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EVH wasn't the brightest of them and was all wrapped up in that Hollywood bubble with his actress wife. Clapton is the antecedent of that so I understand how their friendship eventually soured.
You really mustn’t say that about Ed. In his many Guitar Player and Guitar World magazine interviews Ed was very bright and astute when talking about the art and his comments on other players were very incisive. He also wasn’t as ‘wrapped up in the ‘Hollywood Bubble’ as you are ASSUMING here. He ridiculed the concept of the ‘rockstar’ , he didn’t go out to many Hollywood parties and he was more the pure musician spending most of his life creating music in his studio. You must do better research before insulting Ed like that…And I think the word you were looking for was ‘antithesis’ rather than ‘antecedent’ 🤔
@@walterevans2118 I don't really care what you say. I grew up in their area, San Marino, although a decade later, and never liked the guy. The times I met him and Roth, they were always pricks and sometimes bullies.
@@jayclarke6671 Well , Roth was. That’s clear . He was a bully even with other band members , especially against Michael….But Ed I always heard was kind to fans..people like Steven Rosen, Jas Obrecht and Andrew Bennett testify to this.
I get that Eddie was drunk, but damn, if Eddie gave Eric a compliment he cudda at least said 'thanks!' and walked away. Maybe we'll never know what really happened leading up to that.
Here’s the thing ….ERIC was and is a Blues SPECIALIST. So he was likely to be more critical of other players doing the blues. I don’t think EVH ever had a ‘rivalry’ with Eric the same way Eric might have had one with Jeff Beck…Edward didn’t start emphasising that he only liked Eric’s Cream material after their disagreement about Star Fleet jam. Ed was emphasising this BEFORE the bust up….During a phone in Howard Stern interview in 2006 Edward kind of fired back when Stern brought up Eric . When he asked whether Clapton was the best guitarist in the world Ed replied -‘well, he’s trying to do B.B King. And B.B King has got him beat.’ …But I still think Ed respected Eric’s playing right up to when he left us in 2020….(Paul)
Eddie Van Halen is great. But the problem is if you moonwalk fast eventually it’s just running backwards. Someone like Chet Atkins is insanely good at guitar but people don’t know because he isn’t running. He’s moonwalking. Music isn’t the Olympics. It’s not higher faster stronger. It’s the juxtaposition of rhythms and melodies. It’s like soccer. You can’t win by running fastest. You have to move with the ball at your feet. It doesn’t matter how fast you go. What’s most important is how you work with the ball at your feet.
Sounds like Clapton needed to learn how to take a compliment. Eddie(who was the most popular guitar player on the planet at the time) was giving heaps of praise to Clapton for many years and then Clapton pretty much threw it all back in his face over an improvised blues jam.
LoL! & It’s hilarious just to listen to their awful blues jam, while picturing Clapton increasingly steaming mad & madder over their gesture as if they intended to insult him! After EVH and Brian May had assumed that they were honoring Eric Clapton with the blues jam on their Star Fleet Jam collaboration side project, which they sent to empress Eric with. While Eric said their rock fusion song was great, he utterly detested their drunken, drugged out blues jam, that really ended up insulting Clapton. Brian & Eddie were like school children, who proudly put their crude drawing up on a refrigerator, all for their father to storm in & rip it down and crumple it up & toss it in the garbage bin all disgusted, before spanking their fragile ego’s publicly! Eric stuck the knife in them, calling their blues jam horrible & thoroughly rejecting them as his disciples. Where they wished they’d never sent their gift horse, to be looked in the mouth & met with such critical feedback! Then EVH called Clapton a “Teabag” & Brian May called Eric a “Fruit Cake” rejecting Eric Clapton, whom they had originally intended to honor Eric Clapton, & dedicate a song to, him as a form of a tribute, that got received so poorly, that they all had a lifelong falling out over it, although Brian May continued to praise Clapton publicly, Eddie began only referring to Jimmy Page as his early influence. Eric & Eddie had so many parallels, they were so much alike. Both came out red hot, & were met with high praise, for being trendsetting revolutionary, transitional tonal innovators, that inspired a flood of imitators who rapidly eclipsed them. Both recoiled from the double edged sword of fame, after a few years in the spotlight, & then faded themselves on their trajectories with alcohol & drugs. Both starred in extremely dysfunctional bands with notoriously hot headed personalities, & both were in bands that were always compared to Led Zeppelin. Both players totally switched up & changed their highly acclaimed styles that had initially put them on the map. Both had disappointed their early fanbases, that only wanted to hear them play their older hits. Both enjoyed their bigger success initially, yet kept acquiring enough newer fans to continue on. Both players got shook & rapidly regressed, at the first instance, that their status was challenged by all the new upcoming guitarists who they had inspired…🎸
I love Clapton the musician but he is a "questionable" human being at best, noted incidents of racism, wife beating Patty Boyd all the while constantly cheating on her, rampant drug use, his attorneys suing a lady in Germany over a single copy of an $11 dollar bootleg recording from the 1980 in 2021 not to mention his antivax and masks idiocy in which he chose to sing on a song that compared covid lock downs to slavery and the pro fox hunting for sport stances, and now this petty grievance about "how" he was idolized,,, great talent? sure. I own a ton of his material. But a questionable person at best.
Are you on Clapton’s or Van Halen’s side? And if you enjoyed the video, make sure to like it and subscribe to the channel. It helps me out massively! Thanks!
Never knew this history before, great video and editing 🙌🏼🙌🏼
EVH wasn't the brightest of them and was all wrapped up in that Hollywood bubble with his actress wife. Clapton is the antecedent of that so I understand how their friendship eventually soured.
