JND is definitely running some kind of scam. Their ludicrously priced statues very rarely have good likenesses, but people are willing to shell out THOUSANDS for them for some inexplicable reason. This Joker is so egregiously bad I feel insulted, and I didn't even order the set 😂
I wouldn't say rarely. Arthur Fleck, Mera, both Wonder Woman, Pattinson Batman/Bruce Wayne, Henry Jones (Sean Connery), Reeve Superman/Clark Kent, Platinum Nightclub Harley Quinn, 2 recent Squid Game characters are among their best work. Some of the misses would be the first Harley Quinn, Cavill Superman, John Wick, Indiana Jones. People pay the prices because of the realistic likenesses, tailoring of the clothes, they're just such great centerpieces. Of mention is the outfit on the Reeve Superman looks fabric, but it's actually sculpted! Also JND currently is the only statue company with multi-media of resin, fabric, rooted hair, glass eyes, and silicone. But yes the likeness on this 1/6 scale Joker is off and the prices for their figures are outrageous. Hot Toys and Inart are still the go to for 1/6 scale figures. JND should just stick with statues.
JND seems to think too highly of their own abilities. Joker's face is depressed and his smile is truly terrifying. Even at this price... I think it would be better to just buy several Hot Toys.
$1700 is for two figures/sculpts. The standard version was like $800 before shipping which is just 1 figure, but more like $1000 for overseas. Either way not worth.
Yeah I'd say this should be in the $500 ballpark, $900-1000 for double feature. Even that might have people unhappy tbh. I think the serious face with the coat looks quite great overall tbh, so I wouldn't be too unhappy getting that for 500bucks, but it'd still feel expensive. No idea what they're thinking with those pricepoints and even more with those return policy FU's
It's ugly for sure. but the single pack is $1000. The Type C which includes two full figures, two heads, two bases, two dogs and a bunch of extras is the $1700 price point.
Before teasing 001 they announced 456 for Squid Games 2. They have to stick with statues because they’re better at those than 1/6 even though their statues are hit and miss sometimes
I think Inart still wins just based on the higher quality accessories and better likenesss to Heath. HT has better hair implants and price. JND offers neither 😅😅
No wonder Justin wanted to cancel this, here in Oz to buy that figure Is $ 2,600 Aus dollars..allowing for exchange rate... Give your self an upper cut J&D looks like you gave up on this figure and your customers .
It looks like a 1/6 scale figure. For $1700, I would have expected to be unable to tell whether it was lifesized or 1/6. The InArt version looked life-sized in photos.
Hopefully JND learns from this. They are going to have a lot of cancellations. If they can't make great figures, fine, but then make them cheaper than the competitors.
JND is a garbage company. Most of their portrait sculpts are way off, the bases are lame aa hell, & the price is never justified. PR & customer service; also aweful.
JND definitely wins the award for the MOST greedy company ! $1700 for a 1/6 scale figure and on top of that, the body isn’t even silicone-it’s just a regular plastic body. WTF is wrong with you, mr. JND CEO❓❓❓ Instead of next-level quality, it’s next-level greed.
can we talk about the fact they deliberately made the proto look worse for the comparison photos, they made the hair look all bushy and out of place, pretty sus
I honestly hate JND as they're overcharging for mid ass products all the time. The fact that their company is still kicking is beyond me. Must be a money laundering scheme of some sort
I have one JND statue and I really like it, but nothing they’ve done in 1/6 even remotely interested me because of the price. Now that they released one and it’s universally considered bad, I dont even know how anyone could consider this. It’s Inart and hot toys for 1/6 JND is just playing pretend.
What I don’t understand about this is their 1/3 scales statues are $2200 I mean what kind of pricing is this? So for 1/6 is significantly smaller but almost the same price, but worse quality. Why?
Omg wild loved the Tropic Thunder reference his head was so bad I didn’t notice how bad the hands are as well. I thought the JND John Wick statue was trash but this one is even worst. I swear this company needs to rethink their strategy, a bad customer service history, inability to accept criticism just wild. This company needs to pack it up, I would never trust doing business with them.
