I think we need to stop making excuses for 2K upscales when Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs both had their film reels rescanned into native 4k, and even lower budget releases for less revered movies like Mask of The Phantasm go the extra mile and rescan all the negatives. Such a shame, especially considering this is likely the last transfer we'll ever get of this movie, a cheap option to get a quick buck out of a beloved property
@@NYC_Goody They did, the original camera and film negatives which are definitely preserved somewhere in a studio vault, it just takes time and effort to re-edit and color time for a new DI, and they didn't want to spend the money on it. Meanwhile SEINFELD and FRIENDS had all of its footage rescanned in 4k. It's a lot easier for studios to dig up an old 2K DI file, run an upscale program, and pay for someone to slap on some HDR than to do the job properly. This and Inglorious Basterds could have been reference quality discs, but they cheaped out.
@@StickyProductionstmfriends was infested with ai tinkering loll and Seinfeld was straight up shot on film with no digital intermediate finish. There's a difference there
@@NYC_Goody Alright, look at Shaun of The Dead. Shot on film, edited digitally, 2K intermediate, already on 4k. For the anniversary they decided to go the extra mile and rescan the reels in 4k and redo the color grading in Dolby Vision. Effort has to be there
Stop making excuses and just admit you don't really care about picture quality. If they wanted to do it properly, they would. They are just being greedy and lazy, and they can afford to do so because of people like you and your low standards. @NYC_Goody
I have Kill Bill The Whole Bloody Affair on Blu-ray which seamlessly combines both movies and includes alternate angles, a deleted scene reinserted, the Japanese edit of The Crazy 88 fight scene which is in color with extended footage, among other little things. I'd love to upgrade the quality to 4K, but the $30 price tag each with no new special features is a bummer. The steelbook is nice, but I actually prefer the design of the standard covers.
It is completely possible to rescan the OCN in 4K, reassemble the film, titles and color grade to match. This has been done many times! This would take money and time that even smaller labels will put in. The fact is, Lionsgate is launching their fake boutique label, emulating Paramounts, but not putting the effort into the movies. It’s all packaging and no substance. The good news is, I save about $50 not buying these 2. Studios also need to be upfront about this before release, it’s bordering on fraud.
The video is actually really bad. Not sure I'd say 1 out of 5, but it's pretty damn bad. Mainly because of the way the upscale handled the grain. They completely screwed it up, and it looks like bad compression artifacts you would see on a low bit-rate streaming show. The only good thing about this transfer is the colors, and especially the highlights. I wouldn't say this is even an "upgrade" at all over the Blu-ray. 😡
I loved every minute of it!!! The Steelbook art is sick.... so awesome the colors the sword effect in the slipcover 🔥4k is solid the detail and colors - music and sound 🔥 Is worth every penny... I love this movie. I have bought some Bad movies for way more money. I have been so excited waiting for my box to watch it. I didn't even watch the review until until after I did. im so happy with it!!!
Is Lion's Gate sending these out early for reviewers or are these starting to ship for everyone? I preordered the day they went live and I haven't received a shipping notice yet.
Love Kill Bill and every Tarantino film, but since the 4k transfer isn't mindblowingly better than the existing BluRay releases, I think I'm just gonna skip these and stick with my original BluRay steels from Best Buy that I got years ago. Glad I didn't jump the gun and held out. Just saved $80. Thanks, Ken!
I think the inglorious basterds Blu Ray is infinitely superior to the original Universal 4k. I haven't seen the new Arrow 4k but yeah I agree, 4k is not necessarily better than Blu ray
@@GamezGuru1 it's too bright and the flesh tones lean toward green. It would honestly make me feel like the tune on my TV is crap, except that it's almost the only disc I have that has those specific problems, and the regular blu ray look superb
I feel like Blu-ray seems brighter and easier to see than a lot of 4K movies, the skin tone on 4K looks a little better but overall a lot of times I find the Blu-ray’s to look brighter.
Bottom line, for me, the scene that sears 'Volume 1' into my mind is the moment that Flamenco-clap Santa Esmeralda version of 'Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood' kicks-off the Katana fight sequence is classic!
Great to hear it looks good on 4K, especially as you say, the second half! Pre-ordered all these SteelBooks with 20% off at HMV, just need a Hattori Hanzo sword to complete the collection... 😝
What's weird to me is the steelcase of vol 1 has better artwork but yet the standard vol 2 has better artwork than the steelcase at least in my opinion, You'd think they'd do the best artwork on the steelcases.
B.S. on that they couldn't go back and do a 4K master. All you have to do is go back to the 35mm master and scan it in 4K. The master is guaranteed in the vault somewhere and scanning to 4K is super easy these days. They just didn't want to pay for it because they know most people 1. Will never know it's a 2k DI and 2. Won't care. If the regular version goes on sale for under $10-15 then I'll pick it up. Otherwise the Blu is good enough for now. No way I'm paying $40 for an ugly steelbook (and I'm someone who LOVES steelbooks and this film in particular); I already have the superior art Blu steelbooks.
@@midlevelmedia A new 4K scan does nothing to change his "vision" or the look, etc. A master is a master. It is the final 35mm film copy of the movie exactly the way he intended. Scanning that master to 4K (or more likely 6K or 8K) just gives a better digital master with increased resolution (4-6K can capture all the resolution of 35mm film). From there they can "remaster" it if they want which might screw with things if not done correctly (see any James Cameron 4K release); but that's not necessary.
