What happened to the Trans Europe Express? - The TEE
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The Trans Europe Express or TEE was the first international network to link up western European cites from 1957 to 1990's. It was designed to be a first-class only solution for business people and wealthy regular travellers in the face of increasing competition from air travel but what happened to this iconic European trail service.
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@6:20 couldn't help notice you said TVG instead of TGV, but don't lose all your hair on that mate, just put it in the notes if it bugs you. Awesome quality content btw. Thanks for the massive work you put into each of these videos
Great video as usual !!!
Hi Paul. French high speed rail is TGV for Train à Grande Vitesse, and not TVG as you said twice in your video
many trains in this video, i was playing the game called trainstation all the trains are there except settebello train
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TGV. Not TVG. TGV like Train à Grande Vitesse (High Speed Train)
Someone noticed it 👍
Came here to say this!
In his earlier videos he did say tgv but now it caught me too
scrolled too much to find you !
Yes
Seeing as I cant use Kraftwerks TEE in the video unless I want the whole thing demonetised, the section about the VT11.5 designer, Klaus Flesche and M.A.N was a good way to include them in the video and was the first thing I thought about when I found out about it. I know it doesn't stack up if you look at it in German or the exact translation but Ralf and Florian (RIP) would certainly understand as they often used a play on English and German words and the sounds. "Fun, Fun. Fun on the AutoBahn" is a play on the Beachboys but in German it means Bored and "Radioactivity, its in the air for you and me" is the double meaning of nuclear radioactivity and activity in the airwaves, music, speech etc., so maybe its not inconceivable that they knew about that when it came to Man Machine but either way its an interesting aside :-)
The abbreviation MAN stands for "Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg" , which means "machine factory Augsburg-Nuremberg", named after the two cities the company was based in. So the text you display in the video is wrong.
@@AntonFetzer It could be a double-meaning, like the two other examples he provided in his comment. Sounds like the band was quite clever, so it's not impossible.
Great piece of quriosity. Love kraftwerk and trains so i thank you Paul
@@fishie3799 You never pronounce it MAN but only Emm-AAh-Enn or Emm-Uh-Enn. It's as complicated as pronouncing Japanese car names. BMW is Beh-Emm-Veh, with eh like in behemoth. AUDI like Owdie and VW like Fow-Veh. :) I never was interested in trains very much but this presentation was a gem.
“From station to station, back to Düsseldorf City, Meet Iggy Pop and David Bowie”*
Here's an interesting article about that story:
www.davidbowie.com/blog/2020/5/6/bowie-on-kraftwerk-and-his-florian-tribute
“In Vienna, we sit in a late-night cafe
Straight connection, TEE
Trans-Europe Express
Trans-Europe Express” Kraftwerk TEE
Warte mal, ich bin auch aus Wien. Was meinst du genau?
Did you ask for an autograph?
I am taking autobahn 🧐🧐😝
I was thinking the same song!!
TTE🙂
From station to station
Back to Dusseldorf City
Meet Iggy Pop and David Bowie
SATIS-FACTION.🎵
This would have been a great setting for a James Bond adventure.
Or an updated retelling of the 'Murder on the Orient Express".
From Russia with Love has a similar train scene in the Orient Express
That's what immediately came into my mind 😆
@@Vespuchian We already had a rework of that movie in 2017 please don't.
@@julesb6816 Ah, well. I was thinking of something simply based on the story, not a film of the book itself. Fair point though.
Italian Railways: "Signor Minoletti, we need you to design a train."
Minoletti: "Excellent! What are the specifications?"
Italian Railways: "Well, it needs to be Italian..."
Minoletti: "Say no more!"
wins the style contest by a flying mile
The Italian Settebello forward lounge looks like the most awesome railfan ride ever. I just hope no-one is in a rail crossing accident.