The collecting community is 100% to blame for this. They are ultra critical of every detail, yet still buy. Then demand more features, accessories, details, etc. Then are still ultra critical, yet still buy at the higher price. Then demand more and still pay more. Rinse and repeat. You only see this with Marvel and DC collectors.
At no point was I tempted to buy this - I'm extremely happy with my IA rooted 2-pack. Spending $1700 on the JND version was never on the menu. For those who ordered it, I sincerely hope it looks better in hand or that you are able to get your money back.
I bought their first 1:3 statue, and though people's reactions were up and down, in real life mine at least was amazing. And didn't cost much more than 1800 at the time. 1:3, silicone with glass eyes, all that stuff. And then those statues went up and up in price. And now the 1:6 scale figure is almost the same price as that first Joker? Uh, ok fellas. Whatever...
It’s a scam , because I emailed them before the delivery period and when they got back to me they just said it’s ready now for payment , but I emailed before the final invoice !!!???
I do think that looks quite incredible for a 1/6th in terms of how much detail there is, but $1700 is *WAY* overpriced. Even at 700 it'd be expensive. $500 ballpark... sure. But.. hey, people keep paying.. unfortunately. I had been hoping that when the 1/6th scale things start coming out that I could be able to afford some maybe, but seems that's a big nope. (Man, I wish I could get rid of my damn social anxiety/anxiety and get a well paying job... D: ... though in all honesty, I'd still never justify a 1700 pricepoint for a 1/6 scale, pretty much no matter how perfect it would be. I mean with money like that I could buy a perfectly realistic 1:1 scale Tifa. Just saying! Not that I necessarily would... b-but I could!)
Ok hear me out, I think this price is crazy….I don’t understand the high end cost but there are aways collectors that enjoy having figures that are limited
I mean I'd say the issue is pre ordering. A $1700 1/6 figure is just stupid. However. The issue people have is that when they cancel they lose half the NRD. Which every company does on shipping. You never get that back. People pre ordered fron the prototype and technically the only real change is the hair and it looks better. The problem is pre ordering and expecting something different.
Honestly, I’m glad Justin is one of the people being scammed by this. It is only fair since he aided in scamming literally hundreds of people with ToysWonderland and accepts ZERO responsibility for their advertisements. Me falling victim to that as well.
The deposit alone can get you the original 1/6th scale hot toys joker on ebay right now. Might not look 100% accurate but at least you can sleep at night not having spent 1700$ on 1 figure alone.
yet another Joker that I have no interest in even really looking at let alone buying. Why does every company insist that the Joker would be a great first figure to produce? I like the dogs but no way I'm buying them.
I lost about 20 figures at Toyswonderland because I purchased from there after watching Justin's videos. You'll excuse me if I don't care that he lost his deposit.
I think if customers indulge and show interest by pre-ordering a USD1700 1/6th scale figure that is bad practice. I would argue it's worse than the company offering the product. They're a business and will try what it can to get the most money out of us. And then we say yes! I will be willing to pay that much! If there were zero pre-orders, what would JND have to do? They would quickly have to change their strategy. Since people will be buying this. USD1700 will not be the price ceiling for long. Short of having internal organs modeled inside the figure. No 1/6 figure should cost that much.
You should be honest and scroll down on the joker jnd page and show the conditions which say that once the shipping period has passed, it is due when sending you the final invoice, they do not refund you anything, who are you trying to fool?
Rather than loose $510, pay the rest and put it on eBay for $3000, someone will buy it because they’re lunatics 😂 The Tom Cruise hands got me in stitches, the prototype pics literally had those rubber hands on the ground out of the way where you couldn’t see them properly, surprise!
I ordered the Hot Toys version of The Joker, can't wait till it comes. 1700 is a little steep, but if people can afford it and want to spend the money,hey. I do think the Hot Toys dx version is better, just my opinion. Love the details, the base, which is a great touch. Hot Toys hit it out the ballpark.
