Unless you absolutely need SDI, I don't know why anyone would choose this over the Z Cam E2-M4 which records ProRes, supports higher frame rates, has better dynamic range, and costs $500 less.
as an E2 M4 owner I'll share my 2 cents. the in built codec is fairly robust for most shooters and i like the SD-UHS II card slots over the eye watering price tag of a Cfast 2.0 card.. then having a SDI out for something like a shinobi is a pleasure. though I don't need gen lock and Prores is nice though and an industry standard. The M4 also has a nicer body and buttons i feel Lumix have some catching up though they're clearly feeling the heat from Zcam. finally the slow mo is awesome
@@LatestMerch Seems like the logical choice... although, I sent my S1H in for service THREE weeks ago and they are barely sending it back, hopefully it ships out today (but I doubt it). I sent them very detailed notes and reference images and they still could not figure it out. I am a Lumix Pro Red member, whereas you are suppose to receive a loaner camera if you don't get your camera back in 7 business days. They repeatedly denied me. So what am I saying? Don't be so quick to bash the new guy, because from my experience Panasonic customer service doesn't appear to be all that good. Actually, I am second guessing my choice to pick the S1h over the ZcamF6.
Was going to say this. I'm not sure if he saw it or not while shooting. If so - why didn't he say "let's see if the auto focus will track that deer in the background?"
Also, they didn't use the camera for a long time to find the perfect setup, each camera needs different settings, even if, the philosophy of filming is the same.
I've had this for about 3 months and I solely use it on a ronin SC. Went from a c200 on a ronin 1 to this little rig. No drop at all in quality. Raw is nice but when you're filming 3 projects a day, the all intra is much better for quick turnaround. Files play super smooth in davinci studio. Files are half the size of the raw c200 files. rig weighs about 1/9 of what my old rig weighed. It's awesome.
I hope DPReview can continue to give us great reviews like this one on portable video-centric cameras from Blackmagic, Red, ZCam, and others. Even a review of the new Panasonic camcorders would be great. I know the sensors are small but they seem very capable. Thank you for your excellent work.
You really gave this BGH1 a hard time for a focusing test. I'd have suggested to include a second approach in some less difficult scene and with 60p settings, otherwise many viewers might consider that it just sucks at AF, which is not always the case.
Unusable autofocus if you ask me. I would never get it on the field unless stopped down a lot. But very good for lower level studios with some decent lighting. For pro studios there are better options out there. Still nice to see more and more options
Why would this modular-type, gimbal-friendly body have IBIS of all things? Plus, the GH5S sensor is apparently too big for Panasonic's 5-axis stabiliser
@@DollyRanch Having a small body that's capable of run and gun without a gimbal, with the GH5s sensor would have been great. I mean... at this price point, why shouldn't I buy the Z-cam? Nearly the exact same features and build. The only thing Panasonic does well is IBIS and video codecs. Take away IBIS, and there's plenty of other options.
Power flexibility is a very nice feature. Put it anywhere, two card slots, many more updates are coming so M43 is still and will be a very go to camera ! Put up a 4k video image from a fool frame and a M43 image can you tell the difference ? Great connectivity so it's your subject and content that counts !
Hey! I'm interested in the BGH1. The only downside is it doesn't come with Batteries or a charger. I decided to go with the native Panasonic batteries, however the charger is seemingly way overpriced (it actually should have come included in the package). Anyways do you have any experience with any other chargers for the Native Panasonic BGH1 batteries? The one Panasonic sells is mostly plastic and costs $219.
The closest competitor to this camera, are all the ZCam Cameras and the big one that comes to your mind is the BM Pocket 4K? Really? You even mention the Hasselblad before a ZCam :D
ZCAM E2 is the same price for the Multicam model. The advantages that ZCAM has are 4K 120 FPS and RAW. Panasonic has much more of a reputation for reliability than ZCAM.
@@robertm3951 Go ahead and call me a Z-Cam fan boy. Z-Cam E2 4K shoots 160FPS and 240FPS HD. Z-Cam shoots Z-RAW internally but is not used often by most z-cam users due to no native NLE support (transcoding is required for Z-RAW). About reputation on reliability - just ask users in the Facebook Z-Cam E2 group for their honest opinions.
I am trying to wrap my head around this. Why wouldn't I just get a GH5s? Or GH5. A used on in great condition for less than $1040.00 USD at BH Photo video. I get what some will like this, but this one is a tough sell for my workflow. Maybe with BGH-1 is great for a multi-cam setup it would be ideal. $2000.00 is pretty steep though at least for me. Your mileage may vary.
