Fun fact: the Fender Musicmaster bass was basically the Fender Musicmaster guitar with bass strings. It even reused the six-pole guitar pickup! I think it'd be a cool experiment to try out the "wrong" pickup on guitars and basses. If anything we'd know what happens when the pickup poles don't match the strings
Yep. Have you ever build a Les Paul clone kit guitar? These two humbuckers are bloody good, when you install 4 bass strings. It's just tuned slightly higher, Fis or G for the low string.
Fun fact: vintage Fender musicmaster basses have a single pickup with a plastic cover over it. That's because they came with a 6 pole piece strat-looking pickup. But even with 4 bass strings, they sound great. But you can also go for a rail-type stratocaster-sized humbucker on a bass.
I have a Brice fretless I was thinking might sound cool with a piezo. I'll have to listen with headphones later, but my initial impression is that distorted piezo actually sounds pretty damn good.
Done four such conversions. Can recommend it to anybody who is not afraid of basic wood and metal tools. Built a LP clone kit guitar (added 2 coil split switches, which works out great), and that small bass is very okay. Also did two different strat clones. One was damaged and for strength considerations I replaced the bridge pickup by a block of wood. The other one was a new Indonesian strat clone, sorry for the sunburst fans, I burnt it black and sprayed it black and red. Not bad. Fun detail, in the 5-switch I swapped neck and mid pickup, for I like bridge and neck doing "humbucker effect". And this is the way to get it, without replacing that limited 5-switch. Awkward traditions... And number 4 is a Yamaha Pacifica with a tele bridge. All sound far better than I had expected before. It' just cheap guitar pickups, and not that great wood, after all. That strat clone is some kind of mdf and the tiny strip holding the bridge in place had simply collapsed. Broken. The Pacifica however looks great, it is six nice pieces of wood, glued together. What a waste they painted that Pacifica body black. Never underestimate a Yamaha Pacifica, buy some high end parts, give it a proper setup, remove the finish (too much paint sounds like a sponge) and you can easily be surprised by the sound of your cheap Yamaha. Sorry, I sound like a school teacher... But I love these conversion projects.
Glad you worked on it instead of just returning it. It’s a very creative “first effort” but it’s proof of concept (and a nice travel/home practice instrument) that all you really need are 3 strings on bass. 😎 FYI I’ve modded every bass and guitar I’ve ever owned since 1971.
Oh hey! I've done this with a kit tele. I did 4 strings tho. It turned out garbage lmao. When I first saw this bass in the future cam I thought it was one of those mini strats with a 22" scale, which would have been also super interesting. The double octave thing would be cool, as that's what Chris Squire did on his tele triple neck. Also, have you seen the stewmac mini guitar kit? It seems likes it would be the next perfect incarnation of your soprano guitar as it's tuned up an octave with standard strings. Maybe turn it to a sopranino?
I have a glarry strat and have been considering doing a bass conversion like that (I'm just not a guitar player) and looks like i may proceed. Three string seems the way to go. We'll see! 😎
Hey so i got an idea for a project i think you would love cuz we all know you like re stringing alternative tuning things: A 12 string, but instead of regular guitar + higher octave, its regular guitar + lower octave Edit: maybe tuning a 12 string into diferent intervals like minor thirds? You could use the harley benton 12 string, it is pretty cheap but really good
@@SaidTooMuchProductions maybe even tune them to the same octave but diferrent intervals? Like E and G (a major third) and so on so on, it would be a interesting alternative to double guitar
Man, it does sound awesome. I was thinking of converting a crappy guitar of mine into a bass and I said: Somebody has done it, check RUclips. And here you are. I might go on with it. I don't have the pieces now, but it's worth the shot. Thank you.
Simply use Ernie Ball 2837 (20-90) with ball end. It works perfectly on Ibanez Grg 140 sb. I've just added one spring to trem (4), tuned an octave lower, and the neck stands stable.
