Do Vitamin C Serums Really Work? | Cosmetic Formulator Talks
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Is Vitamin C even effective in skincare? Do you really NEED Vitamin C?
Time to talk about an apparently controversial skincare ingredient again! For as long as I can remember, Vitamin C has been regarded as a skincare superstar. A Gold Standard Active, if you will. Recently, I feel like a lot of people have turned their tide on her though and are now feeling as if she's not worth it or she doesn't work! So I'm sharing my perspective.
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My favorite Vitamin C products:
Rohto Mentholatum Rohto Melano CC Concentration Measures Essence
vana.ly/931o7z (Stylevana; Use code INF10RAMON for %% off)
bit.ly/3mY5c6E (YesStyle; Use code GLOWBYRAMON for %% off!)
Naturium Vitamin C Complex Serum
shrsl.com/2v0me
Naturium Vitamin C Super Serum Plus
shrsl.com/2v0mh
Indeed Labs vitamin C brightening drops
bit.ly/390acTo (International; Cult Beauty)
bit.ly/3eTWTrp (ASOS)
bit.ly/2P6jfvc (Ulta)
go.magik.ly/ml/15w28/ (Superdrug)
Murad Vita-C Glycolic Brightening Serum
bit.ly/3eXMlrA (International; Cult Beauty)
bit.ly/2NwZfRQ (International; SpaceNK)
bit.ly/3eY8LJ4 (Sephora)
Stratia C+C Serum
www.stratiaskin.com/products/...
Glow Recipe Pineapple-C Bright Serum
bit.ly/3aOtNYE (US: Sephora)
bit.ly/3nVpcr3 (Glow Recipe site)
bit.ly/37SANSg (UK; Cult Beauty)
Sunday Riley C.E.O. 15% Vitamin C Brightening Serum
bit.ly/3h9LbIH (International; Cult Beauty)
bit.ly/3h9qlJy (International; SpaceNK)
bit.ly/3diL38T (Sephora)
The Ordinary Ascorbic Acid 8% + Alpha Arbutin 2%
bit.ly/3hb9cPF
Skin&Lab Vitamin C Brightening Serum 30 mL
bit.ly/31cJpPr (YesStyle; use code GLOWBYRAMON or %% off)
bit.ly/3rekg1E (Stylevana; use code INF10RAMON for %% off)
00:00 Intro
02:11 It's Overhyped
03:38 It's Overpriced
05:58 It's Irritating
07:16 It's Unstable
08:46 Are Derivatives Worth It?
10:31 There Are Better Alternatives
11:35 It Don't WORK For ME!
13:03 Final Thoughts
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Yes to this video! You nailed it! So informative and easy to understand. Thank you. Also, the killing new hairstyle damn!
I was just thinking if i need vitamin c or not, then u drop this 😩✊ perfect timing!
I am absolutely LOVING the new hair. Truly suites you well!
Such a well thought out video! I totally agree with your point that we should be looking for multi dimensional products that utilize various ingredients alongside vit c that can fight hyperpigmentation
Thank you for making this video!!! As someone who tried a lot of different Vitamin C options (from both western and eastern markets), I just never found one that actually "worked". I thought that it was just my skin not liking this ingredient, but now I see another point of view of it. This video was so informative! Personally, I think that Hyaluronic Acid and Snail Mucin are too much overhyped.
Great video! I discovered you channel only yesterday, but I have been watching your videos non-stop ever since 🤩
Since I incorporated vitamin c serum into my routine, it has been a game changer for me, helps with my pigmentation, and works well with all my sunscreens. My favourite right now is Geek and Gorgeous vitamin C 😍 ❤. Gracias guapo.
I’ve tried 4 vitamin c’s and they all worked but some I didn’t like the price(paula’s choice) or the texture(ordinary 23%) but timeless and geek and gorgeous are my favorite currently
@@jessiebop0 I have heard so many good things about Timeless vitamin C too, but I'm yet to try it out though 🤔.
