@@juliogonzo2718Well it's not 100% confirmed that it was a missile (it is highly likely though it was a missle), but that small chance that it wasn't a missle and was a bird strike or something else. It would look bad on the media, as they accused Russia of shooting down the plane without 100% evidence.
The plane was shot down. There are tons of pictures online already, showing the fuesalage and tail section punctured by shrapnels created by missiles explosion. The same sort of damages were shown on the MH17 crash.
Only in Western media do I hear discussions about "birds." Some anti-Russian media even claim it was "demonstrative repression." Russian and Kazakh authorities have only stated that the plane's transponder was turned off when it entered Russian airspace, making it unidentified on radar. Beyond that, they urge everyone to wait for the investigation results. If you don't trust Russia, then trust Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan.
Naah... there is a 14-minute long video footage showing how the plane went down. No missile involved in this crash.😅😅😅😅😅Stop pushing conspiracy theories, please. 😅😅😅
@@Diaghol 14 mins before it crashed? that doesn't show what caused damage to the plane tho. Russia has confirmed the aircraft was diverted for visibility reasons, and that the area was under drone attacks by ukraine. So easily could have been exploding shrapnel from Russian defence missile system.
● visible shrapnel holes ● survivors recalling explosion sounds coming from the outside ● passenger videos taken inside the plane showing damaged panels and blood on the floor ● Russian AD systems trying to intercept Ukrainian drones above Grozny Birds, for sure... 😅
Additions: ● The plane's transponder was turned off when it entered Russian airspace. This was stated by a Kazakh air serviceman during the briefing and is also visible on Flightradar. For Russian AD, the plane appeared identical to a Ukrainian drone without a transponder, which was attacking Grozny at the same time. ● The bird strike occurred after the missile impact, which disrupted communication. This is evident from the black box decryption.
Tail section was riddled with incoming shrapnel holes. 100% was shot down. There are clear pictures all over the internet already. If it was something onboard that exploded, all the metal around the holes would be going outward, not inward.
@@Jay-kk3dvThe holes in the tail section are more in correspondence with shrapnel from a missile than from an exploding engine. Anyway, let's wait for the conclusions of the air crash investigation in a few weeks time.
@@7000fps the broken fins, which are very strong, but if broken like in the event of a catastrophic engine failure they can come out the back of the engine and the extremely strong pieces of fin metal will pierce through the rear parts of the airplane
People sit on the couch on Christmas day with a belly full of turkey. CNN shows the story. They become instant crash investigator but couldn't find Kazakhstan without Google Earth.
@@dantepearl4186 to be honest Kazakhstan is as far away from US as possible and it does not matter how far the country is when you have multiple videos of the damaged debris. People are allowed to have opinions even if their bellies are full of avian meat.
The thing is, The plane was heading to Chechnya, but has crossed the Caspian Sea and has requested entry into Kazakh airspace 30 minutes prior to crash. At the same time, in Chechnya the alarms were going off because of the Ukrainian drones in the area. I think that the plane was first diverted due to both bad weather and the UAVs, heading to the opposite side, the plane was most likely struck by the Russian air defence systems in or around Chechnya, that might have thought that it was a UAV. The crew itself may have not realised that it was anti air system, assuming bird flocks have caused it
Yes, you're right. As stated at the briefing in Kazakhstan and visible on Flightradar, the plane turned off its transponder when entering Russian airspace, making it indistinguishable from Ukrainian drones. The question is, why did they turn off the transponder? This can only be done manually by the pilots.
Russian 'air defense' shot it down. Gear down, flaps not deployed. They'd lost hydrolics. Flight Radar24 shows oscillating altitude. The plane was uncontrollable except for manipulating the thrust. Puncturing shrapnel holes all over the thing from a missile. Skin is bent inwards, not outwards as you'd expect from some form of internal explosion and fragmentation. Pilots did an awesome job considering what they had to work with.
@@ranchgreen2497 A minority of them were Russian, but Putin has been responsible for the deaths of more Russian citizens than anyone since Stalin. So whether an accidental shoot-down like with the F-18 a few days ago, or someone onboard Putin didn't like as with the Prigozhin targeting, being Russian doesn't buy you any safety.
I hope there is an international investigation to get to the bottom of this. So sad for the victims. The pilots did their best and saved a number of people
If it wasn't for the post crash video, Russia might do the same as Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 and deny access while it attempted to destroy remaining parts.