It does look very impressive. You'd have to be a real nit picker to complain about anything about it. But heck, the price?! Nothing is worth that price
Well I guess it’s safe to say that theses companies are watching your channel…. Because you’re definitely in there TARGET 🎯 Demographic🤑🤑🤑 with figures like this. There looking for collectors that are late to the game with large amounts of disposable money. 💰
I had originally thought this was always the case but since they just changed the policy after the fact is ridiculous. I will say though there’s already versions of this Joker by other companies so why does someone need to get them all. Of course people can buy what they want I’m just saying….
When you pre-order you are accepting the prototype, which may or may not be improved, but the company is not subject to making it mandatory. In this case, the final product has improved. Where is the scam? The scam is your channel. Don't you know how a pre-sale works?
Even if that figure was the hands down greatest 6th scale figure of all time, that price is absolutely nuts. You could get 5-6 amazing hot toys for that much.
Your video is sad and funny at the same time, you don't have the figure in your hand and you criticize it? You're Justin's lapdog, what's wrong with JND not giving you free samples like other brands? Haha
I personally don't see any of the issues in the figure that you do from these photos. It looks good to me, and if it's all hand made, in terms of pure man hours crafting something like that, I could see $1700 being a fair price for the labour costs. The question is whether all that extra effort and cost elevates it above the competition. The InArt and Hot Toys figures still look amazing - and better in some regards - for a fraction of the price. Maybe there is a lot of attention to detail in the JND Joker that the others lack, but does that really result in something sufficiently better than those figures to be worth $1.7k? Would you really notice it compared to the others?
If Hot Toys starts charging 1700 bucks for sixth scale stuff I am 100% out. Screw that. That’s wild lol.
We're to blame for this, we spent years indulging companies that make overpriced figures, so this was inevitable.
The whole market seems way overpriced to me, but people pay it.
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You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT 👍
We are not customers anymore,but consumers.
@@RetroLinkF1 Oh it is, no matter how good they look, they're still just toys, they shouldn't cost a $100 or more.
1700$?!
I don't even see 400$ in this... 😮
JND is definitely running some kind of scam. Their ludicrously priced statues very rarely have good likenesses, but people are willing to shell out THOUSANDS for them for some inexplicable reason. This Joker is so egregiously bad I feel insulted, and I didn't even order the set 😂
I wouldn't say rarely. Arthur Fleck, Mera, both Wonder Woman, Pattinson Batman/Bruce Wayne, Henry Jones (Sean Connery), Reeve Superman/Clark Kent, Platinum Nightclub Harley Quinn, 2 recent Squid Game characters are among their best work. Some of the misses would be the first Harley Quinn, Cavill Superman, John Wick, Indiana Jones. People pay the prices because of the realistic likenesses, tailoring of the clothes, they're just such great centerpieces. Of mention is the outfit on the Reeve Superman looks fabric, but it's actually sculpted! Also JND currently is the only statue company with multi-media of resin, fabric, rooted hair, glass eyes, and silicone. But yes the likeness on this 1/6 scale Joker is off and the prices for their figures are outrageous. Hot Toys and Inart are still the go to for 1/6 scale figures. JND should just stick with statues.
The profit margin is so good, there's no need to strive for excellence
JND seems to think too highly of their own abilities.
Joker's face is depressed and his smile is truly terrifying.
Even at this price... I think it would be better to just buy several Hot Toys.
They came in with an aggregate as fuc attitude, they gonna get humbled by a lot of 1/6 collectors.
I'd wish his smile was terrifying, but he kinda just looks insecure like he's at an awkward family reunion and can't wait to get home haha..
JND is really shooting themselves in the foot here
They aren’t offering anything exceptional so I’m not gonna be sorry to see them go.
I wish they'd get to know that too.. but "sold out"... damnit.
(Though, yeah, that customer dissatisfaction will no doubt affect the future...)
I love that your entire analysis of the figure is just "No" repeated over and over lol
$1700 is for two figures/sculpts. The standard version was like $800 before shipping which is just 1 figure, but more like $1000 for overseas. Either way not worth.