Very cool, it does give more ideas for a thing I wanted to do for some time (that probably already exists but it might be expensive) an adjustable instrument that can be a bass or a guitar, having little effort to switch between those, just by changing parts
the betewwen-the-poles idea is nice, but you can use 4-strings on 6-pole puckups easily. get some of those cheapo flexible fridge magnets that are like 8th inch or less and epoxy that over the poles like a blade pickup. works great. ive done guitar to 4-string bass conversions with this before and had no issue. you can get down to drop C with some effort on a strat-scale but i dont recomend lowere than E. with a 145 string and a peizo just under the C string, it works but you lose that clarity. i add peizos to all my basses, but only under the lowest string and paired with a slanted pickup under the other 3 or 4 so its gets progressively grolwey further down, and then the other normal pickup as a blend.
From experience, you would have been just fine putting on the 4th string. The exact position of the coils on the pickup and the string dont matter as much as youd think. As long as its height is balanced well youll have even volume of all the strings. I converted with 4 strings
@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ @UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ Faulty wiring, that's bad but we have a contact mic. A Fender Strata bass would be their next instrument. You could've just strung it w/ Bass VI Strings. The Bass VI is a 6 String Bass tuned E-E an octave below the Guitar.
It came from Indonesia. Cheap labour and still good craftmanship. These workers are good. All the screws are rock solid. If not, it's prolly China. These dudes are in a hurry and you'll see holes drilled in the wrong spots. Simply pay more and you wil get something better. They alway put stickers on. Made in Germany, that is the great example.
Your final statement says it all - and is Spot-On !! You should have returned this faulty, kinda crappy guitar. And..... yep. I'm sure glad you didn't. Turned into an AWESOME project!! I love this. Now I want to try to do one too. I've got all kinds of bodies and necks laying around. Yep. Gunna try to build one too. Thanks for this cool vid!
Dude that sounds way better then an 8 string!! It feels like it was made for djent !! ....... I say make more of these and sell them !!! ...... P.s. if there was a way to make it four strings it would be better....
Sounds somewhere between a Jazz and a Rick, short scale notwithstanding. I wonder why Fender didn't make too many basses with actual neck position pickups around the 24th fret node other than the Bass VI.
Linking from IG has repeatedly failed me. Manually searched and subbed. Files. I ordered a set of 5 and use the three sided for almost everything until the round file for final work.. Widow points. Google that but basically bend the strings where they need to be. You could have kept the Trem if you just attached the stuff to the original plate and removed the saddles. Actually you could have just used that but intonation wouldn't have been enough. Humbucker rail pickups oddly if you buy a mandolin pickguard you can find the entire thing wired with everything for like $10 as long as your ok with white.
Did you try .020 strings first? Fender had this thing called Bass VI, which was essentially a guitar tuned one octave lower. Music Man had the SUB, which was the same thing.
I think the tension of 4 strings would be okay. Since the scale length of the guitar is shorter, the strings would come to the right pitch with less tension.
Depends on the gauge you choose. I like the Ernie Ball 2834 (100-80-65-45) for my guitar conversions. Nothing wrong with those. When you want higher tension you are condemned to this 3 string "solution". Or simply beef up the truss rod, if you feel the truss rod can't keep up with your extra tension. You got a point, a guitar neck is shorter, a bit more tension is not always fatal. Personally, I like a slightly lower tension, for bending gets far easier. The sound of the low string is my lower limit, it should not get too floppy.
Great work, cool idea, I love such projects :) I think it could be great for home demo recording (I bought a Bass for it, and it take some space in my some flat ;) so maybe this could be easier for someone in similiar space issue situation :) for me is some kind of minibass :) I wonder if it would sound even better with some bass pickups :)
i think it is. i would remove the fretboard and headstock combo of the guitar and replace it with a bass fretboard headstock combo. then swap out the bridge and what ever you call that thing that holds the strings in place at the bottom.
you can hear the inharmonicity creeping in as you go on those higher frets with such a short scale. might be interesting to do a project that intentionally has as much inharmonicity as possible (short scale + thick strings, they start to act more like xylophone bars than strings)
I think that your calculations for the bass guitar string tension is off. It maybe 40 lbs. for a standard length bass, but this is much shorter, so the tension should be less.