The bgh1 only shoots 4k60 in 10bit 4:2:0, not 4:2:2, in 4:53 . Also, I think you guys ignored the e2 m4, while being 500 dollars cheaper. Has a very similar form factor, has the same sensor, shoots prores, h.264, h.265 and raw internally, and shoots 4k at up to 160fps as well. So that is a much more appealing option for many people.
@@FabledFew Unless you need the camera to be ultra small and light, which the bgh1 is about 400g lighter then the e2 m4, and you need those connection, yeah I agree, the e2 offers so much more for so much less.
Would the use cases be comparable to cameras like the Z-Cam series, or the previously referenced RED Komodo? I feel like a popular use case would be to use a monitor on it rather than a computer interface most of the time, but I suppose I'm biased because that's just how I would use it myself.
@Blake Byers - Yes - even looks super similar to the design of the Z-Cam. The only thing this camera has over the z-cam, in my opinion, is the SDI out. The Z-Cam has evolved so much over the short span of their lifetime with advanced connectivity and syncing and as far as image quality goes, Z-Cam is by far superior. For the money, the BGH1 lags behind.
How has this held up over the past 2 years? I've seen a lot of reviews around its release but nothing newer. Can it be controlled by a monitor such as the Portkeys LH5P? Using a phone app on set is wonky at best. How about video formats? I saw some talk about BRAW so is that working? Thirdly, I know there are 2 sd card slots but is that the only storage option? Will 4k 60 even record to SD? So many questions.
3:10 lol, either the sensor is so tiny or the lens so wide it hardly has any DOF and makes it easy to mask if it's in focus or not (and still struggles a bit)
A couple questions! 1) The old V-Log L used to clip at 80 IRE, does this new V-Log L have a higher clipping point? I’d love to play with some sample footage to see what we’re getting out of the highlights. 2) My GH5S gets really noisy right before switching circuits (800-1250 ISO has awful horizontal noise in the shadows, then 1600 ISO looks fine), I would love to know if you’re seeing that same kind of performance here.
About time! The gh4 had all of this stuff and the gh5 stipped it all away! It's so nice to see them FINALLY have an update to the GH4 that's more serious. It's not as cutting edge as it should be, but it's a good step. I don't think blackmagic are too worried. Also, the GH cameras have always had a touch screen you can turn off, that's the best part.
Those huge connector covers look like they would be a *major* annoyance, flopping around and interfering with a camera cage. Can they be removed without tearing them off ?
This camera is a rip off of the ZCam, which has more features (eg phone tethering) for a cheaper price. Surprised the reviewers didn't mention this at all.
On the Pro's side: You don't mention all us m4/3 peeps with an investment in lenses. That's what keeps me looking at the BMD Cinema 4k for example. "Building Out" is all very well if you're in the business of selling this stuff. Maybe selling your own stuff. But, really! Sometimes you just have to say... slow down big fella! Keep looking for the technology/convergence curve pay-backs. Thanks for the info!
Wait, if they added 4k 60p 4:2:2 10-bit, can't they add this to GH5s via firmware update? Since they have the same sensor? Infact, I remember them saying at the gh5s release that they would in fact be adding 4k 60fps to gh5s in a future firmware update...so where is it? How about at least 4k 60fps 4:2:0 10-bit? Also that shot on the gimbal looks the same as gh5s on a gimbal, full of terrible microgitters. Does panasonic have any plans to release any type of gyro based post-stabilization software, similar to Sony's Catalyst browse?
As an another AX53 user I feel your pain, but I'm afraid the reason behind no proper updates is simple: almost non-existent user base. A camcorder offers superior form factor and UI/UX compared to a hybrid still-video camera, but you rarely see anyone using one. For someone upgrading from a phone or an older DSLR, the larger sensor, interchangeable lenses and better still photography features are probably more important. On a (
@@sikaheimo That's it, that's all I'm looking for. The image quality in daylight from the AX53/43 or VX1 is really impressive, I am not asking for higher than that. And what you lose with a smaller sensor you gain in zoom range, camera size and price, so again I'm happy at ~1/2" size. All I want is to be able to film and then after slow the footage down to maybe 15fps so it's still relatively smooth but running at 1/4 speed for slow-mos. I totally get that camcorder users are a dying breed but 95% of the work is done for Sony or Panasonic, they don't need to design a new body or lens system or anything like that. Just update the sensor and processor in there current models to output 4K60 H.265 and you have a new camera with specs that I think would sale in reasonable numbers for the amount of work they need to put in. At the end of the day, no market exists when there's no good products to buy. They can't cry that phones have taken all their customers when they are about 6 generations behind phones! Bring out a reason to still use a camcorder over using your phone and I think there is still a reasonable market for it, 'the soccer moms' and people like that.