2K is blu ray quality. "Up-scaling" it to a 4K disc is exactly what you're 4K player does when it sends a 1080p resolution Blu Ray to your 4K TV. The only reason to buy a 4K upscale is that hopefully the upscale in the studio is better than your home player; which to some degree it probably is. I have a very decent Oppo player and the increase improvement from the 4K would only be the color management/HDR. To me that's worth $10-15 at the most. Re-do a proper 4K master and I'd pay what ever they would charge. I'd buy a $100+ deluxe edition if it was a true 4K image. LOL I've bought at least 4-5 4K copies of 2001: A Space Odyssey in various "deluxe" versions. I love that film too and it's true 4K and probably the best master I've ever seen.
I'm with you upscale is a cop out it isn't worth 35 40 dollars if you don't put your foot down you'll never know when to quit my blu ray is good enough
I'm glad these movies FINALLY got a 4k transfer. I'm sure it looks fine. But those steelbooks are not great. Mainly just not a fan of the colors. Yellow, red, and black would have been fine. But the pink makes it feel like Borderlands. I like what they did with Lucy Lui's head (didn't previously know about that). But the colors are awful. The 4k slipcover artwork is decent and I love the real color artwork on them. Wish the steelbook had that color pallet.
Well... either I order off scamazon and get a torn up piece of sh*t or I spend an arm and a leg on this steelbook which I can't really do right now because tax and shipping will bring this closer to like $55 or whatever. Unfortunately this video was uploaded a half hour ago so I missed the window to get these before selling out. So my options are either a $700 copy on eBay or have someone sh*t out a standard at the Scamazon warehouse. Oh well... 🤷♂️
The whole reason he did that scene in b&w was because either that or it would be cut to avoid NC17 rating.In Japan it was shown all in color.So why couldn't they do all color on 4k release..
That's not why at all. The scene going B&W is an homage to old samurai films. Kill Bill in its entirety is an homage to classic cinema. ruclips.net/video/Y4le3EDDAIQ/видео.html
@NeoAndersonChannel1 nah dude,if that would be the case he would shot that cut in b&w that's how it usually done.But he did it the whole thing in color including additional minutes crazy88 scene+cuts from anime wich is present on Japanese dvd.He did after was told he would get NC17 rating.Same goes for KB vol 2 b&w parts
I just watched the inglorious basterds Blu ray and the original Universal 4k back to back and the blu ray is far superior. I'm also awaiting the Django Unchained 4k but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it's inferior to the blu ray, the blu ray was superb
@@breadordecide yes! The Universal 4k is way too bright and the flesh tones are too green even tho I have the green turned down in my white balance. The blu ray is so much better it's a joy to watch. I think 1080p is plenty of resolution anyway, I'm not inches from the screen holding a damn magnifying glass
Think I'll be holding out for a proper rescan. As it is my early blu-ray release with uncompressed PCM soundtrack looks and sounds great upscaled by my old DP900.
Every review of these I've seen has been positive. This is the first time pre-ordering anything from them so hopefully they'll ship discs in time to be here by release date. At least my Inglorious Basterds from Arrow actually showed up from Amazon today.
Just because Kill Bill Vol 2 isn't as good as Vol 1, it doesn't mean that Vol 1 is a standalone movie. The die-hard fans of Kill Bill are refusing to acknowledge and accept the fact that Kill Bill 1&2 is one movie, just because they like Vol 1 better. If the director (Quentin Tarantino) says Kill Bill 1&2 is one movie, then it's one movie.
Great review, can’t wait to get mine. I just ordered the nonsteelbook versions even though the steelbooks are beautiful. My Blurays are quite old and still have the non-lossless audio so these 4Ks will be a huge audio upgrade for me too. Disappointing that they cheaped out by introducing no new special features.
You may want to think that Kill Bill Vol: 1 is a standalone movie, but it's not! In reality, Kill Bill Vol I & 2 is one movie. That was Quentin Tarantino's intentions for the movie when he filmed both 1 & 2 together, as being a one 4-hour movie.
Precisely. Seeing each as its own movie is stupid. The beginning of Vol 2 is more narrative based, then gets back to 2 epic fights because the whole 4 hours can't be non-stop action. Like what are the cons to Vol. 2? It's not as exciting as Vol. 1? That's retarded. These aren't MCU movies with non-stop action. The Cruel Tutelage of Pai Mei is still one of the best chapters.
I forgot to mention, I thought the Anime style back story of Lucy Lu's Character was a great idea, as that will benefit the HDR, and the Hattori Hanzo's scenes made me laugh, great comedy moments. Sunny Chiba was a Legend too.
The fight with Elle Driver was better than O Shi Ren, The Bride makes her look inadequate , the ending with The Bride went on for too long , Does Tarantino self edit, cos that part is too talky, sorry about the beginning Ken thats in no 2 its just my opinion.
I love Kill Bill 1 and 2‼ ... I hate to say it, but the artworks on both steel books are dreadful. I would have preferred the original picture of Uma holding the sword downright‼ ⚔
Can’t wait to get my copies in. I’m going with the Slipcovers for Jackie Brown and Kill Bill because I own Django and Hateful Eight on Blu Ray with slipcovers but when they release the 4K editions I’ll be just getting the Slipcovers for them. Can’t wait to revisit them because me and my mom rented them and we were blown away by how crazy it got especially during the final big set piece
I preordered these Steelbooks Vol 1 and Vol 2. I still only own my original DVD release copies and it was well past time for an upgrade. I’m not sorry as they’re really nice.