We clearly not need to talk about a bird strike in this case. The main question is: Was it an accidental shot-down by Russian Air Defense or was it the result of some sort of technical failure? It wouldn´t be the first accidental shot-down of a civil aircraft. So openly said I´m missing this question to be asked to the expert. My condolences to the families and friends of the Deceased. May the survivors recover fully and quickly.
As stated at the briefing in Kazakhstan and visible on Flightradar, the plane turned off its transponder when entering Russian airspace, making it indistinguishable from Ukrainian drones.
@@7DaysChanel_VandenReich The squawk code was seen so the transponder must have been on. Perhaps the ru gps and other jamming blocked it locally if it actually wasn't showing all the time.
@@jillfeatherman5523 Here is the chronology of the flight: The plane flew with its transponder working over Azerbaijan and most of Dagestan. The signal disappeared only near the Makhachkala airport (northern Dagestan), not in Chechnya. Without a signal, the plane reached Grozny, then crossed two more Russian regions to the alternate airport in Ardon. There, the transponder transmitted for three minutes while the plane circled the city. Afterward, the plane flew back through the same four Russian regions, over the Caspian Sea, part of Kazakh airspace, and only then did the signal reappear. Why it’s clearly not Russia jamming the signal: 1. Only this plane stopped transmitting its transponder signal. It was silent over four Russian regions, an area larger than Georgia, Armenia, or Azerbaijan, and there was also no signal over Kazakhstan. It’s clearly not Russia jamming the signal in Kazakh airspace. 2. If a signal is jammed, it affects all planes in the area, not just a single one. 3. The transponder sends data in all directions, so anyone can receive it. If there are no ground receivers, other planes act as intermediaries. Reminder: other planes in the area did not lose their signal and operated normally, but didn’t relay the signal from the plane to other receivers. This is why planes over oceans, where there are no radars, are still visible. Theories: 1. Targeted jamming is unrealistic. To do this, a massive radio antenna would need to track the plane’s exact location over four Russian regions, adjusting for its high altitude and speed, without affecting other planes. This idea is especially absurd over populated cities. 2. Common jamming wasn’t the case. If it were, all planes would have lost their transponder signals. However, only this plane was without a transponder signal. 3. The transponder might have been turned off by the pilots. This is the most common case. Pilots often turn off the transponder when cutting corners and flying off-route. This could be such a case; the area is mountainous, and the plane may have deviated from its assigned route, turned off the transponder, and forgot to turn it back on. 4. Malfunction or weather conditions. According to the black box decryption, there was heavy fog at the time. This same fog was why the plane didn’t land at the alternate airport. Heavy fog can interfere with the transponder’s frequency, but typically only at lower altitudes. However, if this were the case, all planes in the area would lose signal. Also, the signal was absent even over Kazakhstan, making weather interference less likely.
Cabin pressure was lost at altitude. Doesn't happen due to birdstrikes. It was due for Chechnya and ended up i Kazakhstan across the Caspian. Up close pics of the fuselage looks like it was peppered with shrapnel. More in line with AA missiles.
1. The plane was accidentally shot down because, for some reason, it had turned off its transponder. Russian air defense systems could not distinguish it from Ukrainian drones, which were attacking Grozny at the same time. 2. Azerbaijan is an ally of Russia and part of the same alliance. While it may appear "neutral" in politics, in social media, Azerbaijanis massively support Russia because Ukraine supports Armenia, Azerbaijan's historical rival.
@@7DaysChanel_VandenReich Ukraine literally supports Azerbaijan lol. Btw latest news from Azerbaijani government says that the plane was shot down by russian pantsir missiles, so no they will pay for this.
Airliners shot down by Russia/USSR ------------- 1978: Korean Air Lines Flight 902 1981: Ram attack on TAR Canadair CL-44 1983: Korean Air Lines Flight 007 2014: Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 2024: Waiting on a full investigation
Air defense, took this plane down, no smoke from engine to indicate engine failure before it hit the ground. (bird strike) who f the is paying you people to say such absurdities?
You can see thousands of Schrapnel Holes in the tail. They are all pointing inwards! The tail was not functional, this is why the plane could not turn into runway. It was shot down by a drone!
Definitely does not look like it was shot down - there is video of the complete plane flying and it went down completely whole. No smoke or vapor trails of missile attack etc. No other planes in the sky - Possibility plane had some type of mechanical of electrical failure
Apparently the pilots declared an emergency citing loss of hydraulic flight controls. This plane does not have manual backup so the only recourse that remained was for the pilots to maneuver the plane with engine power. While wheels are also controlled hydraulically they will drop down into landing position by manually releasing a latch. It is difficult to see how a bird strike could lead to a rupture of hydraulic lines. Perhaps, the failure was in the electronics that controlled the hydraulics.
