Bro thank you, I’ve been trying to relearn my rogue since 10.0.5 and after looking through every RUclips video , rogue discord, watching jpc …. Your video really made a huge difference for me much appreciated 🙏
I quit during BfA and I returned to Dragonflight because I heard of this expansion being a promising time to return. I've never race changed so fast my Rogue from a Troll to a Tauren in such a quick time.
Subbed to you. Thanks for keeping things informational and to the point without trying to draw out the video. An honest RUclipsr earns an honest following.
Been tanking since end of Legion and now recently swapped to dps, thank you for the great guides and commentary... Follow and sub for sure, keep up the great work!!!
Heya, Thanks for all the recent vids, they have helped me improve loads, would you use a 408 controlled technique over a 421 icon for m+? Am using either boon or whetstone as my staple trinket atm, not sure which to pair it with. Thanks again for all the great content! Subbed right after watching the 1st video! PS I can never seem to see you online on twitch although I am following, would like to watch some live stuff! Wish you great success!
hey! im glad you like the videos :) i would recommend simming the 408 cct vs 421 icon - icon is a very strong trinket on it's own, so it woudlnt surprise me if it beats out 408 cct even without other icon users in your party. I'm also streaming on twitch right now :) i try to stream everyday if possible, but hard to get groups going and i dont want to just stream me sitting in lfg all day lol Ill probably make sundays my zero to hero stream day and maybe throw in an extra day or 2 depending on the week and my availability and so on
Love the videos mate good job. I do have a question occasionally I get droughts of process and run low on energy, is that natural or and I not managing buffs and cd's properly?
@SupaRich89 most common case of energy starvation is from not cycling vanish and shadow dance properly, you need to prio vanish >sd, as your main stealth bar access tool. You could also be refreshing blade flurry too often, or using sinister strike even when you have a proc available. If youre using SD before vanish, as well as doing either of those other things i mentioned, that could be why youre getting energy starved. I notice i only get starved if i mess up and press shadow dance while i have vanish available.
Hey Churpie great video here! Should you continue to hold Vanish/Dance until you do not have any procs or should these be used even if we have an active FTH proc now? This is something I've heard from other sources.
Hey Churpie nice vid I wanted to know your thoughts about perking only once Fan the Hammer so we can have 2 points on Count the Odds. Even with one point, Fan the Hammer can be stacked up to 6 so we have potentially 3 procs and thus 3 buffed dispatch with the 4P. Also want to know if playing Summarily Dispatched could be viable or not with Echoing instead of Cold Blood ?
There are plenty of "viable" builds, and at the end of the day, if you're not pushing the highest level of content, play whichever build is the most fun for you. I only play whatever is "the best" because I need to squeeze out every little bit of damage possible to try and time the top level of keys that im pushing. If you're not also doing the same thing, you can play whichever build you prefer.
Interesting build! Just a question though, lets say you get 2-3 buffs for 10 sec in the opener from stealth + Shadow Dance, what's next? Are you getting that much value from CtO? Subscribed and will watch your future videos, thanks!
Whats next is you continue to cycle your vanish and shadow dance as they come up to try to get as many rtb buffs as possible through ambush and dispatch. You just continue with your rotation of building and spending in the most efficient way possible based on what procs(pistol or ambush) that you get
Hey m8. I was looking how to improve ST on tyr weeks. Why not dropping dancing steel and giving it into count hte odds? I mean blade flurry duration shouldnt be a problem in most cases and ofc wouldnt go that in academy or anywhere where massive pulls are planned?
Dancing steel adds a very large amount of dmg to out overall. It's near impossible to drop without greatly hurting our throughput. There are also plenty of bosses that have multiple targets, so dropping dancing streel effectively lowers our boss dam in those scenarios too
Yes and no. I have my cold blood macrod onto dispatch for ease of use, but at 10+ targets, you technically want to cold blood your blade rush- it's a very minor dps increase, so i dont really bother with it and would rather just not have CB keybound and only send it on my dispatches
@@ChurpieTv Sounds good, before this I played path of exile where more than 3 buttons is considered alot so getting used to all the keybinds has been kinda brutal lmao. Build feels really good tho, I just gotta practice more. Rn I can only do about 65k overall in a nokhud so I'm kind of in a weird spot where I feel like i'm holding my friends back when I join them for anything 18+, but then when I pug on my own the groups are so dogshit I don't feel like I get good practice in.