Also I will say this, if you are even remotely interested or think you might be interested in the Steelbook, don’t let the 40$ now bother you, re-sellers on eBay and such will buy them up and charge 2-3x that price, or more
Paramount should released instead of liongate like they does with pulp fiction because it was by miramax strange that liongate as the right of kill bill vol 1 and 2 🤔
Mostly I just want the Steelbook so it looks nicer on my shelf than the old Blu-ray double-pack I have in the standard case... As long as the 4K looks at least somewhat better than the Blu-rays, I will be happy.
Someone else mentioned this as well but it almost looks like it has compression as opposed to grain. From the opening shot in black and white I thought it looked like a streaming flick that hadn’t quite finished buffering. The HDR is nice but overall this a disappointing image.
i was hoping to get the crazy 88 scene colorized because its way different for those that have seen it. but i still need the movie in 4k so its whatever
When it comes to Kill Bill, people really need to start tempering their expectations when it gets physical media releases. 1. The international release with the black and white is always going to be the version we see. 2. The Japanese release with the full color uncut scenes has ONLY ever gotten a dvd release in Japan. All other releases in Japan have been the “US version” with the black and white. Let’s face it, it’s the version that Tarantino himself has accepted as the version he intends to release on physical media. 3. The Whole Bloody Affair may never see the light of day on physical media. In fact it doesn’t even fully exist except for a cut that Tarantino made for Cannes and has subsequently screened in his own theater in Los Angeles. Otherwise, there is no evidence that any new animation parts exist except that it was talked about decades ago at this point. Otherwise it’s safe to say the edit that Tarantino did already is just the Japanese cut edited with vol 2 with a couple scenes taken out of vol 1. 4. Tarantino has already said that he doesn’t see TWBA being released on physical media. We need to let it go. 5. From what I understand, and this is is the case with many films shot in the early 2000’s, it’s not as easy to just scan from the original negative. As with Inglorious Basterds, there are technicalities that make the 2k DI more practical to work with to upscale instead. So please don’t go into most films being upgraded to 4k from this time period expecting to see a native 4k presentation. It will look great still but it won’t look like a new movie. I think we need to start appreciating that for what it is.
What you are saying is true, but I found the other day online on a not so legal website (The Jack Sparrow Bay if you know what I mean) a very recently released version of Kill Bill Vol 1 in 4K (the file was 51gb) and at my surprise it was the Japanese cut, and it was all in glorious 4K, not the international version with upscaled footage from the Japanese cut taken from the DVD (what would look awful in 4K), it was the Japanese cut with the black and white all in full color. Only difference is the opening said "Revenge is a dish best served cold" instead of "This movie is dedicated to master filmmaker Kinji Fukasaku". So there is a 4K copy of the Japanese cut out there somewhere. Just saying.
Im waiting on these since im not too sure how its going to look and there are no new extras. And the steelbooks are way over priced. This is for collectors, not your average consumer 😔 I really wanted to be more excited for Kill Bill 1&2. Its one of my favs from QT.
I pre-ordered mine the first day pre-orders went up. Being that I am just a pleeb I have not got my copy yet. I know official release date is next Tuesday, but knowing shipping I will consider myself lucky if I still get this month.
You need to check out Shawscope Volume 1. You will know what I mean once you pop in the first movie, King Boxer. Pai Mei is the villain in one of the movies; Executioners from Shaolin, I think. These are kungfu movies from the 1960s, so don’t expect them to be as elegantly choreographed as Kill Bill’s. They get better in the 1970s. Also, watch Game of Death. Actually, watch the other Bruce Lee films first before Game of Death, which is a bit wonky due to the fact that Lee died early in the production of the film, so you can kind of imagine what they had to do (without CG) to make it seem like he’s still around for a good duration of the film.
@ Some may be a bit hard to get through, but if you can stomach those Z-grade films from Vinegar Syndrome, this should be a walk in the park. 😂 My highlights from that box would be Five Venoms, Dirty Ho (it’s not what you think), Heroes of the East, and the ridiculous King Kong rip-off, Mighty Peking Man. Others would point out that the other films are classics too, but I don’t think they aged as well as these ones (except for MPM).
Come on guys. Its never meant to look like an eye candy. Its gritty and raw. I am pretty sure it will look how it is intended to look. Those of you want to keep your blu rays good for you but you are not a fan then.
Does anyone know what kind of 4K TV you have why isn't that constantly mentioned in your options? I think anyone listing to someone's options when it comes to 4k movies should own a top tier TV and surround sound unit. It's just odd to me why anyone would care about your opinion. It's like if I asked you what kind of steak you like to eat before I make my decision I just don't give it😂 If you like this movie most likely your buying.
I wish you would let us know if the special features are available on both disks. This factors into my buying choices. Is the blu ray a bonus or required as it holds all the special features?
I was a fan of Lionsgate Steelbooks at $25-$30 but not $40. The Walmart exclusives are $43. I'll wait for a sale or a better edition for that much money.
Great movies and I like the steel books. I’d been hoping this would get a chunky box set release - with the uncensored Whole Blood Affair and loads of extra features and deleted scenes. I wonder if it’ll be released in future as some sort of special / anniversary edition.
something to know is this is approved by Tarantino the video, the audio and even the extras are as he wants them to be so if you have a problem with this release take it up with Tarantino
I don't have a problem I'll just save my money. I don't know why you're so salty for Quentin Tarantino maybe you should get his sausage out of your mouth
Just watched this, and it's really bad. The only reason to bother with this is if you don't already have the Blu-ray. The film grain in this is just entirely messed up, and there's lots of blurring and what looks like compression artifacts. Half of the time it also looks like the grain is actually some sort of filter or screen that everything is actually behind, so when objects move, they move independently of the grain and it doesn't look right at all.