I just got G&G and am excited to try it!
@@Tessyighoskincare I'm obsessed with the Timeless Vitamin C! It's one of the rare products that are worth the hype!❤️
@@karatalksaboutstuff7333 oh that's good to know, I'll definitely try it out some day.
Hey Ramon! Have ya ever done a hairstyle routine?? I really love your new style, and would love to see the steps you take to get that look!!
we stan this channel!
The only vitamin C I have tried is the Face Theory one and I would say I did see improvement in the brightness of my skin, but there is something about the formulation that just didn't play well with most sunscreens I tried pairing it with, which lead me to use it less and less and eventually stop altogether. That aside, I wanted to say that I love these kinds of videos: I feel like your content always summarizes what is being claimed by all sides really well, and then shows how "the truth", if there is one, is much more nuanced than boicotting or veneration. 😋
When I first started my skin care journey last Nov (I'm 53), The Glowmaker by Maelove was the first product that made me say wow! My skin visibly lightened up. I now use Maelove's and Timeless Vitamin C .
My next C purchase will be Geek and Gorgeous. I enjoy rotating Vitamin C. I keep mine in the fridge and they always stay clear.
Please talk about copper peptides and tranexemic acid!
Thanks for introducing me to Allison’s page!
Wow I learned so much from this. Thanks for sharing your research!
Ever since I've been using a Vitamin C serum, I feel like my skin's become softer and brighter. I'd recommend the Glow Maker by Maelove :).
Thank you for making this!
I stopped with vitamin C and have been using TO Resveratrol and Inkey List Q10. Skin looks good and I do not have to worry about a serum going off.
Thank you for clearing this up. Can you tell us which Vitamin C derivative or formulation is best for stimulating collagen? Love you videos! ❤️
I love vitamin c so much. I use it every other day. Thanks for the video. Will you talk about EGF and some you would recommend? I'm new to EGF and am very interested in them. I've used Klairs Youth Drop and BradCeuticals gold serum.
I’m loving the timeless vitamin C serum. I love it because it’s an air tight pump
It's soooooooo good!🔥🔥🔥
You’ll be prying my Timeless Vitamin C serum out of my cold dead hands.
Im literally usung that at this moment 🥺🌸
@Hello It's K i really do! I got the smaller size its got a weird scent but the serum itself works well
have any of you had any problems with it leaking?
OOOHHHH can’t remember if this is the first time we’ve seen that HAIR but 🔥🔥🔥
Why do brands who make VC with ascorbic uses dropper bottle....i will never understand
I’m loving the new haircut ❤️
I took my vitamin c serum out of my morning routine 2 weeks ago and my skin now looks less irritated!
Same! I’m reluctant to go back to using but it def helped me with my hyperpigmentation
Reason why I'm hesitant to use vitamin c at all
If a product does, look for pH the formulation is formulated at, and a lower percentage (10%). Those two factors are major contributors to irritation. I’ve listed my favorite vitamin C products in the description box!
Do you have any links for an article or something that compares all of the alternatives mentioned at 9:18? I'd be interested to know which ones are better for pigmentation vs collagen synthesis like you said x
Serumtology (SAP) was my first and favorite so far
Timeless (LAA) was okay
Ordinary (LAA) with Arbutin broke me out which caused more PIH
Biossance Dark Spot Serum (3OE) did nothing noticeable
Currently using Ordinary LAA powder with their reversatrol serum and really like it.
Biobare is on my possibility list for next, since I’m sure mixing powder will get old.
Haven't tried a dedicated Vitamin C serum, and don't plan to anytime soon, but I just realized a sunscreen I'm trying to finish up (MD Solar Sciences tinted spf 30) has Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate (Vitamin C) and it doesn't irritate me. Good to know I'm getting some antioxidant benefits from my sunscreen 😊
I like Sweet Chefs Vitamin C + Ginger Shot serum. It doesn't oxidize and it hasn't irritated my skin whatsoever.