Settebello was and remains the most beautiful train in the world
that italian train is just beautiful. So glad that one got saved. Easily the most eyecatching of the lot. I can understand easily why that service died out, carrying less passengers than a 707 and taking much longer to cover the distances it was never going to prevail in the long term, even with the cool features of the dedicated secretaries on hand
That's still the same today. I can fly to London for 39 euro or I can take the EuroStar for 88, it takes about 7 hours by train in total, house door to hotel. Which is roughly 2 hours more than it takes by plane. But it is so much more comfortable, and sitting in a train staring out the window at 300kph enjoying free drinks and pretty good food beats the hell out of mucking about in an airport terminal for over an hour.
@@fermitupoupon1754 And the uncomfortable flight.
But given the considerable cost difference it isn't surprising that is wasn't viable.
@@fermitupoupon1754 it is even better with nightjet (night train), book a compartment and drink a glass of prosecco, have a shower, sleep and wake up refreshed in your destination
The Class 602 in Nurnberg museum is simply ridiculously beautiful. It's hard to believe that someone actually built it.
That Italian design was beautiful.
RocKITEman _ 2001 it looks like a mix between some of the Romancecar trains from Japan and so,etching from the Jetsons
@@counterfit5
The first was not Romance car of Odakyu.
It wasPanorama car of Meitetsu.
They all retired 2005,
💚🤍💖💚🤍💖💚🤍💖
@@APW_Manbow Sad to hear. I remember a few nice trains between Osaka and Kyoto.
@@ElectricUAM
It's Keihan or Kintetsu.
Recently, Kintetsu has launched a wonderful limited express "Hinotori" (Phoenix) between Osaka and Nagoya.
That settebello sure is gorgeous
A bit of trivia: the name "Settebello" (The Beautiful Seven) is taken from the name of a Italian tarot card, the Seven of Coins, which earns a point in the old card game of Scopa/Scopone (two points in some local variants). It also was the nickname given to the national waterpolo team back in 1948 (in turn derived from that of a Neapolitan waterpolo team, Rari Nantes, whose members often passed their travel time playing Scopa). Of course, a waterpolo team has seven players.
He's a time traveler from the 60s, that's why he uses those psychedelic shirts.
I bet he’s the Fourteenth Doctor
Paisley was a creation of Industrial Revolution era England. Victorian I think.
@@coreys2686 Paisley is in Scotland and the pattern came from India/Iran originally.
Is that batik?
looks more like 2260
I was absolutely stoked to hear at the end of the video, they preserved some of the TEE trains after all. Too many historic vehicles and artifacts were scrapped/forgotten back when they were just considered old junk that nobody wanted.
RIP Florian Schneider.
Rip
RIF
It would also explain the Dr. Magnus Pike hand gestures...
@@Peasmouldia Is it Pike or Pyke? I think it´s Pyke. Science!
About the Mistral: it was driven by the CC6500 (on its 1500 V CC leg to Marseilles) or the CC21000 (on its 1500V CC + 25000V AC complete trip from Paris to Nice) or various other electric bi-current locomotives. The CC40100s were exclusively used on the Northern region tracks, mainly from Gare du Nord to Brussels and Amsterdam in conjunction with their Belgian SNCB sisters, Class 18, which were used to go to Germany too.
And btw, one of my best railway memory was a TEE trip from Lausanne to Paris in 1975... dining car and sleeping car...👍👍👍
Excellent. Brings back memories. I travelled Paris to Zurich on a TEE way back in 1973. Fantastic restaurant car (and food) and bar. A wonderful way to travel.
Paul, your sense of quality, the hard work you do, and no doubt impelled by an enthusiasm for greatness as well as your own creations - it all shines through.
Plus one thing of note on this episode - somehow it avoided having old grainy period quality footage. Somehow it's all crisp, beautiful images and images in motion. That had to take hard work. Some out here that still support and appreciate that. Keep that inspiring drive and passion.
I am never this early. Your content is grand and chalk full of wondrous information.
Thank you 😊
Born in 1977, I didn’t really see the TEE‘s myself. But as a child, I had a set of model trains... including a TEE branded one. This video brought back some long forgotten memory’s 😊
Man. That Italian train is a rail fans dream. Front facing seats with a HUGE panoramic window.
When COVID is over, I want to travel so I can take a ride on that awesome Italian designed train. Totally gonna sit up front and make a awesome video...