If it is Limited, then it should have all the features like Arrow Video & Second Sight for $39.99. Not truly boutique yet? Paying more for the steelbook artwork. Oh Ken by the way my Inglorious Bastards 4K boxset was not sold out at Barnes & Noble. Their website said sold out and I could not reserved for in-store pick-up. when I got there, they had 2 copies of the 4K version sitting on the display. So I bought one and had my copy of 4K version of Trick R Treat reserved. Now I know that location is not accurate.
Is It the Uncensored Japanese Edition? I refuse to buy anything until that one is out. (The way to tell is the Eyeball pluck scene is all in color no B&W, and at the end The Bride cuts off Sophie's other arm "Give Me Your Other Arm!!!" If you look when she rolls down the hill she has no arms left)
The regular version is enough for me for this release, the steelbook is not that great imo. Awesome movie though, definitely an all time Top 10 for me.
This is Not perfect. I've had the Japanese DVD release which doesn't have the censored black and white scenes. Get that version as it's the one Tarantino wanted to release before the ratings board got a hold of it.
This is not true.... it was always meant to be black and white. His plan was to get an x rating and then switch to to black and white to compromise but he ended up getting an R, so he changed it anyway. Read the original script, it says the color switches.
Because of the way Tarintino shoots his films. I just don't have much faith any of his 4ks will blow me away. I would still like a Tarantino 4k Box set and won't buy them until the Box Set. I'll rent them.
I think we need to stop making excuses for 2K upscales when Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs both had their film reels rescanned into native 4k, and even lower budget releases for less revered movies like Mask of The Phantasm go the extra mile and rescan all the negatives. Such a shame, especially considering this is likely the last transfer we'll ever get of this movie, a cheap option to get a quick buck out of a beloved property
Did you listen to his explanation? There's a legitimate reason for it. They had no native 4k reel to scan
@@NYC_Goody They did, the original camera and film negatives which are definitely preserved somewhere in a studio vault, it just takes time and effort to re-edit and color time for a new DI, and they didn't want to spend the money on it. Meanwhile SEINFELD and FRIENDS had all of its footage rescanned in 4k. It's a lot easier for studios to dig up an old 2K DI file, run an upscale program, and pay for someone to slap on some HDR than to do the job properly. This and Inglorious Basterds could have been reference quality discs, but they cheaped out.
@@StickyProductionstmfriends was infested with ai tinkering loll and Seinfeld was straight up shot on film with no digital intermediate finish. There's a difference there
@@NYC_Goody Alright, look at Shaun of The Dead. Shot on film, edited digitally, 2K intermediate, already on 4k. For the anniversary they decided to go the extra mile and rescan the reels in 4k and redo the color grading in Dolby Vision. Effort has to be there
Stop making excuses and just admit you don't really care about picture quality. If they wanted to do it properly, they would. They are just being greedy and lazy, and they can afford to do so because of people like you and your low standards. @NYC_Goody
Speaking of Kung Fu movies, they really need to make Kung Fu Hustle in 4k now.
I agree, but let's get Shaolin Soccer in HD first.
I have Kill Bill The Whole Bloody Affair on Blu-ray which seamlessly combines both movies and includes alternate angles, a deleted scene reinserted, the Japanese edit of The Crazy 88 fight scene which is in color with extended footage, among other little things. I'd love to upgrade the quality to 4K, but the $30 price tag each with no new special features is a bummer.
The steelbook is nice, but I actually prefer the design of the standard covers.
where did you get that from?
@@MichelleAlexandria-EMbootleg
Yeah, this is IMHO the ultimate edition of the movie. Sadly the 4K is a sidegrade; better in some ways, worse in others.
@@MichelleAlexandria-EMcame out years ago, can buy online
That's the worst version of the movie.
It is completely possible to rescan the OCN in 4K, reassemble the film, titles and color grade to match. This has been done many times! This would take money and time that even smaller labels will put in. The fact is, Lionsgate is launching their fake boutique label, emulating Paramounts, but not putting the effort into the movies. It’s all packaging and no substance. The good news is, I save about $50 not buying these 2. Studios also need to be upfront about this before release, it’s bordering on fraud.
Agreed. Had I known it was a 2K DI I might have reconsidered my preorders. 😠
They do that mostly only for big important films. Lesser films only get upgrade.
@@haukionkannel Calling Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2 "lesser films" should have you to taken to a public market and slapped repeatedly.
Heh! I like Kill Bill but in general it is not ”big film” in the eyes of the big public.
So not sure how many 🎉het expect to sell these 4K versions…
You guys are pushing it a bit far lol
I really do miss Best Buy 😢
“Upscaled”
Immediate no sale.
I got all "Tino" movies 🍿 on Blu Ray. I'm happy 😊
Carl from HD Movie Source gave the video on this a 1 out of 5
He’s a moron.
The video is actually really bad. Not sure I'd say 1 out of 5, but it's pretty damn bad. Mainly because of the way the upscale handled the grain. They completely screwed it up, and it looks like bad compression artifacts you would see on a low bit-rate streaming show. The only good thing about this transfer is the colors, and especially the highlights. I wouldn't say this is even an "upgrade" at all over the Blu-ray. 😡
It's a disgrace
I loved every minute of it!!! The
Steelbook art is sick.... so awesome the colors the sword effect in the slipcover 🔥4k is solid the detail and colors - music and sound 🔥 Is worth every penny... I love this movie. I have bought some Bad movies for way more money.