Hi. The market is no longer there. I've been hoping Sony would replace HX400 camera with a newer model that can shoot 4K. There just isn't enough of a market to justify an upgrade. Basically, the market for mass market camcorders and cameras has essentially been replaced by the smartphone. For the average consumer the smartphone is considered 'good enough' for most purposes, and, they are improving year by year. I think there is still a market for the camcorder but it's more niche now which means any new cameras will probably cost a lot more when they finally appear.
@@rwilifeandtravel TBF the RX10 series is where Sony has tried to move the HX400 users. I have the RX10iv and it really is an amazing camera. It's a lot of money and so maybe some of the old models might suit your budget better but honestly couldn't recommend the RX10iv highly enough and this is coming from someone with a top of the line FF Sony camera too. I just love it's weight, size, speed, flexibility, versatility, battery life, buffer size, focusing speed, etc, etc. But at least you have options, if I was looking to upgrade from the HX400 for similar money I would look at the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ330 (might be called something different in different regions). But this is a quality bridge camera and does 4K video too.
@@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt Hi. I'm familiar with the RX10 range of cameras. I have a RX10ii. At some stage I will upgrade to an RX10iv or its replacement (whenever that will appear). Non of the RX10 cameras have the focal range of the HX400 which I have found great for filming wildlife. The RX10iv has only half the telephoto range. Of course the AF on that camera and image quality is vastly superior to the HX400. A possible alternative option are the Panasonic m43 cameras but Panasonic won't give up on its DFD AF technology which for me is not currently good enough.
Autofocus is STILL horrendous! The pulsing around 3:30 was so bad. Even with the huge depth of field that these M4/3 sensors and lenses have, the camera still had a hard time keeping track of Jordan
I don't know if you plan to do more with this camera, but I have a specific use case for it I would appreciate help investigating. I need a dual purpose camera for my Church- live streaming on Sunday, field work during the week. And it needs to be as easy to use as possible A camcorder would work, but the image quality will suck. With a monitor and a side handle, how well does this work as a camcorder replacement?
I have to say - that's a bloody excellent review of the capabilities of this thing. I've been assuming webcams will move in this direction - £2k not viable for home use really though. And what streamers want I think is lots of shots, so cheap bodies, not powerful ones. At the moment I am using 1/3" chips in CCTV bodies that cost £80 and with MF lenses that cost £8 to £30. The system is great, but the quality is still low. But I could put 20 different shots in a room for the price of one of these without a lens. I won't get the resolution, which is amazing in your video, but it still comes quite a way down my list, and I suspect, for most streamers. So this feels like it's still for a kind of pro/v high end amateur market. If they think my market is the future and want to get a volume product out, I want an even cheaper body system. A box with a hole at one end and a chip at the other. Aperture, shutter, focus and power going in - data coming out. Everything else should be modular/expandable. Want SDI out, battery in, SD card slots - buy separately. 20 cameras in a room is unlikely, but three is very, very likely - four easily in teaching set ups. I don't know if they want this market - but someone is going to fill it. And the bodies are going to be simpler and even more modular and they are going to cost $250 each I'm afraid - but every teacher, every trainer, even a lot of sales people in the world - are going to have three each. And maybe one fancy one.
The BIG problem with this camera is that it still has a lower to low light hampered micro 4/3 sensor. Raise the price by a little bit and slap in a better, less noise prone Super35 sensor at least. As is, this is basically a G Series camera with already outdated guts in a square body with gimped SDI ports (the video output specs via SDI are less than HDMI when it should have allowed for Camera RAW output). I don't think I would ever get another micro 4/3 camera because of how often you need to tinker with the noisy footage, and that's even when taking the time to make sure the exposure is right. A bright, sunny day? No problem-o, but start to get past the golden hour look and the footage is noise city requiring NEAT or some other tool... and that takes extra time away from the production.
So, if you're running a multi-cam setup, is this the kind of camera you really want for that? I would prefer a more traditional camcorder or ENG camera with a small sensor for an application like that...less risk for focus errors with more depth of field. The lack of built-in ND filters is a real bummer too. If I were Panasonic, I would have just taken the JVC GY-LS300 as a template but added more recording options...RAW, 10-bit 4:2:2, and more slow motion. Make it a more complete camcorder with a Micro 4/3 mount. Also, I'm not sure I see the benefit of using a fancy camera as a webcam, at least not for video conferencing. Zoom, Google Meet, Teams, etc. compress the hell out of everything anyway. The cheapo webcam built into my work laptop looks way better just running locally than it does during meetings, so why bother with a fancy camera? If you're live streaming on RUclips or Twitch, I suppose I get that.
