What Happened to Artfight
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- I've been participating in Artfight for three years, one thing I've noticed is the increasing hostility towards new participants and artists. I don't like that at all, especially for a community like this, so I discuss why I think that's stupid.
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Wow i really didn't know that artfight even had drama. I love artfight and I'm so happy to get absolutely any art and just draw gifts to various cool artist. Btw great video you have a wonderful point of view on this situation! ( Also you actually put attack for my character, Worm aaaaa i love this silly little attack so much!)
Bro fr!! Ive seen so many comments of people saying no thank you to beginer artists asking to draw somebodies oc on artfight! I literally cannot fathom that kind of mind set its so silly!
💕ty for commenting and supporting me homie!! (worm was so fun to draw literally love your ocs theyre so fun to color)
For the first time this year my fat OC was drawn as hazbin hotel level thin
EUGH THATS NOT GREAT
Myf ursonas plus sized and it makes me so mas when ppl draw him as like a stick figure
First year on art fight... I don't really hang around places where drama brews like tiktok or twitter, so I've mostly just been having fun with it!! Of course this is my first year like I said so I don't have a million attacks coming in or anything, but I'm SO grateful for everything I do get, I always gasp and smile when I get the notifs lmao
Thats great to hear! Small communities ftw
I genuinely didn’t realize that artists on artfight could be this petty?? The fact that some artists even DELETE art that they don’t think is high quality enough is beyond me, that’s so insanely disrespectful and if someone did that to me as a younger artist it would be absolutely crushing; in my first year of artfight getting attacks made my day and people need to realize that younger artists have feelings too and are just trying to grow and enjoy themselves like everyone else
I remember my first year on artfight and half my attacks didn’t get anything back 😭🙏🏼 no comments not even an emoji no revenge
It really hurt man
Last year I had someone attack me and ask me to remove their art from toyhouse and then deleted it off of artfight because I didn’t revenge it.
I always attack at least 3 beginner artists every year now since I remember how it felt my first year and I want to make sure they’re appreciated. Especially considering I am a somewhat mid sized creator on the platform. (Almost 200 followers, 104 attacks, about 90 defenses)
Oh wow that was extremely rude of them! The point of the event is to have fun and appreciate the art you get from others and attack back if you can! Recieving and attacking begginer artists is soo nice! Seeing them join and having fun with the event is just awesome! It's sad you had such experiences with it in the past though
I turned 30 this year and have always been intimidated by art fight even though I’ve been doing art commissions for many years now. thank you for this video it really helped simplify things for me again, I agree that it feels like the appreciation for art on social media nowadays is more competitive than ever this year, hopefully there are lots of budding artists who feel welcome and have fun, and maaaaybe I’ll work up my courage next year >.
Honestly a shame people are just wanting free, high quality artwork from Artfight. My favorite attack I've gotten this year is a piece of beginner artwork. It honors me someone wanted to draw my OC.
I think once the tiktok mass learns this isn't a free art request service, they'll gradually lose interest over time
I always find it's more fun to attack beginner artists bc often times you get to see them freak out and yell in the comment section when they see it and it's rlly wholesome, also some of their character designs rlly slap frfr
I just started this year, but I'm already starting to love Artfight! I don't understand the people who want art from popular artists, because when I get attacked, I feel honored that someone would put time and effort in drawing one of my characters
Right? I got an attack from a beginner artist and I am just in love :D
6:28 exactly!! My favorite is finding a really cute oc, and the owner / reference is clearly a beginner, and drawing it because i know when i first started it would make my whole day when someone would draw my characters, and i want others to get to feel that too ^^
I only joined Artfight this year and everyone I’ve met so far has been super nice and supportive! I didn’t even know AF had any drama tbh. I always make sure to comment on every attack I get and other attacks I think are cool!
That's the way to be homie 💕 I've noticied its more offsite drama than on site, im glad it hasn't affected your experience!
As an artfight veteran (have been participating for 11 years), I think people should stop looking at it like ''how good is the artist i'm attacking'' and rather look for ''what oc looks like fun to draw?''
From my experience, usually people will have it displayed on their profile if they're doing revenges or if they're only attacking random characters they think look neat.
Artfight becomes a lot more fun when you're, you know, drawing to have fun and with characters you think look fun. If you only draw for revenges that's a surefire recipe of getting burnt out really quickly.
ALSO!! IT IS OKAY TO ONLY DRAW ONE ATTACK PER SEASON!! And Mass attacks are a fun way to practice group shots and scenes!! Don't let social media discourage you from having fun during artfight season i beg you!!
Tbh this is my first year and I ended up prioritizing on revenging anyone who attacks me for 2 reasons:1) I got like, 40 attacks(which I assume is not the usual "af newbie" experience) 2)I really just want to show that I'm grateful for ppl who took the time and chose to draw my ocs out of all the ocs on the website and it just brings me joy that these people feel appreciated regardless of skills,
i had a beginner artist draw one my fave ocs. Said oc is a transformer, those are NOT easy to draw. I genuinely adore the art so much, being new and drawing MECHA? Thats amazing!!!