I have been so excited waiting for my box to watch it. I didn't even watch the review until until after I did. im so happy with it!!!
7:36 is when the actual disc review starts
he can talk the ear off a wooden indian
Thanks saves me having to write this
Omg thank you, dont know this guy but def. skipping this dude when possible, what a drag to watch
@ it reminds me of when you look up a recipe online and they give you their entire life story beforehand
Is the movie uncut like the japanese cut?
The way I understood it reading other reviews, this is simply an upscale.
I think I am sticking with the blu ray. Maybe down the road if the standard editions goes down in price.
How well does Lionsgate package their shipments? Awaiting my steelbooks.
Fantastically. So much bubble wrap it’s nuts.
Bubble wrap for days
How do both films in 4K with their DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 mixes sound compared to their LPCM 5.1 counterparts found on their past Blu-ray's?
Is Lion's Gate sending these out early for reviewers or are these starting to ship for everyone? I preordered the day they went live and I haven't received a shipping notice yet.
I got my Jackie Brown today
Do you think Japan will get a 4k of the Japanese Cut of Kill Bill? If so would you import of it had English with hard Japanese subs?
Love Kill Bill and every Tarantino film, but since the 4k transfer isn't mindblowingly better than the existing BluRay releases, I think I'm just gonna skip these and stick with my original BluRay steels from Best Buy that I got years ago. Glad I didn't jump the gun and held out. Just saved $80. Thanks, Ken!
I think the inglorious basterds Blu Ray is infinitely superior to the original Universal 4k. I haven't seen the new Arrow 4k but yeah I agree, 4k is not necessarily better than Blu ray
@@phizix215 Nice man. Like I said, it’s an upgrade, but marginal at best. Totally get it.
@@MC-bh8ph whats so bad about the universal 4k? - 90% of reviews are overwhelmingly positive.
@@GamezGuru1 it's too bright and the flesh tones lean toward green. It would honestly make me feel like the tune on my TV is crap, except that it's almost the only disc I have that has those specific problems, and the regular blu ray look superb
I feel like Blu-ray seems brighter and easier to see than a lot of 4K movies, the skin tone on 4K looks a little better but overall a lot of times I find the Blu-ray’s to look brighter.
Has it got the full color version? I have the Japanese limited release that doesn’t switch to B&W, but would love it in 4K.
Same, I imported the Japanese DVD copy for the color version and a 4K would be much nicer
I’m going to say no as it’s only available in Japan I too imported the Japanese version of both so I’ll wait I think
The fan edit is the only way to watch this film, all deleted scenes restored and no B&W censorship bullshit
Bottom line, for me, the scene that sears 'Volume 1' into my mind is the moment that Flamenco-clap Santa Esmeralda version of 'Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood' kicks-off the Katana fight sequence is classic!
I love it so much. So good!
Does it have the uncut scenes?
Thanks for the link! I just put in for the steelbooks of vol 1 and 2. I had know idea these were coming out!
The blu ray is good enough but I’m only buying these since I love kill
Bill and the packaging 😁
@@iExcaliburWorld Package collectors unite! 😆
Great to hear it looks good on 4K, especially as you say, the second half! Pre-ordered all these SteelBooks with 20% off at HMV, just need a Hattori Hanzo sword to complete the collection... 😝
What's weird to me is the steelcase of vol 1 has better artwork but yet the standard vol 2 has better artwork than the steelcase at least in my opinion, You'd think they'd do the best artwork on the steelcases.
B.S. on that they couldn't go back and do a 4K master. All you have to do is go back to the 35mm master and scan it in 4K. The master is guaranteed in the vault somewhere and scanning to 4K is super easy these days. They just didn't want to pay for it because they know most people 1. Will never know it's a 2k DI and 2. Won't care. If the regular version goes on sale for under $10-15 then I'll pick it up. Otherwise the Blu is good enough for now. No way I'm paying $40 for an ugly steelbook (and I'm someone who LOVES steelbooks and this film in particular); I already have the superior art Blu steelbooks.
I think Quentin had more to do with that than Lionsgate. Probably didn’t want to change his original vision.
@@midlevelmedia A new 4K scan does nothing to change his "vision" or the look, etc. A master is a master. It is the final 35mm film copy of the movie exactly the way he intended. Scanning that master to 4K (or more likely 6K or 8K) just gives a better digital master with increased resolution (4-6K can capture all the resolution of 35mm film). From there they can "remaster" it if they want which might screw with things if not done correctly (see any James Cameron 4K release); but that's not necessary.
2K is blu ray quality. "Up-scaling" it to a 4K disc is exactly what you're 4K player does when it sends a 1080p resolution Blu Ray to your 4K TV. The only reason to buy a 4K upscale is that hopefully the upscale in the studio is better than your home player; which to some degree it probably is. I have a very decent Oppo player and the increase improvement from the 4K would only be the color management/HDR. To me that's worth $10-15 at the most. Re-do a proper 4K master and I'd pay what ever they would charge. I'd buy a $100+ deluxe edition if it was a true 4K image. LOL I've bought at least 4-5 4K copies of 2001: A Space Odyssey in various "deluxe" versions. I love that film too and it's true 4K and probably the best master I've ever seen.
Cancelling my order. I'm not going to support their lazy remasters. When they do a proper 4K rescan I'll pony up the cash. Especially for 30-40 bucks.