Where have you been hiding from me?? I’m sooo subscribing to this channel 😍😍
after switching from vitamin c to coq10 AMAZING ANTIOXIDANT my skin is glowing and healthy. specially when i apply it before my sunscreen. AND ZERO IRRITATION
Does coq10 work for hyperpigmentation too?
I feel like I’m supposed to be using vit c bc it helps the efficacy of sunscreen... but it ALWAYS gives me bumps under my skin.
Another ingredient video I would like to see like this would be on Colloidal Oatmeal and I love Vitamin C so far my favs and they are pricey are by Perricone Md I actually did buy one from Naturium as a gift for a friend and she really loves it I use other Naturium products and I am tempted to try the Vitamin C I’m just hooked on my other which works well with my regimen
Which of the products you listed would be best for very sensitive skin? I have tried the ordinary vitamin c suspension and drunk elephant’s vitamin c and I had immediate allergic reactions to both. Thank you!!
omggg the hair in your straight era!!!
I prefer other antioxidants because they 1. work just as well if not better 2. will not irritate me or potentially oxidise As for the skin brightening benefit, I use a dedicated product (prescription). Could you please explain why you think vit C performs better under sunscreen than other antioxidants? Thank you 💚
vitamin c doesn't seem to work with my sunscreens
I apply it let it absorb then go in with sunscreen
somehow it starts to shed after 1 hour
is it mainly anti oxidative, and do those mainly provide benefit as a preventative measure or does it actually improve skin tone by itself?
Loving the new hairstyle.
I would love your opinion on the Avene Aoxitive Defense Serum!
So needed this!
After everything being thrown around about vitamin C being useless it's nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about.
I use perricone md ccc + ferulic brightening complex 20% and I love it. Can you do a review of Perricone MD's products? I haven't seen any RUclipsrs do a review on any of their products and curious to know why.
Hope someone can help.. What are good alternatives for vitamin c in terms of brightening and have antioxidant properties as well? Thanks!! 💞
Can you make a video about galactomyces!!! 🙏 thank you
I use the glow recipe one sometimes and I have to buffer with moisturizer. Tried putting it in the fridge but it was clumping and had to pull it back out. I love glow recipe but probs won't buy again, I'll stick to their other products.
That was so informative! Thank you for making this 🙏🏼✨
What do you think about Vitamin C Ampoules? Does that keep it stable?
I LOVE vitamin C!!! I will NEVER be without!
Azelaic acid, in my opinion is a majorly overhyped ingredient.
Much love 😊💕🇨🇦
I have started using Regena C30 Pro Vitamin C Serum because its anhydrous and won't oxidize but its breaking me out
Fortunately, my skin can handle 15% L Ascorbic acid. Unfortunately, I haven't found a good enough product that is within my budget and does not degrade immediately. I hate that almost everything comes in a dropper, which is a really bad idea for vitC
Have you ever tried p50 1970? It’s honestly the most expensive skincare I buy regularly but that and retain-a micro and geek and gorgeous vitamin c have changed my skin to where I don’t wear makeup anymore and I have 0 wrinkles at 35. I always use spf 50 also.
I'm glad it works for you, but combining phenol (in P50 1970) and Retinoic Acid (Retin-A) can be an absolute recipe for disaster for most people's skin barrier function.
@@damalulani I don’t use it at the same time, I use retin-a micro 2-3 times a week only at night with no other actives. The phenol isn’t a lot on the ingredient list. Dr. Dray did a video on it but it’s the best acid I’ve found for my skin and I use it in the day time 3-4 times a week.
Vitamin c has worked great for my skin, the only one from the ordinary that worked was the 23% version when I mixed it with moisturizer at night but I prefer to use retin-a micro at night. Paula’s choice 15% worked great but was too much $$. Timeless if I purchase it from their website and geek and gorgeous both make their’s weekly and it’s under 20 and those worked the best for me.
