What exactly did they do? They were snobs of course. But Lorelai was a wild child! She acted just like a lot of rich kids who have everything. Running around screwing everything and when she got pregnant she just ups and leaves. Now she is upset because Chris is staying by this woman who he got pregnant. That is what you are supposed to do. Rich girls are funny sometimes. When they have everything, they crave drama, misery, chaos, and pain. Her life was miserable because she made it miserable and Rory turned around and followed right in her footsteps! 😮🤫👏🤔
@@bobbiking2123 Disagree. She was not shown love, affection or emotional support by her parents during that extremely difficult time, and in the end she left to do what was best for her. Not saying she did it in the most mature way, but she was 16. Do you remember when Emily was screaming at her while she was literally in labour? How can anyone thrive in an environment like that? And I completely disagree that she had a miserable life. She was a very positive person who literally left to create her dream life and was happy - shouldn't we praise her for that? Isn't that what we're all trying to do? So she built a good life for herself and was happy and yet her parents resented her for it, which is not the role of a parent. Parents are supposed to want their child to be happy, not just to uphold their reputation and image.
Everything Christopher does they all blame on loralai. Who was stopping Christopher from being a father to Rory? And why would you want a 16 year old girl to get married? Everything is about appearances for Richard and Emily.
I agree, you don't need to be married to the woman to be a father, you just need to be there. Christopher could have visited or called. Just because Lorelai refused to marry him doesn't mean he should stop being present in Rory's life.
But the thing we all miss is we don't know if Chris tried and lorelai stopped it it has never been confirmed why Chris wasn't part of rory's life when she was a child. Who knows maybe Chris didn't want to raise rory in stars hollow maybe he wanted to raise her elsewhere but lorelai didn't agree. The truth is we don't know as Amy never confirmed the back story. So it is a bit wrong to say Chris is totally at fault when it comes to being absent as we don't know the full story
Poor Lorelai :( Richard was always so vitriolic towards her whenever it came to Christopher. He held her past against her whilst giving Christopher a free pass on everything just because he followed the 'plan' and she didn't. Christopher was a horrible father to Rory but that wasn't Lorelai's fault. He dipped in and out of their lives whenever he saw fit, who's to say it wouldn't have been a similar story had they gotten married when young.
Well, we can't tell. There was no Giggi on the revival. I would have loved to see how Giggi turned out. That would have given a good insight in how Christopher was doing at parenting
@@mariak9397 true but I was basing it on his parenting of Rory and relationship with Lorelai. I found it sad that he might be a better father to Gigi because he essentially got a 'do-over' with his father-daughter relationship but Rory would never get that. Gigi was his character growth so that's commendable but it doesn't cancel out how wrong he'd been towards lorelai and Rory and how Richard only ever blamed Lorelai :(
@@mariak9397 In the revival they touched upon Gigi. Christopher said that she is living in Paris and turning into a real French girl, which implies that once Gigi went to Paris she stayed there.
This is one of the reasons why I would have liked more flashbacks with 16 years old Lorelai and Chris. She turned him down, but did he really put up a fight? Did he think about going with her when she ran off to Stars Hallow? Did he know where she was during that time, and knowingly stay away? Or did he find out later? I'm just so curious about the specifics and how much Lorelai really did keep Rory to herself in those early years.
She turn him down cause no 16 year old should be forced to get married when they have a kid. You can tell Chris didn't want to get married or be a dad when they where starring at Rory in the hospital. If they got married they where be so miserable and be divorced by time Rory was 2.
Because they never listen to her. They think they know best ALWAYS. It's why she left in the first place. I would have done the same thing in that environment.
i hate how everyone ignores these kind of scenes, they all say that lorelai was a bad daughter and treat her parents like crap and Richard and Emily were the good guys. They blame everything on her when most of the time Christopher has all the fault, they think they have every right to interfere in her life and treat her like a teenager when she’s already a grown woman, they don’t let her make her own decisions, they want to control her life. This might be controversial but parents need to understand that at the second their child has a family (is married or have kids) as much as it hurts, they aren’t the immediate family anymore. Lorelai doesn’t own them anything, she has every right to not wanting her parents interfering in her personal life.
