Excited to see the Holosun video. They deserve a deep dive video and research since they are such a massive part of the optics market today, both for their cheap optics and their more expensive ones. Cheers fellas.
I am as well, I have a holosun 510c red dot and I’ve beat the crap out of this optic for the past 3 years I’ve had it and it’s always pinpoint accurite when I need that 200 yard coyote or something! I know people harp on holosun but I’d like to see a Trex arms durability test done on it. Like I said mine has been literally thrown from a vehicle on a rifle many times and endured falls and impacts . Only bad thing is open emitter but cmon Trex arms, the poors need to be satisfied 😂👍🏻
I obtained a prototype holosun rifle optic in 2020 for review but it never got released to the public because of the coof. Essentially its a 515GT-RD but with a screw-on battery cap instead of the tray that holds the battery with those two tiny torx screws. I broke one on a 6.5lb AR10 from the bolt slamming forward too hard and holosun gave me another prototype replacement. Both serial numbers are under 100. Edit: I've pushed this optic and a HM3X magnifier to 500yds no issues.
It really sucks they are a Chinese company. but at the value and price point you receive the 515gm has become a go to for many of my rifles. I own T2s and they are great. but man at 1/3 the price its so hard to not consider the 515gm.
T.Rex Arms: "We need to find someone who really knows how to beat up on equipment until it fails." Brandon: "Hi, I'm a former Marine." T.Rex Arms: "You're hired."
What a phenomenal breakdown. This is the kind of data that helps the most people in seriously equipping or upgrading their platforms. Thanks a lot Brandon and the T.Rex team.
I've had the SLX MD-25 from Primary Arms for about two years. It's been amazing for me. No issues, would recommend. Probably put out around 2k rounds with it.
I was wondering if they would evaluate those or even the micro prisms (which seem like affordable alternatives to ACOGS and the like). Lots of people say the micro prisms hold up well.
For the money they seem good. I have several, mostly the rotary knob ones. I have one original push button version, and the new push button version. The turrets on the rotary and new push button are better than holosons. I have had issues with the holosun turrets. The detent gets screwed up and it becomes hard to turn. The primary arms have more relflection when looking towards the sun than the holosuns I've used.
Wow, this is the best optic testing and evaluation I’ve seen it years. Truly a video worth watching for anybody looking for a high quality red dot. I will be recommending this video for anyone looking for a red dot. It really is a blessing that y’all are able and willing to provide this kinda of information to the consumer for FREE. Y’all are doing more for freedom loving Americans than basically anyone in the shooting space. Between the testing, shooting drills, shooting instruction, and printable targets. I truly appreciate it THANK YOU to all of the TRex team.
Quick side note on the Sig's. my Romeo 4T has the quadplex (+) reticle and it has a noticeable blue tint, but I just got the Romeo 4T Pro when it came in off backorder and has no blue tint (circle dot reticle)
Am I the only one who actually misses that reticle? Mine is way clearer to my eye than any 2 MOA dot, bordering on an etched reticle when magnified. Only reason I replaced it with the new 4T Pro was due to the terrible NV performance.
This guy’s personality and approach brings something that really compliments the other presenters on this channel. A little different but still the same blood. Solid video chaps. Very valuable insight.
I am interested to see as much T&E content as T-Rex Arms has the impetus to make. If Brandon is in charge of developing the protocols, the more the better. Great content.
Good content as always and if people question things maybe they need to try them themselves, anyways super solid video and yes any content from you guys is good content, just curious if you guys have done a magnifier video or series with these optics as well as far as each company has their own magnifier and the testing behind that 🍻
no offence but in my opinion, the red dot testing was redundant they are all top dollar, top of the line, name brand optics. There is nothing that you can do to those optics, that has not already been done. I would have been more impressed if y'all were to test, no name, budget optics priced $149. and lower. Gees give some of the smaller optics companies a chance, considering 99.98% of all optics are foreign made anyway, who care if it were made in China, Taiwan Japan Germany etc which "all' of them are using China parts anyway. There are "No" 100% USA made optics.
Another T.Rex Arms video trashing Holosun for no reason... I know they aren't "mAdE iN aMeRiCa" but coming from someone who carry's a firearm everyday for a big agency and understands the tool and its purpose, i'll take an Holosun everyday. And yes, Trijicon was the industry standard at ONE POINT but we all know they're playing catch up (red dot pistol optics). Give me the best product, no matter if it was made in American or China. The guy on a felony stop at 3 A.M. doesn't care if your optic is made in America...Make sure your dot works when you need it and you make it home to your family. Take care boys.