Woooo big hype for her!!
one complaint that I do have, is that NSFW artists that are doing SFW work for the event get harrassed because they draw fetish art normally... I had to deal with a user, who was a minor, who tried calling me out as a pedo and harrassing me on my socials, that are all 18+, yesterday... all because i draw bigger characters... im sure that Art fight has not been like that in the past... but as a first timer to this event, it was a massive disappointment that actually made me fear for my safety... so it is safe for me to say it is not a good look on the event to pretty much allow that to happen... even reported the user and I'm still waiting to see if they did anything (news flash... they didnt...) I'm gonna consider Artfight as extremely dangerous if this type of shit continues next year and i will not associate with the event if i even get a hint of it happening to me again
I feel so bad for you :[
im a minor and im fine with NSFW artist greeting me, i dont judge them. They are artist after all (if they are not problematic) Its just sad to see people got bullied for drawing things they like
@@FernzyFernz right?! Like I understand if fetish art is not as accepted because of the nature of the piece, but if people are gonna stalk me BECAUSE of that...I should be VERY concerned for my safety, and I am... like i even mentioned it in discord and people did agree that even artists who do suggestive material should not be judged for stepping out of their comfort zones for a temporary amount of time! Guess some people just naturally want to start problems that don't exist otherwise
@@ThiccTropius i draw both sfw and nsfw yet i have never been harrassed on af for that.. idk , maybe the fat fetish vibes arent strong enough for people to rat me out lol
@@Loveyourself21072 I mean... it is for me... but that leaves no right to kink shame regardless... besides! bigger and rounder characters are fun to draw. i have dabbled in to skinnier characters but it isn't nearly as fun... guess it is just a preference
the harsh truth of artfight is like. do NOT join if you're only doing it to get art from people. it's supposed to be a fun positive thing where you draw art for people and you get art back as a bonus.
luckily ive never run into anything, but ive seen a couple character profiles where they basically acted like they were getting free commissions. they wrote out exactly how to draw their character (background and everything) and its just insane to me how people could do that-
I've never taken part in artfight personally because of the fact I just don't have the time to spare. But to think that people genuinely bash on younger artists for drawing their characters is insane to me. Shouldn't you just be happy your OCs are getting what basically equivalents to free fanart? And all you have to do is attack back? It's a fair exchange, and I don't get the mentality of these people. I may not take part myself, but from what I've seen over the years, this is supposed to be a fun experience, not a time to hate on people for underdeveloped skills and/or being put in mass attacks.
(Also, i'd just like to comment that your art style is absolutely scrumptious, my guy. I love the detail you put into it)
As someone who has a lot of people avoid me due to other GROWN ADULTS starting drama just because said people are good artists has sucked. It stinks someone’s talent allows them to be bad people online and in these games.
On a more related note, everyone deserves to play even if they’re a beginner!! Like the fact you get any art is nice. You shouldn’t join just to get art - especially people who do this to up the price of their ocs - you should join because you want to draw.
Thats gross. It's always despicable to me when grown adults partake in such childish and entitled behavior. I'm sry u went thru that
People who are "doing it to up the price of their OCs" as you claim, sound like they're very much part of the problem
I'm a moderate artist. I'm experienced but I'm still tweaking and discovering my style. I attacked a beginner artist and they revenged me with the cutest attack of one of my easier to draw characters. In fact nearly every attack i have received has been of that Character because he's just so simple.
While it would be nice to receive attacks of some of my other Characters, i can understand why people might prefer to draw that character. I am pretty new to art fight, and i enjoy it a lot. And i love seeing peoples reactions to my attacks. That's what makes it worth it to me, is getting to see people enjoying my work. It's super validating and motivates me to continue making art
i may be a bit weird in this opinion but i actually love getting beginners art more than polished art. mostly because i then like3 to go back and see how much they improve over the years. i actually got a few pieces this year of a few more simple sketches and i love them so much. im currently working on a revenge piece for it ^-^ im sad to see the current drama in art fight and i hope it clears up next year and not get worse. until then im going to do what i can to make others (and myself) happy with art and characters and experiment with new styles
The very reason im afraid of joinning artfight is the fact im afraid toxic people will get to me, ive had experience with toxic people on the internet before, and i do not want to have another one of those experiences. I dont really wanna be shamed for my art by people who just want free art from popular/experienced artists...
The heck? Is it because I don't have tiktok or something cuz I legit havent noticed any difference from last year other than the custom border option
It's because all the drama happens not on artfight itself but on tiktok, of course
It's disheartening to hear this is happening 🙁 artfight is meant to be for funsies.
I'm not the biggest artist, but I do get a lot of attacks (currently gotten 28) and I'm grateful for every single one of them. Personally I make it my goal to revenge all of them as a thank you, but that's how I have fun and it's a way for me to interact with my community.
On another note, your artstyle is so cute and colourful! I really enjoyed watching the speedpaint ✨️
Thank you!!
All this artfight discourse reminds me that artfight exists, and makes me look forward to trying it next year. I've been in a financial rut this month so haven't had the time. But there's always next time
Exactly this. Thanks for the video. I find it weird or I can’t understand why people would complain about getting art. From beginner or not, isn’t it just the coolest thing, that someone decided to make art from your characters? Hope this will get to everyone. Like you said, just trying out new things, experimenting, having fun and a warm time. That I like too about Artfight.