I agree with most of your comment except for the part where you say she doesn’t owe her parents anything. Are you kidding me??? You mean her mother who carried her for 9 months and went through pain and difficulty to bring her into this world. And then raised her (yes I’m sure she made a lot of mistakes as a mother but regardless), you owe your parents so much, in fact, you could never “repay” them for all the sacrifices they’ve made for you. They literally spend most of their money on you, nurture you, raise you. And then when you’re old enough and become an independent adult you owe them nothing? No one is more important than them (with the exception of your children because they’re helpless) not even your husband.
@@purplefire5 you're vastly discounting the weight emotional abuse has on a child. financially supporting your child is not reason enough for someone to allow themselves to be constantly humiliated, especially by those meant to nurture you. parent-child rs are complicated, and if the child believes it best to separate themselves as means for survival or to feel more joy, then so be it.
@@shivaane99 I wasn't responding to someone cutting their parents out of their life because they were emotionally or physically abused nor does providing for your kids justify that. Read my comment, I was responding to @Silvana Rogel and I will reiterate that I agree with most of her comment EXCEPT where she says: "This might be controversial but parents need to understand that at the second their child has a family (is married or have kids) as much as it hurts, they aren’t the immediate family anymore. Lorelai doesn’t own them anything..." That's what I was replying to and it's complete and utter bullshitttt, your parents are just as important as your kids and husband if not more so.
this really shows how much they disregard lorelai and her opinions and feelings. She literally leaves, and they both keep fighting about her life and keep debating whether she should fight for christopher or not.
This man just doesn't seem to grasp the concept that Lorelai didn't want to marry Chris 16 years ago, (or he does and he just doesn't give a rat's ass about his own daughter's unhappiness, I dunno which one's worst) sad really. A marital status doesn't fix a couple's problems. Something Lorelai should've known as well when she: "if only Luke accept to marry me everything will go back on track" on season 6.
This makes me physically sick, how can they be so shitty and blame everything on their own daughter when she clearly did the right thing and this bozo continually screws her over. This is an accurate testament to how culture is so sexist and biased towards men even at the expense of logic.
She clearly says it 2:51 _"I'm not doing this lightly, In fact I'm not doing anything at all"_ Yet here they are, blaming Lorelai because another adult woman got pregnant and decided to keep the baby. And since the guy (Chris) who knocked her up wants to marry her and raise the child that makes it culturally and socially awarded while the single mother gets the shame.
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Everyone seems to like jumping on Rory, Emily, and Lorelai's case for being the worst character but I think that award goes to Richard Gilmore. Not only does he not have any moral values in his business dealings (what he did to Jason), not only does he act like he's above everyone (how he was to Dean), but the fact that he let's his mother treat Emily, the way she does is unforgivable... But ofcourse he gets away with it because he's a man and always so cheerful... Its a good thing he wasn't in the revival (the character I mean) and I think Emily matured much more as a character not having to deal with the gilmores any more...
I think Emily earned the way Trix treats her. It’s the same way she treated all of Lorelai’s partners except Chris so I for one am glad she got some of that treatment back.
I never understood what the big deal was... they all act like they were together for months or something... they hooked up for one night and decided to be together then the next day Chris found out sherry was pregnant...
Yes, but with their history, that was actually a big step. They always knew they wanted to end up together, it was Lorelai basically waiting for Christopher to get his life together and be able to be a father..
@@lauriecarson6483 how so? i'm talking basically about the first three seasons. She even called him during her bachelorette party when she was engaged to Max.
Even though this scene is horrible for Lorelai it is one of my favorite Richard & Emily disagreements. Emily: So you support this? Richard: I understand this. Emily: I am appalled by your attitude! Richard: And I am shocked by your naivety... It's like Shakespeare. They were titans on this show. So good
God if i were Lorelai id walk out too How dare Richard throw her past in her face like that! She was 16 for crying out loud she didnt want marriage she wanted to raise a healthy child and she did just that so be proud of her and get the fuck over it!
Why would Lorelei do something if she doesn’t want to? I get so mad at her parents in the show. They treat her like absolute garbage. And then blame everything on her. I wouldn’t go around such toxic people. I don’t care if they paid for my daughters school or not. It’s extremely unhealthy. No wonder she didn’t talk to them for years.