I'm with you upscale is a cop out it isn't worth 35 40 dollars if you don't put your foot down you'll never know when to quit my blu ray is good enough
Hey Ken 👋 I can't wait till i get my 4k Steelbook copies of all three movies Kill Bill 1 & 2 and Jackie Brown next week delivered to my doorstep 👌
I'm glad these movies FINALLY got a 4k transfer. I'm sure it looks fine. But those steelbooks are not great. Mainly just not a fan of the colors. Yellow, red, and black would have been fine. But the pink makes it feel like Borderlands. I like what they did with Lucy Lui's head (didn't previously know about that). But the colors are awful. The 4k slipcover artwork is decent and I love the real color artwork on them. Wish the steelbook had that color pallet.
I'll pick these up down the line when GRUV or Amazon has 3 for $33 or similar sales. Not paying $30 each unless the transfer is phenomenal.
Amazon never has 3 for $33 for 4K movies.
@@slimdude2011 It's going on right now. I assume this is sarcasm rather than ignorance?
Well... either I order off scamazon and get a torn up piece of sh*t or I spend an arm and a leg on this steelbook which I can't really do right now because tax and shipping will bring this closer to like $55 or whatever. Unfortunately this video was uploaded a half hour ago so I missed the window to get these before selling out. So my options are either a $700 copy on eBay or have someone sh*t out a standard at the Scamazon warehouse. Oh well... 🤷♂️
The whole reason he did that scene in b&w was because either that or it would be cut to avoid NC17 rating.In Japan it was shown all in color.So why couldn't they do all color on 4k release..
That's not why at all. The scene going B&W is an homage to old samurai films. Kill Bill in its entirety is an homage to classic cinema.
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@NeoAndersonChannel1 nah dude,if that would be the case he would shot that cut in b&w that's how it usually done.But he did it the whole thing in color including additional minutes crazy88 scene+cuts from anime wich is present on Japanese dvd.He did after was told he would get NC17 rating.Same goes for KB vol 2 b&w parts
Better be getting
Django unchained & hateful 8 4ks next
And Death Proof!
I just watched the inglorious basterds Blu ray and the original Universal 4k back to back and the blu ray is far superior. I'm also awaiting the Django Unchained 4k but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it's inferior to the blu ray, the blu ray was superb
@@MC-bh8ph I agree 100%. The skin tones and colors are superior on the IB bluray. The 4k is washed out and at times ugly.
@@breadordecide yes! The Universal 4k is way too bright and the flesh tones are too green even tho I have the green turned down in my white balance. The blu ray is so much better it's a joy to watch. I think 1080p is plenty of resolution anyway, I'm not inches from the screen holding a damn magnifying glass
was hoping the pitcher quality was going to be amazing
Think I'll be holding out for a proper rescan. As it is my early blu-ray release with uncompressed PCM soundtrack looks and sounds great upscaled by my old DP900.
Every review of these I've seen has been positive. This is the first time pre-ordering anything from them so hopefully they'll ship discs in time to be here by release date. At least my Inglorious Basterds from Arrow actually showed up from Amazon today.
I agree, this movie stands on its own. I love it from start to finish. The second one just didn't hit as good to me, and I don't know why
Just because Kill Bill Vol 2 isn't as good as Vol 1, it doesn't mean that Vol 1 is a standalone movie. The die-hard fans of Kill Bill are refusing to acknowledge and accept the fact that Kill Bill 1&2 is one movie, just because they like Vol 1 better. If the director (Quentin Tarantino) says Kill Bill 1&2 is one movie, then it's one movie.
no new features, no audio upgrade and a marginal picture upgrade. But as I never had the blu ray , I am in.
You can buy the blu-rays both films for less than $20 and I kill Bill volume 1 and 2 double pack. Save yourself 60 bucks
Great review, can’t wait to get mine. I just ordered the nonsteelbook versions even though the steelbooks are beautiful. My Blurays are quite old and still have the non-lossless audio so these 4Ks will be a huge audio upgrade for me too. Disappointing that they cheaped out by introducing no new special features.
You may want to think that Kill Bill Vol: 1 is a standalone movie, but it's not! In reality, Kill Bill Vol I & 2 is one movie. That was Quentin Tarantino's intentions for the movie when he filmed both 1 & 2 together, as being a one 4-hour movie.
Precisely. Seeing each as its own movie is stupid. The beginning of Vol 2 is more narrative based, then gets back to 2 epic fights because the whole 4 hours can't be non-stop action.
Like what are the cons to Vol. 2? It's not as exciting as Vol. 1? That's retarded. These aren't MCU movies with non-stop action. The Cruel Tutelage of Pai Mei is still one of the best chapters.
I forgot to mention, I thought the Anime style back story of Lucy Lu's Character was a great idea, as that will benefit the HDR, and the Hattori Hanzo's scenes made me laugh, great comedy moments. Sunny Chiba was a Legend too.
Hello. Any word yet on 4K releases of the first 20 James Bond films?
They're saying a Connery set late 2025. Who knows if it will actually come out.
The fight with Elle Driver was better than O Shi Ren, The Bride makes her look inadequate , the ending with The Bride went on for too long , Does Tarantino self edit, cos that part is too talky, sorry about the beginning Ken thats in no 2 its just my opinion.
I love Kill Bill 1 and 2‼ ... I hate to say it, but the artworks on both steel books are dreadful. I would have preferred the original picture of Uma holding the sword downright‼ ⚔
Pass
I have both of these on the way from Lions Gate. Did get my copy of the Snowpiercer 4k steel today, another awesome release.
@@richardbaker183 They are on fire right now!