Holosun innovated pistol red dots, not rifle dots. I own a Holosun HS510C, and all the dots on my handguns are Holosun, but they don't compare to the Eotechs in my opinion when it comes to a rifle. I think they are not a bad option but just aren't there yet.
@@jjcrazylegs7081 You're comparing Michael Jordan to Michael Redd...I understand there rifle optics aren't Close to a T2 or a Eotech and i'm not saying they're in the same league...But what we can't do is make it seem like they're not functional for the AVERAGE American (which is his target market per his website). Holosun is a great option for most. If you have the budget to spend more, PLEASE do so. But don't make it seem like because they're made in China they suck...
They really try and focus on US made products. I have two Holosun optics and they have been awesome. I know more people that have issues with US made optics than Holosun products. I like my US made stuff but when you get down to it, its an aluminum housing that has a little red light inside. Its not exactly a rocket ship we are talking about. I cant stomach paying $1000 for a T2 when a $350 Holosun will do the same thing and be just as reliable (in my experience). I also own EoTech optics as well and they are great, but if it ever dies I am not confident I would spend the extra money on one again.
Awesome video. I had a Romeo4T and 8T at one point and I loved the 8T glass. Very close to an EOTECH for a red dot but I didn't care for the extra weight; on the other hand the 4T had some pretty pronounced blue tint that made passive performance lackluster. I'm glad to hear the 4XT-PRO has seemed to resolve that issue!
Thanks for doing all that research for us! I would never have been able to afford that. I’m in the market for my first optic. I’m currently running a light/red dot that’s designed for pistol use.
Saw Garand Thumb have that parallax issue with the Trijicon MRO, and you guys are also talking about it. I guess if I have the issue maybe Trijicon will fix it? Or find a different optic.
Let’s go Brandon! Sorry had to say. Great content and if there was a Meprolight to test out and sell, it’s the Meprolight RDS Pro V2. Crisp clear reticle and works great with my astigmatism. It works with my eyes like a Holosun does. Heading back to finish the video. Great job and keep the content coming!
Cheers to the solid information! I appreciate the depth. Been Debating the Sig 8 & Vortex Huey for last month or 2 & this video helps solidify my decision towards the Sig. #ARJunkie #AmmoJunkie #2ARights #RepealNFA #FJB 😉🤘🇺🇸
I really am looking forward to you guys’ content on holosun. I’ve always respected your ideas and beliefs as a company, but I’m still a poor and own a few holosuns so I truly am curious…
@@jtoole5639What’s wrong with China made optics? I own an Arken scope on my long range rifle and a Holosun on a Pcc. Both have never failed me. More expensive doesn’t always mean better. The majority of people don’t understand this.
Bud!!!.. Huge T-Rex fan. Brandon.. you did REALLY good here bud!!.. enjoyed your presentation.. no fluff.. no BS.. straight to the point! Well Done.. Liked and Subbed. My next dot will be bought from the info from this test here.
I’m disappointed that you discarded the 403R without a clearer explanation! I own the Eotech and the Aimpoint, but I have several 403Rs on secondary rifles
So long as we ignore the fact that they have close ties with the Chinese defense industry and are made using modern slavery. We don't always get a choice in the matter - it's impossible to buy a cell phone today that wasn't made in China with parts that come from forced labor, for example. But we definitely get a choice with quality optics. I'm glad T Rex doesn't sell Holosun on their website.
@@acidtalons u know nothing about optics lol. Price doesn’t mean anything. Also holosun doesn’t even have a 150$ optic lol. They are also one of the best ones u can get for the money and even better than a lot of more expensive ones. That’s y he said this is a whole different video in its own. Do ur research. Watch videos on holosun optics compared to other optics and see how good they compare and even beat higher priced optics. Also they have features that more expensive optics don’t have. Such as the shake to wake. The rifle and pistol line of holosun optics are proven reliable and top notch.
@@acidtalonsIs it possible, when considering an optic for duty grade that Holosun just doesn't quiet make it despite being a good optic, yet not meant for rugged duty? These are questions that I am asking myself because I get a 25% discount at swampfox, yet if it's not duty grade and rugged, do I really want a swampfox? I'm still undecided, yet am seeking more information to see if I should just go ahead and spend 1500 on a trijicon vcog for my thousand dollar rifle.
