Fantastic & realistic topic! This reminds us about the warning Dr.B R Ambedkar categorically reminded us while presenting the constitution in the constituent assembly. People handling the constitution are mainly responsible towards the successful implementation!Salute! Best regards!
Fantastic and realistic topic this reminds us about the warming Dr.B R Ambedkar category categorically reminded us of construction and constitutent assembly.
All four of you eminent children of india have a huge responsibilities on your shoulders. Hope you all eminent children of this country often give such important talks on such platforms and also on the stages in public. Kalyan bannerji is the publics voice. Sibal sir please bring Maua Moitra for talks/debates on your platform. Dave sir is the strength for the deprived communities and citizens of India. Kartik is active and we appreciate him. 🙏 India 🇮🇳
The question is do we really deserve democracy? When we are even afraid to ask questions of those who we've elected, when we've become so immune to the horrors happening in different parts of the country in the name of religion, caste and ethnicity, when we're happy being mere spectators, I'm afraid the future is very worrisome. Any doubt why number of people leaving the country is at its highest?
4 Pillars of Indian democracy compromised in a way or the other. We still have hope we just need a broker to deal with them and crowdfund, perhaps our hard earned money may save our democracy.
As a child I saw haft basooli(collection) from poor people in films. You go to millennium town Gurugram ,you will come across practice prevailing even after 75 years of independence. Each rehri wala pays hafta to remain in job.
Constitution was seen as a future for India but what we gained is political parties amend the const for their benefits. Correction :- 2year11month 18 days
Great discussion by the quartet, like a Beethoven symphony. A grand performance on a formidable topic by each virtuoso under Maestro Kapil Sibal. The dialogues and arguments proceeded in its logical journey from one thing to another reaching a complete finale.
A very significant discussion on a very very significant issue by our great scholars and legal and constitutional experts. I salute Sibbal Sahab and other members of the panel for such a kind of discussion.
An amalgation of views courageously expressed by panel members and dynamically moderated in a balanced way by Kapil is laudable and very useful for the public at large and legal professional in particular.
Gentleman, your discussion and its topic are extremely important for the nation. This topic and the debate should be seriously and yet soberly carried out in the universities. The role of religion should be in the personal realm, and that to make us sober, more conscientious, accountable for the well-being of every citizen and, not particular group on the basis of religion, caste, language or ideology. Friends, please discuss on a larger platform how this approach can be taken to the educated middle class, universities, opinion moulders ( eg celebrities), Corporate Leaders, Military top brass, even intelligent religious leaders, Banker, Businessmen.
Sir, before Mr rishi sunak prime minister of great Britain, the one before pm Liz tuss, when Mr boris Johnson resigned, he said with a pride on his face,I'm resigning from the best job of a best country. This is the pride one should say in front of whole world watching the developments going in there. This makes a country proud.---- Sanjay bahal New Delhi india at present San Francisco California USA
Take away of the discussion is mainly to come out from drawing room politics and discussion and develop awareness among people for their Rights educate them on these issues to sustain democracy in the country. Developing true social engineering in favor of nation. And it shouod be in regular practice even not for wining the elections only. Thanks 💕 discussing these issues on this platform.
1."Ancestor's Occupation Based Caste System" & 2. "Religious/Communal hatred" are the Two Chronic Problems of this Land, which are the Origin of Most of the Problems that We are seeing in today's Indian Society & We will continue to witness them in Tomorrow's India also. 🇮🇳🙏
Funnily, as Kalyan Banerjee is lamenting the no love for opposition parties case, Kapil Sibal mock scares him that he'll be getting a phone call from the government after the debate.
दुष्यंत is hard core anti NAMO! Kalyan B is a great actor, shows immense skills in Parliament recently. Karti is son of PC a known Modi hater. Sir KS u too are anti Namo.. U all tried every thing under ur arms to capture Modi when he was CM Gujrat.. With this ur panel is 100 percent anti government and outcome will be on the fixed line...