I only learned about a few days before july this year, but I decided to not participate because I've been feeling burnt out and discouraged due to how I don't have many OCs. I plan to participate next year, but I'm super shocked by all the drama going on. Hoping to have a good experience next year! :D
Same, I just can’t come up with good ocs other than my main oc, who isn’t even really original because they’re a Splatoon character, but seeing everyone elses oc makes me inspired, I’m gonna try make a new oc now ٩(๑`^´๑)۶
i remember back when i was a beginner artist and terrified to join AF due to not feeling good enough, but i've been practicing drawing pretty much every day. i graduated high school this year and checked how much my art has improved since freshman year and it was by A LOT. i did my first artfight in 2023, and i did it again this year. a lot of my closest friends are beginner artists, and some talked about this issue. so instead of being like in 2023 and only drawing art for this one kind of mean professional artist, i instead mostly drew my friends' OCs.
hi artfight oldfart here (9 years, so basically as long as artfight has had it's current website)
I absolutely agree w/ the points in this video. I'm quite sad to see that artfight has started to become like this more and more. There's always been drama, but 2024 feels so different than 2016-19
also I've hunted you down on artfight >:D
oh lord lol
Honestly I looove when beginner artist attack or revenge me like yOU WANTED TO PRACTICE WITH MY OCS!? I adore it
was my first artfight this year and absolutely LOVED the experience
when something becomes popular on tiktok it’s almost NEVER a good thing
AF users have definitely gotten more entitled unfortunately ;; I quit 2 wks early this year bc someone complained abt a piece I gave them for being "inaccurate" (I forgot to flip my canvas back to the original orientation before uploading, that's literally it) but when I offered to take the attack down they just said "no it's okay!" then unfollowed me on other platforms. Like bruh, just say you expected me to bend over backwards and remake the piece or smth, idk. Not to mention mine was a revenge, and they didn't even attempt to draw my character accurately either 😬 Huuuge reason I'm no longer doing guaranteed revenge. It sucks, but some people will rush or only make a piece bc they want a revenge, and you can really tell they dgaf about the design or permissions. Most ppl aren't like that tho, just sucks that the bad apples are SO sour
This is my first year of art fight and thankfully nothing bad has happened. My favorite attacks are ones I do for beginner artists! It’s so much fun talking a design that’s simple and turning it into a fully shaded piece.
The online drama has made me a little worried though. I didn’t include some of my preference and have been scared to make big mass attacks :[
Please don't let the drama get to you! I've been doing AF for 7 years and I didn't even know there /was/ drama until I started getting told there is by youtube videos. Rude people are exceedingly rare on the site, I don't think I've ever had anyone put me down about a single thing I did on there.
Now i wish tiktok got banned or some shit lmao, maybe it'll help chronically online babies
It's really sad how beginner artists are always slandered for their art styles. We all start somewhere and the only way we'll ever get better is if we practice, and art fight is the perfect place for that. To experiment, branch out of our comfort zones and improve on our art further. To me, there's something special about receiving art from beginners and seeing beginners on af. I *love* receiving art from beginners, I was attacked by one earlier this season and it made me really happy. It has its own value to it which makes me really appreciate it. I love attacking beginners just as much as experienced artists. Art fight is *the* biggest opportunity for beginners to shine. Just like bigger and more experienced artists, beginners should get that spotlight too and receive just as much support for them to thrive. Beginners are the future of the art community and if people keep hating on them for their art, we could lose artists who have great potential.
I'm not a professional, and this is my first year in artfight, and one of the first drawings they made me was this half-bad drawing of my wombat oc.... AND I LOVED IT! The only thing I could think at that moment was: a person on this planet, among thousands of characters, has decided to pay attention to mine, and not only that, he/she has spent time drawing it without even knowing if i am going to appreciate it or compensate him (don't worry, I left him a nice comment and I drew a drawing of a Pokémon oc that he had that I liked), he /she only did it because she/he felt like it!!!
and that seems wonderful to me!!❤❤
Fr! Its the thought itself!!
I’ve been playing artfight for a few years now, and I’ve ALWAYS loved every single art piece I’ve gotten! No matter the skill, I will always comment pointing out everything I love about the piece. People have to remember.. out of theSEA of characters on artfight, someone chose to draw YOUR character! I just don’t get how people can’t appreciate getting art, especially from beginners. I love seeing beginner artists drawing my ocs as they are practicing there skill and will get better with every piece!
Me and my sister have been doing artfight since 2020 and we really enjoy it! I draw way more stuff than usual, and since i tend to put extra effort in things for others, it helps me improve too.
My sister is kinda the opposite of the people your talking about. She specifically seeks out beginner artists to attack, and this year shes only done fullbodys too.
I don't understand people being picky about the art they get. But i also havent noticed such people? I mean i don't interact with social media or talk on the discord so maybe its just on there
This drama always baffled me. Who in their right mind goes "ew, I don't want that" when they get something FOR FREE? It's way less effort to be kind and supportive ffs. Some ppl, my god
I’ve never joined artfight (I’ve only been drawing digitally and sharing online for three years or so and I’ve been busy every year I’ve had the opportunity) but the fact people expect something “perfect” out of everyone is, frankly, sad. If I were to join I’d probably only attack smaller artists with a less honed art style because no matter how good the art is I get back the biggest reward will always, ALWAYS be to make someone happy. Again, never joined, but that’s what AF should be about
the only issue ive seen is an overall slower and slower rates of attack/revenge. the af population has about tripled in 2 years. it just is a larger demand and beginner artists are jumping to the conclusion that its their art to blame.
the only issue ive personally seen is a negligence to read perms. i put in my perms “dont change the race/species/biological makeup of my oc” and they got species bent anyways :’) and ive heard a lot more complaints of perm breaks elsewhere too.
and with that overpopulation now, theres constantly questions repeated in the discord and help is severely limited and mods are rarely available. new fighters are struggling to be sure of the rules and get snarky quips from chat for not reading the question being asked 5 minutes ago when 300+ messages have been sent by then. this year is shockingly not beginner art fighter friendly, it seems. a shame its broken down like this, really
I do draw beginner artists characters! I’m in it to give gifts to others, not to receive them. Ofc it’s exciting to receive an attack or revenge but I have the most fun drawing others characters and seeing the lovely messages they leave me completely happy to get their character drawn ☺️ Drawing other people’s characters is a fun break from my own and a nice challenge.