@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ A 6 string Double Course Bass, wow that's gonna really be a brand new way to Shake It Off w/ Taylor Swift on Baritone Guitar & Vocals. It appears that you got a Guitar instead of a Bass Guitar when the Package came because either One you ordered the wrong instrument or Two there could've been a labeling error in the item you ordered on Amazon. That little baby Mandocaster 12 by Eastwood is going to be your Baby Electric Soprano 12 String Guitar. You'll wanna strum lean on me by Bill Waiters as a tribute to Kobe & Gianna Bryant since they died in a Helicopter Crash.
@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ Your very 1'st 3 String Bass. Can you get a Fender Bass VI? How about also an Eastwood Mandocaster 12 aka Electric Soprano 12 String Guitar? If you also get it try it on clean with a Soprano Guitar Aria "Oh My Beloved Father" by Puccini on a Soprano 12 String Guitar w/ a Slide.
When life gives Kevin apples Kevin makes lemonade
Lawyer Morty 😂
It is Apples. Duh.
Wise choice.
epic
epico
Fun fact: the Fender Musicmaster bass was basically the Fender Musicmaster guitar with bass strings. It even reused the six-pole guitar pickup!
I think it'd be a cool experiment to try out the "wrong" pickup on guitars and basses. If anything we'd know what happens when the pickup poles don't match the strings
Also with squier bronco
Yep. Have you ever build a Les Paul clone kit guitar? These two humbuckers are bloody good, when you install 4 bass strings. It's just tuned slightly higher, Fis or G for the low string.
Dude the distorted tone is so nasty and awesome. And this thing is awesome as hell in my opinion. Djent on man🤘
How about you try to make a song with the baritone guitar-converted bass and the bass-converted guitar? That would be cool.
I second this
DO IT YOURSELF. DIY!
@@voornaam3191 some people don’t have the proper equipment nor proper education on how to do that.
Fun fact: vintage Fender musicmaster basses have a single pickup with a plastic cover over it. That's because they came with a 6 pole piece strat-looking pickup. But even with 4 bass strings, they sound great. But you can also go for a rail-type stratocaster-sized humbucker on a bass.
I have a Brice fretless I was thinking might sound cool with a piezo. I'll have to listen with headphones later, but my initial impression is that distorted piezo actually sounds pretty damn good.
Do try a piezo in different spots of the body. There are great spots and yuck spots. And manufacturers are not always that smart.
Done four such conversions. Can recommend it to anybody who is not afraid of basic wood and metal tools.
Built a LP clone kit guitar (added 2 coil split switches, which works out great), and that small bass is very okay.
Also did two different strat clones. One was damaged and for strength considerations I replaced the bridge pickup by a block of wood. The other one was a new Indonesian strat clone, sorry for the sunburst fans, I burnt it black and sprayed it black and red. Not bad. Fun detail, in the 5-switch I swapped neck and mid pickup, for I like bridge and neck doing "humbucker effect". And this is the way to get it, without replacing that limited 5-switch. Awkward traditions...
And number 4 is a Yamaha Pacifica with a tele bridge.
All sound far better than I had expected before. It' just cheap guitar pickups, and not that great wood, after all. That strat clone is some kind of mdf and the tiny strip holding the bridge in place had simply collapsed. Broken. The Pacifica however looks great, it is six nice pieces of wood, glued together. What a waste they painted that Pacifica body black. Never underestimate a Yamaha Pacifica, buy some high end parts, give it a proper setup, remove the finish (too much paint sounds like a sponge) and you can easily be surprised by the sound of your cheap Yamaha. Sorry, I sound like a school teacher... But I love these conversion projects.
i cant b e l i e v e you didnt use the second position. Really neat video, that worked surprisingly well haha
That was a great conversion.
That was a great comment. Bit 2 short though.