दवे साहब आपकी बातें बहुत अच्छी लग रहीं हैं सूनने में पर "Eefective medium " पे तो उनका कब्जा हैं। Effective Medium = Fourth pillar of Democracy. और आज की डेट में जिसका इसपे कब्ज़ा हैं, वो मौहल या भौकाल बनाने आगे निकल जाता हैं रेस में, क्योंकि आज लगभग 80-85% लोगों के पास '"Andriod नामक एटम बम "हैं। "भौकाल टाइट तो फ्यूचर ब्राइट "
Mr. Dave is very right.. We as a people have some moral checking to do if we have such immoral institutions and we are not able to do anything about it..
Mr. Sibal, I am a student of Law, I really follow your oral arguments, specially in Article 370, although I don't support your ideology or argument, but I have to say you have an appreciable skill of argument The question which you has made, being a citizen of this country I want to answer, the answer is as follows First thing, constitution doesn't fail in 2024, it's the supreme Law of the land, and we are still govern by it But its fails in 1971 not in 2024 Second, Law is an instrument to govern or control the external behaviour of human beings And Constitution is to govern the external and internal behaviour of the fundamental institutions of the state If institutions or organs of the state fails then is the fault of the Law, because law is made for governance, because it's doesn't achieve it's goal i.e. governance The reason behind this answer is the law must observe it's functions and the behaviour of it's subject Effective and successful laws are never made its always found and made in juncture Lastly, its the only option we have i.e. evaluate the law If today a law fails us then after such chaos we have to evaluate the law considering the reasons for such failure and precautions thereof Conclusively, Constitution doesn't fail today, but it failed in past, and the reason for such failure as per my analysis, was not having pure supremacy of Law on that time. And if it failed then the sole reason will be not evolution with time to time basis (except in case where the Law is, "Ought to be the Law".)
The constitution is set in stone. Why is India spending so much time on it when there are so so many important issues facing India. The government talks about Nehru and Indira and vilifies them. Do they really know what sort of period that was for India. We were a young country facing numerous problems. The way Nehru and Patel handled the situation should be appreciated not condemned. Dushyant is also right when he says those in charge of institutions are weak and virtually a yes man and have no respect or obligation towards the people of the country
The judiciary as the key pillar of democracy and the highest custodian of the constitution has disastrously failed to protect the basic spirit and purpose of the constitution Some highly controversial judgements from the apex court have obviously placed the sanctity and the supremacy of the constitution in serious trouble. The self serving proximity of the judiciary to the arrogance and audacity of the high handed political establishment is always a bad proposition for the impeccable image of strict impartiality that must accompany the soul of the judiciary. Germany under Hitler is a classic case. The judiciary serving as a bondmaid of autocracy invited a cataclysmic catastrophe with far reaching consequences.
Respected Sibal Sir 🙏 Society has lost its moral values. Even ordinary citizens are becoming corrupt and immoral. Please see, good people are silent, bad people are taking advantage of this silence Many efforts are being made to make common people morally corrupt so that society becomes completely irrational and loses the moral and ideological courage to differentiate between good and bad.
Kapil Sibal ji With my limited knowledge I would say that if citizens of the country are strengthend then only we can say that country is strong. All the institutions claim to act in public interest but in actual they are doing the opposite, creating their own fiefdom for their own gain Constitution guarantees economic and social equality, but see the glaring and ever increasing inequalities Regards
I am an advocate as well and highly inspired with these gentlemen and learning from them but 99% of the people of our nation will not understand the high value of their thoughts. They are busy with Religious,Caste and bla bla. Mr. Dave is always Outstanding .
Invite Dr. sudhanshu trivedi, Dr. Anand Ranganathan, Gourav Vallabh, J sai Deepak. also please sir. Invite someone knowledgeable from BJP or right wing also, so that we can know their perspective too.
