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I would never have believed Benny wouldn’t even get to see Gunn’s Superman. Sending so much love to you buddy.
It's really sad that he wont even see any project from this slate. I hope his family is doing well.
I honestly love the fact that James Gunn is actually giving credit to the comic book creators. Marvel never does (As the Hawkeye show demonstration with Matt Fraction) and I love that James Gunn actually cares about the vision of creators
Part of the reason he's done with Marvel
@@TickleMyNonos no it's not.
@@Asupernaruto1 literally is bud, the lack of creative freedom and the direction marvel goes with it's creators is too constricting, he said it himself lmao. No one who deserves the credit gets it
the problem with dc is the executives the higher ups, there the ones that F up D.C all the time.
i wont be surprise when James gunn quits dc after too many disagreements n etc
Matt Fraction was a creative consultant on the show. Look after the official credits. Many comic writers were creative consultants on Marvel shows. Get your facts straight.
Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow is my favorite comic book and I never thought theyd actually try to adapt it. So excited and scared I hope its good
That story was really good, bought the trade graphic novel a few weeks ago.
You don’t even have to change anything story wise to make it an awesome movie it’ll be good
@@jakehornsby10 Yep very true
I’m hoping and fairly certain that the more traditional Superhero stories are what hasn’t been released yet, and that he’s just giving us tastes of the different storytelling techniques that we’ll be seeing from this point on.
I'm hyped for the Authority, Lanterns, and Supergirl the most but I'm hyped everything in general.
Correct
but the dc fan base said james gunn was a evil man and destroyed the dcmu and remember he fired henry cavill. just saying cause i tired to defend him then and got no backing and alot of shit. funny seeing in the comments here of people happy to see james gunn here.
@@zerodawn09 was it on this channel's comment section or somewhere else? Also why are You commenting like 2 months after the original comment?
@@Fragrantcanary this channel (another video) and others. and why now cause now is when i watched this. i had this saved and i dont watch everything when it comes out. cant you tell that im calling people out? i really hate this its a 10 or a 1. theres nothing in the middle and calm thinking isnt what anyone does anymore. when first things come out blow it up and if it turns out to be wrong defend it likes its the world or pretend it was never said and get mad when someone calls them out. we used to call people like that snowflakes but now its the norm and thats just sad to me.
As soon as I watched the video all i could think to myself was: "Ok but what does Sal think???" I have high hopes for Gunn.
but just a few months ago he was the evil man or is the dc fan base full of 10 year olds? not saying you but i tried to argue to people to wait and that was alot of crap i caught.
I really want a Nightwing movie but I also hope in Chapter 2 that it is about magic. I want a Doctor Fate movie, Zatanna, and Etrigan. God I would be so happy if we ever get Etrigan.
Hell yea
Just whole Justice League Dark, Then You can have Hawkman and Hawkgirl. THIS IS GOING TO BE FUN!
I'm going to scream if Zatanna show's up. Like ?! Justice League Dark ?!?!??! imma die
I am curious about the "overall" plans for the Authority. Basically, they seem to be planned as super-powered group who have a "one track" mind/goal and will do anything to reach it, essentially Anti-Hero-esque group. Wondering if the plan is to eventually have them face off with Superman to "correct" their mindset similar to how Superman faced off with "The Elite" in DC Animated Movie? Because if you have individuals like the Authority in the same universe as a hopeful Superman, it would mean they would have ideological clashes, and not just differences of opnion.
The Elite were actually based off of The Authority and Superman’s version of The Authority he formed recently included Manchester Black
I think this leading to kingdom come and apollo replacing shazam
The authority will give rise to a proper JLA for this universe in the sense that there prob isnt a JLA yet but OG heroes realisr that there needs to be
@@bellcurve0 If that is the case for the new "universe". then most likely there is no JSA pre-cursor to the JLA/JL
I am hopeful that DC can finally establish a proper movie-universe (in this case interconnected universe)
Gunn said in an interview that Superman: Legacy leads into the Authority. So yes, they will have ideological clashes.
Hear me out...Andy & Dan need to audition for Booster Gold so we can get them as the legit characters from their DnD campaign😂
Would have loved Tim Drake Over Damien but it's still pretty cool that we're getting a Robin on the big screen again and presumably the rest of the family is coming up to so we can finally get Nightwing
* takes Titans behind the tool shed and shoots it*
*beats it with a crowbar
If Red Robin Superboy and Wonder Girl can run the titans, that'd be amazing. Even better if Young Justice.
@@Lsd1021 * Blows it up it a bomb*
@@WhatsBiggin ok hear me out.instead of a tim drake movie? It’s a teen titans movie starring Tim as the current leader
@@brendaspence1824 The thing about Titans V3 is, they were all the leaders of their crew, and deferred to each other. That is why they have the best group friendship in comics. And that is why they'd make the best Teen Titans movie... or young justice.