6:55 Eat It by Weird Al Yankovic
Glad you worked on it instead of just returning it. It’s a very creative “first effort” but it’s proof of concept (and a nice travel/home practice instrument) that all you really need are 3 strings on bass. 😎 FYI I’ve modded every bass and guitar I’ve ever owned since 1971.
Fender Musicmaster basses originally came with a single 6-pole pickup with a cover to hide it. Sounds really great
Oh hey! I've done this with a kit tele. I did 4 strings tho. It turned out garbage lmao. When I first saw this bass in the future cam I thought it was one of those mini strats with a 22" scale, which would have been also super interesting. The double octave thing would be cool, as that's what Chris Squire did on his tele triple neck.
Also, have you seen the stewmac mini guitar kit? It seems likes it would be the next perfect incarnation of your soprano guitar as it's tuned up an octave with standard strings. Maybe turn it to a sopranino?
Sweet! I put a prewirerd Stratocaster pickguard on an old Slammer by Hamer bass and turned out way better than I expected.
It kinda sounds more as bass but damn the distorted sound is so gud.
Love your hammer! Perfect for this application... Love the possibility of different affects that you can explore.
Neat. I'm gonna be trying this soon, turning a telecaster into a 4-string.
This thing sounds like something Lemmy would have really rocked.
Interesting conversion and idea, thanks for the video!
result is amazing🔥🔥🔥
Excellent
I have a glarry strat and have been considering doing a bass conversion like that (I'm just not a guitar player) and looks like i may proceed. Three string seems the way to go. We'll see! 😎
SLAP LIKE, NOW!
Too much respect for this great idea, nice.
Hey so i got an idea for a project i think you would love cuz we all know you like re stringing alternative tuning things:
A 12 string, but instead of regular guitar + higher octave, its regular guitar + lower octave
Edit: maybe tuning a 12 string into diferent intervals like minor thirds? You could use the harley benton 12 string, it is pretty cheap but really good
Ya, I like the idea of buying a 12 to mess with eventually
@@SaidTooMuchProductions maybe even tune them to the same octave but diferrent intervals? Like E and G (a major third) and so on so on, it would be a interesting alternative to double guitar
Couldnt you just get a 12 string bass (6 string with octaves) and have it tuned like a guitar? Just seemed like less work in the end
@@brendanhoppe227 a twelve string bass is tuned 3 strings at a time
@@tavicotavio I mean a 6 string bass with octaves
Man, it does sound awesome. I was thinking of converting a crappy guitar of mine into a bass and I said: Somebody has done it, check RUclips. And here you are. I might go on with it. I don't have the pieces now, but it's worth the shot. Thank you.
Sounds great with the piezo and distortion.
Brilliant
Its sounded pretty good as djent guitar.
I've put a shortscale bass neck on an ibanez Rg guitar body.
And it's like a light shortscale bass.
With Distortion you have that sweet "Shuggah" sound in a Dick Lövgren way 😮!
excellent job young sir i shall get one done many thanks
Simply use Ernie Ball 2837 (20-90) with ball end. It works perfectly on Ibanez Grg 140 sb. I've just added one spring to trem (4), tuned an octave lower, and the neck stands stable.
God, the dude is having his time of his life speaking to the mic and looking at the camera XD
it isn't a guitar, but it's 6 string bass
6:54 Plays Eat It by Weird Al
Now I want to see him convert a Chuck shuldiner model BC Rich stealth guitar to a bass
Very cool, it does give more ideas for a thing I wanted to do for some time (that probably already exists but it might be expensive) an adjustable instrument that can be a bass or a guitar, having little effort to switch between those, just by changing parts
Sounds kick ass with distortion
It looks fun. I always thought the P bass was basically the bass version of a strat. They look similar anyway. I dig it. :)
Make baritone 8 string banjo thing
the betewwen-the-poles idea is nice, but you can use 4-strings on 6-pole puckups easily. get some of those cheapo flexible fridge magnets that are like 8th inch or less and epoxy that over the poles like a blade pickup. works great. ive done guitar to 4-string bass conversions with this before and had no issue. you can get down to drop C with some effort on a strat-scale but i dont recomend lowere than E. with a 145 string and a peizo just under the C string, it works but you lose that clarity. i add peizos to all my basses, but only under the lowest string and paired with a slanted pickup under the other 3 or 4 so its gets progressively grolwey further down, and then the other normal pickup as a blend.