@gobindsingh3027 look i know, that people have made a confirmation bias in their head about both the wings, I just want to say rise above beliefs, collect, analyse the knowledge make your own judgements based on facts not on mujhe kya suit karta hai. For that you need perspectives from respected knowledgeable peoples not assholes. All that BJP says and done is not completely wrong, all that Congress says and done is not completely wrong. There are always nuances. Warna bhai BJP toh kabhi na kabhi jayegi central se phir congress aayegi, then phir congress bhi BJP he ban jayegi, ya authoritarian leaders like Mamta Banerjee (Modi 2.0) aajyenge.
Sir, even if requirement of obeying whip is removed, even then also party members must obey party directions, else they’ll be forced to resign or may be removed
No judiciary is now being taken personally and individually..... Arrogance of a women judge has killed subhash , the recntly suicidal murder, it was done by judiciary
Biggest tragedy of partition was that lot of intelligent families migrated to India . Every second person in India who can be classified as an intellectual has actually moved there from the area we call it Pakistan now .
It’s ironic that each of the panelists is railing against the institutions etc. But these very people have been an integral part of the system contributing to the whole system to decay. Kapil Sibal giving a clean chit to Karthi Chidambaram by calling cases against him ‘fabricated’ itself is symptomatic of the venality that has pervaded the system and caused it to decline, decay and destroy itself
Dushant Dave is asset to India’s democracy 🙏👏
एसेट की जगह एनिमी 😂
Fantastic & realistic topic! This reminds us about the warning Dr.B R Ambedkar categorically reminded us while presenting the constitution in the constituent assembly. People handling the constitution are mainly responsible towards the successful implementation!Salute! Best regards!
@@biswanathmitra3039 YOU are right sir . Thx.
Fantastic and realistic topic this reminds us about the warming Dr.B R Ambedkar category categorically reminded us of construction and constitutent assembly.
Constitution was blindly copy pasted from British law Govt of India act 1935.
Truthful observations
Bring Mr Dushyant Dave often . He is a real Gem.
kapil sir i cant describe how much i like your work
All four of you eminent children of india have a huge responsibilities on your shoulders. Hope you all eminent children of this country often give such important talks on such platforms and also on the stages in public. Kalyan bannerji is the publics voice. Sibal sir please bring Maua Moitra for talks/debates on your platform. Dave sir is the strength for the deprived communities and citizens of India. Kartik is active and we appreciate him. 🙏 India 🇮🇳
Judiciary has failed the people of India..,.
YES --- They are not accountable to any one -- They have full authority zero responsibility
Imposition of Emergency .😅
Irony is that the panel includes biggest beneficiaries of the status-quo.
@@spg6651 yes
Constitution was blindly copy pasted from British law Govt of India act 1935.
thanks kapil sir for this show,nation need shows like this.
Really important and informative conversation thanks sir ❤💯👍🏻
Sir you are right we so called educated have failed constitution..
Good education by the Kapil Sibal
Respects to all sirs.Namaste.
Thanks kapil sibil very beautiful topic please continue 🙏
We adopted Constitution but not the ability to keep
We need such people to run this nation, lets spread harmony ❤
He he...all the best! Such people are the reason why there will never be harmony.
Absolutely correct constitution of India is a back bone of this country for very very poor or common Man or simple citizen of this country.
Wonderful and meaningful discussions and thoughts
Adv. Dushyant Dave's are outstanding in this discusssion.
The question is do we really deserve democracy? When we are even afraid to ask questions of those who we've elected, when we've become so immune to the horrors happening in different parts of the country in the name of religion, caste and ethnicity, when we're happy being mere spectators, I'm afraid the future is very worrisome. Any doubt why number of people leaving the country is at its highest?
Don't be disheartened it is temporary phase...
Worst face already over ten years back, will never come back. 😅
You can't ask questions as our institutions including the judiciary is compromised
We need to file PIL, so that our Constitution organization like Election Commission will be independent, ED and CBI should be independent.
NO NO -- if they are independent they will be like JUDICIARY very dysfunctional -- We have seen how JUDICAIARY is so sluggish and outdated
All the institutions were at best 10 years back.😅
4 Pillars of Indian democracy compromised in a way or the other. We still have hope we just need a broker to deal with them and crowdfund, perhaps our hard earned money may save our democracy.