@@ThePatriotParadox any that do started after vortex became a major competitor to try and keep up. And none offer the unconditional side. You can literally mail a Ziploc of the ashes of your vortex product along with all necessary info and they will send you a new one(yes i know someone who had their truck burn down)
@@EndTheNFAplsMY GOD SOMEONE KNOW PURE BEAUTY. HAVE OVER 40 SCOPES MOST MY DADS A S.E.A.L.. FLAT, STUNNINLY CLEAR. DEATH FOR GLASS IS HORRIBLE TINTS AND HUES. BLUE AND GREEN .NASTY. IF YOU LIKE STIEN. THE BEST CLASS AT 1K. LEOPOLD MK 5 1X 4.5 X40. LOOK FOR YOURSELF. BOUGHT 8 STEIN 1X4X24 4 GREEN 4 RED. YES GREEN TRIANGLE WITH BDC . ONE WORD STELLAR. SELLING ALL BUT THE GREEN. FROMM LEOPOLD. I PAINED 499.00 EACK FOR 8. THE GUY SAID I WILL GIVE THEM ALL FOR 499.00. THEN AGAIN IM A PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER FOR 55 YEARS. CONSULT FOLKS ON PHOTO GLASS AND SCOPE GLASS. HIT ME UP FOR THE GREEN. I ASSURE YOU WILL FALL IN LUV. THE LEO, CRUSHES TRIGICON 1X 10X 24. FOR 1500 BUCKS. NOT EVEN CLOSE. NO ITCHED RETICAL. BDB. ECT ECT
The Vortex Huey's base is where the tracking adjustment happens and it has rough anodizing and gets grit in it and drags coming back to the right unless you keep it clean and even lubed. I had the same problem with my Elcan with a similar adjustment system. Since I greased the contact points on my Huey's base (tracking carriage?) it no longer has a weird inconsistent RH tracking adjustment.
Appreciate these series you’re putting out. I’m currently putting together a BCM MK12, DDM4v7 and machining some ideas I’ve had. Regardless love this content.
Awesome video! However I noticed you mentioned you dislike the 65moa ring reticles but you have run eotechs in all the videos you have been in. Are you running the EXPS3-1 or just trying to become accustomed to Eotech reticles? Not calling anyone out and this video was very educational, just curious
I tired the exps3-1 and it is really good, however Eotech needs to fix the pulse width modulation in the sight. At low settings the dot has a poor refresh rate and you can see the dot trail in transition
It was a little odd for you to start with Holosun, say it'll be a topic for later discussion, and then later in the video make mention of how much you like the glass clarity on the Holosun when discussing another option. Y'all really need to standardize the bullet-points here...
I really like that Eotech created the EXPS 3-1 for all the people that absolutely hate the 68 MOA ring. The 3-1 will be a contender with T-2 when I eventually start building an SBR in the future. I really love the handling of parallax with Eotechs but the Aimpoint just looks so slim and cool.
I've been running an 8T on a unity riser for a while. Got it at a tremendous price and nothing else in that price range remotely compared. It is heavy, but it's taken a lot of abuse and that housing is solid
Loved this video and really enjoyed Brandon's breakdown: knowledgeable and straight to the point without a ton of fluff but also felt organic and unscripted. I would like to see a red dot breakdown for optics in the $200-$400 range for shooters looking for a solid sight while we save up for a T-2. Keep it up!
I definitely want to see prism scopes next. All 3 of them on the market im genuinely curious to see the outcome, considering the real fight is 2nd place
Great video, more content like this, please! Hs403/503 suck, and some of the 515 models do too. Ive had good success with the 515gm though, especially passive nvg. Looking forward to the deep dive.
the fact that he is ex military his opinion would even more valid. something i notice about red dots, that it will be more effective if the optic is smaller. since i feel that you arent suppose to peek into the optic, but you need to treat it like an iron sight. so those red dots with narrow tunnel sight is the most effective in my opinion. all you need to do is place that narrow hole peek/window on the target in the distance. you dont even need to pay too much attention to the red dot indicator itself. and using the hole as an ironsight-like alignment. because with the bigger peek like the EXPS, you would only get distracted by how the red dot could move around (parallax) in the middle of the frame(something most video gamers dont know ). so those narrow smaller pipe/scope/tunnel reddots are the better more effective ones.
Really enjoyed the video and the information for myself and the civilian sector. Greatly appreciated. Thank you. Keep up all the great work. Gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling of how much you guys all do as a company for the armed prepared citizens!
This is the kind of content I want. I want the real MARSOC level evals here. I wanna know what the good sh*t is, but specifically I wanna know how the 'good sh*t' actually performs and what properties it has, not just a list of features and a general statement of 'yeh it works I guess after putting only a couple hundred rounds through it'. I wanna know what their value is like and how durable they are, but performance, testing, and interface is king
Love these types of videos. Helps people like me out a lot that can only buy one of these kinds of optics. And I also really enjoy the amount and type of testing you guys do. I recommend people buy products on your website for those reasons. Keep it up!
