To me the BIG difference was THREE recalls on my 2022 Sahara 4xe. Had the piece sold within a week of getting the third recall and ordered a gas Rubicon a week later. Order accepted Jan 10 Now the wait begins :)
It's important to note that even at zero battery, the 4XE is still a hybrid, and has the full 470tq on demand. That said, this is a case where both sides are right, depending on the situation. If you live out in the country and don't have access to a good charging point, then the 4XE is basically a more powerful Wrangler with a 700 lb. weight in the middle of it. Without charging, it gets better mpg at lower speeds, but slightly worse mileage at highway speeds. I'm the prime target for the 4XE: live in the burbs, a newly built garage with strong(but still 120V) electric, who usually drives less than 30 miles a day. For me, the 4XE was an easy pick. And I'm looking forward to paying 0 in federal tax, this year. One thing I'd say to potential 4XE buyers: don't get hung up on the 14 hour charging time. For one, like all LIon batteries, it tends to charge the first 70% as fast as the last 30%. If you charge it at 8PM and go to work at 7AM, it will have charge most of the way. I thought I'd be needing to install level 2, but I can count on one hand the number of days in the year I've owned it where I would have benefited from the 2 hour charge. The real life logistics dampen the usefulness.
I got the 2023 Rubicon in October. I love it. I did a lease because it was a zero intrest and I wanted to try out the electric part first. If things keep going as well as it has, in 2 and a half years I'll order my next 4xe, with all the options I want, so its ready when I turn this one in.
That is so awesome! Thank you for checking them out! Many more to come as I am about to get my new microphone setup in the mail and then the real reviews can begin!
My question is there will be a lot con questions about the power battery pack because of age or faulty function, costly expensive for replacement of new power battery like $12k plus labor. How buyers respond when they think and will afraid to buy a used jeep 4Xe which you try to sell it because of the power battery pack last longer or short life..
Good video. Other differences include gas cap, ALL 4xe’s have Dana 44’s, not just the Rubicon, and All have the 4H-Auto that is an option on the gas models. It also has better undercarriage protection than the standard gas engine models. And you touched on it but not sure it was clear the way presented but the storage hump when the seats are down. A shot from the rear storage area would have been good. Other minor differences are that some parts are shared with the JT such as parts of the grill.
I have 2L Turbo 2023 Wrangler, not 4xe, but it's the same engine. 2.0L Turbo is great as it's very flexible regarding the fuel. I tried the recommended 87, as well as 91. Whenever you need more power - 91 octane is used, but because the fuel cost difference 87 vs 91 was pretty significant - I use the recommended 87 all the time. The fuel efficiency they post is for 87 octane, not 91, and surprisingly when i tried it - I did not see much of a difference. Just a bit more power with 91, same MPG.
So while the Hybrid does charge itself while driving it is pretty minimal. Also if you are in true hybrid mode you will always be using some of the battery. Way more than you are charging it with your engine. Also if you truly want to go on just the electric it only lasts for 25 miles or so. 240V will completely charge it in a little over 2 hours, but the 120V takes 12. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
You had to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges - the 4xe vs 2.0L Turbo that clearly shows the 4xe is not as great as FCA tries to market it. But thanks for making the video - it's gonna be very helpful for new customers unfamiliar with FCA drive trains.
@@Circleofcycles2 2.0L Turbo rapidly gains popularity, but it turned out to be an interesting comparison, because even next to V6 the 4xe does not stand out so much.