I watched the long video where the plane was flying in the sky for more than a minute circling to land. The pilot was trying to keep it straight and finally tried to reduce the speed while landing but could not slow it down and could not keep it straight .. the landing gear was down for a minute as well. .. looks like mechanical problem.
This crash is like a combo of the Sioux City crash and the Crash where a micro burst from a storm downed a commercial jet. In the Micro-burst the tail section broke off after hitting a silo and only those people survived. One guy literally stumbled out of the tail and firefighters thought he was a gawker, not a crash survivor. He was taken to a hospital, released, and (during 80’s) he was in such a mental state he hailed a taxi and went to the ex-wife’s house. She opened her door and he just fell into her arms crying his eyes out. Wife had not heard of the crash, was completely confused why he was there….and why he still reeked of aviation fuel. Apparently his brush with death made him realize he was at fault in their relationship……..and they ended up getting remarried. I saw the pictures of the tail. I am praying it was not a missile strike….but it’s not 1-2 holes. If it’s a missile the pilots are not at fault for what happened 😢. Heck, they did the best they could if something else went wrong. May they RIP.
The expert just said a shocking information, contradicting to what the host said. And the latter has 0 reaction, doesn't ask a followup and just moves onto another question?? Is the host AI ?
I am from Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 The plane flew wherever the control center directed it. There are many versions, either birds hit the plane or there was a malfunction in the plane. Because as you can see from the video, if there was a bird strike, the engine would have caught fire when it was at altitude, and the oxygen tank explosion doesn't look realistic because it's in the cabin. But the pilot tried to adjust the balance by jumping up and down, and he did the trick,he's a hero, the plane just didn't listen. Then there are footage of a passenger inside the plane. There are holes in the turret at the back of the plane, maybe the plane was shot down from the ground with some kind of weapon, or birds can't even make holes, holes. After the black box, we'll know what caused the incident.
This was not a Bird strike, Santa Claus and his Slay and all of his Reindeer impacted the jet engine while flying in thick clouds. Santa and the Reindeer did not make it. Slay parts and fan blades from the Engine damaged the jets wings and tail causing the jet to impact the ground. They all will be missed.
Looks like hydraulics were gone, plane seemed to be in a phugoid cycle before the crash, just like the Sioux City , Japanese airline crashes.. all the hydraulic lines converge in the rear of the plane… according to the documentaries I’ve seen
The third system is electrically driven. A couple of YT vids mention it can provide minimal flight surface control. My guess the shrapnel also took out electrical control lines to flight surface actuators.
Slightly worrying that a former NTSB director is thinking "outboard engine failure" after looking at the evidence...this guy is bringing the NTSB into disrepute.
I am from Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 The Azerbaijan Airlines the Type Aircraft was crashed Embraer E190 Brasilia Manufacture. There were 65 people on the plane, citizens of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Russia, 32 people survived, 10 people are in serious condition. God bless them all 😔🙏
I've been thinking about the plane crash of our airline on the Baku-Grozny flight. I've been crying all day. It hurts so much, especially when I think about how the crew was fighting to find a place to land. Could Russia really not find a single airport to safely land our plane within an hour?
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I'm sorry, but no way in hell was that a bird strike. That plane was hit by a missile based on shrapnel holes all over the tail
Yup. Wonder why the media is hiding that?
Looks like it. Lots of shrapnel holes on the fuselage.
@@juliogonzo2718 I'd be interested in hearing the CVR and what the crew was thinking
@@juliogonzo2718Well it's not 100% confirmed that it was a missile (it is highly likely though it was a missle), but that small chance that it wasn't a missle and was a bird strike or something else. It would look bad on the media, as they accused Russia of shooting down the plane without 100% evidence.
Oh? And you and what qualifications determined that exactly?
The plane was shot down. There are tons of pictures online already, showing the fuesalage and tail section punctured by shrapnels created by missiles explosion. The same sort of damages were shown on the MH17 crash.
SO YOU KNOW THAT FROM THE VIDEO HUH 🤔😏😅😂
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@@OSnoopySnoop1 Well he is right, and your comment is really dumb to read.