I always read betewwen the lines. Ever heard of editing your comment?
I'm not gonna lie, that guitar looks clean
Has a sound between and old and a new bass.
From experience, you would have been just fine putting on the 4th string. The exact position of the coils on the pickup and the string dont matter as much as youd think. As long as its height is balanced well youll have even volume of all the strings. I converted with 4 strings
Good thing it has a case.
@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ
@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ
Faulty wiring, that's bad but we have a contact mic. A Fender Strata bass would be their next instrument. You could've just strung it w/ Bass VI Strings. The Bass VI is a 6 String Bass tuned E-E an octave below the Guitar.
EPICO
Dude that sounds good. I got an old cheapy strat knock off that I have no clue where it came from. I'm tempted to do something like this with it now
It came from Indonesia. Cheap labour and still good craftmanship. These workers are good. All the screws are rock solid. If not, it's prolly China. These dudes are in a hurry and you'll see holes drilled in the wrong spots.
Simply pay more and you wil get something better. They alway put stickers on. Made in Germany, that is the great example.
Your final statement says it all - and is Spot-On !! You should have returned this faulty, kinda crappy guitar. And..... yep. I'm sure glad you didn't. Turned into an AWESOME project!! I love this. Now I want to try to do one too. I've got all kinds of bodies and necks laying around. Yep. Gunna try to build one too. Thanks for this cool vid!
Awesome content on this channel Kevin.
Did anybody mention P.U.S.A. and their basitar and guitbass, with open tunings?
Dude that sounds way better then an 8 string!! It feels like it was made for djent !! ....... I say make more of these and sell them !!! ...... P.s. if there was a way to make it four strings it would be better....
Try looser string to do a 3 string 8 string guitar
(it even makes sense?)
Send a guitar when you command a bass.
Top 5 biggest sin.
Well the fact this is possible blew my mind lol.
I will need to do some tweaking for your build but overall... Well done.
Paul McCartney did this in the early 60s
I kinda want to make one with a cheap telecaster
Damn I might do this. I want a short scale bass but as a lefty they’re near impossible to find, wish me luck!
We can't go lower because the strings would be too thick.
Epic conversion man
Where do you get those individual saddles?
Cheers
Ebay, beware... trust your seller, like I said though
@@SaidTooMuchProductions It appears that they probably shipped the wrong instrument when you ordered the Bass.
Sounds somewhere between a Jazz and a Rick, short scale notwithstanding. I wonder why Fender didn't make too many basses with actual neck position pickups around the 24th fret node other than the Bass VI.
epic
Linking from IG has repeatedly failed me. Manually searched and subbed.
Files. I ordered a set of 5 and use the three sided for almost everything until the round file for final work.. Widow points. Google that but basically bend the strings where they need to be. You could have kept the Trem if you just attached the stuff to the original plate and removed the saddles. Actually you could have just used that but intonation wouldn't have been enough.
Humbucker rail pickups oddly if you buy a mandolin pickguard you can find the entire thing wired with everything for like $10 as long as your ok with white.
Said Too Much Productions Why couldn't you just string it with D'addario EXL 156 Strings?
I think you should link up with a manufacturer and make these
Did you try .020 strings first? Fender had this thing called Bass VI, which was essentially a guitar tuned one octave lower. Music Man had the SUB, which was the same thing.
I wanted a bass tension, the low e is a .125 after trying to adjust to scale
I think you definitely know The Garden twins and treir music
Where is your video about the piezo in this? What did you use, how was it installed and wires up.
ruclips.net/video/rNy2bkJ_VbM/видео.html this is part one of three
I think the tension of 4 strings would be okay. Since the scale length of the guitar is shorter, the strings would come to the right pitch with less tension.