With the people asking "why not X Aimpoint/Y Eotech/Holosun," they're explicitly testing non-Aimpoint/Eotech options and are doing a separate video for Holosun. Maybe listen a little more to the video while watching
Ive been liking all the Brandon content. Seems like a solid guy
Agreed! I like all the data he presents and he's very to the point
We’ve been truly blessed having Brandon on our team. -Lucas
True
@@TREXARMSare you planning to use any of these red dots other than eotech and aimpoint?
Course he is. He is a representation of the soild team at #trexarms
#ofcourse
Excited to see the Holosun video. They deserve a deep dive video and research since they are such a massive part of the optics market today, both for their cheap optics and their more expensive ones. Cheers fellas.
I am as well, I have a holosun 510c red dot and I’ve beat the crap out of this optic for the past 3 years I’ve had it and it’s always pinpoint accurite when I need that 200 yard coyote or something! I know people harp on holosun but I’d like to see a Trex arms durability test done on it. Like I said mine has been literally thrown from a vehicle on a rifle many times and endured falls and impacts . Only bad thing is open emitter but cmon Trex arms, the poors need to be satisfied 😂👍🏻
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I obtained a prototype holosun rifle optic in 2020 for review but it never got released to the public because of the coof. Essentially its a 515GT-RD but with a screw-on battery cap instead of the tray that holds the battery with those two tiny torx screws. I broke one on a 6.5lb AR10 from the bolt slamming forward too hard and holosun gave me another prototype replacement. Both serial numbers are under 100.
Edit: I've pushed this optic and a HM3X magnifier to 500yds no issues.
Also looking forward to their opinion since Holosun OEM manufactures many of Vortex/Sig/PA's red dots.
It really sucks they are a Chinese company. but at the value and price point you receive the 515gm has become a go to for many of my rifles. I own T2s and they are great. but man at 1/3 the price its so hard to not consider the 515gm.
No wonder you guys are so popular this content brings a lot a value to the viewer.
Serving the community. That's the goal!
Yup for free can’t beat this type of content this information is great
They have some of if not the best customer service there is. The kydex they use on the newer side car are 2nd to none.
T.Rex Arms: "We need to find someone who really knows how to beat up on equipment until it fails."
Brandon: "Hi, I'm a former Marine."
T.Rex Arms: "You're hired."
What a phenomenal breakdown. This is the kind of data that helps the most people in seriously equipping or upgrading their platforms. Thanks a lot Brandon and the T.Rex team.
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Noice. Now do red dot magnifiers! Durability, reliability, pros/cons, etc... :D
I 2nd this. It would be very helpful!
2nd
I third or fourth this idea. Me suspects they're on it already.
I agree
Really good idea
Prism optics next, please! Been looking at the Primary Arms SLx 3x micro prism optic, and I'm curious if it's as durable as it seems.
I've had the SLX MD-25 from Primary Arms for about two years. It's been amazing for me. No issues, would recommend. Probably put out around 2k rounds with it.
SLX 3x micro is pretty amazing.
Tberes other videos on this check thise out a d you wont be waiting
I have the SLx 1, and it's a tank. Quality of optics? I haven't a clue. My eyes are old. LOL
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The Primary Arms Micro dots are pretty amazing.
I was wondering if they would evaluate those or even the micro prisms (which seem like affordable alternatives to ACOGS and the like). Lots of people say the micro prisms hold up well.
I bought one and I received a detective one. I was pretty upset it was only after like 200 rounds, but they honored a return for it so that was nice.
@@tylerb2986 has the replacement held up over time?
Mine has held up like a champ
For the money they seem good. I have several, mostly the rotary knob ones. I have one original push button version, and the new push button version. The turrets on the rotary and new push button are better than holosons. I have had issues with the holosun turrets. The detent gets screwed up and it becomes hard to turn. The primary arms have more relflection when looking towards the sun than the holosuns I've used.
Wow, this is the best optic testing and evaluation I’ve seen it years. Truly a video worth watching for anybody looking for a high quality red dot. I will be recommending this video for anyone looking for a red dot. It really is a blessing that y’all are able and willing to provide this kinda of information to the consumer for FREE. Y’all are doing more for freedom loving Americans than basically anyone in the shooting space. Between the testing, shooting drills, shooting instruction, and printable targets. I truly appreciate it THANK YOU to all of the TRex team.
This is great stuff.
Extremely informative.
I don’t know anywhere else someone can go to get side by side unbiased(as possible ) info
i think brandon is such a great no-nonsense speaker and he really seems to know his stuff. really enjoyed the very informative content!