You really mustn’t say that about Ed. In his many Guitar Player and Guitar World magazine interviews Ed was very bright and astute when talking about the art and his comments on other players were very incisive. He also wasn’t as ‘wrapped up in the ‘Hollywood Bubble’ as you are ASSUMING here. He ridiculed the concept of the ‘rockstar’ , he didn’t go out to many Hollywood parties and he was more the pure musician spending most of his life creating music in his studio. You must do better research before insulting Ed like that…And I think the word you were looking for was ‘antithesis’ rather than ‘antecedent’ 🤔
@@walterevans2118 I don't really care what you say. I grew up in their area, San Marino, although a decade later, and never liked the guy. The times I met him and Roth, they were always pricks and sometimes bullies.
@@jayclarke6671 Well , Roth was. That’s clear . He was a bully even with other band members , especially against Michael….But Ed I always heard was kind to fans..people like Steven Rosen, Jas Obrecht and Andrew Bennett testify to this.
@@walterevans2118 ok
@@jayclarke6671 Sounds to me like they both judged you correctly.
I get that Eddie was drunk, but damn, if Eddie gave Eric a compliment he cudda at least said 'thanks!' and walked away. Maybe we'll never know what really happened leading up to that.
Here’s the thing ….ERIC was and is a Blues SPECIALIST. So he was likely to be more critical of other players doing the blues. I don’t think EVH ever had a ‘rivalry’ with Eric the same way Eric might have had one with Jeff Beck…Edward didn’t start emphasising that he only liked Eric’s Cream material after their disagreement about Star Fleet jam. Ed was emphasising this BEFORE the bust up….During a phone in Howard Stern interview in 2006 Edward kind of fired back when Stern brought up Eric . When he asked whether Clapton was the best guitarist in the world Ed replied -‘well, he’s trying to do B.B King. And B.B King has got him beat.’ …But I still think Ed respected Eric’s playing right up to when he left us in 2020….(Paul)
Eddie Van Halen is great. But the problem is if you moonwalk fast eventually it’s just running backwards. Someone like Chet Atkins is insanely good at guitar but people don’t know because he isn’t running. He’s moonwalking. Music isn’t the Olympics. It’s not higher faster stronger. It’s the juxtaposition of rhythms and melodies. It’s like soccer. You can’t win by running fastest. You have to move with the ball at your feet. It doesn’t matter how fast you go. What’s most important is how you work with the ball at your feet.
Sounds like Clapton needed to learn how to take a compliment. Eddie(who was the most popular guitar player on the planet at the time) was giving heaps of praise to Clapton for many years and then Clapton pretty much threw it all back in his face over an improvised blues jam.
Edward as a teenager in Pasadena used to reserve bowling lanes using Eric’s name . …lol
You summarized it perfectly.
i'm a boomer but i have to admit that clapton was exceptional but eddie was the master when it came to guitar.
Derek and the Dominos 1984?!?!
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LoL! & It’s hilarious just to listen to their awful blues jam, while picturing Clapton increasingly steaming mad & madder over their gesture as if they intended to insult him! After EVH and Brian May had assumed that they were honoring Eric Clapton with the blues jam on their Star Fleet Jam collaboration side project, which they sent to empress Eric with. While Eric said their rock fusion song was great, he utterly detested their drunken, drugged out blues jam, that really ended up insulting Clapton. Brian & Eddie were like school children, who proudly put their crude drawing up on a refrigerator, all for their father to storm in & rip it down and crumple it up & toss it in the garbage bin all disgusted, before spanking their fragile ego’s publicly! Eric stuck the knife in them, calling their blues jam horrible & thoroughly rejecting them as his disciples. Where they wished they’d never sent their gift horse, to be looked in the mouth & met with such critical feedback! Then EVH called Clapton a “Teabag” & Brian May called Eric a “Fruit Cake” rejecting Eric Clapton, whom they had originally intended to honor Eric Clapton, & dedicate a song to, him as a form of a tribute, that got received so poorly, that they all had a lifelong falling out over it, although Brian May continued to praise Clapton publicly, Eddie began only referring to Jimmy Page as his early influence. Eric & Eddie had so many parallels, they were so much alike. Both came out red hot, & were met with high praise, for being trendsetting revolutionary, transitional tonal innovators, that inspired a flood of imitators who rapidly eclipsed them. Both recoiled from the double edged sword of fame, after a few years in the spotlight, & then faded themselves on their trajectories with alcohol & drugs. Both starred in extremely dysfunctional bands with notoriously hot headed personalities, & both were in bands that were always compared to Led Zeppelin. Both players totally switched up & changed their highly acclaimed styles that had initially put them on the map. Both had disappointed their early fanbases, that only wanted to hear them play their older hits. Both enjoyed their bigger success initially, yet kept acquiring enough newer fans to continue on. Both players got shook & rapidly regressed, at the first instance, that their status was challenged by all the new upcoming guitarists who they had inspired…🎸
I love Clapton the musician but he is a "questionable" human being at best,
noted incidents of racism, wife beating Patty Boyd all the while constantly cheating on her,
rampant drug use,
his attorneys suing a lady in Germany over a single copy of an $11 dollar bootleg recording from the 1980 in 2021
not to mention his antivax and masks idiocy in which he chose to sing on a song that compared covid lock downs to slavery
and the pro fox hunting for sport stances,
and now this petty grievance about "how" he was idolized,,,
great talent? sure. I own a ton of his material.
But a questionable person at best.
Eddy and Brian They can't play the blues... I've known that for years..