I’ve never attacked a youtuber or anything 😅 Just whatever characters I find adorable I draw, which happens to be people who usually newer or aren’t picked much
right? Drawing for younger artists or just characters that haven't been attacked is honestly extra fun because people get so excited, and for me that's the point of artfight, so I always make sure to include at least a few every year. I'm super exited when my (very few, since I've been super lazy about making references >.
Oof I'm glad I haven't noticed the "art farming" sort of thing going on! I hate to hear that people are being hostile towards newer artists though >:/ I love all the art I get whether it's a doodle, new artist or mass attack. It's been a joyride for me this year, as it was last year.
The funnest part for me is challenging myself, experimenting- last year my goal was to draw as many attacks as possible (but not cheaply, just for fun), and this year it was to draw a 100 character mass attack. And seeing people happy that I drew for them. As long as I fulfill those two, I'm good. I can't afford to be competitive after losing five years in a row haha
I have never gotten more base and heavily referenced attacks than this year. It makes me so disappointed as I always get a lot of beginner artists attacking me, and its probably the best part to see how they grow over the years, but I just wish these new artists will realize we (or at least I) don't care about the quality, its about the the honestly and integrity that went into the drawing. I found this one artist who had used bases for every attack they made. Whether it was a png, or an online color page. I tried to tell them nicely that it was against the rules as best as I could. Next thing I know the off-topic channel in the Server was going crazy over the fact that "someone tried to make them quit artfight" :\
I've not noticed any of the drama but I pretty much avoid social media for the most part. Ive done Art fight for years, it's really fun, I am severely ill with chronic illness and when I started I was worried I wouldn't be able to participate or return art, however I just go at my own pace and its been a great way to interact with other artists that I usually don't get to do.
For anyone saying they are too nervous to try it, just give it a go, it's not a contract and if you can't keep up that's ok and you might be surprised with what you can do. I have seen my ability improve each year and because I am better/faster at art now, I am able to attack/defend more people. I still dont get as many attacks as most users seem to but it still makes my day and is always appreciated. Especially because my illness makes it really difficult for me to socialise with other artists (or people in general lol) so it's a real bonus for me.
I also have always chosen to attack any artist of any level and don't understand why people are so greedy and selfish with what is meant to be a fun event for all artists to interact with each other. Dismissing beginners art is so entitled and rude. Hopefully this is the minority still, so far I have experienced a lot of positivity with those I've interact with.
I gotta say that AF really decreased in the fun recently. Even if youre putting in permissions to NOT draw your characters in mass attacks, it will happen anyway! Im not even gonna MENTION how many permissions other than that get ignored. While the drawings ive got were very cute, Ive got FOUR while having specified i dont want my OCs in them. I can understand one, as it was for convinience (there were over 90 characters) and it was my mutual, but almost seems like most did not read.
I wish I had more time there's so many lovely ocs that haven't been attacked yet
No hate to you OP, I don't disagree with what's said in this video, just sharing my experiences after participating for 5 years now.
I've seen a lot of videos like this this year, but in my experience these are issues that have always existed and aren't necessarily more prevalent compared to other years?
I do think some of them are somewhat rooted in a valid concern, like how some people make rushed mass attacks as a way of farming points/revenges (but the amount of people who actually do that is so low it's negligable). But then those valid arguments get adopted by entitled people who are just out to get free HQ art to justify their shitty opinions/behaviour.
I also haven't actually seen any of these issues occur, I've only seen videos saying that they're occurring. The only thing I've noticed this year is that there seems to be a slight increase in people basically ignoring attacks. Of course, you're not obliged to revenge at all, but I feel like you should at least comment to thank whoever attacked you for putting in the time and effort to draw you something. That's just basic respect. The only time I've ignored an attack was one that got colours entirely wrong and missed like half the markings, clearly not paying attention to the design.
All that being said, that's just my experience. The increase in people ignoring attacks may just be pure coincidence on my end. Over all I still think that while there are minor issues/annoyances, it's not enough to ruin the event. Happy Art Fight y'all!
I'll prob never join artfight because I do art for a living and am way too busy. But I get fan art time to time and I can't imagine being picky with it-- I'm happy to receive art of my character no matter who drew it. It's such a flattering honor knowing someone likes your character or art enough to take time out of their day to make you something, even if they're not as good as they could be yet.
I was in college doing this art fight so I didn’t do a lot.
But my main goal for art fight was to target more of smaller artist or lesser known folks. I wanted them to have fun.
To me personally it is fine if people join artfight to receive art, it is a normal thing to want but in that case you should still manage your expectations and remember that no one owes you free art, or art that meets your standards, if you have those either commission someone or do art trades with people who have the art style you want, it's honestly sad to see some artists themselves act entitled on art as the same "can you draw me" people we usually make fun of
ive never been in a artfight because im always too nervous about if itll be overwhelming. i would like to think im pretty exepierenced. my boyfriend however, hes definetly a beginner and its nice seeing what he does and trying to give tips when he asks. he also jumped right into art fight. hes having a good time, and even got some drawings back. i really hope this drama doesnt end up reaching him on a personal level, that would be awful
This is why I haven't been too interested in using artfight. I don't think my art is very good and I'm worried they'd think I'm lazy or trolling
it's sad really
Unfortunately, I have a similar mindset. Not only am I insecure bout my art, but also the fact that I don't like drawing digitally (bad at it).