@@robotrock909 ahh i understand. I think you would probably benefit a lot from just going to slam the aoe target dummies somewhere and practicing your rotation while keeping blade flurry up and making sure youre keeping BtE up on whichever target youre hitting. Those 2 things are where a lot of rogue players struggle, among other palces as well. Get comfortable with the rotation so you dont need to stare at your action bars and it becomes second nature and that will allow you focus on other things, like frontals, kicks, avoidable damage in general, and maintaining close proximity to the mobs youre hitting. Hope this helps :)
@@ChurpieTv Super helpful tyvm. Before I heard you stress the importance of having bte on your target in a previous video it wasn't something I was really thinking of like at all. So that tip alone as been a huge help in my awareness. I was getting pretty close to being able to do the rotation without thinking about it and then they changed it rip. Also I need to set up a mouse over interrupt because it feels like target switching to hit an interrupt then trying to switch back is where i'm losing the most dps.
@@robotrock909 yeah, mouse over kick is really useful - i personally just use a focus target kick and i set my focus target before i even go into a pull so i can kick the target without having to switch off my main target
idk why but sometimes when i get off stealth to deal ambush from subterfuge it doesnt work, i thought i had removed subterfuge from my talents but i didnt, only happening to me ??
strange - im not sure what the issue would be - what happens when you press the button? does a different ability come out, or do you just stand there doing nothing, and does it happen on pull, or when you use vanish only?
i just stand still doing nothing, i thought i wasn't invisible when i tried to use ambush but i really was in stealth and the subterfuge icon wasnt showing up like it was active
no, im not using hekili - for all my addons and weakauras, please check out the addon or weakauras videos on my channel, or join the discord - i have everything linked there
@mohab18 its a dif addon - same utility, different execution. In my addon video i explain what i use it for and how it isnt 100% accurate rotation wise so it isnt good to fully rely on
so i tried the sepsis build when FtH nerf happened, and it felt very medium. However, that was while still using greenskin instead of count the odds. It might be worth taking another look at again with sepsis + cto- ill give it a try again today or tomorrow, and if it goes well, ill post a video with it. If it doesn't feel good, i'll just leave it as is.
Do you still hold vanish and shadow dance until you're out of audacity and fth with this build procs or just ignore fth and send vanish/SD off cd now? I've seen some other people saying fth procs are lower prio with this build than vanish/SD now.
Fth procs are lower prio correct- ideally u want to make sure you send your first shadowdance within your first adrenaline rush window, so if you have procs lasting 15 seconds into adren, still send shadow dance before it runs out to try to milk out extra rtb buffs
you cant drop dancing steel - its the biggest dps increase we have on aoe
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@@ChurpieTv i meant raiding dam in bosses
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@@ChurpieTv also another question. I have a problem with dla. I have Good ilvl 401 rotation done Thanks to afenar and Now hekili and im always low dps. Even simulation shows me at 42 k on stationary fights. When there is lots of movement it drops to 20ish I have warched almost all guides read all and tried all and have no idea how to improve. Is there any coaching I could buy from you or someone other? Plz I’m perfectionist and I suck :(
Because the CoS ring is just not good except for on pure ST. You're much better off using a crit vers or crit mastery ring. You will get much more value out of either of those rings than you would with the CoS ring
this build solves the energy starvation that comes with greenskin, improves the overall flow of your gameplay, and allows you more freedom to use defensives or stuns without needing to pool energy for it. as for keep it rolling, its fine to play it, but its not as competitive for m+ as this build is
never drop heavy hitter - too valuable to lose as ambush and pistol shot make up such a large % of our overall damage. While the extra buff duration and chance is nice for the feel of the spec, it is a pretty large dps loss to drop heavy hitter. On the other hand, i do have a 2cto build that i use for strictly ST (terros) which i parsed a 98 on last night even with imperfect play
@@ChurpieTv most players are playing without heavy hitter right now. I would say the way to go is x2 CTO and no heavy hitter for tyranical, and +1 heavy hitter +1 CTO in fortified
@@NekoEdit i am not most players, my friend. I am Churpie. :) check the sims www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3FHpu2dkUNLLJmq3NaZ3k3 2cto is a dps loss in every way except for on pure ST
hey all my macros, including this one are on the discord - ill save you the footwork this time though ;) #showtooltip dispatch /cast cold blood /cast dispatch
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Bro thank you, I’ve been trying to relearn my rogue since 10.0.5 and after looking through every RUclips video , rogue discord, watching jpc …. Your video really made a huge difference for me much appreciated 🙏
that's awesome! im glad it helped
i had to sit back, this was an awesome vid.
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Content just keeps getting better and better!
Bro thank you so much! You narrowed it down that even I understood it !