Basically they always blamed her for not wanting to get married. So this entire situation stems from what she never did years ago. And I don't know any grandparent that wouldn't hold a grudge from you raising your granddaughter in a shed
1:51 If they summered or whatever in Marthasvineyard, they would go at the same time as other DAR members, which means that Emily and Richard probably socialized with the Huntzbergrers because they have a place in Martha's Vineyard. So this scone mix (meant to evoke a cottage core, demure, Donna Reed aesthetic) could be a gift from the Huntzbergers to the Gilmores, when really it was a gift from Mitchum to Rory saying that she is on his radar, maybe as a prospective wife for his heir? Emily does gossip, what if she mentioned the Donna Reed dress up incident with Dean to the DAR, as it would present Rory as Demure, so this gift is also a nod to the fact they have been keeping tabs on gossip about Rory for awhile I think Rory would have figured that out, even if Lorelie didnt (or pretended not to), and I think Emily knew if she just gave Rory the gift she could piece it together 1:47 and I think something in the tone of voice of both Richard and Emily sounds similar to when they tried to convince Lorelei that she was reading into things with the Huntzbergers
In my opinion, Emily may do a lot of…questionable things, but Richard tends to support those questionable things. Also Emily for better or worse is always trying to be in Rory and lorelais lives (ie the Friday night dinners)
they always wanted to force her to be with christopher but that’s not who she wanted regardless of them having a daughter together, i realized they never understood her
No Richard wasn't right all. Chris had his chance to be a father to Rory but he didn't. Chris could have fought Lorelai for joint custody but he didn't do that. Chris ram away from his responsibility Lorelai didn't. So no Richard wasn't right.
Everyone's hating on Richard but he's right, Loralsi did push Christopher a way. She ran off with his baby for god's sack, idk why people think she's so innocent.
are you being serious? lorelai not marrying christopher doesn’t equal lorelai stopping him from being a father to rory. that is absolutely ridiculous. chris viewed rory as an extension of lorelai; the only time he wanted to be near her was when it was able to get him closer to lorelai. the first time christopher deigned to visit rory at her house was when she was 16, even though he was fully capable of visiting her any time before that. you can co parent a child without being a couple. christopher just chose not to.
@@fairypjm3603 She didn't have to marry him, but she didn't have to sneak out and run away. How long did it take for Lorelai to tell Chris where she was? A day? A year- five years? Like, I get it, it's a feminist show so everyone feels obligated to give Lorelai a free pass for everything, but the fact is that she can't set Chris up to be a "deadbeat" by running away with his kid and take God knows how long to inform him where they're at, and then cry that he didn't "try harder".
@@infinitum8558 tell me how long did it take Chris to set foot in Stars Hallow when Rory was there. We all dont know what went on when Lorelai and Rory moved to Stars Hallow. All we see is that Lorelai took responaiblity for her action and Chris didnt. Chris could have fought Lorelai and co parent with Lorelai but he didnt. Chris could have gotten a job closer to Rory and could have been there and help supoorted her but he didn't. Getting married at 16 is stupid and it dont aolve crap. The only reason why Chris wanted to do the right thing is because her and his parents told him too. He didn't want that and it showed. So all that crap you said about Lorelai was not true. And how would you know that Lorelai didnt tell Chris right away.
@@infinitum8558 Hahahahahaha 😂how do you know it was a day? A year? Five years? It could've been 5 days, five weeks, five months. By all means share it. Not to mention that running away from her parents isn't the same as running away from her boyfriend. Just because she didn't tell them where she was doesn't mean she didn't tell him. You are just assuming the worst in order to defend him (what? You think we wouldn't notice? Aww that's cute) Unlike you I'm just guessing,unless you have a secret piece of information that we don't. Me on the other hand I do have a piece of information to back me up. Chris: _I haven't been enough part of Rory's life. So I wanna be around more, be another pal she can depend on. I mean, I'm not crazy. I know there's already a life going on here, and god knows she doesn't need anyone besides you. But if you give me a chance..._ Lorelai: _I've always had the door to Rory open for you._ Chris: _I know._ (why do I get the feeling that this is the part of the conversation that you will conveniently ignore) Lorleai: _You've hardly ever used it._ Chris: _Well, I wanna use it now._ Gilmore Girls s1e15 - Christopher Returns And I can't stop wondering if this is a feminist show, then why do the fans still condemn all the wrong things that the female characters have done? Like when Sherry ran away and left Gigi with Christopher, or when Nicole cheated on Luke, or Rory cheating on Dean, or Lorelai leaving Max (free pass you say?), or the time that everyone applauded Rory for condemning Loreli for sleeping with Chris after Luke didn't elope with her (seriously, free pass?) Hahahahahahaha 🤣, but yeah clearly we give the women here free passes.