Well, anecdotes aren’t data, but I’ve used my Nikon Z7 for Zoom calls and pretty much everyone that has seen the output has remarked that I look “HD”. Just a bit of background blur and a more normal FoV can improve the appearance of the footage immensely.
@@Ildskalli Interesting. Maybe Zoom compresses less than Google Meet, which is what we use. Google Meet has this fake background blur setting that some people I work with have been using. It's terrible and way too aggressive with the blurring. Basically, the person is totally in focus, and everything else, no matter where it is, gets completely blurred out. Maybe I'll hook up my G85 or my OM-D E-M1 Mark II sometime.
Daniel Dougan I’m not sure regarding the compression, but the reality is that, at least in lower-light environments, shot noise is visible even after compression, so using a camera with a larger sensor can definitely improve on that. But I guess that not everyone will see that benefit depending on how their space is lit.
He Jordan now that I know you have video chat with dale Baskin. Would you be so kind and ask him when the tether software will be available for the little panasonic people? You know the g80 type 👋🏽 of people. Thank you 😎
Always amazed that you guys can pull off “welcome back, DPreview TV viewers” flawlessly at the start of each video. What a tongue-twister!
I never realised that those are quite a tongue twister... Now I'm impressed
I wonder how often he reverts back to "Welcome back TCS viewers."
@@CDNChaoZ Certainly much easier to articulate 😉
It is not as much a tongue twister in the Canadian language. This is coming from a nasal Australian.
The segment on 3:10 is out of focus like half of the time, idk why they are still pushing hard on their contrast AF
Yeah the autofocus is still brutal. So disappointing.
literally every camera company just announced a new camera what a lovely year to be a photographer or videographer
I understand Panasonic was never state of the art regarding autofocus performance in video, but this things is in a class of its own!
Unless you absolutely need SDI, I don't know why anyone would choose this over the Z Cam E2-M4 which records ProRes, supports higher frame rates, has better dynamic range, and costs $500 less.
as an E2 M4 owner I'll share my 2 cents. the in built codec is fairly robust for most shooters and i like the SD-UHS II card slots over the eye watering price tag of a Cfast 2.0 card.. then having a SDI out for something like a shinobi is a pleasure. though I don't need gen lock and Prores is nice though and an industry standard. The M4 also has a nicer body and buttons i feel Lumix have some catching up though they're clearly feeling the heat from Zcam. finally the slow mo is awesome
@@LatestMerch zcam has phenomenal support often within minutes on their Facebook group!!! And replacement quickly if needed!
@@LatestMerch Seems like the logical choice... although, I sent my S1H in for service THREE weeks ago and they are barely sending it back, hopefully it ships out today (but I doubt it). I sent them very detailed notes and reference images and they still could not figure it out. I am a Lumix Pro Red member, whereas you are suppose to receive a loaner camera if you don't get your camera back in 7 business days. They repeatedly denied me. So what am I saying? Don't be so quick to bash the new guy, because from my experience Panasonic customer service doesn't appear to be all that good. Actually, I am second guessing my choice to pick the S1h over the ZcamF6.
Zcam is a chinese company and I dont believe in chinese things, period.
@Luke Caldwell Are we forgetting that the ZCAM can shoot RAW?
3:56 is it a dear in the background?
Was going to say this. I'm not sure if he saw it or not while shooting. If so - why didn't he say "let's see if the auto focus will track that deer in the background?"
not sure if YT compression or camera quality, but it really looks kinda crappy...
Also, they didn't use the camera for a long time to find the perfect setup, each camera needs different settings, even if, the philosophy of filming is the same.
Yea the footage looked bad from my first impression...
@Mark Vasquez haha
Interesting product. Would love if Blackmagic would release something with that form factor again.
You turned the deer into Toneh! Let me at the deer! I wanna see it 😂🦌
😂😂😂
Screw the camera. It's all about the deer behind Jordan.
3:57
David Byrne: "It's a multi-purpose shape - a box."
Think outside the box loll
I've had this for about 3 months and I solely use it on a ronin SC. Went from a c200 on a ronin 1 to this little rig. No drop at all in quality. Raw is nice but when you're filming 3 projects a day, the all intra is much better for quick turnaround. Files play super smooth in davinci studio. Files are half the size of the raw c200 files. rig weighs about 1/9 of what my old rig weighed. It's awesome.