Yeah I'd say this should be in the $500 ballpark, $900-1000 for double feature. Even that might have people unhappy tbh. I think the serious face with the coat looks quite great overall tbh, so I wouldn't be too unhappy getting that for 500bucks, but it'd still feel expensive. No idea what they're thinking with those pricepoints and even more with those return policy FU's
It's ugly for sure. but the single pack is $1000. The Type C which includes two full figures, two heads, two bases, two dogs and a bunch of extras is the $1700 price point.
This will be one and done. nobody will ever preorder any figure from them now unless they reverse their policy back to the original one.
Before teasing 001 they announced 456 for Squid Games 2. They have to stick with statues because they’re better at those than 1/6 even though their statues are hit and miss sometimes
If you want the best sixth scale joker get the Hot Toys 2.0 version at 1/4th the price. Its even better than inart, imo.
I think Inart still wins just based on the higher quality accessories and better likenesss to Heath. HT has better hair implants and price. JND offers neither 😅😅
No wonder Justin wanted to cancel this, here in Oz to buy that figure
Is $ 2,600 Aus dollars..allowing for exchange rate...
Give your self an upper cut
J&D looks like you gave up on this figure and your customers .
It looks like a 1/6 scale figure. For $1700, I would have expected to be unable to tell whether it was lifesized or 1/6. The InArt version looked life-sized in photos.
Where was everyone a year ago when they announced this? It wasn't worth $1700 then and it isn't now.
Hopefully JND learns from this. They are going to have a lot of cancellations.
If they can't make great figures, fine, but then make them cheaper than the competitors.
JND is a garbage company. Most of their portrait sculpts are way off, the bases are lame aa hell, & the price is never justified. PR & customer service; also aweful.
JND wants to be an luxurious brand in a already luxurious hobby.
I am happy to stick with my InArt Ledger Joker (sculpted hair) as it looks amazing!
JND 1/6 scale is a road i will not be going down.
This kinda joker says a lot of what they think of their customers and what they think they can charge. Jokes out.
JND definitely wins the award for the MOST greedy company !
$1700 for a 1/6 scale figure and on top of that, the body isn’t even silicone-it’s just a regular plastic body.
WTF is wrong with you, mr. JND CEO❓❓❓
Instead of next-level quality, it’s next-level greed.
My inart sculpted hair joker looks better then this lol
can we talk about the fact they deliberately made the proto look worse for the comparison photos, they made the hair look all bushy and out of place, pretty sus
I honestly hate JND as they're overcharging for mid ass products all the time. The fact that their company is still kicking is beyond me. Must be a money laundering scheme of some sort
I have one JND statue and I really like it, but nothing they’ve done in 1/6 even remotely interested me because of the price. Now that they released one and it’s universally considered bad, I dont even know how anyone could consider this. It’s Inart and hot toys for 1/6 JND is just playing pretend.
This guys voice irritates me
What I don’t understand about this is their 1/3 scales statues are $2200 I mean what kind of pricing is this? So for 1/6 is significantly smaller but almost the same price, but worse quality. Why?
Omg wild loved the Tropic Thunder reference his head was so bad I didn’t notice how bad the hands are as well. I thought the JND John Wick statue was trash but this one is even worst. I swear this company needs to rethink their strategy, a bad customer service history, inability to accept criticism just wild. This company needs to pack it up, I would never trust doing business with them.
The collecting community is 100% to blame for this. They are ultra critical of every detail, yet still buy. Then demand more features, accessories, details, etc. Then are still ultra critical, yet still buy at the higher price. Then demand more and still pay more. Rinse and repeat. You only see this with Marvel and DC collectors.
that Joker spells without the R 😂😂😂
That’s all unfortunate, but what’s not unfortunate is that amazing deep cut on the Tom Cruise hands. I was going in the same direction. Good pull!
The hate on the headsculpt is crazy. I don’t think it’s worth the price but overall it still looks good.
bold for them to price a 1/6 scale more than 1/4 scale pricing
Not sure how this is a scam. It looks almost exactly like the prototype that they promoted, which looked bad from the start.