Depends on the gauge you choose. I like the Ernie Ball 2834 (100-80-65-45) for my guitar conversions. Nothing wrong with those. When you want higher tension you are condemned to this 3 string "solution". Or simply beef up the truss rod, if you feel the truss rod can't keep up with your extra tension. You got a point, a guitar neck is shorter, a bit more tension is not always fatal. Personally, I like a slightly lower tension, for bending gets far easier. The sound of the low string is my lower limit, it should not get too floppy.
Where's the piezo video?
6:54 beat it
Great work, cool idea, I love such projects :) I think it could be great for home demo recording (I bought a Bass for it, and it take some space in my some flat ;) so maybe this could be easier for someone in similiar space issue situation :) for me is some kind of minibass :) I wonder if it would sound even better with some bass pickups :)
I think we might just need different pickups, but I love it!!
Said Too Much Productions I know how it happened? Either one you didn't look closely enough & got the wrong instrument or two they mislabeled it.
If you used an actual vintage strat for this project then it would have gone viral...
Why not you make the acoustic one..
I think the riff was enter sandman
Why only 3 strings?
Nice
I'm the 900th to leave a like, I'm now the king of the world
Is it possible to turn an electric guitar into a 4 string bass?
i think it is. i would remove the fretboard and headstock combo of the guitar and replace it with a bass fretboard headstock combo. then swap out the bridge and what ever you call that thing that holds the strings in place at the bottom.
Would a piezo work in the neck pocket? I always wondered.
Wait, what? He used *p i c c* .
Nvm, he also did slap so I guess I'm not calling the police.
Try to return it and say you took it to a music shop to be set up as a bass guitar like you had ordered
I want to convert 6 string electric to 6 string bass
What string gauge did you use?
Thanks foto the tutorial, great!
i Just have a question:
It would be a problem if I put 4 strings without changing the 6 strings coil pickups?
waitin' for answer
The Squire Bronco, as a Bass, has 4 strings, yet 6-poles single pickup 😉
Nice guitASS
YES YES DADDY DADDY 3 String FLORIDA BASS BASS?!!!!!! Yes yes daddy daddy yes yes!!!!
yes daddy is the 3 string florida bass bass!!! yay! finally, someone who agrees with me!
Why not put a 6 string neck on a bass body
Bom d+.....🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
do you plug this into a bass amp or a regular guitar amp
you can hear the inharmonicity creeping in as you go on those higher frets with such a short scale. might be interesting to do a project that intentionally has as much inharmonicity as possible (short scale + thick strings, they start to act more like xylophone bars than strings)
I think that your calculations for the bass guitar string tension is off. It maybe 40 lbs. for a standard length bass, but this is much shorter, so the tension should be less.
The guage is bigger to make up for it, a .120 for the E1
@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ
@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ
A 6 string Double Course Bass, wow that's gonna really be a brand new way to Shake It Off w/ Taylor Swift on Baritone Guitar & Vocals. It appears that you got a Guitar instead of a Bass Guitar when the Package came because either One you ordered the wrong instrument or Two there could've been a labeling error in the item you ordered on Amazon. That little baby Mandocaster 12 by Eastwood is going to be your Baby Electric Soprano 12 String Guitar. You'll wanna strum lean on me by Bill Waiters as a tribute to Kobe & Gianna Bryant since they died in a Helicopter Crash.
onision but musical
Titebond or any wood glue would have been much better to use than epoxy on that tremelo block off Bud. Its easier and less messy.
It would have been easy and relatively cheap to buy a 30 inch neck and make a six string bass.
@UCQoElgBw4Rb5zI37trQvGZQ Your very 1'st 3 String Bass. Can you get a Fender Bass VI? How about also an Eastwood Mandocaster 12 aka Electric Soprano 12 String Guitar? If you also get it try it on clean with a Soprano Guitar Aria "Oh My Beloved Father" by Puccini on a Soprano 12 String Guitar w/ a Slide.