I hope DPReview can continue to give us great reviews like this one on portable video-centric cameras from Blackmagic, Red, ZCam, and others. Even a review of the new Panasonic camcorders would be great. I know the sensors are small but they seem very capable. Thank you for your excellent work.
You really gave this BGH1 a hard time for a focusing test. I'd have suggested to include a second approach in some less difficult scene and with 60p settings, otherwise many viewers might consider that it just sucks at AF, which is not always the case.
Unusable autofocus if you ask me. I would never get it on the field unless stopped down a lot. But very good for lower level studios with some decent lighting. For pro studios there are better options out there. Still nice to see more and more options
Jordan's new haircut is on point.
Cool, I was looking for some bricks to build a fireplace.
Kinda sucks it doesn't have IBIS or internal ND...
Why would this modular-type, gimbal-friendly body have IBIS of all things? Plus, the GH5S sensor is apparently too big for Panasonic's 5-axis stabiliser
@@DollyRanch Having a small body that's capable of run and gun without a gimbal, with the GH5s sensor would have been great. I mean... at this price point, why shouldn't I buy the Z-cam? Nearly the exact same features and build. The only thing Panasonic does well is IBIS and video codecs. Take away IBIS, and there's plenty of other options.
Power flexibility is a very nice feature. Put it anywhere, two card slots, many more updates are coming so M43 is still and will be a very go to camera ! Put up a 4k video image from a fool frame and a M43 image can you tell the difference ? Great connectivity so it's your subject and content that counts !
Hey! I'm interested in the BGH1. The only downside is it doesn't come with Batteries or a charger. I decided to go with the native Panasonic batteries, however the charger is seemingly way overpriced (it actually should have come included in the package).
Anyways do you have any experience with any other chargers for the Native Panasonic BGH1 batteries? The one Panasonic sells is mostly plastic and costs $219.
The closest competitor to this camera, are all the ZCam Cameras and the big one that comes to your mind is the BM Pocket 4K? Really?
You even mention the Hasselblad before a ZCam :D
Has DO Review looked into ZCam yet? They have this same form factor and are rocking it right now at a better price. 😎
ZCAM E2 is the same price for the Multicam model. The advantages that ZCAM has are 4K 120 FPS and RAW. Panasonic has much more of a reputation for reliability than ZCAM.
@@robertm3951 Go ahead and call me a Z-Cam fan boy. Z-Cam E2 4K shoots 160FPS and 240FPS HD. Z-Cam shoots Z-RAW internally but is not used often by most z-cam users due to no native NLE support (transcoding is required for Z-RAW). About reputation on reliability - just ask users in the Facebook Z-Cam E2 group for their honest opinions.
It's only 3G-SDI though....
I am trying to wrap my head around this. Why wouldn't I just get a GH5s? Or GH5. A used on in great condition for less than $1040.00 USD at BH Photo video. I get what some will like this, but this one is a tough sell for my workflow. Maybe with BGH-1 is great for a multi-cam setup it would be ideal. $2000.00 is pretty steep though at least for me. Your mileage may vary.
I don't know but I have a feeling they'll release the next five cameras with the same autofocus system lol
What lens were you using for the "webcam" portion at the end?
Have not watched this guy since he switched from camera store to DPreview, glad you doing well buddy....
The bgh1 only shoots 4k60 in 10bit 4:2:0, not 4:2:2, in 4:53 . Also, I think you guys ignored the e2 m4, while being 500 dollars cheaper. Has a very similar form factor, has the same sensor, shoots prores, h.264, h.265 and raw internally, and shoots 4k at up to 160fps as well. So that is a much more appealing option for many people.
And it's $500 cheaper. If you don't need gen-lock, there's really no reason to get this camera over the ZCams.
@@FabledFew Unless you need the camera to be ultra small and light, which the bgh1 is about 400g lighter then the e2 m4, and you need those connection, yeah I agree, the e2 offers so much more for so much less.
Love the colour grading of this video
“One day.” That was sad 🥺
SDI, I'm in love.
Would the use cases be comparable to cameras like the Z-Cam series, or the previously referenced RED Komodo? I feel like a popular use case would be to use a monitor on it rather than a computer interface most of the time, but I suppose I'm biased because that's just how I would use it myself.
@Blake Byers - Yes - even looks super similar to the design of the Z-Cam. The only thing this camera has over the z-cam, in my opinion, is the SDI out. The Z-Cam has evolved so much over the short span of their lifetime with advanced connectivity and syncing and as far as image quality goes, Z-Cam is by far superior. For the money, the BGH1 lags behind.
inspired by Z CAM
Other than the sdi and genlock not really an improvement
this why I buy Z-Cam E2 two years ago as a Nikon user not switch to Sony .