Can’t wait to get my copies in. I’m going with the Slipcovers for Jackie Brown and Kill Bill because I own Django and Hateful Eight on Blu Ray with slipcovers but when they release the 4K editions I’ll be just getting the Slipcovers for them. Can’t wait to revisit them because me and my mom rented them and we were blown away by how crazy it got especially during the final big set piece
I like vol. 1 and 2 since watching them a while back. I already bought both sbs last week & just waiting on their arrival.
Does this have the crazy 88 fight in colour? Dont cate if its an upscale. It'll look better than my Japanese DVD where the scene is in colour.
Isn't Oren's name pounced differently in the film than how you say it..?
You tell me.
I preordered these Steelbooks Vol 1 and Vol 2. I still only own my original DVD release copies and it was well past time for an upgrade. I’m not sorry as they’re really nice.
I have the XX Collection. I’m good for now. I wouldn’t buy Kill Bill unless it’s the Whole Bloody Affair.
Also I will say this, if you are even remotely interested or think you might be interested in the Steelbook, don’t let the 40$ now bother you, re-sellers on eBay and such will buy them up and charge 2-3x that price, or more
Fail. I'll wait until it's $10. I'll keep watching my Whole Bloody Affair on Blu-ray.
Is the battle of the Crazy 88 in color or still in b&w?
I love kill bill
I prefer the aerwork on the slipcover version, i mean who did the designs of the 4k/ steelbooks of kill bill, not great, what were they thinking?
Paramount should released instead of liongate like they does with pulp fiction because it was by miramax strange that liongate as the right of kill bill vol 1 and 2 🤔
Mostly I just want the Steelbook so it looks nicer on my shelf than the old Blu-ray double-pack I have in the standard case... As long as the 4K looks at least somewhat better than the Blu-rays, I will be happy.
Someone else mentioned this as well but it almost looks like it has compression as opposed to grain. From the opening shot in black and white I thought it looked like a streaming flick that hadn’t quite finished buffering. The HDR is nice but overall this a disappointing image.
DOUBLE DIPPING!!🤘
As long as its an upgrade ill take it :D
Definitely an upgrade. Just keep your expectations tempered.
i was hoping to get the crazy 88 scene colorized because its way different for those that have seen it. but i still need the movie in 4k so its whatever
When it comes to Kill Bill, people really need to start tempering their expectations when it gets physical media releases.
1. The international release with the black and white is always going to be the version we see.
2. The Japanese release with the full color uncut scenes has ONLY ever gotten a dvd release in Japan. All other releases in Japan have been the “US version” with the black and white. Let’s face it, it’s the version that Tarantino himself has accepted as the version he intends to release on physical media.
3. The Whole Bloody Affair may never see the light of day on physical media. In fact it doesn’t even fully exist except for a cut that Tarantino made for Cannes and has subsequently screened in his own theater in Los Angeles. Otherwise, there is no evidence that any new animation parts exist except that it was talked about decades ago at this point. Otherwise it’s safe to say the edit that Tarantino did already is just the Japanese cut edited with vol 2 with a couple scenes taken out of vol 1.
4. Tarantino has already said that he doesn’t see TWBA being released on physical media. We need to let it go.
5. From what I understand, and this is is the case with many films shot in the early 2000’s, it’s not as easy to just scan from the original negative. As with Inglorious Basterds, there are technicalities that make the 2k DI more practical to work with to upscale instead. So please don’t go into most films being upgraded to 4k from this time period expecting to see a native 4k presentation. It will look great still but it won’t look like a new movie. I think we need to start appreciating that for what it is.
What you are saying is true, but I found the other day online on a not so legal website (The Jack Sparrow Bay if you know what I mean) a very recently released version of Kill Bill Vol 1 in 4K (the file was 51gb) and at my surprise it was the Japanese cut, and it was all in glorious 4K, not the international version with upscaled footage from the Japanese cut taken from the DVD (what would look awful in 4K), it was the Japanese cut with the black and white all in full color. Only difference is the opening said "Revenge is a dish best served cold" instead of "This movie is dedicated to master filmmaker Kinji Fukasaku". So there is a 4K copy of the Japanese cut out there somewhere. Just saying.
It has to be the steelbook collection
Im waiting on these since im not too sure how its going to look and there are no new extras. And the steelbooks are way over priced. This is for collectors, not your average consumer 😔 I really wanted to be more excited for Kill Bill 1&2. Its one of my favs from QT.
I pre-ordered mine the first day pre-orders went up. Being that I am just a pleeb I have not got my copy yet. I know official release date is next Tuesday, but knowing shipping I will consider myself lucky if I still get this month.
Kill bill is your top 20 kill bill is my favorite MOVIE OF ALL TIME LITERALLY OBSESSED
Nice! Definitely worthy!
You need to check out Shawscope Volume 1. You will know what I mean once you pop in the first movie, King Boxer. Pai Mei is the villain in one of the movies; Executioners from Shaolin, I think. These are kungfu movies from the 1960s, so don’t expect them to be as elegantly choreographed as Kill Bill’s. They get better in the 1970s. Also, watch Game of Death. Actually, watch the other Bruce Lee films first before Game of Death, which is a bit wonky due to the fact that Lee died early in the production of the film, so you can kind of imagine what they had to do (without CG) to make it seem like he’s still around for a good duration of the film.
Revisiting these really made me want to dive into Shawscope.
@ Some may be a bit hard to get through, but if you can stomach those Z-grade films from Vinegar Syndrome, this should be a walk in the park. 😂 My highlights from that box would be Five Venoms, Dirty Ho (it’s not what you think), Heroes of the East, and the ridiculous King Kong rip-off, Mighty Peking Man. Others would point out that the other films are classics too, but I don’t think they aged as well as these ones (except for MPM).