"I've loved the DC characters since I was a child. They are incredibly important to me"❤️ -- I can honestly say that I believe him when he said that... These characters are important to me too.
I'm very interested to see how a fully rebooted DC universe that starts with already established characters (Batman having Damian as a Robin and All Star Super Man) is going to end up working out.
It's not fully rebooted. It's like the New 52. Most things are gone from the previous universe but there are some that will stay. James gunn said this on Twitter
Very excited to see how this goes, and what more there is that hasn’t been revealed.
Especially looking forwards to the Green Lantern project, and maybe a Justice League Dark down the line.
Im definitely getting a big Star Wars mega-narrative vibe from this and I dig it. All the different genres and mediums working together to tell one massive saga rather than a bunch of smaller isolated stories that are only tangentially connected.
I mean it's not really a vibe, it's literally what he's tryna do, just with the concrete "if you played the character in one medium, you're playing them in every medium" (which I'll be amazed if they can actually pull off, cuz that could backfire easily)
I mean, I'm super excited as a comic book fan I'm super excited....I just hope they get the casuals on board to really push this forward.
Looking at the movies from the DCAMU, Dick Grayson was introduced in Son of Batman as Nightwing and it played off of Damien and that really worked for me. Also incredibly hyped for a Swamp Thing horror movie
Hell yea
Except Tim was completely skipped which was a major problem.
The Authority is the one outta left field that has me super excited!. Are we gonna get The Carrier taking them through the Bleed????
They need to do a Static project. It doesn't really fit in "Gods and monsters" but so many people have been waiting for a live action Static project.
Milestone is doing their own movie thing I remember
@Ultimate Oreo That's a huge mistake imo. Static widely known for the television series which brought some great stories and lessons. But what made it really popular was the role he played as dc Spider-Man, and the adventures he had with batman, Superman, and the justice league.
@@Jaydog2012 Most of his episodes where self-contained. Yeah there was some cross overs but not many.
I think once you build the league in Chapter 1. You use chapter two to show the street level characters that are inspired by the league. And Static fits that
@@MrTwessel30 great idea
brenden fraiser was already in a dc project w/ doom patrol still this gods and monsters thing is gonna be awesome (i hope)
Yeah but all that is canceled so they cut him loose. But would love to see him in it again
I'm really hoping DC will keep with the personalities of the characters. I mean Superman was always showing the good, the positive in people while Batman showed the dirty underworld and, if one is even planned, Nightwing could fall somewhere in between.
My dudes were SO ready to podcast about this
RIP man. It’s such a shame.
The majority of my channel is DC related topics. As someone whose been cautious about this reboot, Gunn definitely just eased some nerves.
DC and it’s pantheon of characters means to world to me like how it does for a lot of people. This presentation made it clear that it does for Gunn as well.
The symbolism associated with DC is inherent to the the purpose of superheroes as a whole.
There entire existence is meant to serve as a narrative device to spread messages of hope, growth, optimism, and friendship first and foremost before other typical narrative themes and tropes make their way into these characters stories.
CBM in general over the decade have shunned away from these ideals, using them sparingly, but never fully embracing them.
With the excuse always being, it won’t work for live action, or, it’s to goofy and unbelievable. Or my favorite one, DC heroes are to much like Gods to make it work.
Gunn has me hopeful that finally someone will embrace what makes DC great, and give us a version of the DCU that’s worthwhile and meaningful.
Good things about making small films is that WBD didn't have to front cash for budgets
I was really hoping for Pattinson to be the main Batman, and for a complete reboot...but oh well. I'll give it a chance.
i’m super excited for this new direction under gunn. if they make a static movie down the line i’ll be the happiest fan on earth
I have suspicions he's building towards Justice League Dark in some form. He said there are other Chapter 1 titles he can't reveal yet because they give too much away. I think Swamp Things gets us Constantine and we have JL Dark by the end of Chapter 1
Been waiting for this video since I saw the reveal! I'm excited for Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow. Loved that book so much.
I am hoping Superman legacy turns out Amazing
Now we gotta do a Superwatch with the Supergirl film and force Hassan to watch lol
They may be planning to have the HBO Max shows air during 2024.
EDIT: Also, since they're bringing in Xolo Mariduena, who got to shine as Miguel in Cobra Kai, I think casting Tanner Buchanan as Booster Gold would be a good fit. The two of them had great chemistry on Cobra Kai, where Tanner played Miguel's rival Robbie Keene.
I'm really loving that this new DCU/DCCU/DCEU/Whatever the f*dge is starting in the middle of the characters' stories instead of being complete origins for everybody. I never really cared for reboots saying that no superheroes ever existed at all until THE EXACT YEAR the movies premiered.
DC UPGRADED FROM THE HOOD TO TRAILER HOMES WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
i cant wait to see live action damian wayne
This makes me hopeful. I love DC and Marvel. Having both of them pushing quality content into theaters/streaming just makes the other step its game up. They are at their best when they have the other to compete with at the top of the market.