By all means, how did she stop him? Is there a restraining order or a fight for Rory's custody that they secretly had (and that you magically find out?)
@@lauriecarson6483why was it up to lorelai to fight for Chris to be in Rory’s life if he wanted to he would it was up to Chris he was never a good father
I always thought Gilmore Girls was a harmless TV show. I am starting to see that this show has raised a generation of fatherless feminists who are narcissistic and as Richard put it: "Lorelai never thinks about the consequences of her actions on other people." This show should be banned in North America and come with a warning label: Will convince women that they are the center of the universe and their actions should never be questioned by anyone, not by parents, family, church, society. A woman is an island all to herself. This show is the cause of millions of divorces in our country. We have a real problem in our society with women refusing to take any responsibility or accountability for their actions. One can only communicate with women in writing now, because if you talk to a woman who is emotionally unstable, she will cry and you will be crucified without an adequate trial. Women have become a danger to a fair and just society.
I’ve watched and analyzed this show many times and I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s mostly interpretive to one’s own experience, but I see it more as a commentary on those issues.. It’s supposed to be highlighting those flaws as a cautionary tale and to show that Lorelai is actually just like her parents in many ways, including being very controlling and selfish. She tried to escape it, but never really dealt with anything that deeply, so she is actually just as shallow
Oh, shut up. When men had all the rights and women none, society wasn't better, was 1 mil times worse. Children worked in factories, minor girls sold into bordellos, pedophilia was rampant, women had less rights than cattle, there were wars and poverty and famine, not to mention bloody power hungry male dictators who killed millions. Nobody had any rights except the powerful aristocratic men. I'd rather live in this world created by women, where there is no Russian male troops outside my door (like it happened to my grandmother who was repeatedly ra ped by them during the WW2), where people have basic human rights. And 99% of women divorce because they have to, because their partners are entitled and don't help them with nothing around the house and many become abusive and controlling and even violent (like my own father, who used to punch me in the heads for fun). But my mother didn't divorce because she had nowhere to go and no job. So I have to suffer with the consequences of his actions everyday, I have neurological and psychological problems, trauma induced PTSD, ED and other problems. So it's men who don't have accountability or any responsibility and single motherhood is better than to subject kids to men's violent behaviour and entitlement. Not to mention that many women have to raise their kids by themselves because the men left them or are in prison for crimes they have committed without thinking of the consequences to their children and families. Divorced women don't have to raise children alone, because fathers have parental rights and can be actively in that child's life just like before. Nobody stops you from being present your child's life after divorce. It's just most men don't care. It's men who don't have any accountability for their actions, not women. In this series, it's Chris who never cared for Lorelei and Rory and did his own thing, separate from their lives and struggles. He could have been there but he was busy living a good privileged life offered by his father while Lorelei scraped by trying to make ends meet. She did the right thing for her child. As many women do when they decide that being a single mother is best than being in an abusive situation with someone like you.
Also, when was society good and fair when men were in total control???!?!?!?!??!!! I'll wait. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
no matter your opinions you can't deny that Emily and Richard deeply hurt Lorelai many times.
And vice versa
@@10293 not as much as they hurted Lorelai.
What exactly did they do? They were snobs of course. But Lorelai was a wild child! She acted just like a lot of rich kids who have everything. Running around screwing everything and when she got pregnant she just ups and leaves. Now she is upset because Chris is staying by this woman who he got pregnant. That is what you are supposed to do. Rich girls are funny sometimes. When they have everything, they crave drama, misery, chaos, and pain. Her life was miserable because she made it miserable and Rory turned around and followed right in her footsteps! 😮🤫👏🤔
@@bobbiking2123 Disagree. She was not shown love, affection or emotional support by her parents during that extremely difficult time, and in the end she left to do what was best for her. Not saying she did it in the most mature way, but she was 16. Do you remember when Emily was screaming at her while she was literally in labour? How can anyone thrive in an environment like that? And I completely disagree that she had a miserable life. She was a very positive person who literally left to create her dream life and was happy - shouldn't we praise her for that? Isn't that what we're all trying to do? So she built a good life for herself and was happy and yet her parents resented her for it, which is not the role of a parent. Parents are supposed to want their child to be happy, not just to uphold their reputation and image.
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Why not? Your daughter is walking out on you and you two haven't noticed.
Everything Christopher does they all blame on loralai. Who was stopping Christopher from being a father to Rory? And why would you want a 16 year old girl to get married? Everything is about appearances for Richard and Emily.