Sooo with the Window sticker right in front of you, you completely drop the ball on total fuel cost, and list the 3.6 at $2100 yearly in the video. The actual yearly fuel cost is $2100 with a difference between to two vehicles of $700 .... Bruh 🤦🏾♂️
To me the BIG difference was THREE recalls on my 2022 Sahara 4xe. Had the piece sold within a week of getting the third recall and ordered a gas Rubicon a week later. Order accepted Jan 10 Now the wait begins :)
It's important to note that even at zero battery, the 4XE is still a hybrid, and has the full 470tq on demand. That said, this is a case where both sides are right, depending on the situation. If you live out in the country and don't have access to a good charging point, then the 4XE is basically a more powerful Wrangler with a 700 lb. weight in the middle of it. Without charging, it gets better mpg at lower speeds, but slightly worse mileage at highway speeds. I'm the prime target for the 4XE: live in the burbs, a newly built garage with strong(but still 120V) electric, who usually drives less than 30 miles a day. For me, the 4XE was an easy pick. And I'm looking forward to paying 0 in federal tax, this year. One thing I'd say to potential 4XE buyers: don't get hung up on the 14 hour charging time. For one, like all LIon batteries, it tends to charge the first 70% as fast as the last 30%. If you charge it at 8PM and go to work at 7AM, it will have charge most of the way. I thought I'd be needing to install level 2, but I can count on one hand the number of days in the year I've owned it where I would have benefited from the 2 hour charge. The real life logistics dampen the usefulness.
Thanks for the info!
I got the 2023 Rubicon in October. I love it. I did a lease because it was a zero intrest and I wanted to try out the electric part first. If things keep going as well as it has, in 2 and a half years I'll order my next 4xe, with all the options I want, so its ready when I turn this one in.
Thanks for these solid comparison videos Brett. I keep getting all my questions answered from your videos!
That is so awesome! Thank you for checking them out! Many more to come as I am about to get my new microphone setup in the mail and then the real reviews can begin!
My question is there will be a lot con questions about the power battery pack because of age or faulty function, costly expensive for replacement of new power battery like $12k plus labor. How buyers respond when they think and will afraid to buy a used jeep 4Xe which you try to sell it because of the power battery pack last longer or short life..
Good video. Other differences include gas cap, ALL 4xe’s have Dana 44’s, not just the Rubicon, and All have the 4H-Auto that is an option on the gas models. It also has better undercarriage protection than the standard gas engine models. And you touched on it but not sure it was clear the way presented but the storage hump when the seats are down. A shot from the rear storage area would have been good. Other minor differences are that some parts are shared with the JT such as parts of the grill.
50 mpg e? You can’t lose with that
Just bought 4xe for fun !Does 4xe have to use premium i would like to use regular, but was wondering if all warrantiesare covered ? Tx Jo
That is a great question and I will look into that for you tomorrow! I know it is a turbo and sometimes turbos require premium.
I checked the owner's manual in the 4xe supplement of one we have on the lot here and it recommends 87 Octane!
I have 2L Turbo 2023 Wrangler, not 4xe, but it's the same engine. 2.0L Turbo is great as it's very flexible regarding the fuel. I tried the recommended 87, as well as 91. Whenever you need more power - 91 octane is used, but because the fuel cost difference 87 vs 91 was pretty significant - I use the recommended 87 all the time. The fuel efficiency they post is for 87 octane, not 91, and surprisingly when i tried it - I did not see much of a difference. Just a bit more power with 91, same MPG.
If this is self charging, Why would I ever need to plug it in?
So while the Hybrid does charge itself while driving it is pretty minimal. Also if you are in true hybrid mode you will always be using some of the battery. Way more than you are charging it with your engine. Also if you truly want to go on just the electric it only lasts for 25 miles or so. 240V will completely charge it in a little over 2 hours, but the 120V takes 12. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
Bro haven’t even opened the door of wrangler 😢
You had to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges - the 4xe vs 2.0L Turbo that clearly shows the 4xe is not as great as FCA tries to market it. But thanks for making the video - it's gonna be very helpful for new customers unfamiliar with FCA drive trains.
I picked the most popular Configuration against the 4xE.
@@Circleofcycles2 2.0L Turbo rapidly gains popularity, but it turned out to be an interesting comparison, because even next to V6 the 4xe does not stand out so much.
Sooo with the Window sticker right in front of you, you completely drop the ball on total fuel cost, and list the 3.6 at $2100 yearly in the video. The actual yearly fuel cost is $2100 with a difference between to two vehicles of $700 .... Bruh 🤦🏾♂️
Read again...
You should read things more carefully Bruh.
@@Summitauto No I read it right "Bruh", just heard you wrong . So what!!
@@vasile21 Read it right , heard him wrong. My error!!