Quick side note on the Sig's. my Romeo 4T has the quadplex (+) reticle and it has a noticeable blue tint, but I just got the Romeo 4T Pro when it came in off backorder and has no blue tint (circle dot reticle)
Am I the only one who actually misses that reticle? Mine is way clearer to my eye than any 2 MOA dot, bordering on an etched reticle when magnified. Only reason I replaced it with the new 4T Pro was due to the terrible NV performance.
This guy’s personality and approach brings something that really compliments the other presenters on this channel. A little different but still the same blood. Solid video chaps. Very valuable insight.
Sound sus af bruh
Optics are so damn hard to pick and can get expensive. Everyone can say they have regrets about one optic or another. This was an awesome video.
Nobody regrets a T2 ;)
@@arrowhead5217*laughs with my 1/4 price holosun*
I have no Eotech EXPS3 regrets
@@arrowhead5217I did. Looked like a big red comma. The circle dot reticles work better with my eyes so I went with the 4T.
@@anotherguy8093 Your eyes are broken not the dot
I like the concise breakdown of testing and the transparency in possible errors. Great job.
Can't wait for the Holosun vid. 😅
I ❤️ all of mine. 🤣
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I am interested to see as much T&E content as T-Rex Arms has the impetus to make.
If Brandon is in charge of developing the protocols, the more the better.
Great content.
Good content as always and if people question things maybe they need to try them themselves, anyways super solid video and yes any content from you guys is good content, just curious if you guys have done a magnifier video or series with these optics as well as far as each company has their own magnifier and the testing behind that 🍻
no offence but in my opinion, the red dot testing was redundant they are all top dollar, top of the line, name brand optics. There is nothing that you can do to those optics, that has not already been done. I would have been more impressed if y'all were to test, no name, budget optics priced $149. and lower. Gees give some of the smaller optics companies a chance, considering 99.98% of all optics are foreign made anyway, who care if it were made in China, Taiwan Japan Germany etc which "all' of them are using China parts anyway. There are "No" 100% USA made optics.
Vortex sparc over holosun….gay
Awesome info! Keep this style coming. It really does help us. Brandon, you are doing an excellent job sir.
Another T.Rex Arms video trashing Holosun for no reason... I know they aren't "mAdE iN aMeRiCa" but coming from someone who carry's a firearm everyday for a big agency and understands the tool and its purpose, i'll take an Holosun everyday. And yes, Trijicon was the industry standard at ONE POINT but we all know they're playing catch up (red dot pistol optics). Give me the best product, no matter if it was made in American or China. The guy on a felony stop at 3 A.M. doesn't care if your optic is made in America...Make sure your dot works when you need it and you make it home to your family.
Take care boys.
Holosun is slept on
Holosun innovated pistol red dots, not rifle dots. I own a Holosun HS510C, and all the dots on my handguns are Holosun, but they don't compare to the Eotechs in my opinion when it comes to a rifle. I think they are not a bad option but just aren't there yet.
@@jjcrazylegs7081 You're comparing Michael Jordan to Michael Redd...I understand there rifle optics aren't Close to a T2 or a Eotech and i'm not saying they're in the same league...But what we can't do is make it seem like they're not functional for the AVERAGE American (which is his target market per his website). Holosun is a great option for most. If you have the budget to spend more, PLEASE do so. But don't make it seem like because they're made in China they suck...
Man! I was really looking forward to hearing about Holosun!
They really try and focus on US made products. I have two Holosun optics and they have been awesome. I know more people that have issues with US made optics than Holosun products. I like my US made stuff but when you get down to it, its an aluminum housing that has a little red light inside. Its not exactly a rocket ship we are talking about. I cant stomach paying $1000 for a T2 when a $350 Holosun will do the same thing and be just as reliable (in my experience). I also own EoTech optics as well and they are great, but if it ever dies I am not confident I would spend the extra money on one again.
Thanks for the MRO HD Parallax testing, definitely needed that info.
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I would like to see you guys review primary arms optics
Brandon is great. More Brandon content is more than welcome
Awesome video. I had a Romeo4T and 8T at one point and I loved the 8T glass. Very close to an EOTECH for a red dot but I didn't care for the extra weight; on the other hand the 4T had some pretty pronounced blue tint that made passive performance lackluster. I'm glad to hear the 4XT-PRO has seemed to resolve that issue!
I'd like more Brandon content on this channel ngl. (Not replacing lucas ofc)
There will be more.
Lets go Brandon! Haha yea I like Brandon. Seems like a good overall guy.
Thanks for doing all that research for us! I would never have been able to afford that. I’m in the market for my first optic. I’m currently running a light/red dot that’s designed for pistol use.
Would love to see these white papers released to get a comprehensive read on classes of products
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Thanks for this one, really wanted to hear more information on optics. Good work guys
I'm super interested in the outcome of Holosun test. Shame that you didn't give it 20 seconds of explanation.