They never respected her individuality. Ever.
I agree, you don't need to be married to the woman to be a father, you just need to be there. Christopher could have visited or called. Just because Lorelai refused to marry him doesn't mean he should stop being present in Rory's life.
Well she ran away. How do we know Christopher even knew where she was
I just realized Emily thought Lorelai was going to tell them her and Christopher were engaged. Which explains so much right here
But the thing we all miss is we don't know if Chris tried and lorelai stopped it it has never been confirmed why Chris wasn't part of rory's life when she was a child. Who knows maybe Chris didn't want to raise rory in stars hollow maybe he wanted to raise her elsewhere but lorelai didn't agree. The truth is we don't know as Amy never confirmed the back story. So it is a bit wrong to say Chris is totally at fault when it comes to being absent as we don't know the full story
Poor Lorelai :( Richard was always so vitriolic towards her whenever it came to Christopher. He held her past against her whilst giving Christopher a free pass on everything just because he followed the 'plan' and she didn't.
Christopher was a horrible father to Rory but that wasn't Lorelai's fault. He dipped in and out of their lives whenever he saw fit, who's to say it wouldn't have been a similar story had they gotten married when young.
Well, we can't tell. There was no Giggi on the revival. I would have loved to see how Giggi turned out. That would have given a good insight in how Christopher was doing at parenting
@@mariak9397 true but I was basing it on his parenting of Rory and relationship with Lorelai. I found it sad that he might be a better father to Gigi because he essentially got a 'do-over' with his father-daughter relationship but Rory would never get that. Gigi was his character growth so that's commendable but it doesn't cancel out how wrong he'd been towards lorelai and Rory and how Richard only ever blamed Lorelai :(
@@mariak9397 In the revival they touched upon Gigi. Christopher said that she is living in Paris and turning into a real French girl, which implies that once Gigi went to Paris she stayed there.
Same goes for Emily she likes throwing Lorelai past in her face.
Emily and Richard do that all the time
This is one of the reasons why I would have liked more flashbacks with 16 years old Lorelai and Chris. She turned him down, but did he really put up a fight? Did he think about going with her when she ran off to Stars Hallow? Did he know where she was during that time, and knowingly stay away? Or did he find out later? I'm just so curious about the specifics and how much Lorelai really did keep Rory to herself in those early years.
She turn him down cause no 16 year old should be forced to get married when they have a kid. You can tell Chris didn't want to get married or be a dad when they where starring at Rory in the hospital. If they got married they where be so miserable and be divorced by time Rory was 2.
Richard: "Lorelei had her chance for a family, she walked away from it."
Lorelei: Walks away from her parents
Emily *(to Richard)* :You do not walk out on me in the middle of conversation!
Lorelai: *quietly creeps out in the middle of the conversation.*
Because they never listen to her. They think they know best ALWAYS. It's why she left in the first place. I would have done the same thing in that environment.
Damn you get dumped and your parents blame you
That's Emily and Richard for ya
i hate how everyone ignores these kind of scenes, they all say that lorelai was a bad daughter and treat her parents like crap and Richard and Emily were the good guys. They blame everything on her when most of the time Christopher has all the fault, they think they have every right to interfere in her life and treat her like a teenager when she’s already a grown woman, they don’t let her make her own decisions, they want to control her life. This might be controversial but parents need to understand that at the second their child has a family (is married or have kids) as much as it hurts, they aren’t the immediate family anymore. Lorelai doesn’t own them anything, she has every right to not wanting her parents interfering in her personal life.
I agree with most of your comment except for the part where you say she doesn’t owe her parents anything. Are you kidding me??? You mean her mother who carried her for 9 months and went through pain and difficulty to bring her into this world. And then raised her (yes I’m sure she made a lot of mistakes as a mother but regardless), you owe your parents so much, in fact, you could never “repay” them for all the sacrifices they’ve made for you. They literally spend most of their money on you, nurture you, raise you. And then when you’re old enough and become an independent adult you owe them nothing? No one is more important than them (with the exception of your children because they’re helpless) not even your husband.
I think Emily thought Lorelai was going to say her and Christopher were engaged in the beginning. which explains the response now.
@@purplefire5 you're vastly discounting the weight emotional abuse has on a child. financially supporting your child is not reason enough for someone to allow themselves to be constantly humiliated, especially by those meant to nurture you. parent-child rs are complicated, and if the child believes it best to separate themselves as means for survival or to feel more joy, then so be it.