Yep same @@UrFriendlyOpossum
I only would try for characters that I enjoy a lot
I’ve been doing artfight for 5 years now. I initially joined because my partner thought it would be a fun thing for me to do because I liked drawing. Ofc when I started I was really new to art and I had an amazing really high quality artist attack me and words cannot describe how happy I was, I was over the moon and I attacked them back, obviously not as good because I was just starting and they seemed really happy about it aswell and it made me feel so welcomed.
Of course I do artfight for the drawing but it’s also just nice to see people take an interest in your ocs and I feel like this year due to the extensive media coverage, it just doesn’t feel the same. Artfight used to feel like this cute tight community where we could exchange drawings of ocs and have a fun time. Now it just feels too big and toxic and people exclusively attacking bigger artists like I think I only got 2 attacks that weren’t my irl friends. Usual is like 5-6 and I’m not a big artist.
It just doesn’t feel the same.
It sucks that people are like that. This year I was attacked by a beginner, and their drawing was absolutely amazing, and it was so creative, They made my character wear a suit, and they were holding a little bouquet of flowers, and my character had the cutest little smile, I loved it! And the person who made me the drawing was so sweet too! People who hate on beginner artists are real poopy heads.
My first year but I joined to hone my art skills! I get so excited when a beginner artist or a unique style attack me and I attack at random including attacking beginners! I can’t imagine how exciting it feels to new artists to have their OCs drawn, so to me it doesn’t matter if it’s not my favourite art style or quality! They deserve the love! ❤
yeah I joined this year and I haven't seen anything bad or whatever I do go on tiktok occasionally but I never seen people complaining abt the art they get..
but genuinely beginner artists are literally the sweetest people ever, like why people gotta be such asshats istg
ALSO!, YOUR ARTSTYLE IS REALLY FUNKY LOOKING I LOVE IT !,!!
It's so upsetting to see this. Ive been taking part in art fight for five years (since i was 16) and ive had nothing but good experiences and I look forward to july because of this event. So to hear that people are being hostile and nasty to young artists just because they don't like there art is devastating because those young artists will most likely not want to come back to art fight next year and may give up on art all together.
Please be mindful of the things you say, you have no idea the effect it could have on the person you're saying it to.
I’ve been participating in ArtFight for three years now, and something I’ve always noticed is that a lot of people attack popular artists from social media in hopes of their favorite artists revenging them back. The thing is that some of the artists get over 100 attacks every year! It’s fine if you want to give your favorite social media artists a drawing as a gift, (it’s something I’ve done a few times,) but their most likely not going to revenge you if their getting a ton of other attacks. I just feel like there’s so many amazing artists on ArtFight that don’t have many attacks and are very underrated. It’s why I mostly attack people who are new to the game or don’t have any defenses. Not sure if anyone else feels this way, but I thought I’d put it out there. Hope everyone has a great rest of ArtFight!
This is the second year I am doing art fight, and honestly I love it when beginner artists attack me and I attack them. Like you said we all start somewhere and saying you only want high quality art for free is just... gives the ick vibes. It is to have fun try out different designs you normally dont do. Or even test out difference styles. Not to gatekeep art.
I really wanted to join art fight this year again cause I enjoyed the first time. However, I didn't end up participating due to the fact that I'm primarily a traditional artist. I also used to put in my bio I'm shy so I won't comment, but I love any art.
Traditional artists are 100% allowed on Artfight. While digital art is more common, there are a TON of traditional artists on artfight! I myself have done traditional art attacks, water color, scratchart, pen art, and pencil sketches. There is even an option for 'crafting' where people make sculptures, plushies, crochet and even food art. If you still want to join, it goes till the end of July and you can totally still participate. Even if its just to enjoy viewing others art, or making just 1 attack.
I ADORE traditional art. I wish more people would do it! All strokes for different folks, after all. All art media is welcome!
I only do traditional art and it hasnt affected my experience!
I do tend to feel out of place sometimes due to the vast majority of stuff i see being digital. But your art isnt any less good for being on a piece of paper
I don‘t mind „Massattacks“ but I heard from multiple people online that their preferences were straight up ignored this year, more often that in other years. I even checked out their profiles out of curiousity, it was written there so clearly…
People who are mad about the artstyle are really strange to me, like this whole event is about making gifts, not about getting them
This! I do artfight to GIVE gifts not to receive them 😅 Ofc I love getting attacked or revenged, but I mostly just want to spread joy via drawing other characters and it’s FUN to draw other characters 😊
Second year of art fight! I personally haven’t seen anything besides people ignoring me (I give them the benefit of the doubt unless I see them post 20 attacks)
ALSO I find it insane people hate mass attacks, I genuinely really love whenever I’m apart of one like they always end up super cool and any art I get makes me so unbelievably happy.
It also makes me so sad beginner artists are being shit on once more, we were all there, imagine if at that point in your art journey people shamed and bullied you like wtf happened to bring a respectful human being. I myself am not amazing at art but I don’t consider myself a beginner, makes me sad we can’t just create what makes us happy, at the end of the day it’s a hobby for most of us and art fight is simply a fun event
If it makes you feel a little better, sometimes I put off responding to an art for a bit because I'm trying to find the right words to express the enthusiasm I feel for a certain attack. Like, a simple "thank you" is bare minimum, but the piece deserves more than the bare
minimum, ya know?