Timeless is available at Target 🎯 and Target.com!
@@stephaniebissett5719 I’ll have to try and get it there, I bought it from Amazon and it came oxidized and I read to buy it directly from the website because that is the freshest option 🤷♀️
Hey Ramón what do u think of the inky list 30% vitamin c ? 🤔
I am so sensitive to vit c I always break out 😭 anyone feel the same and have any recommendations?
Ramon! I just can’t get used to the new do lol. You look cute tho 😘
Have you seen the Hyper! Serum for hyperpigmentation?! Can ypu review it?
I've been loving the Good Skin Days C's the Day -- 10% ascorbic acid so it's not too irritating, plus niacinamide, licorice root and camu camu. I've definitely seen my skin tone improve since using! It does go off after 4 months and in my experience after about 2.5 it's fully oxidized, but I usually use it up in about 2 and, to your point, it's got so many benefits that I'm not fussed about the vit c oxidizing
Probably because vitamin c is a hit or miss for most people, it can be irritating and very unstable. I tried to love it but no matter what formulation, percentage, or derivative I used, it would always break me out (not like severe acne) than if I were not to use it at all and my skin would feel inflamed or hot. Topical vitamin c is overrated and not my cup of tea. However, research shows that eating vitamin c rich foods or supplementing with vitamin c in your diet has the same collagen boosting properties as topical vitamin C.
Ramon - what is your opinion on those DNA repair serums? They are not cheap, do they work? Thanks!
Love the naturium and glow recipe vitamin c
Lol I’m WELL aware you do
Yep I’m following.
The only thing I disagree with is the complete write-off of derivatives (not by Ramon specifically, I mean in general). The theory is that a derivative needs to be converted into LAA in the skin to work, this hasn't been completely proven. In fact there have been independent studies which showed that Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate not only penetrates faster than LAA, but showed better results in terms of increasing collagen synthesis and provided comparable UV protection and brightening effect as LAA, which doesn't fully the support the assumption that all the benefits of a derivative come from the LAA that it converts to.
Yeah that’s what stymies me… who said THD (or any derivative) has to convert to LAA to be effective? Can’t it me an antioxidant, collagen booster and brightening agent on its own?
Goddamn your hair looks good
I'd love to see a video review about Vegreen Nature Mucin Serum which is meant to be an alternative to snail mucin. It's made from wild yams.
Ooh super interesting! I’d been using the Tecco Skin serum, which is a similar concept!
@ yes, Rob over at the fab Mad About Skin channel just mentioned it in today's video and I thought "Ohhhh this sounds interesting! I'd like to trial a snail mucin alternative". I do totally adore my Cosrx snail products but if I can get a similar result with a vegan product I'd be very willing to switch to that. Thanks for responding so fast Ramon. I love your channel and hope it keeps growing. xoxo
The only vitamin c that has worked for me it PC C15 (wallet crying). I had an amazing glow and next I tried the Melano C hoping to get the same results (nothing happened). I’m now looking for an alternative Vit C coz I can’t keep up with PC price points 😭😭😭😭😊
Try geek and gorgeous vitamin c, trust me. It’s as good if not better than paula’s choice
@@jessiebop0 I’m already using GG Agame 5, so far no spectacular results but I’ve only used it for about 45 days. I’ll try introducing the C glow next once I can tolerate Agame 10. Thanks a lot for the recommendations 😊😊😊
@@ornellansoki I haven’t tried agame just their vitamin c, timeless vitamin c also worked just as good I just had to buy it directly from their website
Wait for PC sales or look for promo codes for sales
Please review about The ordinary ascorbyl glucoside 12%.Can I use vitamin C serum? My age 15+.
Love from Bangladesh 💓💞
Appreciate this reality and transparency and other recommendations. Its unfair and gross how my dermatologist keeps pushing Skinceuticals on me when it seems more like a cash grab for them instead of what's the most effective/best on the market while also being cost-effective. Sincerely, thank you
Love the haircut
I like your hair!