@@shivaane99 I wasn't responding to someone cutting their parents out of their life because they were emotionally or physically abused nor does providing for your kids justify that. Read my comment, I was responding to @Silvana Rogel and I will reiterate that I agree with most of her comment EXCEPT where she says: "This might be controversial but parents need to understand that at the second their child has a family (is married or have kids) as much as it hurts, they aren’t the immediate family anymore. Lorelai doesn’t own them anything..." That's what I was replying to and it's complete and utter bullshitttt, your parents are just as important as your kids and husband if not more so.
this really shows how much they disregard lorelai and her opinions and feelings. She literally leaves, and they both keep fighting about her life and keep debating whether she should fight for christopher or not.
Let's be real Lorelai never fought for anything. Where do you think Rory got that from.
One of Richard's worst scenes
The scene when Dean comes to Friday night dinner is a close second.
He's kinda right.
This man just doesn't seem to grasp the concept that Lorelai didn't want to marry Chris 16 years ago, (or he does and he just doesn't give a rat's ass about his own daughter's unhappiness, I dunno which one's worst) sad really. A marital status doesn't fix a couple's problems. Something Lorelai should've known as well when she: "if only Luke accept to marry me everything will go back on track" on season 6.
@@andrediaz2748 no he is not right it all.
@@andrediaz2748 how is he right?. Chris mever married Sherry
This makes me physically sick, how can they be so shitty and blame everything on their own daughter when she clearly did the right thing and this bozo continually screws her over. This is an accurate testament to how culture is so sexist and biased towards men even at the expense of logic.
She clearly says it 2:51 _"I'm not doing this lightly, In fact I'm not doing anything at all"_ Yet here they are, blaming Lorelai because another adult woman got pregnant and decided to keep the baby. And since the guy (Chris) who knocked her up wants to marry her and raise the child that makes it culturally and socially awarded while the single mother gets the shame.
Everyone seems to like jumping on Rory, Emily, and Lorelai's case for being the worst character but I think that award goes to Richard Gilmore. Not only does he not have any moral values in his business dealings (what he did to Jason), not only does he act like he's above everyone (how he was to Dean), but the fact that he let's his mother treat Emily, the way she does is unforgivable... But ofcourse he gets away with it because he's a man and always so cheerful... Its a good thing he wasn't in the revival (the character I mean) and I think Emily matured much more as a character not having to deal with the gilmores any more...
I think Emily earned the way Trix treats her. It’s the same way she treated all of Lorelai’s partners except Chris so I for one am glad she got some of that treatment back.
I never understood what the big deal was... they all act like they were together for months or something... they hooked up for one night and decided to be together then the next day Chris found out sherry was pregnant...
Yes, but with their history, that was actually a big step. They always knew they wanted to end up together, it was Lorelai basically waiting for Christopher to get his life together and be able to be a father..
@@xtxpxhx not really
@@lauriecarson6483 how so? i'm talking basically about the first three seasons. She even called him during her bachelorette party when she was engaged to Max.
@@xtxpxhx really I didn't know that thanks for telling me something I already knew
@@lauriecarson6483 so can you explain yourself? or why bothering answering, really
Even though this scene is horrible for Lorelai it is one of my favorite Richard & Emily disagreements.
Emily: So you support this?
Richard: I understand this.
Emily: I am appalled by your attitude!
Richard: And I am shocked by your naivety...
It's like Shakespeare. They were titans on this show. So good
great actors
Hey Richard & Emily you two are my favorite bests
you are so creepy why are you commenting that on every video
God if i were Lorelai id walk out too
How dare Richard throw her past in her face like that!
She was 16 for crying out loud she didnt want marriage she wanted to raise a healthy child and she did just that so be proud of her and get the fuck over it!
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Emily, careful what you wish for.....😏
Why would Lorelei do something if she doesn’t want to? I get so mad at her parents in the show. They treat her like absolute garbage. And then blame everything on her. I wouldn’t go around such toxic people. I don’t care if they paid for my daughters school or not. It’s extremely unhealthy. No wonder she didn’t talk to them for years.
Basically they always blamed her for not wanting to get married. So this entire situation stems from what she never did years ago. And I don't know any grandparent that wouldn't hold a grudge from you raising your granddaughter in a shed
Why are they out on the patio? Didn't Emily consider that like being heathens in another episode?