Hope you're having a fun ArtFight season!! 💪💥
Big artists will not notice you. That’s the #1 thing people will not get about artfight. Big artists only attack their friends and other big artists that’s about it.
As for getting high quality art or only getting fan art… bruh it’s an art trading game. You’re kind of an ahole if you’re only there for art for you and you aren’t gonna make an effort to give art you created back.
Hell, art I got this year that I loved the most was a traditional piece from a beginner artist cause it made me think of how the character they drew would draw themselves and I love it so gd much and I’m giving them something back because they took time to draw my character!
This year was my first year here, and I didn't even know anything was going on drama wise until more than half way through the event. I'm glad I didn't stumble on any rude people, and I genuinely enjoyed Artfight so much. It was super fun, and I'm hoping I'll be able to do it next year too. I only got one attack against me (not being a revenge), but I'm fine with that. The only complication I had (which wasn't even that bad), was that I had accidentally made a character with a more chubby body type according to the owner of the OC too buff looking, and I got that sorted out immediately. The owner of the OC just asked me to take the attack down, and that it made them a bit uncomfortable. I pm'd them after removing the attack, just saying how I'm sorry that I made them uncomfortable, and that it wasn't my intent at all, to which they were very understanding and polite; not only to the reply to my pm, but throughout the entire situation.
I totally 100% agree with everything said here, and im so happy someone said it!
Im a beginner-ish artist. (Ive been drawing since i was 9 years old, but havent improved a big bunch, im not masterful what so ever) Ive always preferred my art to be a hobby not a job, but i also enjoy drawing other peoples characters moreso then my own, which makes artfight perfect for me! This year i went all out and tried new things entirely, i tried being different with my coloring, shading, and lining, i even made a piece i was super proud of which hasnt happened for me in a long time! That same piece was just snubbed, no comment or replies, straight up ignored! I didnt care if they revenged or not, but it would be nice if you could atleast be like "yo thanks" or something yknow? I look at there profile as well bc i was curious, there was 130+ "defenses" and like 20 attacks on there page. It was so bizarre to me, i have never seen anything like it bro.
It’s always the sweet things that turn sour… 😢
Because of that DANG CLOCK APP.
It's my third year doing Artfight and yeah, you shouldn't join with the expectation of getting tons of attacks or even revenges on every attack you send.
I personally like to attack people I've commissioned or who have sent me gifts throughout the year, as thanks.
I also really like attacking beginner artists, and love receiving art from them. I think a lot of the time beginners art has a lot of soul and is very expressive. In the technical sense, I'm medium skilled, but my drawings lack emotion, since when learning I prioritised having clean drawings over interesting ones. My art doesn't have as much personality as I wish it did, which I'm working on now. But beginner artists know they don't have mad technical skills, so they put their all in other aspects, like doing creative designs, working on the composition or the facial expressions.
I also see that in the animation community, beginners tend to be more ambitious than people with medium technical skill, because they know it can only further their skill and they'll be proud of it, rather than focusing on if it will fit with the rest of their art. And it usually really pays off. I see people doing awesome animations on flipaclip drawing with their finger, that I wouldn't attempt with my drawing tablet because I'm a coward.
TL:DR : There's no sense in wanting to kick out beginner artists, not only everyone starts somewhere but also their art is usually really cool in its own right
this was actually really well written, i didn't even notice that with beginner artists before :0
This is my seond year doing artfight (took a long gap between my first one and then this year) but i genuinely love attacking newer artist!!
I love how happy they get, its genuinely just so fun to hype someone up!!! And if/do attack me back or even first?? Its the best feeling, I eat that up.
I remember people ignoring my attacks when i did my first art fight, supporting younger artist and just watch them have fun? Its amazing!
The people who expect high quality art... Will just lose chance to get their characters being drawn at all. Because having high quality attacks are super rare. I saw like... max 10 artists with higher skill level like that when I browse around AF site. Most of it are beginners or in same level as me.
I also see really cure when I get my characters attacked by a beginner. Their their yet to get the skills shown in their artwork is charming and cute.
also the Big HQ with tons of rendering take a long time to make.
i maybe only do like 2 or 3 of those. and even then it has to be a character i really Vibe with to want to spend that amount of effort and materials into making it.
the rest is just. what i can do somewhat fast.
@@ghoulchan7525 same If I have actually an idea with the character. I do scenes with more shading than usual
At times like this I feel so lucky to be a relatively small creator, so I get to stay with a tiny group of closer dudes just to have artsy fun together and avoid all of the drama 🤧
I hope more people will grow up to enjoy this event for the process of creating and sharing cool art throughout the community! All art is great ✨
I think this also brings the discussion: what is an ""experienced"" or ""beginner"" artstyle anyway? If it's based on rendering, the cartoony styles never evolve? We evolve different parts of our art at different times, i feel like i'm way better at poses and character design now but i still need to improve my shading and background, i haven't done a full piece in a long long time. I can't say i participated in any artfight, but thinking about any artist, no matter what skill, drawing one of my characters they don't know shit about, for free? That's awesome!! Like, your OC, out of all the others ones there, just got fanart, be grateful! Someone thought their design, or backstory or just their concept was cool enough to draw.
Just seems like people are a bit ungrateful about the art they're receiving. Someone put their time to draw your little guy. No matter what "level" of skill they have, they did their best and did it as a gift. Sorry for the rant, i just feel like this kind of stuff pushes people away from participating, like i wanted to participate but didn't bc i was kinda scared of what people would think of my art and stuff, and now this... Hope next year is better though!