Right? And he still doesn’t have a video out about it
Man I just threw my cell phone in the trash because it was made in china. Life is so much better now.
Trex video at 10pm? Why the hell not.
Saw Garand Thumb have that parallax issue with the Trijicon MRO, and you guys are also talking about it. I guess if I have the issue maybe Trijicon will fix it? Or find a different optic.
The holosun is the main talking point in the comments and it wasn't even reviewed.
*T.REX ARMS* Bravo well done, thank-you sir for taking the time to bring us along. GOD Bless.
AMEN
Enjoyed the deep nerd dive. Keep it goin Brandon!
I've been hoping for some T&E from T-rex... Glad to have you Brandan!
I love these type of videos. Can't wait to see more like this.
Let’s go Brandon! Sorry had to say. Great content and if there was a Meprolight to test out and sell, it’s the Meprolight RDS Pro V2. Crisp clear reticle and works great with my astigmatism. It works with my eyes like a Holosun does. Heading back to finish the video. Great job and keep the content coming!
very helpful info. just so happens i was trying to decide between a couple particular red dots on this review. i'm going with the 4xt pro.
Finally! An optics comparison worthy of my time!
My favorites are still the holosun 512 on a unity riser for a short gun and the holosun aems if I want to use a magnifier.
AEMS is a sleeper. It really surprised me under NODS
Maybe a prism/micro-prism version? Primary Arms, Paragon, Swampfox, etc.
If it's not something you're going to bet your life on, then it doesn't matter. If so, ACOG or Elcan
PA prism is LEGIT. My buddy who owns all the most Gucci sights was so mad to admit he liked my 2.5x prism 😂
@@carsonhunt4642 I second this. I have the PA 3x Micro and love it. I wear bifocals and still shoot this scope with no problems.
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You may be confusing reticles with prism quality. PA does have the best reticles but drop it on some concrete and tell me if you still like it.
Let’s see that Holosun video
I love red dots 🔴
Cheers to the solid information! I appreciate the depth. Been Debating the Sig 8 & Vortex Huey for last month or 2 & this video helps solidify my decision towards the Sig. #ARJunkie #AmmoJunkie #2ARights #RepealNFA #FJB 😉🤘🇺🇸
Wish the EOTECH parallax testing was shown
agreed however it's my understanding the eotech has the least amount of paralax.
I really am looking forward to you guys’ content on holosun. I’ve always respected your ideas and beliefs as a company, but I’m still a poor and own a few holosuns so I truly am curious…
So the Holosun was that bad? That good? Make the damn video…
Holosun is communist crap
I think it has to do with the China stuff
Omitting the Holosun AEMS from this review doesn’t make sense
@@jtoole5639What’s wrong with China made optics? I own an Arken scope on my long range rifle and a Holosun on a Pcc. Both have never failed me. More expensive doesn’t always mean better. The majority of people don’t understand this.
@@LosDoyerssthe point is it’s made in China. Nothing to do with quality
Bud!!!.. Huge T-Rex fan. Brandon.. you did REALLY good here bud!!.. enjoyed your presentation.. no fluff.. no BS.. straight to the point! Well Done.. Liked and Subbed. My next dot will be bought from the info from this test here.
I’m disappointed that you discarded the 403R without a clearer explanation! I own the Eotech and the Aimpoint, but I have several 403Rs on secondary rifles
Same here.....but they are the 503's.
I like them.
We are hoping to do a Holosun specific video that covers multiple optics and lasers from them. Only reason it was not addressed in this video.
@@brandon.wombatwhen do you think that will happen?
Not sure yet.@@The11eleven
Holosun makes great optics.
So long as we ignore the fact that they have close ties with the Chinese defense industry and are made using modern slavery. We don't always get a choice in the matter - it's impossible to buy a cell phone today that wasn't made in China with parts that come from forced labor, for example. But we definitely get a choice with quality optics. I'm glad T Rex doesn't sell Holosun on their website.
Must be junk, I mean their $150 optic was no good compared to $700 optics.
@@acidtalons u know nothing about optics lol. Price doesn’t mean anything. Also holosun doesn’t even have a 150$ optic lol. They are also one of the best ones u can get for the money and even better than a lot of more expensive ones. That’s y he said this is a whole different video in its own. Do ur research. Watch videos on holosun optics compared to other optics and see how good they compare and even beat higher priced optics. Also they have features that more expensive optics don’t have. Such as the shake to wake. The rifle and pistol line of holosun optics are proven reliable and top notch.
@@Wizop I think Holosuns are good, I suspect T-rex's take will be they are bad since he unceremoniously chucked it out of the review.