I absolutely LOVE that you mentioned Kraftwerk in this video, because I was thinking it the whole time. Awesome!
RIP Florian...
I've been on the TGV and the train in Alaska and I love trains, but I have never seen one with a place to sit and look FORWARD like that Italian one!
*04:08* Something they all could agree on was a color scheme of red and creme… well i guess the Italian's couldn't let that stand without making it full flag colors 😁
I laughed so hard
True :) But in Italy red is reserved for Ferrari
The Settebello is a stylish consist designed for luxury, not for performance. Italians would think that red does not fit it
The settebello and arlecchino were introduced in service before the TEE tname could be applied to internal services. These were just not repainted. For how much i love the red and cream, the green and grey fits these much better.
well come on red and creme looks like shit on a train. give us some recognition for that hahaha
Only the Settebello has different colors, others trains such as the "Ligure" and the "Mediolanum" used the normal colors.
4:15 That Italian version looks pretty futuristic.
You said TVG twice. That actually has to be TGV as in Train Grand Vitesse.
My dyslexia kicking again, when i made the last TGV video i made the same mistake but i edited it out, this time its seems to have crept back in, for some reason my brain likes TVG more.
@@CuriousDroid TVG flows off the tongue better!
Great video! Love the Kraftwerk references. I can empathise as far as the dyslexia is concerned, easily done!
Saying it 'en francais' like "tae, jae, vae" makes it easier.
@@stevenm8970 Not in French
Curious Droid is the kind of channel that anything he touches he creates great material from and teaches us something. Thank you again for one more great video.
Dear Mr. Shiilito,
A special thanks for this video.
I have a special passion for trains, from the Marklin models of my youth, to learning locomotives in Old age.
I find myself to watch American train videos but those are train passages and locomotive starting, mostly very casual stuff. Your video has been a very welcome surprise. For a trains aficionado (not trainspotter) such explicative - both historical and technical - are very welcome. There is a great community of train lovers on YT, by the way.
Thank you again...
8:13 "flying hamburger"
In this case the word "hamburger" means somebody or something from the German city of Hamburg and not a type of sandwich that you might buy at a fast food restaurant.
@@sadams12345678, plus it was a sneaky reference to the legendary ghost ship Flying Dutchman.
Note: The fliegende (flying) part of the pre-war DRG train title in "Der fliegende Hamburger" refers to the action of "rushing away from" rather than the oft-translated flying, much like our English verb "to flee". While "Hamburger" is simply the demonym for an inhabitant or citizen of the city of Hamburg. Nothing to do with aeronautical foodstuffs!
@@sadams12345678 - yes but it's still funny. Similar to when JFK called everyone in Berlin a donut.
Why not? The Italians had an Oscar Meyer Weinermobile. 6:24
I love train-based videos so much! Interesting to watch and quite honestly, brings a sort of peaceful feeling to me.
Kraftwerk made it into music album.
Small error at 4:36. The DE4s were the Dutch units and the RAm's were the Swiss.
Nope. The RAM were dutch.
Designed by a dutch woman also.
You just made this gunzel (trainspotter/foamer) wet himself with joy. More videos about trains please!
hey Paul, just wanted to let you know that i've been subbed for quite a while now and every time you upload a video im always glad to click. your voice is like butter to my ears and you always manage to teach me something new each time i watch. keep up the great work and never stop doing what you do, we love you!
So he is the butter to your potato? Yum.
Very nice documented and sense of nostalgia make this short documentary one of my favorite.Bravo !
Cristian
This came up in the middle of my binge watching Fred Dibnah videos, the music and history seems so fitting with his videos
Thanks for the upload
Beautiful train . Fascinating content as always, thank you very much, very entertaining and informative
Awesome documentary as always Paul, you are so close to 1M subs. Well deserved!
As always, great job. Marvellous channel. Congratulations to all the curious droid team.
5:51
looks like an old Winnebago chieftain, love it!
Inspired by Airstream. Designed by Winnebago.
Aerodynamics is for the weak! We will power through and force the air out of our way. Diesel fuel is cheap.
Always enjoy your videos, and I was very pleased to hear that Kraftwerk reference. RIP Florian Schneider (1947-2020).
