. Thanks for making this video its nice to not feel alone during our life journey.

    • @theNomadWay.
      @theNomadWay.  2 года назад

      You’re welcome Shawn! Keep pushing through, you will win the fight as long as you don’t quit. I’m glad I can provide some small assurance through video that things will be okay in the end. Thanks for watching.

    • @mustanggt3012
      @mustanggt3012 2 года назад

      what was the restless legs syndrome medicine you bought from walmart ?

    • @Uglypugger
      @Uglypugger 2 года назад

      @@mustanggt3012 I took " Hylands Restful Legs PM." Someone in another video said you can take the Hylands Leg Cramps pills too and it works as well. Good luck on your restless legs, it's an annoyance I wouldn't wish on anyone.

    • @mustanggt3012
      @mustanggt3012 2 года назад +1

      @@Uglypugger thank you so much for responding . did you buy it at walmart ?

    • @Uglypugger
      @Uglypugger 2 года назад

      @@mustanggt3012 Yes. I dont remember the specific medicine that was surrounding it , but it was over in the medicine section of Walmart.