@@acidtalonsIs it possible, when considering an optic for duty grade that Holosun just doesn't quiet make it despite being a good optic, yet not meant for rugged duty?
These are questions that I am asking myself because I get a 25% discount at swampfox, yet if it's not duty grade and rugged, do I really want a swampfox? I'm still undecided, yet am seeking more information to see if I should just go ahead and spend 1500 on a trijicon vcog for my thousand dollar rifle.
Take a drink every time Brandon says variables 😉
403r did aswell as the aim point thats why it got thrown out since they don't sell it.
Excellent review. Best I have seen to date.
One thing to remember and probably would have been worth mentioning is vortex's unconditional lifetime warranty.
doesn't matter if it breaks when you need it. taurus also have an excellent warranty, couldn't convince me to carry one.
@@EvanDickersonM81cheap tho
Yes that is a plus, but most all do that don't they? Sucks they went up 100 bucks after Trex review
@@ThePatriotParadox any that do started after vortex became a major competitor to try and keep up. And none offer the unconditional side. You can literally mail a Ziploc of the ashes of your vortex product along with all necessary info and they will send you a new one(yes i know someone who had their truck burn down)
@@LeakyJoosbox yeah the no questions life time is awesome
Hey can you guys do a run down on prism and fiber optics?
The 4x optics next like Sig battle sights, Elcan, ACOG and prism sights next would be cool, or what I would consider good general purpose optics.
A Steiner P4xi
@@EndTheNFAplsMY GOD SOMEONE KNOW PURE BEAUTY. HAVE OVER 40 SCOPES MOST MY DADS A S.E.A.L.. FLAT, STUNNINLY CLEAR. DEATH FOR GLASS IS HORRIBLE TINTS AND HUES. BLUE AND GREEN .NASTY. IF YOU LIKE STIEN. THE BEST CLASS AT 1K. LEOPOLD MK 5 1X 4.5 X40. LOOK FOR YOURSELF. BOUGHT 8 STEIN 1X4X24 4 GREEN 4 RED. YES GREEN TRIANGLE WITH BDC . ONE WORD STELLAR. SELLING ALL BUT THE GREEN. FROMM LEOPOLD. I PAINED 499.00 EACK FOR 8. THE GUY SAID I WILL GIVE THEM ALL FOR 499.00.
THEN AGAIN IM A PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER FOR 55 YEARS. CONSULT FOLKS ON PHOTO GLASS AND SCOPE GLASS. HIT ME UP FOR THE GREEN. I ASSURE YOU WILL FALL IN LUV. THE LEO, CRUSHES TRIGICON 1X 10X 24. FOR 1500 BUCKS.
NOT EVEN CLOSE. NO ITCHED RETICAL. BDB. ECT ECT
The Vortex Huey's base is where the tracking adjustment happens and it has rough anodizing and gets grit in it and drags coming back to the right unless you keep it clean and even lubed. I had the same problem with my Elcan with a similar adjustment system. Since I greased the contact points on my Huey's base (tracking carriage?) it no longer has a weird inconsistent RH tracking adjustment.
Now for the 515 and the aems
He hit that “In the Air Tonight” by Phil Collins drum solo on that blooper at the end lol
Leaving out the Holoson 403B was a crime. So many people buy that optic and it’s the main direct budget competitor to the T2.
We are hoping to do a Holosun specific video that covers multiple optics and lasers from them. Only reason it was not addressed in this video.
@@brandon.wombat is such a video still in the pipeline?
@@madspy2462 Yes, but havent started it yet.
Agreed if holison didn't leaking and fiber breaks
For us newer shooters, it would have been helpful to go over what's so great about the EOTech and Aimpoint.
Can you imagine paying full price to only wear half the glove?
Great example
Or one knee pad.
Thank you for this video. I learned a lot and it was worth my time to watch.
The Holosun evaluation should include the 500 series red dots also.
Then buy that trash
Love the nerd content! Breakdown the components and let everyone know what works and what doesn't
Let's go Brandon! Sorry I couldn't resist. LOL
Excellent video from guys I trust.
Vortex Solar is about $150 now at Focus Camera. Seems solid. I paired with the Arisaka mount.
Appreciate these series you’re putting out. I’m currently putting together a BCM MK12, DDM4v7 and machining some ideas I’ve had. Regardless love this content.
Awesome video! However I noticed you mentioned you dislike the 65moa ring reticles but you have run eotechs in all the videos you have been in. Are you running the EXPS3-1 or just trying to become accustomed to Eotech reticles? Not calling anyone out and this video was very educational, just curious
We really like the EXPS3-1, its normally the Eotech model we use.