What a superb video. Thanks, Paul!
This is awesome content! Thank you so much. So glad to see that a few of these machines have been preserved.
I wonder if you would ever do a video on just how amazing the Williams FW14B and FW15 F1 cars of '92-'93 were with their advanced systems never to be seen again in F1?
Would love to ride the Italian “SetteBello”
It would have been wonderful to travel in such style across Europe in the 70’s and 80’s, but I missed out because I was a kid and I didn’t know about it until now.
Everyone goes on about the Orient Express but the TEE looks so much more up my alley. I like the idea they will run tourist trips on the restored trains.
Thanks for this superb video. Keep up the great work 👍
I think the very last ones were those from Paris-Nord to Brussels and Amsterdam until 1996.
I often sing Kraftwerk's song but change the words to Trans Pennine Express and use a comedy northern accent when travelling by train between Manchester and Huddersfield.
Don't think you going to get quite the same level of service on the TPE though, even if they turn up :-)
You’ve got to give it to the Italians they certainly know how to design stuff, Bella
Hehe funny, my father worked in that exact control building (Stellwerk) at 2:34. The world is small 😃
Stellwerk = Signal Box
Amazing
I'm pretty sure at 2:50 is hamburg Main Station, Platform 6. Been getting off there from the train from Lübeck so many times.
Thanks Paul! :)
Great video again!
Man your videos are so good!
Italian Design is Amazing, Forza Italia ♥️.
Love the use of 2001 a Space odyssey classical music earlier in the video
The piece of music is Blue Danube by Strauss and i used because of the 2001 film and it seems to work quite well.
Sad state of education thinking that Strauss's Blue Danube is just some classical music from 2001: A Space Odyssey.
@@saratov99 at least people know about Kubrick, not just generic Hollywood blockbusters.
Always superb and informative videos. Thank you.
Superrrr videos.. I do enjoy watching .. You are a really nice person and everytime I have a free time I watch Your videos.. Thank You for such a good reliable source of knowledge.
10:39 I think this is the tee that was scrapped in Villingen in 2020. RIP. I live near Villingen
Love the Settebello, though people must be fighting for the front seat.
I absolutely loved this video, thank you very much sir!
Trains aren’t really given the love they deserve these days...
Such a cool looking trains especially Italian one....thank you for making this!
11:16 that 602 looks amazing!
The BR 602 is a modified version of the iconic BR 601 from the Kraftwerk cover using gas turbines instead of diesel engines. I think they look way more futuristic - or retrofuturistic from a today's point of view - than the original BR 601.
Great shirt.
Love the batik shirt Paul, not to mention the always enlightening presentation. Kudos!
great video .... as always. Great job
I didn't know that I needed to know so much about something I didn't know anything about. But I did, and now I do. :)
2:50 Is that Hamburg Main Station? Still looks just like that to this day.
What a great video.
Thank you so much for this video.❤️
Thanks you so much for posting this AMAZING Video.
Just wanted to go to bed. Has to wait now :D
Yap
The Settebello has my vote for having "the look". :)
I love your content. Please consider making even more videos about trains and railways. :)
Thank you, Paul, for another informative video. Kraftwerk have long been a favourite of mine, especially Trans Europe Express.
I am a 50 years old french and I never heard of this before.
I am a 50 year old Australian and have ridden the Settebello in 84 quite an experience being in the front going through tunnels.
Damn, I'm a bit younger, but I just learned "mistral" was something else than an inter city train ... Thx Paul
Ignorance has no age
@@MiguelMorales85 Tact teaches little.
That why I love this channel. :)
Several details were astounding, such as having customs agents on the train so you can breeze through the destination station. Genius idea.
In a way it is still like that today. The Eurostar has French Border Control at St. Pancras in London and the Brits are at Gare Du Nord in Paris. Also, most western European countries are now in the Schengen zone removing the need for passport schecks.
There was a gag based on this on the old "Get Smart" TV series. At one point, the customs agent (played by none other than the late, great Johnny Carson) came into the compartment, saying they were entering Lichtenstein, and stamped their passports. He was back again about 5 minutes later, saying they were leaving Lichtenstein.