At first I was thinking this was more of a crash cam but now I feel this is engineered toward a multi cam studio setup.
How has this held up over the past 2 years? I've seen a lot of reviews around its release but nothing newer. Can it be controlled by a monitor such as the Portkeys LH5P? Using a phone app on set is wonky at best. How about video formats? I saw some talk about BRAW so is that working? Thirdly, I know there are 2 sd card slots but is that the only storage option? Will 4k 60 even record to SD? So many questions.
Superb, well researched review. Provided just the info I was looking for. Subscribed to your channel. Appreciate the quality content.
3:10 lol, either the sensor is so tiny or the lens so wide it hardly has any DOF and makes it easy to mask if it's in focus or not (and still struggles a bit)
3:56 ‘Keep an eye out for any of that wobbling’
Me: that’s not wobbling, that’s a deer.
I love the Deer in the background!
but why buy this over a zcam e2 f6? or even a sigma fp? am I missing something
nice Criterion t-shirt!
Jordan really is getting better with presenting....good job!
Why would you buy this over the BMPCC4K?
Unlike the BMPCC 4K, this camera is Netflix-approved. It also has SDI, timecode, ethernet, and Genlock, and that is important for certain workflows.
5:02 there was a Sasquatch sharing this shot with him moving through the brush... why did you guys edit him out?
If it was capable of RAW output through SDI it would be perfect. 4k BRAW over video assist on a modular camera like this would be an indie darling
You're in luck. BRAW and ProRes RAW now available.
Two quick questions
1. can you power it on and off remotely?
2. can you load a custom LUT and output that over SDI?
Thanks
If prices is above 800$ it's better to buy GH5 if you plan to use it outside at least once.
Cool if there wasn't a zcam available. Dated picture features. 4k 10 bit all-i in 2021 sheesh
Excellent video breakdown!
A couple questions! 1) The old V-Log L used to clip at 80 IRE, does this new V-Log L have a higher clipping point? I’d love to play with some sample footage to see what we’re getting out of the highlights. 2) My GH5S gets really noisy right before switching circuits (800-1250 ISO has awful horizontal noise in the shadows, then 1600 ISO looks fine), I would love to know if you’re seeing that same kind of performance here.
I think vlog always clips at around 70-80%. I've got an EVA-1 and that does it too. Panasonic seems to love throwing away data.
0:23 WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU DOING JORDAN!!! lol
You should never watch Chris's Leica review with ice castles.
Z cam
About time! The gh4 had all of this stuff and the gh5 stipped it all away! It's so nice to see them FINALLY have an update to the GH4 that's more serious. It's not as cutting edge as it should be, but it's a good step. I don't think blackmagic are too worried.
Also, the GH cameras have always had a touch screen you can turn off, that's the best part.
Also, also, are you STILL in this corona thing? That sucks, dude. Good luck there and I'm happy you're still going strong and making videos like this.
Those huge connector covers look like they would be a *major* annoyance, flopping around and interfering with a camera cage. Can they be removed without tearing them off ?
This camera is a rip off of the ZCam, which has more features (eg phone tethering) for a cheaper price. Surprised the reviewers didn't mention this at all.
As well as WDR, RAW recording and more
I was waiting for Panasonic to release a box cam, but M43? Ugh... Would have preferred a FF above 4K.
Just give us the GH6 with reliable auto-focus and 4k 60fps 10bit 422 internal.
Give me 1 million like to prove to Panasonic that WE want phase detection..
You've got mine, Dan!..
what was the camera used at the beginning of the video?
Disappointed.
VLog-L? L?
Perfect as a christmas gift for kids.
ZCAM anyone? down to the quarter 20s
Hello, a question, what kind of lens does the camera have in the video? Thanks
I love the audio, can anyone tell me what was used to capture the sound in this ep?
On the Pro's side: You don't mention all us m4/3 peeps with an investment in lenses. That's what keeps me looking at the BMD Cinema 4k for example. "Building Out" is all very well if you're in the business of selling this stuff. Maybe selling your own stuff. But, really! Sometimes you just have to say... slow down big fella! Keep looking for the technology/convergence curve pay-backs. Thanks for the info!
a7siii still takes the cake. Can you get me mine already!!!! Im on the list !
Wait, if they added 4k 60p 4:2:2 10-bit, can't they add this to GH5s via firmware update? Since they have the same sensor? Infact, I remember them saying at the gh5s release that they would in fact be adding 4k 60fps to gh5s in a future firmware update...so where is it? How about at least 4k 60fps 4:2:0 10-bit?