Come on guys. Its never meant to look like an eye candy. Its gritty and raw. I am pretty sure it will look how it is intended to look. Those of you want to keep your blu rays good for you but you are not a fan then.
I'd rather not spend £35 on a piss poor 4K release.
the fan made upscale beats this imo
Lots of misinformation about 2K DI and whatnot.
I was going to say. Doesn't Tarantino exclusively use film?
For me i can not think on Kill Bill as just the first movie, for me thats just half of a movie, both volumes are one single thing in my opinion
Kill vol 1 is one of my all time fav films. Vol 2 was a huge slog for me, and the climax was just meh. Never understood why people liked it so much
Love the movie, love Steelbooks. But I can't justify $39.99 for a movie. I'll stay with the Blu-ray version
KB 1/2 should have been combined like the whole bloody affair.
Does anyone know what kind of 4K TV you have why isn't that constantly mentioned in your options? I think anyone listing to someone's options when it comes to 4k movies should own a top tier TV and surround sound unit. It's just odd to me why anyone would care about your opinion. It's like if I asked you what kind of steak you like to eat before I make my decision I just don't give it😂 If you like this movie most likely your buying.
Sometimes I mention this in my reviews, but it’s listed in the description below if you’re interested.
I think I’m gonna cancel my pre-order for these and Jackie Brown. So fed up with expensive 4K discs that are just lazy upscales.
May want to hold back on Jackie Brown. That’s not an upscale. That’s a native 4K.
@ owwww thanks for the heads up! :)
My goal is to have all Tarantino in Steelbook. Just need Django and Hateful 8 now
Definate let down by lack of special features, Must Try Harder, Not worth 40!!!
Do you like the kill bill mivies
Just pre order dirty Harry pale rider and the outlaw Josey Wales 4k steelbooks and Street trash collector's edition 😊😊
I wish you would let us know if the special features are available on both disks. This factors into my buying choices. Is the blu ray a bonus or required as it holds all the special features?
Special features are on both discs here.
I was a fan of Lionsgate Steelbooks at $25-$30 but not $40. The Walmart exclusives are $43. I'll wait for a sale or a better edition for that much money.
What Walmart exclusives?
Great movies and I like the steel books. I’d been hoping this would get a chunky box set release - with the uncensored Whole Blood Affair and loads of extra features and deleted scenes. I wonder if it’ll be released in future as some sort of special / anniversary edition.
This is kinda disappointing that it isn't a native transfer and no audio upgrade.
something to know is this is approved by Tarantino the video, the audio and even the extras are as he wants them to be so if you have a problem with this release take it up with Tarantino
I don't have a problem I'll just save my money. I don't know why you're so salty for Quentin Tarantino maybe you should get his sausage out of your mouth
He was fine with it coming out in DVD format too. Just because he "approved it" doesn't mean it's as good as it could be.
Good looking steelbooks but I wouldn't say lionsgate is coming back strong with $40 steelbooks.
You sold me Ken! Ima Def pick this one up myself. 😂
Just watched this, and it's really bad. The only reason to bother with this is if you don't already have the Blu-ray.
The film grain in this is just entirely messed up, and there's lots of blurring and what looks like compression artifacts. Half of the time it also looks like the grain is actually some sort of filter or screen that everything is actually behind, so when objects move, they move independently of the grain and it doesn't look right at all.
Cant wait another title we won't get till march in the uk why didn't they release the Japanese version also on 4k.
If it is Limited, then it should have all the features like Arrow Video & Second Sight for $39.99. Not truly boutique yet? Paying more for the steelbook artwork. Oh Ken by the way my Inglorious Bastards 4K boxset was not sold out at Barnes & Noble. Their website said sold out and I could not reserved for in-store pick-up. when I got there, they had 2 copies of the 4K version sitting on the display. So I bought one and had my copy of 4K version of Trick R Treat reserved. Now I know that location is not accurate.
Is It the Uncensored Japanese Edition? I refuse to buy anything until that one is out. (The way to tell is the Eyeball pluck scene is all in color no B&W, and at the end The Bride cuts off Sophie's other arm "Give Me Your Other Arm!!!" If you look when she rolls down the hill she has no arms left)
Actually, if you look when she rolls down she has one arm.... the black and white sequence was always intended
Keep your high hopes up. Regular version as will, unfortunately, be the case with Hateful Eight.
Vol I and II never felt like the same movie to me. Agreed. Vol I is SO much better than II.
Just got my email this morning:
"Pre-Shipment - Pre-Shipment, USPS Awaiting Item"
The regular version is enough for me for this release, the steelbook is not that great imo. Awesome movie though, definitely an all time Top 10 for me.
I got the kill bill 1&2 and Jackie brown slips all $26 each via diabolik
Kill Bill 2 is the better volume.
Kill Bill Vol. 1 ends on a massive cliffhanger and Bill is still alive. It sure isn't a standalone movie
This is Not perfect. I've had the Japanese DVD release which doesn't have the censored black and white scenes. Get that version as it's the one Tarantino wanted to release before the ratings board got a hold of it.
This is not true.... it was always meant to be black and white. His plan was to get an x rating and then switch to to black and white to compromise but he ended up getting an R, so he changed it anyway. Read the original script, it says the color switches.
Because of the way Tarintino shoots his films. I just don't have much faith any of his 4ks will blow me away. I would still like a Tarantino 4k Box set and won't buy them until the Box Set. I'll rent them.
Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction 4Ks both looked great.
@@Zachary_Dale Jackie Brown does too, apparently.