Yes, Russia shot down this plane
Why are people, republicans, and Trump still defending this terrorist state
Nobody believes it was a bird strike
Only in Western media do I hear discussions about "birds." Some anti-Russian media even claim it was "demonstrative repression."
Russian and Kazakh authorities have only stated that the plane's transponder was turned off when it entered Russian airspace, making it unidentified on radar. Beyond that, they urge everyone to wait for the investigation results.
If you don't trust Russia, then trust Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan.
Don't think there are many birds flying that high.
The russian people is gonna believe it.
Even the guy who is commenting is saying it’s BS.
It's ZELENSKI
That plane was attacked, that is missile shrapnel making those holes.
Naah... there is a 14-minute long video footage showing how the plane went down.
No missile involved in this crash.😅😅😅😅😅Stop pushing conspiracy theories, please. 😅😅😅
@@Diagholthe plane was not destroyed by air defence, just damaged, which made flying difficult.
@@Diaghol 14 mins before it crashed? that doesn't show what caused damage to the plane tho. Russia has confirmed the aircraft was diverted for visibility reasons, and that the area was under drone attacks by ukraine. So easily could have been exploding shrapnel from Russian defence missile system.
It has Putin written all over it. Remember, he killed 20 just to get to Prigozhin.
If we’re making stuff up without any research, then I heard Charlie sheen was the pilot and got too turnt up resulting in that crash.
İ am from Azerbaijan. We are still in shock and mourning the loss of life. Ten people were from my hometown. May they all rest in peace
I hope you are free from your hereditary dictatorship soon! 🙏🏻
@xiaoka thank you
@@sevdamustafazad3564 Would your goverment gonna lie about true air shooters?
@@sevdamustafazad3564 Unfortunately, aliev collaborates with putler, but I didn’t see any outrageous comments Azerbaijanis against him…
My condolences. 💔🙏🏽
Airplane is full of “bullet holes” at the tail… Missile!
As the expert said those holes are from the engine failure, please stop spreading misinformation
@@Jay-kk3dvUtter nonsense
You are ready from recruitment comrade.@@Jay-kk3dv
@@Jay-kk3dv Putin’s troll misinformation
@@Jay-kk3dvDefinitely shrapnel damage in the tail section that no engine explosion could do. No question.
● visible shrapnel holes
● survivors recalling explosion sounds coming from the outside
● passenger videos taken inside the plane showing damaged panels and blood on the floor
● Russian AD systems trying to intercept Ukrainian drones above Grozny
Birds, for sure... 😅
Putin immediately starts his Media show
@Sem-v7z trolls and bots are already out on the mission
@@Sem-v7zthen why are they lying-on msm-if it’s Russ? Why aren’t they telling us what happened?
@@NomiVouwhen do they ever tell us what really happened?
Additions:
● The plane's transponder was turned off when it entered Russian airspace. This was stated by a Kazakh air serviceman during the briefing and is also visible on Flightradar. For Russian AD, the plane appeared identical to a Ukrainian drone without a transponder, which was attacking Grozny at the same time.
● The bird strike occurred after the missile impact, which disrupted communication. This is evident from the black box decryption.
Russia has shot down another passenger plane.
Are you kidding?
@@shischkebab9827It’s full of shrapnel holes. It looks like something punched a bunch of holes in it. Birds won’t do that.
@@shischkebab9827 someone did, either ukraine drones or russia
@shischkebab9827
It's obvious it was shot down by a missile. So who did it?
Ukraine?
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@@Infiniti_Ricocould be..🤷🏻♀️
Tail section was riddled with incoming shrapnel holes. 100% was shot down. There are clear pictures all over the internet already. If it was something onboard that exploded, all the metal around the holes would be going outward, not inward.
As the expert said the holes are from engine failure. Stop spreading misinformation
@@Jay-kk3dvThe holes in the tail section are more in correspondence with shrapnel from a missile than from an exploding engine. Anyway, let's wait for the conclusions of the air crash investigation in a few weeks time.
@@Jay-kk3dv NOPE , no engines at the tail.
@@7000fps the broken fins, which are very strong, but if broken like in the event of a catastrophic engine failure they can come out the back of the engine and the extremely strong pieces of fin metal will pierce through the rear parts of the airplane
@@Jay-kk3dvJust stop. There are pictures all over the place showing the shrapnel holes that all curve inwards and not outwards.
Not an accident Grozny was firing anti dron missiles and they were hit.
Hello how are you?
Condolences and prayers from America
Umm. Not all Americans so don't say from America. Cause I don't care.