Also that shot on the gimbal looks the same as gh5s on a gimbal, full of terrible microgitters. Does panasonic have any plans to release any type of gyro based post-stabilization software, similar to Sony's Catalyst browse?
Thank you Jordan
Where on Earth are the AX53 & VX1 successor? The 4K60 camcorders for
As an another AX53 user I feel your pain, but I'm afraid the reason behind no proper updates is simple: almost non-existent user base. A camcorder offers superior form factor and UI/UX compared to a hybrid still-video camera, but you rarely see anyone using one.
For someone upgrading from a phone or an older DSLR, the larger sensor, interchangeable lenses and better still photography features are probably more important. On a (
@@sikaheimo That's it, that's all I'm looking for. The image quality in daylight from the AX53/43 or VX1 is really impressive, I am not asking for higher than that. And what you lose with a smaller sensor you gain in zoom range, camera size and price, so again I'm happy at ~1/2" size. All I want is to be able to film and then after slow the footage down to maybe 15fps so it's still relatively smooth but running at 1/4 speed for slow-mos.
I totally get that camcorder users are a dying breed but 95% of the work is done for Sony or Panasonic, they don't need to design a new body or lens system or anything like that. Just update the sensor and processor in there current models to output 4K60 H.265 and you have a new camera with specs that I think would sale in reasonable numbers for the amount of work they need to put in.
At the end of the day, no market exists when there's no good products to buy. They can't cry that phones have taken all their customers when they are about 6 generations behind phones! Bring out a reason to still use a camcorder over using your phone and I think there is still a reasonable market for it, 'the soccer moms' and people like that.
Hi. The market is no longer there. I've been hoping Sony would replace HX400 camera with a newer model that can shoot 4K. There just isn't enough of a market to justify an upgrade. Basically, the market for mass market camcorders and cameras has essentially been replaced by the smartphone. For the average consumer the smartphone is considered 'good enough' for most purposes, and, they are improving year by year. I think there is still a market for the camcorder but it's more niche now which means any new cameras will probably cost a lot more when they finally appear.
@@rwilifeandtravel TBF the RX10 series is where Sony has tried to move the HX400 users. I have the RX10iv and it really is an amazing camera. It's a lot of money and so maybe some of the old models might suit your budget better but honestly couldn't recommend the RX10iv highly enough and this is coming from someone with a top of the line FF Sony camera too. I just love it's weight, size, speed, flexibility, versatility, battery life, buffer size, focusing speed, etc, etc.
But at least you have options, if I was looking to upgrade from the HX400 for similar money I would look at the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ330 (might be called something different in different regions). But this is a quality bridge camera and does 4K video too.
@@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt Hi. I'm familiar with the RX10 range of cameras. I have a RX10ii. At some stage I will upgrade to an RX10iv or its replacement (whenever that will appear). Non of the RX10 cameras have the focal range of the HX400 which I have found great for filming wildlife. The RX10iv has only half the telephoto range. Of course the AF on that camera and image quality is vastly superior to the HX400. A possible alternative option are the Panasonic m43 cameras but Panasonic won't give up on its DFD AF technology which for me is not currently good enough.
Trying to focus on Jordan but the gimbal jitter is really distracting me. 03:44
Autofocus is STILL horrendous! The pulsing around 3:30 was so bad. Even with the huge depth of field that these M4/3 sensors and lenses have, the camera still had a hard time keeping track of Jordan
I don't know if you plan to do more with this camera, but I have a specific use case for it I would appreciate help investigating. I need a dual purpose camera for my Church- live streaming on Sunday, field work during the week. And it needs to be as easy to use as possible A camcorder would work, but the image quality will suck. With a monitor and a side handle, how well does this work as a camcorder replacement?
Anyone manage to get power over usb-C? I can't get it to work?
You should compare with : Z CAM E2-S6 Super 35 6K Cinema Camera. It could interesting
The AF when he was moving around was horrible. We are tired of hearing "improved" AF, I rather hear New PDAF or Hybrid AF.
I'm a panasonic user and I never expect good AF from panasonic. As long as you know that you shouldn't expect af from panasonic.
Was pulsing bad as well in the stationary scene. No real improvement in AF from that test
Does someone knows if its the exact same sony imx299cjk sensor from the gh5s? How did they gain that extra dynamic range?
It's a zcam! Love it! Wonder how these compare.
With what camera did you record this video?
I WANT IT
What lens was used during the webcam test ?
Anyone know if I could hook up my Android phone to the BGH1 via HDMI adapter and use it as an external monitor?
To everyone that like this channel and humor - try watching Camera Conspiracies (about 85k subs atm).