As a child I saw haft basooli(collection) from poor people in films. You go to millennium town Gurugram ,you will come across practice prevailing even after 75 years of independence. Each rehri wala pays hafta to remain in job.
Constitution was seen as a future for India but what we gained is political parties amend the const for their benefits.
Correction :- 2year11month 18 days
Great discussion by the quartet, like a Beethoven symphony. A grand performance on a formidable topic by each virtuoso under Maestro Kapil Sibal. The dialogues and arguments proceeded in its logical journey from one thing to another reaching a complete finale.
A political leader has to have a different mind whose motto is just to serve , but not for name , fame or material richness.
Promoting dynasty is best .😅
"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government.” -Thomas Jefferson
@abhinavmishra8923 Perfect ever green truth . Thx for sharing.
कल्याण.. B. VERY NICE OF U TO MENTION STATUS OF judiciary in solution seeking for the nation.
This is the kind of journalism we need and these people are gems.
Opposition parties must be Strategic and Proactive.
Why not Kapil Sibil invite Advocate Harish Salve for discussion?!
He is a morally corrupt man,.
Very nice debate. Good morning
Sir
You are doing an incredible work of pumping oxygen to the “constitution on ventilator”.🙏🏻
Kapil Sibal Saheb, your intermittent smile during the conversation mitigates the seriousness of the country's worrying situation.
Solute to all of you Intellectuals for discussing such kind of volatile issues.
A very significant discussion on a very very significant issue by our great scholars and legal and constitutional experts. I salute Sibbal Sahab and other members of the panel for such a kind of discussion.
very enlightening diuscussion!!! Well needed for these times
An amalgation of views courageously expressed by panel members and dynamically moderated in a balanced way by Kapil is laudable and very useful for the public at large and legal professional in particular.
Gentleman, your discussion and its topic are extremely important for the nation. This topic and the debate should be seriously and yet soberly carried out in the universities. The role of religion should be in the personal realm, and that to make us sober, more conscientious, accountable for the well-being of every citizen and, not particular group on the basis of religion, caste, language or ideology. Friends, please discuss on a larger platform how this approach can be taken to the educated middle class, universities, opinion moulders ( eg celebrities), Corporate Leaders, Military top brass, even intelligent religious leaders, Banker, Businessmen.
Very fruitful debate at this juncture, thanks sirs
Sir, before Mr rishi sunak prime minister of great Britain, the one before pm Liz tuss, when Mr boris Johnson resigned, he said with a pride on his face,I'm resigning from the best job of a best country. This is the pride one should say in front of whole world watching the developments going in there. This makes a country proud.---- Sanjay bahal New Delhi india at present San Francisco California USA
This discussion portrays the deplorable state of all institutions in our country. I hope this video gets a lot more views.
Great team of advocates ...
India's Pride!!!❤
Our Pride too❤
Namaskar sir Chennai sey hoon
Sir you are great person
They are Congress members,.representing Congress views. Only bhakts like their comments. 😢
Take away of the discussion is mainly to come out from drawing room politics and discussion and develop awareness among people for their Rights educate them on these issues to sustain democracy in the country.
Developing true social engineering in favor of nation. And it shouod be in regular practice even not for wining the elections only.
Thanks 💕 discussing these issues on this platform.
Excellent conversation by excellent people needs to be materialized into practice to save our country from the clutches of political mafia.
😞😞😞
5:19 25th November 1949 ?
I am happy atleast you guys came out and vented. Proud of you guys MD, Kalyan and Karti and the host has belled the cat.❤❤❤❤
Please make it in Hindi. Bcos message has to be percolated to the masses. In English there is a very limited audience you will catch. It's a request
Constitution was blindly copy pasted from British law Govt of India act 1935.