Stop acting like you care go care about your guns and other things
@@itsyaboyjay9045those two things aren’t related. In any way.
@ why don’t you go call the cops on someone because that’s in you’re dna 🧬
It was shot down over Russia and Crash landed in Aktau Kazahstan
there were shrapnel holes in the aft section. clearly identifiable, from other videos
they mentioned that in the video.
People sit on the couch on Christmas day with a belly full of turkey. CNN shows the story. They become instant crash investigator but couldn't find Kazakhstan without Google Earth.
@@dantepearl4186 to be honest Kazakhstan is as far away from US as possible and it does not matter how far the country is when you have multiple videos of the damaged debris. People are allowed to have opinions even if their bellies are full of avian meat.
Condolences from us all here in Rochester NY USA
Condolences from Brazil 🇧🇷 🙏
🥱 ага 🥱
Lower is a ruZZian bot with 3 months registration.
🙏 thank you from Azerbaijan
Dozens of people survived though, some even walked away... that's one hell of a plane, for sure
The thing is, The plane was heading to Chechnya, but has crossed the Caspian Sea and has requested entry into Kazakh airspace 30 minutes prior to crash. At the same time, in Chechnya the alarms were going off because of the Ukrainian drones in the area. I think that the plane was first diverted due to both bad weather and the UAVs, heading to the opposite side, the plane was most likely struck by the Russian air defence systems in or around Chechnya, that might have thought that it was a UAV. The crew itself may have not realised that it was anti air system, assuming bird flocks have caused it
Yes, you're right. As stated at the briefing in Kazakhstan and visible on Flightradar, the plane turned off its transponder when entering Russian airspace, making it indistinguishable from Ukrainian drones.
The question is, why did they turn off the transponder? This can only be done manually by the pilots.
Accident my ass, look at the damage!
Watch the footage of the actual crash
@@UnlicensedOkie Can you say 'Buk'!
@@UnlicensedOkieHE THINKS HE ALREADY SOLVED THE CASE 😂😅😂😂😅
@@UnlicensedOkieMissile strike, takes out elevator hydraulics, makes sense to me
It was shot down over Russia by Ukraine and Crash landed in Aktau Kazahstan
Russian 'air defense' shot it down. Gear down, flaps not deployed. They'd lost hydrolics. Flight Radar24 shows oscillating altitude. The plane was uncontrollable except for manipulating the thrust. Puncturing shrapnel holes all over the thing from a missile. Skin is bent inwards, not outwards as you'd expect from some form of internal explosion and fragmentation. Pilots did an awesome job considering what they had to work with.
Ukraine did it
Too many people took the tinfoil meant for Christmas leftovers and made hats
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@@ck4067 in what world is Ukraine anywhere near 400km of the Caspian Sea for an S-300 missile launched by Ukraine to hit its target?
Russia shot the plane down
The people on the plane were Russian citizens and the plane was going to Russia
Ukraine did it probably!
@@ranchgreen2497 A minority of them were Russian, but Putin has been responsible for the deaths of more Russian citizens than anyone since Stalin. So whether an accidental shoot-down like with the F-18 a few days ago, or someone onboard Putin didn't like as with the Prigozhin targeting, being Russian doesn't buy you any safety.
@@user-ux8hg8bk3e how about your mom? you sure she wasn't involved?
@@user-ux8hg8bk3eNo it wasn’t. It left from Baku and was on its way to Grozny.
I hope there is an international investigation to get to the bottom of this. So sad for the victims. The pilots did their best and saved a number of people
If it wasn't for the post crash video, Russia might do the same as Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 and deny access while it attempted to destroy remaining parts.
the investigation is already done: russia shot down their own citizens with a SAM
@@nomenclature9373 It didn't crash in Russia dude
Condolences from Norway! truly sad
🙏 thank you from Azerbaijan
We clearly not need to talk about a bird strike in this case. The main question is: Was it an accidental shot-down by Russian Air Defense or was it the result of some sort of technical failure?
It wouldn´t be the first accidental shot-down of a civil aircraft. So openly said I´m missing this question to be asked to the expert.
My condolences to the families and friends of the Deceased. May the survivors recover fully and quickly.
As stated at the briefing in Kazakhstan and visible on Flightradar, the plane turned off its transponder when entering Russian airspace, making it indistinguishable from Ukrainian drones.