AF allows me to practice my animation, that's what I use it for - well that and having fun drawing interesting designs :)
I didn't even know you could post animations on artfight 😮
I've been participating in Artfight since 2018. I love artfight, especially as a very introverted person who has a hard time making friends. There is a certain joy in drawing other people's characters that I adore, but I am often far too shy to ask if random people feel comfortable with fanart.
However, Artfight became a great excuse. I did not need to talk to people, I could just draw their characters! And I knew they would appreciate. I started with about seven attacks every season or so, yet last Artfight I did 36, and this Artfight I am trying to make even more. Is it out of competition? No, I just like drawing, and I enjoy seeing the people get all giddy and excited because they got art. (I have to admit, though, most of these are revenges - people are very active this year!!!)
I like targeting beginner artists especially. I am by no means a pro, but I remember my times when I was a beginner at art, and I got a piece from someone with much better grasp on art concepts than me. I was thrilled, so now I usually try to draw beginner artists' ocs as best as I can, to bring them the same joy that I was brought before (and I love seeing them revenge my drawings!).
I think I have only had one small problem during artfight because someone drew my fursona wrong twice (made them slim, gave them breasts and didn't include their fur markings for some reason?). However, I decided not to be rude - I just thanked them for their drawings, and then added to my permissions to not draw them with breasts/slimmed down, that's all!
I have not seen people being rude - probably because I do not check the social media hashtags, or discord, or just because I have been lucky - but I have seen the trend of making mass attacks, and I have to say, that is incredible!! My characters have been featured in several this year, and I find them astonishing (because I am not good at composition). I really like seeing people's creativity with such big drawings.
I hope artfight brings joy to the people that participate, and does not become a serious competition that just becomes stressful in the end. Beginners or not, everyone deserves to have a good time, experiment with their style, and enjoy drawing and getting art from different people :>
I started art fight in 2021 and looking back at my art from them pains me but also I see how much better I’ve gotten so it’s so annoying to learn that people on there are just hating on beginners
Wow, this put into perspective that I get attacked a lot. But It's probably because I always try to attack back? I always try to return equal or more when getting revenge, doesn't matter the skill level. If a beginner artist drew a full body drawing with shading, I'm returning back a full body drawing with shading! My favorite thing about art fight is I can experiment and it encourages me to draw, it's super duper fun.
People being mean to others for this is really dumb, I mean, that's ruining the whole spirit of the game?! If you want a certain type of art so bad go commission someone.
5th year of ArtFight and I guess I am lucky I haven't seen much drama and just stayed in my line, but it's sad that something like this happens
I didn’t encounter drama personally, but I have been aware of it. It’s frustrating to see people tear down beginners in a game where the point is GIVING! Like exchanging free art.
I’m always grateful for the attacks I get. I love seeing my characters drawn by other people! The people who aren’t must either be entitled or don’t understand how Artfight is supposed to work.
(Also, what’s your Artfight? Your art style is so cool!)
It's my first time participating in artfight. I've attacked a few people but didn't get attacked at all (only once by my friend). I don't expect anything back so I just have good time and enjoy drawing others people characters and I don't care if the person is popular or not. I'm doing it for myself. Honestly it helped me so much to finally develop my artstyle that my only regret is that I haven't done it earlier!
With that being said I hope yall have as much fun with it as me and just do it for yourself
I didnt even know about any of this stuff, I was originally gonna not participate so I could draw better next year, but I am glad I went in as 8 attacks later, I feel like I have improved quite a bit and its been really fun! I went in expecting zero attacks but within the first week I had around 3 attacks including one mass attack which blew me away! It makes me happy to see someone draw my characters no matter the quality or skill
i love giving and recieving low quality art (memes, shit posts, ect)
AND I GOT A PIECE OF ART OF MY DEMON SLAYER OC IN THE ARTISTS ATTEMPT OF THE DEMON SLAYER ART STYLE ☹️☹️‼️‼️‼️ IT MAKES ME SO HAPPY AND THE ARTIST SAID THEY HAD FUN EXPERIMENTING YIPPEEE
Can't can understand how people are picky, attack me with low effort IM HAPPY MY OCS GOT ART IN GENERALLLL. ArtFight attacks are fr just my Christmas in July gifts
I've been doing Art Fight for 7 years. If it weren't for Art Fight I wouldn't have been able to improve the way I have! You bet my first years I was posting some rough attacks, but now I have a polished style! We should encourage artists of all skills and styles to participate. ❤
I've considered art fight for a while, but the thing is that im mainly a traditional artist, so ive woried that people wouldnt want my attacks due to me not being a digital artist. O_o
People love traditional art! Go for it!
@@DoughBoy_Silly thx guess I'll try next year
I’ve gotten a few traditional attack from people and I LOVE THEM!!! traditional attacks are more common than u may think! You should try it!! :D
My favourites are the tradis actually!!
It kind of surprises me that people are so harsh to what they consider to be beginner artists and I think its really discouraging for those artists to get trampled like that. I use artfight as a way to try to draw as many characters as possible and to experiment with new things and it doesn't really bother me if I only get a comment on the attack lol BUT I do like to create revenges for people to show my appreciation for an attack, no matter the 'quality' of the art, I think its just nice to send people art of their ocs :]
Artfight really is an art FIGHT
I’m actually proud of myself. I actually managed to submit an attack (ff on a friend in a discord server I’m in). Almost finished with another.