Patios are for drinks and lounging. She was opposed to eating on a patio.
Where they eating outside no they weren't.
Only with regards to eating a meal.
@@lauriecarson6483 Did you not see the maid?
My parents are terrible at gift giving too.
Do they care about her? At all?
Nope and the fans can never understand why Lorelai ran away fron home. Her parents was so terrible to her.
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Now Lorelei's walking away from U2.
1:51 If they summered or whatever in Marthasvineyard, they would go at the same time as other DAR members, which means that Emily and Richard probably socialized with the Huntzbergrers because they have a place in Martha's Vineyard. So this scone mix (meant to evoke a cottage core, demure, Donna Reed aesthetic) could be a gift from the Huntzbergers to the Gilmores, when really it was a gift from Mitchum to Rory saying that she is on his radar, maybe as a prospective wife for his heir? Emily does gossip, what if she mentioned the Donna Reed dress up incident with Dean to the DAR, as it would present Rory as Demure, so this gift is also a nod to the fact they have been keeping tabs on gossip about Rory for awhile
I think Rory would have figured that out, even if Lorelie didnt (or pretended not to), and I think Emily knew if she just gave Rory the gift she could piece it together 1:47
and I think something in the tone of voice of both Richard and Emily sounds similar to when they tried to convince Lorelei that she was reading into things with the Huntzbergers
wow
In my opinion, Emily may do a lot of…questionable things, but Richard tends to support those questionable things. Also Emily for better or worse is always trying to be in Rory and lorelais lives (ie the Friday night dinners)
Richard and Emily were horrible people. Plain and simple.
Me & Emily have a special relationship together we have so much in common together. I love to meet you Kelly Bishop
She's in bed waiting for you, I bet.
Me & Emily have a special relationship together we have so much in common together I love you Emily & Richard
they always wanted to force her to be with christopher but that’s not who she wanted regardless of them having a daughter together, i realized they never understood her
Richard is right
How please explain.
@@lauriecarson6483 If you do not know Laurie, then you will never understand unfortunately
@@financialinfo7727 oh joy another person thinks they know me. Well I understand more then you and Richard was not right at all.
No Richard wasn't right all. Chris had his chance to be a father to Rory but he didn't. Chris could have fought Lorelai for joint custody but he didn't do that. Chris ram away from his responsibility Lorelai didn't. So no Richard wasn't right.
@Fiancial Info. If I didn't understand why did I name of things Chris could have done for Rory. I know more then you do
Everyone's hating on Richard but he's right, Loralsi did push Christopher a way. She ran off with his baby for god's sack, idk why people think she's so innocent.
are you being serious? lorelai not marrying christopher doesn’t equal lorelai stopping him from being a father to rory. that is absolutely ridiculous. chris viewed rory as an extension of lorelai; the only time he wanted to be near her was when it was able to get him closer to lorelai. the first time christopher deigned to visit rory at her house was when she was 16, even though he was fully capable of visiting her any time before that. you can co parent a child without being a couple. christopher just chose not to.
@@fairypjm3603 She didn't have to marry him, but she didn't have to sneak out and run away. How long did it take for Lorelai to tell Chris where she was? A day? A year- five years?
Like, I get it, it's a feminist show so everyone feels obligated to give Lorelai a free pass for everything, but the fact is that she can't set Chris up to be a "deadbeat" by running away with his kid and take God knows how long to inform him where they're at, and then cry that he didn't "try harder".
@@infinitum8558 tell me how long did it take Chris to set foot in Stars Hallow when Rory was there. We all dont know what went on when Lorelai and Rory moved to Stars Hallow. All we see is that Lorelai took responaiblity for her action and Chris didnt. Chris could have fought Lorelai and co parent with Lorelai but he didnt. Chris could have gotten a job closer to Rory and could have been there and help supoorted her but he didn't. Getting married at 16 is stupid and it dont aolve crap. The only reason why Chris wanted to do the right thing is because her and his parents told him too. He didn't want that and it showed. So all that crap you said about Lorelai was not true. And how would you know that Lorelai didnt tell Chris right away.
@@infinitum8558 Hahahahahaha 😂how do you know it was a day? A year? Five years? It could've been 5 days, five weeks, five months. By all means share it. Not to mention that running away from her parents isn't the same as running away from her boyfriend. Just because she didn't tell them where she was doesn't mean she didn't tell him.