@@7DaysChanel_VandenReich The squawk code was seen so the transponder must have been on. Perhaps the ru gps and other jamming blocked it locally if it actually wasn't showing all the time.
@@7DaysChanel_VandenReichThey did not turn off their transponder. Russia was jamming signals d/t Ukraines drone attack in Grozny.
@@jillfeatherman5523 Here is the chronology of the flight:
The plane flew with its transponder working over Azerbaijan and most of Dagestan. The signal disappeared only near the Makhachkala airport (northern Dagestan), not in Chechnya. Without a signal, the plane reached Grozny, then crossed two more Russian regions to the alternate airport in Ardon. There, the transponder transmitted for three minutes while the plane circled the city. Afterward, the plane flew back through the same four Russian regions, over the Caspian Sea, part of Kazakh airspace, and only then did the signal reappear.
Why it’s clearly not Russia jamming the signal:
1. Only this plane stopped transmitting its transponder signal. It was silent over four Russian regions, an area larger than Georgia, Armenia, or Azerbaijan, and there was also no signal over Kazakhstan. It’s clearly not Russia jamming the signal in Kazakh airspace.
2. If a signal is jammed, it affects all planes in the area, not just a single one.
3. The transponder sends data in all directions, so anyone can receive it. If there are no ground receivers, other planes act as intermediaries. Reminder: other planes in the area did not lose their signal and operated normally, but didn’t relay the signal from the plane to other receivers. This is why planes over oceans, where there are no radars, are still visible.
Theories:
1. Targeted jamming is unrealistic. To do this, a massive radio antenna would need to track the plane’s exact location over four Russian regions, adjusting for its high altitude and speed, without affecting other planes. This idea is especially absurd over populated cities.
2. Common jamming wasn’t the case. If it were, all planes would have lost their transponder signals. However, only this plane was without a transponder signal.
3. The transponder might have been turned off by the pilots. This is the most common case. Pilots often turn off the transponder when cutting corners and flying off-route. This could be such a case; the area is mountainous, and the plane may have deviated from its assigned route, turned off the transponder, and forgot to turn it back on.
4. Malfunction or weather conditions. According to the black box decryption, there was heavy fog at the time. This same fog was why the plane didn’t land at the alternate airport. Heavy fog can interfere with the transponder’s frequency, but typically only at lower altitudes. However, if this were the case, all planes in the area would lose signal. Also, the signal was absent even over Kazakhstan, making weather interference less likely.
It was SHOT DOWN by Ivan
pause this video at 0:09 and you will see holes on the plane everywhere
people say russian SAM systems are trash but they work fine against civilian planes
@@NickolayKutovoyexactly
Why on earth would Russia shoot down a civilian plane, that belongs to one of its allies & long time supporters, stop spreading BS.
By Ramzan to be exact.
Cabin pressure was lost at altitude. Doesn't happen due to birdstrikes.
It was due for Chechnya and ended up i Kazakhstan across the Caspian.
Up close pics of the fuselage looks like it was peppered with shrapnel. More in line with AA missiles.
One would actually have to be inside of the plane to know cabin pressure was lost, eh?
Absolutely terrible!
Russia strikes again.
Democrats are like russia to their own country
LIterally
Ukraine did it
Yes, Russia has done this many times before
Russia attacking a nation that wont suck up to them
Do you need a map of the region or are you just too brai.nwashed at this point? 🤣🤣
1. The plane was accidentally shot down because, for some reason, it had turned off its transponder. Russian air defense systems could not distinguish it from Ukrainian drones, which were attacking Grozny at the same time.
2. Azerbaijan is an ally of Russia and part of the same alliance. While it may appear "neutral" in politics, in social media, Azerbaijanis massively support Russia because Ukraine supports Armenia, Azerbaijan's historical rival.
@@7DaysChanel_VandenReich The transponder wasn't off because the squawk code is known even by RUclipsrs already.
@@7DaysChanel_VandenReichit wasn't off actually 😅😅😅. Just watched a video with flight tracker, never off. How did you not know that.😅😅
@@7DaysChanel_VandenReich Ukraine literally supports Azerbaijan lol. Btw latest news from Azerbaijani government says that the plane was shot down by russian pantsir missiles, so no they will pay for this.
SHOT DOWN BY A MISSILE...tail is full of shrapnel holes. No engine pieces or bird strike could make such holes in the tail section.
This incident has Putin written all over it
yes! Putins passport was found at the crash site!
That's a stupid statement, that makes no sense whatsoever, you are just a bot or trying to antagonize people
Ukraine???