I said I was determined to actually participate this year (and by that I mean more than just joining a team and then forget to submit ANYTHING) and while it wasn’t as much as I would have liked, it was still something! I still had fun!
Didn’t have anyone draw my OCs cause I didn’t get around to submitting any, but I know I have all year to do that. Kept agonizing over how their ref sheets should look and making it harder than it needs to be.
I feel ya, it took me from the start of the month until July 23rd to finish just one reference sheet. But I’m proud of it, and I learned a ton while makin’ it!
I’ll probably have time to send one or two attacks, I think. Not to win, but just for fun, y’know?
@@Glory2Snowstar of course! I don’t even really view it as a competition, just something to do for fun and practice art and get out of your comfort zone
I think it's a good point. I made sure to have a single OC when I worked up the nerve to join Art Fight for the first time, but because of an "It would be nice to get something back" mindset. The main goal is at least 3 attacks to get past my long-term artblock (going on 20 years now) and actually finish what I start. I'm at one-and-a-half so far. But knowing myself, if I hadn't gotten a single thing, I would have been discouraged from trying again next year.
Luckily, a friend I attacked revenged me and then mass attacked, while also giving me permission to use the clothes she drew me as a form of encouragement. But it took days to find someone else that had an OC that just clicked, because I was afraid of disappointing. I won't quit until I hit number three though.
I honestly didn't see an issue this year especially with my first art fight participating (I've known about it for a few years beforehand but didn't have the time/motivation to do it). I've been having a blast and just enjoying it as a whole with drawing ocs and not expecting anything in return.
I agree, I may not entirely like someone's art style, but I try my best to give them back art when I can. Because I know how it can hurt to feel left out of something when you put your heart into it.
I got my friend to join artfight and shes only gotten 2 attacks, even though her art is so much better than mine.
Sad.
Although I guess I get more attacks just because I do more attacks
My first year of art fight was last year and it blows my mind how people can get mad at this- it just doesn't make sense to me to abuse a system at all. It's made for FUN not for profit of any sort
This is my first ever art fight and when I first joined the sight I thought the whole thing of art fight was teams vs each other competitively. I play splatoon, so I think it was cause I have that splatoon splatfest mindset.
I also felt really disappointed when I didn’t get attacked in the first week
But watching these videos, making art attacks and also recently getting some attacks made my perspective of this event change. It’s fun to draw people’s characters and the happiness I feel when I see my characters being drawn is outstanding.
I just wish people would be more kinder to others, whether it’s about art attacks or just joining and having that expectation.
Sorry for my long rant ^^’ Great video!
Now thats what I call some character development!
I remember joining art fight last year and this person kind of annoyed me for asking me to fix one little outline piece, that it turned out they wanted everything adjusted where the point I should have just block them instead of doing it, like I dont mind small or big mistakes on my oc as it's free art, they took time on it, and it's a one of a kind art piece as well
I've been on Art Fight for 7 years now, and I can say that there has always been "pixelated" Mass attacks, it's just a part of Art Fight and just like you said, it's always possible to just let people know that you don't want your characters included in those kind of attacks!
From my view, the drama only really exists if you interact with it, the only time someone disregarded my permissions and drew something really tasteless of my character, I just notified an admin and the attack was gone within a day (that was in 2018).
However the hostility towards beginner artists is just??? so stupid? I personally cherish every attack I get, revenge them and make sure to leave nice comments, no matter the skill level, I really hope that someday those people will realize their mistakes and start being gentler
Majority of the people I fought against didn’t fight anybody back, it was really upsetting bcs I was hoping I’d be able to do a lot of art for people and receive art as well
The point of artfight is to go outside of your comfort zone and hone your own skills. Also to give without expecting things in return. That being said, I'm sure that feeling of rejection is rough. Just remember, it's nothing personal against you! :) there are so many reasons why someone might not attack back. Even if it's because they don't find your character appealing to draw (imho the worst case scenario reason), then, that's okay too. And it's nothing against you. Everyone has things they like to draw more than others. And everyone in artfight has their reasons for being there. (Tho if they're in it purely to get free art of their OCs, they're probably in it for the wrong reasons lol)
This stuff has always existed on art fight. Maybe it's just me but I feel like people are looking back on art fight with rose tinted glasses, when really it's not "way more prevalent" or anything.
I feel this as well as someone who's been doing artfight since 2017, and absolutely no shade to OP but them saying they've only been doing artfight for two years sort of makes me feel that they have simply /heard/ that artfight is going downhill as opposed to having actually witnessed such a thing happen. By their own metric they were not around during it's glory days. EDIT: ok they said three years mb
I've been on Artfight since the Furrypaws days
People were complaining when the game left Furrypaws because the deviantartists would drag the art strandards down.
Its been going on since the literal beginning of art fight
I get a bit demoralised with artfight because i haven’t had any attacks at all this year,, I love to draw things for other people and i always do some of my coolest stuff when i do artfight but… every now and then it’d be cool to get something back hh
What's your user?
I always thought AF was the best place for any type of skill level, but idrk anymore.
i love video essays on artfight
amen axy2799
Was my first year this time around, as I had never heard of Artfight before. But, as a hobbyist artist whose done digital for over a decade now, and have felt the grind of social media...I'm really in the era of, "All art made by actual folks, no matter how experienced or no, is good art." I'm not the most technically skilled, but I made it a goal to hit a number of different art styles and skill levels (although many oc's ended up starting with the letter V, weirdly.) Because I would rather spread a bit of serotonin than add another match to the burning cesspit that is the internet and life in general.