Wonderful conversation sir fantastic
Wonder ful discussion thanks
1."Ancestor's Occupation Based Caste System" & 2. "Religious/Communal hatred" are the Two Chronic Problems of this Land, which are the Origin of Most of the Problems that We are seeing in today's Indian Society & We will continue to witness them in Tomorrow's India also. 🇮🇳🙏
Well discussed❤❤❤
These things need be talked to masses in their localities
Funnily, as Kalyan Banerjee is lamenting the no love for opposition parties case, Kapil Sibal mock scares him that he'll be getting a phone call from the government after the debate.
Outstanding conversation on constitution.
दुष्यंत is hard core anti NAMO!
Kalyan B is a great actor, shows immense skills in Parliament recently.
Karti is son of PC a known Modi hater.
Sir KS u too are anti Namo..
U all tried every thing under ur arms to capture Modi when he was CM Gujrat..
With this ur panel is 100 percent anti government and outcome will be on the fixed line...
Modi gave more subsidies to chuslims than Congress era. Muslim appeasement
दवे साहब आपकी बातें बहुत अच्छी लग रहीं हैं सूनने में पर "Eefective medium " पे तो उनका कब्जा हैं।
Effective Medium = Fourth pillar of Democracy.
और आज की डेट में जिसका इसपे कब्ज़ा हैं, वो मौहल या भौकाल बनाने आगे निकल जाता हैं रेस में, क्योंकि आज लगभग 80-85% लोगों के पास '"Andriod नामक एटम बम "हैं।
"भौकाल टाइट तो फ्यूचर ब्राइट "
Mr. Dave is very right.. We as a people have some moral checking to do if we have such immoral institutions and we are not able to do anything about it..
Ruling class has failed the working class in India
You are great sir! I subscribe to your views
Mr. Sibal, I am a student of Law, I really follow your oral arguments, specially in Article 370, although I don't support your ideology or argument, but I have to say you have an appreciable skill of argument
The question which you has made, being a citizen of this country I want to answer, the answer is as follows
First thing, constitution doesn't fail in 2024, it's the supreme Law of the land, and we are still govern by it
But its fails in 1971 not in 2024
Second, Law is an instrument to govern or control the external behaviour of human beings
And Constitution is to govern the external and internal behaviour of the fundamental institutions of the state
If institutions or organs of the state fails then is the fault of the Law, because law is made for governance, because it's doesn't achieve it's goal i.e. governance
The reason behind this answer is the law must observe it's functions and the behaviour of it's subject
Effective and successful laws are never made its always found and made in juncture
Lastly, its the only option we have i.e. evaluate the law
If today a law fails us then after such chaos we have to evaluate the law considering the reasons for such failure and precautions thereof
Conclusively, Constitution doesn't fail today, but it failed in past, and the reason for such failure as per my analysis, was not having pure supremacy of Law on that time.
And if it failed then the sole reason will be not evolution with time to time basis (except in case where the Law is, "Ought to be the Law".)
Dave साहब आप बस ऐक बात बताएंगे की "निर्भया केस " में आज के गोदी कम गधी मीडिया तब क्या कर रहा था ???
Excellent discussion
Mr Kapil Sibal, you should join back to Rahul Gandhi again and directly contribute to his success. He needs you if he has to win the next election
Pl keep it up sir. We want more of Dil se.
What a debate kapil saab👍👍
If this was a Christian majority country there would have been justice regardless of party ✝️🇮🇳✝️
The constitution is set in stone. Why is India spending so much time on it when there are so so many important issues facing India. The government talks about Nehru and Indira and vilifies them. Do they really know what sort of period that was for India. We were a young country facing numerous problems. The way Nehru and Patel handled the situation should be appreciated not condemned.
Dushyant is also right when he says those in charge of institutions are weak and virtually a yes man and have no respect or obligation towards the people of the country
The judiciary as the key pillar of democracy and the highest custodian of the constitution has disastrously failed to protect the basic spirit and purpose of the constitution
Some highly controversial judgements from the apex court have obviously placed the sanctity and the supremacy of the constitution in serious trouble. The self serving proximity of the judiciary to the arrogance and audacity of the high handed political establishment is always a bad proposition for the impeccable image of strict impartiality that must accompany the soul of the judiciary. Germany under Hitler is a classic case. The judiciary serving as a bondmaid of autocracy invited a cataclysmic catastrophe with far reaching consequences.