Nice to see someone making great rogue content. Happily subscribed.
I quit during BfA and I returned to Dragonflight because I heard of this expansion being a promising time to return. I've never race changed so fast my Rogue from a Troll to a Tauren in such a quick time.
Yeah you definitely need to be tauren to do damage because that 0.1% gain is everything.
/s
You saying a Tauren does more dmg then an Orc would? What about the Orc's racial? Something im missing?
@@ElluzhinYT Tauren is higher because of 2% perma crit from Brawn racial.
Subbed to you. Thanks for keeping things informational and to the point without trying to draw out the video. An honest RUclipsr earns an honest following.
Thank you so much :) I appreciate the kind words
Nice video as always ! Really appreciate the content, keep up the good works !!
Love the video once again! Very straight to the point as always.
Been tanking since end of Legion and now recently swapped to dps, thank you for the great guides and commentary... Follow and sub for sure, keep up the great work!!!
Thank you so much! Plenty more content to come :)
Nice vid, helped me a lot as im trying to start learning to play rogue
Nice guide! I enjoy your videosand it helps me a lot. Keep it up! Liked & subscribed
fantastic thanks
I've just subscribed, I like your guides, very straightforward and detailed. I have a 395 Lariat necklace, is there any option for me to upgrade it?
Yeah u gotta do 10-14 or 16-20 keys to get infusions. Then setup recraft order :)
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Heya, Thanks for all the recent vids, they have helped me improve loads, would you use a 408 controlled technique over a 421 icon for m+? Am using either boon or whetstone as my staple trinket atm, not sure which to pair it with. Thanks again for all the great content! Subbed right after watching the 1st video! PS I can never seem to see you online on twitch although I am following, would like to watch some live stuff! Wish you great success!
hey! im glad you like the videos :)
i would recommend simming the 408 cct vs 421 icon - icon is a very strong trinket on it's own, so it woudlnt surprise me if it beats out 408 cct even without other icon users in your party.
I'm also streaming on twitch right now :) i try to stream everyday if possible, but hard to get groups going and i dont want to just stream me sitting in lfg all day lol
Ill probably make sundays my zero to hero stream day and maybe throw in an extra day or 2 depending on the week and my availability and so on
Great vid
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Love the videos mate good job.
I do have a question occasionally I get droughts of process and run low on energy, is that natural or and I not managing buffs and cd's properly?
Its bound to happen from time to time, but if youre cycling your cds properly and running the CTO build, it shouldn't happen too often
@@ChurpieTv it's not too often, but definitely more than what I feel it should be. Thanks for the quick reply :)
@SupaRich89 most common case of energy starvation is from not cycling vanish and shadow dance properly, you need to prio vanish >sd, as your main stealth bar access tool. You could also be refreshing blade flurry too often, or using sinister strike even when you have a proc available. If youre using SD before vanish, as well as doing either of those other things i mentioned, that could be why youre getting energy starved. I notice i only get starved if i mess up and press shadow dance while i have vanish available.
Hey Churpie great video here! Should you continue to hold Vanish/Dance until you do not have any procs or should these be used even if we have an active FTH proc now? This is something I've heard from other sources.
Even if you have an active FtH proc, it is still higher value to send vanish> shadow dance to get as high uptime on your rtb buffs as possible
great stuff m8!
Any chance I could get my hands on your weak aura?
Weakauras and addons are all posted in the discord
nice vid, keep up the good work
Thank you!
Hey nice Video. I have a question, at which seasons was you Rank 1? I dont know about your Name before dragonflight😅
i achieved rank 1 title in season 3 and 4 in SL - i also only started posting videos 3 weeks ago, so it makes sense that I'm not very known
Hey Churpie nice vid I wanted to know your thoughts about perking only once Fan the Hammer so we can have 2 points on Count the Odds. Even with one point, Fan the Hammer can be stacked up to 6 so we have potentially 3 procs and thus 3 buffed dispatch with the 4P. Also want to know if playing Summarily Dispatched could be viable or not with Echoing instead of Cold Blood ?
There are plenty of "viable" builds, and at the end of the day, if you're not pushing the highest level of content, play whichever build is the most fun for you. I only play whatever is "the best" because I need to squeeze out every little bit of damage possible to try and time the top level of keys that im pushing. If you're not also doing the same thing, you can play whichever build you prefer.
Interesting build! Just a question though, lets say you get 2-3 buffs for 10 sec in the opener from stealth + Shadow Dance, what's next? Are you getting that much value from CtO? Subscribed and will watch your future videos, thanks!