Gosh, ruzzian or k under Rxdt nickname was registered two days ago…
I can say what is not written in Terrences passport... that he is from Donbass, Russia 🤣🤣🤣
Fact is it was hit by a Russian missile. Many shrapnel holes all over the tail. Many many videos and pictures now are being posted on line.
More fun fact, nobody in the USA could possibly know this from half a world away -- on Christmas day
@@dantepearl4186 Fun fact- videos exist.
Airliners shot down by Russia/USSR
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1978: Korean Air Lines Flight 902
1981: Ram attack on TAR Canadair CL-44
1983: Korean Air Lines Flight 007
2014: Malaysia Airlines Flight 17
2024: Waiting on a full investigation
It was a missile strike , not an accident . Hydraulic lines were cut..
Air defense, took this plane down, no smoke from engine to indicate engine failure before it hit the ground. (bird strike) who f the is paying you people to say such absurdities?
29 survivors that will NEVER fly again
I don’t blame them 😢
They know what happened
Russia has something to do with this
Attack birds??
You can see thousands of Schrapnel Holes in the tail. They are all pointing inwards! The tail was not functional, this is why the plane could not turn into runway. It was shot down by a drone!
And here you are a specialist in downing down planes with drones, for some reason and all of a sudden...
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Maybe that’s what they’re testing here..with all the drones. They don’t want us traveling.
Took out both primary hydraulic systems. Big question will be status of the third system which is electrically operated with backup power.
Drones don't shoot down airplanes going at that speed and altitude, it was obviously ru air defence missile.
Shot Down, Not a Bird Strike. Birds do not leave Holes in the Tail Stabilizer and Ailerons. Shrapnel does.
Sad poor people 😢
The biancarlo channels shows the shrapnel holes in the wing and tail surfaces. It was shot down. Why isnt the media covering this. It's not an opinion
The plane is down due to a shot down by the air security system over Russian air space
This passenger commercial aircraft was shot down by a missile.
It was shot down. It's full of holes.
The Russian Air Force is choosing easier targets that can’t fight back?
There’s already photographs of Shrapnel holes all throughout the wings. They clearly wasn’t birds.
Definitely does not look like it was shot down - there is video of the complete plane flying and it went down completely whole. No smoke or vapor trails of missile attack etc. No other planes in the sky - Possibility plane had some type of mechanical of electrical failure
Now… who was in that plane is the big question….
Borat
Some very very unlucky civilians
'Bird Strike' is Russian for 'Anti-aircraft Missile'.
It sure appears there’s a lot of shrapnel holes on the tail section..
It was hit by missile inside the woman was get injured before the crush and 2 survivor confirmed there were 2 blast before arriving to Qrozno.
It was hit by a Russian SAM missile!!
Condolences from new Zealand
OMG!! Just horrible!! Praying for these survivors and all families and friends affected by this disaster. God bless them all 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💔
Russia did this shrapnels was found
Shot down by Russian Air Defense over Grozny
Impossible, Russia has run out of ammo and missiles months ago according to CNN.
It was hit by a Russian SAM and diverted across the sea to Kazakhstan.
Russia.
the tail has the same holes like mh17s fusselage, a shot down plane
Apparently the pilots declared an emergency citing loss of hydraulic flight controls. This plane does not have manual backup so the only recourse that remained was for the pilots to maneuver the plane with engine power. While wheels are also controlled hydraulically they will drop down into landing position by manually releasing a latch. It is difficult to see how a bird strike could lead to a rupture of hydraulic lines. Perhaps, the failure was in the electronics that controlled the hydraulics.
My full condolences to the family 🙏
Condolences to the families of the lost, RIP
I watched the long video where the plane was flying in the sky for more than a minute circling to land. The pilot was trying to keep it straight and finally tried to reduce the speed while landing but could not slow it down and could not keep it straight .. the landing gear was down for a minute as well. .. looks like mechanical problem.
It was shot down by Russian defense
Peter Goelz is no idiot, he knows that's shrapnel, he knows it wasn't a bird strike, he's just not going to be the one to say it.
That was a bird carrying a fragmentation warhead.
43% survival rate
That shit was shot down, stop with the malarkey
FINALY! CBSNews gets a REAL expert source !!! Keep this guy on retainer !!
Birds are the reason we can't have nice things. A seagull pooped on my truck windshield once, I never found it, never forgave it.