I have to say - that's a bloody excellent review of the capabilities of this thing. I've been assuming webcams will move in this direction - £2k not viable for home use really though. And what streamers want I think is lots of shots, so cheap bodies, not powerful ones. At the moment I am using 1/3" chips in CCTV bodies that cost £80 and with MF lenses that cost £8 to £30. The system is great, but the quality is still low. But I could put 20 different shots in a room for the price of one of these without a lens. I won't get the resolution, which is amazing in your video, but it still comes quite a way down my list, and I suspect, for most streamers. So this feels like it's still for a kind of pro/v high end amateur market. If they think my market is the future and want to get a volume product out, I want an even cheaper body system. A box with a hole at one end and a chip at the other. Aperture, shutter, focus and power going in - data coming out. Everything else should be modular/expandable. Want SDI out, battery in, SD card slots - buy separately. 20 cameras in a room is unlikely, but three is very, very likely - four easily in teaching set ups. I don't know if they want this market - but someone is going to fill it. And the bodies are going to be simpler and even more modular and they are going to cost $250 each I'm afraid - but every teacher, every trainer, even a lot of sales people in the world - are going to have three each. And maybe one fancy one.
Can we operate this with a smartphone or tablet ?
I am surprised these guys , was out of cave did not mention how similar it looks to zcam ,
Differences between GH5s and BGH1?
Nice Criterion shirt, Jordan
The BIG problem with this camera is that it still has a lower to low light hampered micro 4/3 sensor. Raise the price by a little bit and slap in a better, less noise prone Super35 sensor at least. As is, this is basically a G Series camera with already outdated guts in a square body with gimped SDI ports (the video output specs via SDI are less than HDMI when it should have allowed for Camera RAW output). I don't think I would ever get another micro 4/3 camera because of how often you need to tinker with the noisy footage, and that's even when taking the time to make sure the exposure is right. A bright, sunny day? No problem-o, but start to get past the golden hour look and the footage is noise city requiring NEAT or some other tool... and that takes extra time away from the production.
So the point of this is a multi-cam broadcasting setting? Don't understand what this is for.
"Very Throwable" pls don't Jordan
He gonna be Linus of dropping cameras soon
very throwable trash
The Panasonic Bovine Growth Hormone?
Atleast the camera didn't shift the focus point on the deer in the background, Panasonic is optimising the Contrast detect I guess
So, if you're running a multi-cam setup, is this the kind of camera you really want for that? I would prefer a more traditional camcorder or ENG camera with a small sensor for an application like that...less risk for focus errors with more depth of field.
The lack of built-in ND filters is a real bummer too.
If I were Panasonic, I would have just taken the JVC GY-LS300 as a template but added more recording options...RAW, 10-bit 4:2:2, and more slow motion. Make it a more complete camcorder with a Micro 4/3 mount.
Also, I'm not sure I see the benefit of using a fancy camera as a webcam, at least not for video conferencing. Zoom, Google Meet, Teams, etc. compress the hell out of everything anyway. The cheapo webcam built into my work laptop looks way better just running locally than it does during meetings, so why bother with a fancy camera?
If you're live streaming on RUclips or Twitch, I suppose I get that.
Well, anecdotes aren’t data, but I’ve used my Nikon Z7 for Zoom calls and pretty much everyone that has seen the output has remarked that I look “HD”. Just a bit of background blur and a more normal FoV can improve the appearance of the footage immensely.
@@Ildskalli Interesting. Maybe Zoom compresses less than Google Meet, which is what we use.
Google Meet has this fake background blur setting that some people I work with have been using. It's terrible and way too aggressive with the blurring. Basically, the person is totally in focus, and everything else, no matter where it is, gets completely blurred out.
Maybe I'll hook up my G85 or my OM-D E-M1 Mark II sometime.
Daniel Dougan
I’m not sure regarding the compression, but the reality is that, at least in lower-light environments, shot noise is visible even after compression, so using a camera with a larger sensor can definitely improve on that. But I guess that not everyone will see that benefit depending on how their space is lit.
made by Z CAM ?
like just to see you guys doing more cine stuff
Got no idea what a vector scope is but I’m pretty sure I need one.
It’s the smart way to preview exposure. But we’re stuck on the stills side with crappy histograms derived from JPEGs in effing 2020. It’s a disgrace.
It’s better for determine in an objective way the color balance and other things related to color.
Kodak predicted the future with the Box Brownie
He Jordan now that I know you have video chat with dale Baskin. Would you be so kind and ask him when the tether software will be available for the little panasonic people? You know the g80 type 👋🏽 of people. Thank you 😎
That name is just making me think of the BFG from DOOM