I love how everyone tearing this down isn't even getting it, and in hand thing always change. 😂
At no point was I tempted to buy this - I'm extremely happy with my IA rooted 2-pack. Spending $1700 on the JND version was never on the menu. For those who ordered it, I sincerely hope it looks better in hand or that you are able to get your money back.
I’ll just stick with my Inart. ^^’
Damn.. was hoping for them to do well.. need a super premium 78 superman.. well hopefully Inart gets theirs up to par!
That’s 1/3 scale prices… it’s insane
At the price it better pay the bills and cook me dinner every night 😂
I bought their first 1:3 statue, and though people's reactions were up and down, in real life mine at least was amazing. And didn't cost much more than 1800 at the time. 1:3, silicone with glass eyes, all that stuff. And then those statues went up and up in price. And now the 1:6 scale figure is almost the same price as that first Joker? Uh, ok fellas. Whatever...
It’s a scam , because I emailed them before the delivery period and when they got back to me they just said it’s ready now for payment , but I emailed before the final invoice !!!???
This thing is NOT worth a Honda Civic 😅
I do think that looks quite incredible for a 1/6th in terms of how much detail there is, but $1700 is *WAY* overpriced. Even at 700 it'd be expensive. $500 ballpark... sure.
But.. hey, people keep paying.. unfortunately. I had been hoping that when the 1/6th scale things start coming out that I could be able to afford some maybe, but seems that's a big nope.
(Man, I wish I could get rid of my damn social anxiety/anxiety and get a well paying job... D: ... though in all honesty, I'd still never justify a 1700 pricepoint for a 1/6 scale, pretty much no matter how perfect it would be. I mean with money like that I could buy a perfectly realistic 1:1 scale Tifa. Just saying! Not that I necessarily would... b-but I could!)
That’s a whole ass Jazzinc Batmobile 🤦🏻♂️
no wonder Justin wanted to cancel his order it's baaad haha
Right
Looks trash never was a fan of jnd even their statues looks bad they are overhyped and overpriced
Ok hear me out, I think this price is crazy….I don’t understand the high end cost but there are aways collectors that enjoy having figures that are limited
I'm sure somebody will buy this. On the site, it was 2k, and sold out, really? Nuts!
I mean I'd say the issue is pre ordering.
A $1700 1/6 figure is just stupid. However. The issue people have is that when they cancel they lose half the NRD. Which every company does on shipping. You never get that back. People pre ordered fron the prototype and technically the only real change is the hair and it looks better.
The problem is pre ordering and expecting something different.
Honestly, I’m glad Justin is one of the people being scammed by this. It is only fair since he aided in scamming literally hundreds of people with ToysWonderland and accepts ZERO responsibility for their advertisements. Me falling victim to that as well.
As cliche as it sounds, isn’t art subjective?
This In Art fluffing you have been dishing out lately is pure comedy 🎭
As much as I love the Heath Ledger Joker.. I'm over these figures. We've seen this one a million times already.
Since you mentioned them, is Toys Wonderland a scam?
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The deposit alone can get you the original 1/6th scale hot toys joker on ebay right now. Might not look 100% accurate but at least you can sleep at night not having spent 1700$ on 1 figure alone.
Hell no. Happy with the new HT and my Inart versions.
Ledger Joker has been milked to hell but I get it. Hope they spend their resources in other characters moving forward.
Its bullshit, overpriced and bad.
Catwoman on the batcycle was by Queens Studios not JND
he looks like he's just come out of the grave with all the soil dust still all over him
I hope that shit is in yen 😂
They aren't japanese, they're Korean, Korean currency is won
Free shipping😂😂😂 Head sculpt is just terrible
yet another Joker that I have no interest in even really looking at let alone buying. Why does every company insist that the Joker would be a great first figure to produce? I like the dogs but no way I'm buying them.
I lost about 20 figures at Toyswonderland because I purchased from there after watching Justin's videos. You'll excuse me if I don't care that he lost his deposit.
I think if customers indulge and show interest by pre-ordering a USD1700 1/6th scale figure that is bad practice. I would argue it's worse than the company offering the product. They're a business and will try what it can to get the most money out of us. And then we say yes! I will be willing to pay that much! If there were zero pre-orders, what would JND have to do? They would quickly have to change their strategy. Since people will be buying this. USD1700 will not be the price ceiling for long. Short of having internal organs modeled inside the figure. No 1/6 figure should cost that much.