Crazy how there’s multiple holes running down the side of the plane yet there’s no scratches or other damage at all around them 🤔
This crash is like a combo of the Sioux City crash and the Crash where a micro burst from a storm downed a commercial jet.
In the Micro-burst the tail section broke off after hitting a silo and only those people survived.
One guy literally stumbled out of the tail and firefighters thought he was a gawker, not a crash survivor.
He was taken to a hospital, released, and (during 80’s) he was in such a mental state he hailed a taxi and went to the ex-wife’s house.
She opened her door and he just fell into her arms crying his eyes out.
Wife had not heard of the crash, was completely confused why he was there….and why he still reeked of aviation fuel.
Apparently his brush with death made him realize he was at fault in their relationship……..and they ended up getting remarried.
I saw the pictures of the tail.
I am praying it was not a missile strike….but it’s not 1-2 holes.
If it’s a missile the pilots are not at fault for what happened 😢.
Heck, they did the best they could if something else went wrong.
May they RIP.
The expert just said a shocking information, contradicting to what the host said. And the latter has 0 reaction, doesn't ask a followup and just moves onto another question?? Is the host AI ?
Wow CNN actually said Merry Christmas on air? 🧐
Other video shows plane riddled with bullet holes tf?!??!
Be who you seek to be: one moment, one breath, one step at a time.
What are you hiding by distorting the video?
The possible shrapnel marks in the tail is worrying
I am from Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 The plane flew wherever the control center directed it. There are many versions, either birds hit the plane or there was a malfunction in the plane. Because as you can see from the video, if there was a bird strike, the engine would have caught fire when it was at altitude, and the oxygen tank explosion doesn't look realistic because it's in the cabin. But the pilot tried to adjust the balance by jumping up and down, and he did the trick,he's a hero, the plane just didn't listen. Then there are footage of a passenger inside the plane. There are holes in the turret at the back of the plane, maybe the plane was shot down from the ground with some kind of weapon, or birds can't even make holes, holes. After the black box, we'll know what caused the incident.
This was not a Bird strike, Santa Claus and his Slay and all of his Reindeer impacted the jet engine while flying in thick clouds. Santa and the Reindeer did not make it. Slay parts and fan blades from the Engine damaged the jets wings and tail causing the jet to impact the ground. They all will be missed.
Rest in peace to the victims. Thank you dear Lord for the survivors. 🙏🏽💕
We’re gonna find out there was a prominent Putin critic on the flight
My deepest condolences from Nigerian 🇳🇬🇳🇬
The plane was shot down by Russian air defense near Grozny and then turned back to the nearest port of Aktau, Kazakhstan.
Bird species identified: Red-throated Pantsir.
Praying for families 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
main stream news is way way behind the cause of this crash. refer to other sources for information.
Looks like hydraulics were gone, plane seemed to be in a phugoid cycle before the crash, just like the Sioux City , Japanese airline crashes.. all the hydraulic lines converge in the rear of the plane… according to the documentaries I’ve seen
The third system is electrically driven. A couple of YT vids mention it can provide minimal flight surface control. My guess the shrapnel also took out electrical control lines to flight surface actuators.
The word is out along with video of shrapnel holes inside before the place crashed.
Slightly worrying that a former NTSB director is thinking "outboard engine failure" after looking at the evidence...this guy is bringing the NTSB into disrepute.
This was not a bird strike. plain and simple. Rest in peace to all those that did not make it...
I am from Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 The Azerbaijan Airlines the Type Aircraft was crashed Embraer E190 Brasilia Manufacture. There were 65 people on the plane, citizens of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Russia, 32 people survived, 10 people are in serious condition. God bless them all 😔🙏
The Evidence show the plane was shot down 🤷🏽♂️
Condolences 🙏
Smh so much is going on every where in this world.
And it’s always ruzzian or cs involved in the tragedies.
HI 👋
How are you doing
so it truh that the survival rate in a plane is higher in the back of a plane behind the wings
When a death count makes for a better headlines that a survivor count.
Thank God for the survivors. And my condolences to all the families
I didnt know a bird strike can cause shrapnel holes like shown in other videos that CNN isn’t showing
My condolences.😢
Shot down. You can see the shrapnel in the vid.
I've been thinking about the plane crash of our airline on the Baku-Grozny flight. I've been crying all day. It hurts so much, especially when I think about how the crew was fighting to find a place to land. Could Russia really not find a single airport to safely land our plane within an hour?
Be careful Republicans will say that this plane is actually the aggressor.....