KS... how did judiciary failed during emergency??
जोहार सर 🙏🇮🇳💕
mr dushyant Dave solo interview
Dushyant sir 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Respected Sibal Sir 🙏
Society has lost its moral values. Even ordinary citizens are becoming corrupt and immoral.
Please see, good people are silent, bad people are taking advantage of this silence
Many efforts are being made to make common people morally corrupt so that society becomes completely irrational and loses the moral and ideological courage to differentiate between good and bad.
D D has made an interesting point that media was not independent during the last 40 years... Kapil u may counter but that remains a fact...
Very good sir
Kapil Sibal ji
With my limited knowledge I would say that if citizens of the country are strengthend then only we can say that country is strong. All the institutions claim to act in public interest but in actual they are doing the opposite, creating their own fiefdom for their own gain
Constitution guarantees economic and social equality, but see the glaring and ever increasing inequalities
Regards
Very apt discussion but something needs to be done without any delay....
I am an advocate as well and highly inspired with these gentlemen and learning from them but 99% of the people of our nation will not understand the high value of their thoughts. They are busy with Religious,Caste and bla bla.
Mr. Dave is always Outstanding .
Good after noon Sir ❤
Invite Dr. sudhanshu trivedi, Dr. Anand Ranganathan, Gourav Vallabh, J sai Deepak. also please sir.
Invite someone knowledgeable from BJP or right wing also, so that we can know their perspective too.
Invite Gurpatwant singh panun too. He is also Sikh freedom fighter.
@gobindsingh3027 look i know, that people have made a confirmation bias in their head about both the wings, I just want to say rise above beliefs, collect, analyse the knowledge make your own judgements based on facts not on mujhe kya suit karta hai. For that you need perspectives from respected knowledgeable peoples not assholes.
All that BJP says and done is not completely wrong, all that Congress says and done is not completely wrong.
There are always nuances.
Warna bhai BJP toh kabhi na kabhi jayegi central se phir congress aayegi, then phir congress bhi BJP he ban jayegi, ya authoritarian leaders like Mamta Banerjee (Modi 2.0) aajyenge.
It is not about cast or religion in our country rather it is about economic prosperity. You have money your nothing matters
Kapil Sibal should have also brought some one from the ruling for this show.
He speaks only among bhakts. 😮
Are my most important comments for the national welfare deleted????? Why?????
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Anybody including above politicians...Your responsibility and duty is Jan Seva what you are after Dhan Seva for self
बेहतरीन गेस्ट बेहतरीन बहस! 👍❤️👍
Right said
You have discussed the problems in the nation, but who will give the solutions to the problems brought out?
Kartik opinion on congress failure is agreeable in my opinion.
Beautiful 🎉
Sir, even if requirement of obeying whip is removed, even then also party members must obey party directions, else they’ll be forced to resign or may be removed
Political leaders must be educated so tht 50% of the issues can be resolved but not all
60 percent MP in first lok sabha were graduate. Nothing improved.
Kapil ji 👍👍👍
Our inability inaction has ruined our great Nation we are proud of
Let's not be mute spectators and watch
Fantastic episode.
Also try to bring a journalist pannel like ravish kumar punya prasunna vajpaye ajit anjum. That will be a treat to watch.
God save honourable kapil sibal
No judiciary is now being taken personally and individually..... Arrogance of a women judge has killed subhash , the recntly suicidal murder, it was done by judiciary
finally. 👍.
Biggest tragedy of partition was that lot of intelligent families migrated to India . Every second person in India who can be classified as an intellectual has actually moved there from the area we call it Pakistan now .
It’s ironic that each of the panelists is railing against the institutions etc. But these very people have been an integral part of the system contributing to the whole system to decay.
Kapil Sibal giving a clean chit to Karthi Chidambaram by calling cases against him ‘fabricated’ itself is symptomatic of the venality that has pervaded the system and caused it to decline, decay and destroy itself