You are just assuming the worst in order to defend him (what? You think we wouldn't notice? Aww that's cute) Unlike you I'm just guessing,unless you have a secret piece of information that we don't. Me on the other hand I do have a piece of information to back me up.
Chris: _I haven't been enough part of Rory's life. So I wanna be around more, be another pal she can depend on. I mean, I'm not crazy. I know there's already a life going on here, and god knows she doesn't need anyone besides you. But if you give me a chance..._
Lorelai: _I've always had the door to Rory open for you._
Chris: _I know._ (why do I get the feeling that this is the part of the conversation that you will conveniently ignore)
Lorleai: _You've hardly ever used it._
Chris: _Well, I wanna use it now._
Gilmore Girls s1e15 - Christopher Returns
And I can't stop wondering if this is a feminist show, then why do the fans still condemn all the wrong things that the female characters have done? Like when Sherry ran away and left Gigi with Christopher, or when Nicole cheated on Luke, or Rory cheating on Dean, or Lorelai leaving Max (free pass you say?), or the time that everyone applauded Rory for condemning Loreli for sleeping with Chris after Luke didn't elope with her (seriously, free pass?) Hahahahahahaha 🤣, but yeah clearly we give the women here free passes.
Poor Christopher. Lorelai never let him be a part of her family.
Lol Chris is a joke
By all means, how did she stop him? Is there a restraining order or a fight for Rory's custody that they secretly had (and that you magically find out?)
Oh poor Chris got his little feelings hurt. Chris choose not to be there Lorelai didn't do crap.
@@lauriecarson6483why was it up to lorelai to fight for Chris to be in Rory’s life if he wanted to he would it was up to Chris he was never a good father
I always thought Gilmore Girls was a harmless TV show. I am starting to see that this show has raised a generation of fatherless feminists who are narcissistic and as Richard put it: "Lorelai never thinks about the consequences of her actions on other people." This show should be banned in North America and come with a warning label: Will convince women that they are the center of the universe and their actions should never be questioned by anyone, not by parents, family, church, society. A woman is an island all to herself. This show is the cause of millions of divorces in our country. We have a real problem in our society with women refusing to take any responsibility or accountability for their actions. One can only communicate with women in writing now, because if you talk to a woman who is emotionally unstable, she will cry and you will be crucified without an adequate trial. Women have become a danger to a fair and just society.
I’ve watched and analyzed this show many times and I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s mostly interpretive to one’s own experience, but I see it more as a commentary on those issues.. It’s supposed to be highlighting those flaws as a cautionary tale and to show that Lorelai is actually just like her parents in many ways, including being very controlling and selfish. She tried to escape it, but never really dealt with anything that deeply, so she is actually just as shallow
What?.
@@nimusehno oh bull crap.
Oh, shut up. When men had all the rights and women none, society wasn't better, was 1 mil times worse. Children worked in factories, minor girls sold into bordellos, pedophilia was rampant, women had less rights than cattle, there were wars and poverty and famine, not to mention bloody power hungry male dictators who killed millions. Nobody had any rights except the powerful aristocratic men.
I'd rather live in this world created by women, where there is no Russian male troops outside my door (like it happened to my grandmother who was repeatedly ra ped by them during the WW2), where people have basic human rights.
And 99% of women divorce because they have to, because their partners are entitled and don't help them with nothing around the house and many become abusive and controlling and even violent (like my own father, who used to punch me in the heads for fun). But my mother didn't divorce because she had nowhere to go and no job. So I have to suffer with the consequences of his actions everyday, I have neurological and psychological problems, trauma induced PTSD, ED and other problems. So it's men who don't have accountability or any responsibility and single motherhood is better than to subject kids to men's violent behaviour and entitlement.
Not to mention that many women have to raise their kids by themselves because the men left them or are in prison for crimes they have committed without thinking of the consequences to their children and families.
Divorced women don't have to raise children alone, because fathers have parental rights and can be actively in that child's life just like before. Nobody stops you from being present your child's life after divorce. It's just most men don't care.
It's men who don't have any accountability for their actions, not women.
In this series, it's Chris who never cared for Lorelei and Rory and did his own thing, separate from their lives and struggles. He could have been there but he was busy living a good privileged life offered by his father while Lorelei scraped by trying to make ends meet. She did the right thing for her child. As many women do when they decide that being a single mother is best than being in an abusive situation with someone like you.
Also, when was society good and fair when men were in total control???!?!?!?!??!!!
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