I think my favorite is Regimen Labs Vitamin X serum! I’ve never seen anything like it before! I’ve been eyeing the Rhoto one too!
Random question. If I used say, Stratia’s CC or another vitamin c product that’s in oil, would either affect how sunscreen sets up if used in the same AM routine? I’ve always wondered this!
Since I use tretinoin, all those vitamin C serums are unnecessary 😭😭
Unrelated but:
Why aren’t more creators talking about PFA’s in skincare and cosmetics? Is it something we have to just accept? The benzene issue was talked about but not the “forever chemical” isn’t. Consumers need to hold companies accountable. Ok now I will get off my soapbox.
Neither of the Naturium C-serums contain licorice root, do you maybe mean another product?
I was just spouting out ingredient examples. A more specific one is their Azelaic acid with vitamin c and Niacinamide, or their alpha Arbutin with lemon extract (complex compound with vitamin c being a component of it), or their super C having Niacinamide and retinol. The point I was trying to make was Vitamin C plus other ingredients to boost the benefits or amplify the desired skin result
@ thank you :-)
Im using the Timeless 20% Vitamin C, Ferulic Acid, Vitamin E serum, really legit and I got it affordable at Target 🎯!! I was using another one but I got a PH tester on Amazon and it flunked!!
@@soulchild2003 Yes!!
It is on the target website. I don't know if you can get it in-store
Off topic but are you testing white cast on rovectin sunscreens?
Lol no. Does it look like it?
@ nope! Just curious abt what sunscreens u we’re testing atm
@ it irritated my skin because it has almond extract/ oil or something similar to it (can’t exactly remember). But it leaves no white cast on my medium tone skin.
Drop the vitamin c knowledge!!!
please can you do a video on how to mattify shiny sunscreens esp for guys ??
Blot, powder (no one’s coming for you for using a little powder for oiliness), or a matte sunscreen
Powder is the only way. Either translucent or a powder foundation that matches your skin color. Use lightly.
@@AmanirenaII any recommendations for a good powder foundation?
Any recommendations for translucent powder?
@@ornellansoki Not the op but I really enjoy MAC's studio fix powder foundation
I still think there are other antioxidants that you can use that are more stable. Btw, as a new subscriber highly excited about your content, I'm a bit disappointed you don't disclose you're being rep'd by Susan Yara's company, and that she also owns Naturium. This isn't hate for either of you; I only know about your relationship with Susan because I love her and watch all her videos, and she did mention representing diverse content creators (including you) as an exciting new division of Mixed Media, her company. I just kinda think this kind of relationship should be mentioned; at the time of my writing this, it's not disclosed in your description box. Obviously I support both of you and think she's got a great eye for talent in rep'ing you.
No worries at all! I haven’t publicly disclosed this no, but generally most people don’t disclose their representation or agencies. Up until I signed with her in May, I was with a completely different agency I never spoke of either. I’ve recently signed to the management company she owns, but creators don’t tend to or need to disclose that kind of information. I never disclosed my prior management either
Wish your vids had captions for us hoh folks :)
Noted! I’ll be more mindful of this. Thank you for bringing it up!
Thoughts on Dezi Skin?
Real talk I still have yet to try it! I might break it out this week though. I needed to test some other brightening products first
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I think I'm gonna wait until the Skinceuticals' patent dies in 2025 😩 the indeed labs is looking interesting and affordable though
What happens when the patent dies?
@@bdet313 other companies can use their very well studied methods to stabilise/deliver LAA to your skin without fear of being sued, and without a stupid price tag attached (drunk elephant is in some hot water for basically doing this before the patent died lol, but it's still $80)
@@Ben-kv7wr Ah, ok. Thanks!
Baybeeeee I need you to slow down 😬
Am I the only one that thinks he talks too fast?! I really wanna understand what he is saying but even the captions are going crazy