You should be honest and scroll down on the joker jnd page and show the conditions which say that once the shipping period has passed, it is due when sending you the final invoice, they do not refund you anything, who are you trying to fool?
Rather than loose $510, pay the rest and put it on eBay for $3000, someone will buy it because they’re lunatics 😂 The Tom Cruise hands got me in stitches, the prototype pics literally had those rubber hands on the ground out of the way where you couldn’t see them properly, surprise!
The 1/6 Hulk Buster 2.0 is less than this.
I ordered the Hot Toys version of The Joker, can't wait till it comes. 1700 is a little steep, but if people can afford it and want to spend the money,hey.
I do think the Hot Toys dx version is better, just my opinion. Love the details, the base, which is a great touch. Hot Toys hit it out the ballpark.
I don’t think the figure looks terrible, but it ain’t worth that crazy price. Not at all.
hopeing to see at rt arf trooper review soon
It’s en route 😬
I’m just over Joker. Too many of them, everyone is doing them. If the Squid Game statues was in 1/6 scale then I’d be interested.
They know dummies will pay anything so they do it just because. Other companies will see this and start hiking prices.
For this price he should have remote controller and be able to walk around and talk.
Neutral face looks amazing,but I'm not a 1/6 collector
For a couple hundred less you can buy a 4 foot metroplex
not much poseability,standing straight like statue,better buy a statue. I cant see any resemblance of heath ledger in this figure
It does look very impressive. You'd have to be a real nit picker to complain about anything about it. But heck, the price?! Nothing is worth that price
what most annoying thing about this JND release that this joker colors are all off, not even accurate the skin looks like fkn wax
Its not even worth $100 to be honest
Well I guess it’s safe to say that theses companies are watching your channel…. Because you’re definitely in there TARGET 🎯 Demographic🤑🤑🤑 with figures like this.
There looking for collectors that are late to the game with large amounts of disposable money. 💰
J F Sebastian dressed up as Keith ledger Joker, great concept from JND, don't see what the fuss is about...
We should blame Kojun, this is his baby and masterpiece of turd 😅😅 I'm surprised people willingly shelled money based on the mediocre prototypes 😂😂
I had originally thought this was always the case but since they just changed the policy after the fact is ridiculous. I will say though there’s already versions of this Joker by other companies so why does someone need to get them all. Of course people can buy what they want I’m just saying….
1700 was for the 2 pack
looks like a cosplayer from time square.
Looks like all the other 1/6 joker to me 😂 I rather just go get 3 maybe 4 hot toys for my donations
Jnd shoot their self into foot with this pricing. Hot toys and Inart are exist.
I am going to lose my deposit............ soooo ugly. Scammmm
When you pre-order you are accepting the prototype, which may or may not be improved, but the company is not subject to making it mandatory. In this case, the final product has improved. Where is the scam? The scam is your channel. Don't you know how a pre-sale works?
I'd get it, if I was rich.
JND scaming people now
At best it's 500$ per dog
menuda basura...kojun esta muyyy sobrevalorado y jnd tambien
Even if that figure was the hands down greatest 6th scale figure of all time, that price is absolutely nuts. You could get 5-6 amazing hot toys for that much.
Your video is sad and funny at the same time, you don't have the figure in your hand and you criticize it? You're Justin's lapdog, what's wrong with JND not giving you free samples like other brands? Haha
Simp.
I personally don't see any of the issues in the figure that you do from these photos. It looks good to me, and if it's all hand made, in terms of pure man hours crafting something like that, I could see $1700 being a fair price for the labour costs. The question is whether all that extra effort and cost elevates it above the competition. The InArt and Hot Toys figures still look amazing - and better in some regards - for a fraction of the price. Maybe there is a lot of attention to detail in the JND Joker that the others lack, but does that really result in something sufficiently better than those figures to be worth $1.7k? Would you really notice it compared to the others?