Very interesting, as always!
Thanks, Droid. And that was an amazing shirt you had on.
Kraftwerk brought me here
Hi !
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I am never this early. Your content is grand and chalk full of wondrous information.
Imagine a Shinkansen like train network in Europe going through all european countries today ... how cool would that be
I wish we could get one in the us but I bet ticket prices would be insane
Just imagining Eurostar with more ticket price
It pretty much exists, although it's run by all the different countries and isn't run under a single authority or livery. High speed trains run between most of the major capital cities and most larger cities and you can even buy tickets valid across Europe from Interrail. It's not difficult to take a train from Berlin to Paris, Amsterdam to London, Brussels to Vienna, Paris to Milan and many other major cities across Europe. In 1996 the EU launched the Trans European High Speed Rail Network, a directive designed to promote high speed cross border services and provide clarity on standards and inter-operability between the different systems. Even Spain has got in on the act with a new HS route linking their system with France's and allowing direct cross border high speed services across the Pyrenees. So it may not be a train network under a single operator and single livery like the Shinkansen but it's not far off it.
Some TGV in France go to foreign major cites like Barcelona
Euro City trains run through several countries such as Germany-Czech Republic-Hungary or Austria. They tend to be the older style trains with good dining cars so a comfortable journey.
Excellently produced video. Such a change to have background music really in the background, instead of drowning out the narrative, as is usual.
Always happy to see a Curious Driod upload!
I like trains. I wish international high-speed train services were more developed.
It already, if not even better with almost twice the speed
Shirt appears in 1:24 and.. wow! :)
Really enjoyed this. Stunning trains and interiors aesthetically pleasing.
I love travelling by train. I'm currently saving and planning for a train / tour of several countries over a four week period. So I'll be going to France , Spain Portugal.
I'm subbed and happy to share this.
Excellent video! These trains were beautiful!
Nice shirt!
And once again Italian design is just
Excellent summary, Paul. Well done. But it left me wanting to know more, not so much about the TEE, but about other rail technologies. This is a rich pool of knowledge and fascinating facts. Please do more on railway subjects. Thanks. I enjoy all of your CD videos - factual, clearly presented, and well researched. Keep it up!
Another cracking video CD!
RIP Florian Schneider
All this does is makes me want to listen to Kraftwerk.
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Fun fun fun on the autubahn.
Meet Iggy Pop and David Bowie....
You should, Theyre Amazing!
@@UnknowNManFromMoon-pg5sh Indeed so. I've seen them in concert several times in my lucky life and am desperately sad that the world lost Florian this year.
The Italian train head: Pure "Atom Punk". Such a very clever and nice design..
Love it... Great vid as always...
3:13 Who is she?
Even if she's 100 years old now, that is a fine work of art.
She's likley in her 80s by now.
I had Kraftwerk's Trans Europe Express song in my head watching the beginning of this episode. Turns out it wasn't a coincidence :D
I ran the Kraftwerk music video in a second window to add the appropriate soundtrack.
I really enjoyed this! The music with the narrative and the at the time futuristic trains! I was happy they save the Italian train and restored it.
An important historical Video, thank you for editing and posting., At 77 years I should know more, but I was with British-Airways until I moved to Australia in 1973. Such is life - Again, Thanks for posting :)
I'm totally digging that shirt.
Is that batik?
@@rizalaffandi9463 I would say yes, I didn't know the term batik but looked it up. He was sponsored by www.madcapengland.com
Leave it to the Italians to build a train that cool looking.
Thank you, thank you , thank you Paul for the Kraftwerk nod. There was no doubt in my mind you would be mentioning it, but (as you said) I too had no idea of the subtle background of the album titles. This is another reason I look forward to all your videos and have been an ardent subscriber from the beginning.
I took the TEE from Amsterdam to Munich and Milan to Amsterdam in the early 80's and loved it, although the amenities were expensive, even for an American. Kraftwerk's "TEE" always brings back great memories and is one of my favorite songs, as is ABBA's "Day Before You Came" which is in a similar style. Very nice posting.