Whats next is you continue to cycle your vanish and shadow dance as they come up to try to get as many rtb buffs as possible through ambush and dispatch. You just continue with your rotation of building and spending in the most efficient way possible based on what procs(pistol or ambush) that you get
@@ChurpieTv Thanks for the reply, i will give it a try later, do you think it’s better on tyr or fort weeks?
@@themstrom it works very well on both weeks
Thanks for the video, is this build better than the old build since pistol shot got nerfed? Seems like a good passive but idk if it is better dps
It sims pretty equivalently with the old greenskin build, but the energy economy is so much better
Hey m8. I was looking how to improve ST on tyr weeks. Why not dropping dancing steel and giving it into count hte odds? I mean blade flurry duration shouldnt be a problem in most cases and ofc wouldnt go that in academy or anywhere where massive pulls are planned?
Dancing steel adds a very large amount of dmg to out overall. It's near impossible to drop without greatly hurting our throughput. There are also plenty of bosses that have multiple targets, so dropping dancing streel effectively lowers our boss dam in those scenarios too
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🐐💪 Is the play to macro cold blooded to another ability so they go off on the same gcd?
Yes and no. I have my cold blood macrod onto dispatch for ease of use, but at 10+ targets, you technically want to cold blood your blade rush- it's a very minor dps increase, so i dont really bother with it and would rather just not have CB keybound and only send it on my dispatches
@@ChurpieTv Sounds good, before this I played path of exile where more than 3 buttons is considered alot so getting used to all the keybinds has been kinda brutal lmao. Build feels really good tho, I just gotta practice more. Rn I can only do about 65k overall in a nokhud so I'm kind of in a weird spot where I feel like i'm holding my friends back when I join them for anything 18+, but then when I pug on my own the groups are so dogshit I don't feel like I get good practice in.
@@robotrock909 ahh i understand. I think you would probably benefit a lot from just going to slam the aoe target dummies somewhere and practicing your rotation while keeping blade flurry up and making sure youre keeping BtE up on whichever target youre hitting. Those 2 things are where a lot of rogue players struggle, among other palces as well. Get comfortable with the rotation so you dont need to stare at your action bars and it becomes second nature and that will allow you focus on other things, like frontals, kicks, avoidable damage in general, and maintaining close proximity to the mobs youre hitting. Hope this helps :)
@@ChurpieTv Super helpful tyvm. Before I heard you stress the importance of having bte on your target in a previous video it wasn't something I was really thinking of like at all. So that tip alone as been a huge help in my awareness. I was getting pretty close to being able to do the rotation without thinking about it and then they changed it rip. Also I need to set up a mouse over interrupt because it feels like target switching to hit an interrupt then trying to switch back is where i'm losing the most dps.
@@robotrock909 yeah, mouse over kick is really useful - i personally just use a focus target kick and i set my focus target before i even go into a pull so i can kick the target without having to switch off my main target
Hey! Thanks for the very good Video. Pls tell me the addon for the priolist or rotation? Thx a lot.
hey check out the addon video or join the discord - all addons and weakauras are posted there
idk why but sometimes when i get off stealth to deal ambush from subterfuge it doesnt work, i thought i had removed subterfuge from my talents but i didnt, only happening to me ??
strange - im not sure what the issue would be - what happens when you press the button? does a different ability come out, or do you just stand there doing nothing, and does it happen on pull, or when you use vanish only?
i just stand still doing nothing, i thought i wasn't invisible when i tried to use ambush but i really was in stealth and the subterfuge icon wasnt showing up like it was active
@@Renan-td8bn thats very strange. maybe create a new talent page and redo the talents..
@@ChurpieTv it was actually the macro with my trinket and adrenaline rush, if i use my trinket while invisible the subterfuge doesnt work :((
@@Renan-td8bn ah yes, u gotta use ambush THEN trinket
Is there a macro for both sinister strike and ambush? Like if ambush procs...itll override sinister strike? If not...that would be cool
Sadly there isn't. You need to have separate keybinds for them
Is that wa ability suggestion on your top roght side ?
hey check out the addon video on my page - theyre all linked in the description, also linked on my discord
As a new Rogue player, i feel like I am not managing Blade Rush properly, when is the optimal time to Blade Rush?
only when you are low on energy or right before you use shadow dance - otherwise you dont press it
Are you using Hekili? Or what is that addon with your rotation icons?
no, im not using hekili - for all my addons and weakauras, please check out the addon or weakauras videos on my channel, or join the discord - i have everything linked there
@@ChurpieTv You are usiing hekili/hero rotation in middle right of your screen? its literally the same
@mohab18 its a dif addon - same utility, different execution. In my addon video i explain what i use it for and how it isnt 100% accurate rotation wise so it isnt good to fully rely on
Since we dont use blade rush till we have to, what do you think about using sepsis? Since it also gives us 2 uses of stealth abilities?
so i tried the sepsis build when FtH nerf happened, and it felt very medium. However, that was while still using greenskin instead of count the odds. It might be worth taking another look at again with sepsis + cto- ill give it a try again today or tomorrow, and if it goes well, ill post a video with it. If it doesn't feel good, i'll just leave it as is.