I tired the exps3-1 and it is really good, however Eotech needs to fix the pulse width modulation in the sight. At low settings the dot has a poor refresh rate and you can see the dot trail in transition
Please, someone get a shot timer over to Administrative Results 👏
The number would be a confidence boost? Lol 😂
Super valuable info here. Many thanks!
Interesting that the Holosun 515gm wasn’t included since it is essentially a T2 clone.
Holosuns get a different video and discussion points.
Cant wait for the Holosun reviews.
@@TREXARMS Does their relation to the Chinese defense industry factor into those discussion points?
It was a little odd for you to start with Holosun, say it'll be a topic for later discussion, and then later in the video make mention of how much you like the glass clarity on the Holosun when discussing another option. Y'all really need to standardize the bullet-points here...
I don’t get Lucas’s biases against Holosun. Which in turn feels like a T Rex bias. Just seems unwarranted. IMO
Agreed!
Just wait till you see what we have planned
I do have an AEMS. It's been good to me but Lucas shoots several thousands of rounds more than me so I am willing to hear him out.
Errrr America the best errr (even tho all those optics have Chinese parts)
@@TREXARMSI’m waiting on this video
I really like that Eotech created the EXPS 3-1 for all the people that absolutely hate the 68 MOA ring. The 3-1 will be a contender with T-2 when I eventually start building an SBR in the future. I really love the handling of parallax with Eotechs but the Aimpoint just looks so slim and cool.
I've been running an 8T on a unity riser for a while. Got it at a tremendous price and nothing else in that price range remotely compared. It is heavy, but it's taken a lot of abuse and that housing is solid
Which Unity mount for 8T?
Loved this!!
I’d love to know more about why not the vortex Sparc? It’s pretty popular, and now I’m concerned.
Loved this video and really enjoyed Brandon's breakdown: knowledgeable and straight to the point without a ton of fluff but also felt organic and unscripted. I would like to see a red dot breakdown for optics in the $200-$400 range for shooters looking for a solid sight while we save up for a T-2. Keep it up!
They really gave the Holosun fans the runaround. I can sense its going to be a controversial video, and I can't wait. 😂
Cali strong. Amazon won’t even ship some of those to my house. 😂😂😂
Lost me when you tossed the Holosun on the floor. We get it , y’all are rich…..bc we are idiots and line your pockets.
Why did you toss the Holosun like that? I can’t take you bozos seriously now.
Great Video, lots of work went into it. I'd love to see your Holosun review video
Me: watching anxiously with my Holosun
Edit: me: crying with my Holosun
I definitely want to see prism scopes next. All 3 of them on the market im genuinely curious to see the outcome, considering the real fight is 2nd place
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Great video, more content like this, please!
Hs403/503 suck, and some of the 515 models do too. Ive had good success with the 515gm though, especially passive nvg. Looking forward to the deep dive.
good job Brandon. do more of these.
the fact that he is ex military his opinion would even more valid. something i notice about red dots, that it will be more effective if the optic is smaller. since i feel that you arent suppose to peek into the optic, but you need to treat it like an iron sight. so those red dots with narrow tunnel sight is the most effective in my opinion. all you need to do is place that narrow hole peek/window on the target in the distance. you dont even need to pay too much attention to the red dot indicator itself. and using the hole as an ironsight-like alignment. because with the bigger peek like the EXPS, you would only get distracted by how the red dot could move around (parallax) in the middle of the frame(something most video gamers dont know ). so those narrow smaller pipe/scope/tunnel reddots are the better more effective ones.
Love this type of nerdy stuff. Y’all do some great T&E so we don’t have to. Much love from Texas!
kinda wish you would have done the top end Holosun AEMS unit
Really enjoyed the video and the information for myself and the civilian sector. Greatly appreciated. Thank you. Keep up all the great work. Gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling of how much you guys all do as a company for the armed prepared citizens!
This is the kind of content I want. I want the real MARSOC level evals here. I wanna know what the good sh*t is, but specifically I wanna know how the 'good sh*t' actually performs and what properties it has, not just a list of features and a general statement of 'yeh it works I guess after putting only a couple hundred rounds through it'. I wanna know what their value is like and how durable they are, but performance, testing, and interface is king
Love these types of videos. Helps people like me out a lot that can only buy one of these kinds of optics. And I also really enjoy the amount and type of testing you guys do. I recommend people buy products on your website for those reasons. Keep it up!
With the people asking "why not X Aimpoint/Y Eotech/Holosun," they're explicitly testing non-Aimpoint/Eotech options and are doing a separate video for Holosun. Maybe listen a little more to the video while watching
YAY! I GET TO LEARN ABOUT OPTICS NOW!!