@@ChurpieTv 🤞
@@walterruiz2130 OKAY so- i think its probably not worth - i ran some sims and you can see here, it looks like a pretty substantial dps loss
www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kmc7sKtQP8WXHsSf9yNgXS
@@ChurpieTv dang was hoping for some options. Ty brother
Do you still hold vanish and shadow dance until you're out of audacity and fth with this build procs or just ignore fth and send vanish/SD off cd now? I've seen some other people saying fth procs are lower prio with this build than vanish/SD now.
Fth procs are lower prio correct- ideally u want to make sure you send your first shadowdance within your first adrenaline rush window, so if you have procs lasting 15 seconds into adren, still send shadow dance before it runs out to try to milk out extra rtb buffs
@@ChurpieTv is vanish still first priority over dance?
@@harleymoore7736 yes it is because you can likely cycle back to it by the time u vanish->dance-> then have vanish up again shortly
@@ChurpieTv thanks a lot!
Forgot to ask, how do you track adrenaline rush?
It's on my afenar ui in the middle of my screen under my character
@Churpie Oh ok. Watching your outlaw guide made me a better rogue. Im 389 and can burst about 90+k and sustain 45k.
Why not drop right side and go deeper into mid one if you are not using pistol so mich anymore?
you cant drop dancing steel - its the biggest dps increase we have on aoe
@@ChurpieTv i meant raiding dam in bosses
@@ChurpieTv also another question. I have a problem with dla. I have Good ilvl 401 rotation done Thanks to afenar and Now hekili and im always low dps. Even simulation shows me at 42 k on stationary fights. When there is lots of movement it drops to 20ish
I have warched almost all guides read all and tried all and have no idea how to improve.
Is there any coaching I could buy from you or someone other? Plz I’m perfectionist and I suck :(
@PiotrPoznanski i do offer coaching, you can find the coaching requests channel on my discord(link in the description)
Why not using the auto hit ring in dungeoncontent?
Because the CoS ring is just not good except for on pure ST. You're much better off using a crit vers or crit mastery ring. You will get much more value out of either of those rings than you would with the CoS ring
what addon do you use for rotatation?
checkout the addon video on my channel for the pros and cons of the rotation addon - it has all the links for the addon downloads as well :)
What are you stat priorities
crit>vers>mast>haste
But why you should play this build instead of greenskin or even keep it rolling
this build solves the energy starvation that comes with greenskin, improves the overall flow of your gameplay, and allows you more freedom to use defensives or stuns without needing to pool energy for it. as for keep it rolling, its fine to play it, but its not as competitive for m+ as this build is
BTW You should drop Heavy hitter and take 2 points into CTO in RAID, better st ^^
never drop heavy hitter - too valuable to lose as ambush and pistol shot make up such a large % of our overall damage. While the extra buff duration and chance is nice for the feel of the spec, it is a pretty large dps loss to drop heavy hitter. On the other hand, i do have a 2cto build that i use for strictly ST (terros) which i parsed a 98 on last night even with imperfect play
@@ChurpieTv most players are playing without heavy hitter right now.
I would say the way to go is x2 CTO and no heavy hitter for tyranical, and +1 heavy hitter +1 CTO in fortified
@@NekoEdit i am not most players, my friend. I am Churpie. :) check the sims www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3FHpu2dkUNLLJmq3NaZ3k3
2cto is a dps loss in every way except for on pure ST
@@ChurpieTv Sims different for me, also u're not simming dungeon slice
@@NekoEdit never sim dungeon slice - it is highly inaccurate for our spec
Hey can you show me your macro for Dispatch and coldblood pls? :D
hey all my macros, including this one are on the discord - ill save you the footwork this time though ;)
#showtooltip dispatch
/cast cold blood
/cast dispatch
Thanks Brother :D
1.3k views and only 75 likes... I wonder why =/
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@@ChurpieTv Don't be sad mate! Keep it up!
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