I’m willing to give James Gunn a chance
I actually like Damian myself
After the guardians chose Guy Gardner to replace Hal Jordan, Hal Jordan choose John Stewart to replace Guy Gardner and take Hal Jordan's place if anything happens to him. Kyle Rayner ended up taking up Hal Jordan's place while John Stewart protected earth. Apparently, in the animated series, Kyle Rayner was supposed to be fighting Parallax Hal Jordan later on in the show, but the story was scrapped after the comic fans' complaints.
With that in mind... I believe it would've been awesome if Hal Jordan Parallax was a result of loosing his BFF Barry Allen rebooting the universe, especially if he was the only person that could remember the crisis event and remember his sacrifice. It would've been a great explanation for why Wally West was the only flash in the JLU series of his own universe. Could you imagine having to deal with asking for help from people that could never understand what you've had to endure?
I’m excited for the DCU. I hope we get a good universe with good stories. 🤞🏻
I hope this means I can finally get a hardcover copy of Woman of Tomorrow in the future
I'm cautiously optomistic I like the whole Gods and Monsters theme and I'm excited for most of these films, however, it seems like Gunn's playing favorites on what can be kept or not, and as a Dc Comics fan, it reminds me a lot of the New 52 and how they handled continuity and it's possible that this might fall down a similar rabbit hole
A jaded Supergirl? The Lanterns?
Maybe we’ll see Red Lantern Supergirl, the emergence of the spectrums with an overall build towards the Blackest Night/Brightest Day? Sure they could navigate that with some changes……
Not gonna lie, I was a MCU light fanboy and dodged the DCU films until Gunn's first one like the plague. This is THE move WB needed to do to set up hope. I'll see the first movie after flash with fingers crossed
Yup
Here we go DC take over by James Gunn. Sounds good but finally a Robin in Batman movie. And wish they did someone different then Swamp Thing like Zantana.
Bat family is what gets me really hyped for a new Batman and that new Superman movie gives me hope
the argument for doing a straight comic to screen movie is that there are creatives involved. script writers, directors, actors, cgi artists, it goes on, that also want to feel like they are true to themselves and show some artistry. sometimes that deviates a story. who signs onto a movie generally as a director to be told, this is how the story will be and what it will look like. no deviations. good luck
This gets me hopeful that they might turn Tom king's Mister miracle into a movie. Like what there doing with Supergirl.
So everyone feels good about the guy whose favorite Robin is Damian being the brain behind the new cinematic universe lol?
I’ve been waiting for this video all afternoon
The only thing I wished James Gunn changed was for the Green Lantern show to be a movie. Also have Dick Grayson be the Robin of the DCU, but other than that, I'm excited.
Grayson is Nightwing & he’s more important as Nightwing so I get what your saying but im happy they are jumping
I love everything except that he’s going to reset batman again. I thought the batman was a perfect movie and would have been great to include in the dcu.
And it not being called lanterns
@@_Antijosh_ He’s more *important* as Robin and the first Robin since he started the “Batfamily” being the first in technically and taught Bruce how to trust others more but is generally more *popular* as Nightwing so don’t get things twisted. He’s arguably the most important Robin only competing with Tim Drake. Big DC fan here… so many comics yell this at us besides certain trash elseworlds like White knight.
To play Devil's advocate, the only thing that makes me nervous is the whole "have actors play their roles in different mediums"-thing. It's ambitious and leads to cohesion. I'm just afraid that real life has shown us that you can't predict what actors are going to do or what's going to happen to them. Obviously, the quick fix is to have an understudy in case. Other than that, expecting good things.
Well he talks a decent game. And he seems legit excited to make this happen. But a lot of the directions they've chosen to go in are kind of a mixed bag for me. My reaction was kinda like:
All star Superman? Awesome!
Green lantern? Cool.
Damien? Hmm ok.
The authority? Uh who are, or wtf is the authority?
But like most things, it will come down to execution. The proof will be in the proverbial pudding as they say. Hopefully we'll finally get the DC universe we either need, want or deserve or whatever lol
random heroes and shit can be great though, guardians of the galaxy were relatively unknown before james gunn made a live action of it, he could probably do the same with the authority
I feel like he announced a bunch of suicide squad knockoffs but am quite hyped for brave and the bold
wait, so when he says the lanterns mystery will tie in to the dcu overall story, he means the big story for dcu is blackest night right?? he never mentioned any other property was tying into the overall story, just connect to the same universe. can we fan cast batista as black hand?
I hope they cast a brown kid as Damian Wayne.
Talk about job security. I need to get back into acting
I was going to read the article but then I was like nah...I will just wait for Sal & Benny to release a video on it, then like 2 minutes later I got at notification for this video. Thanks guys. 👍🏻😃
32:09 I agree that not every superhero movie needs a 200 million dollar budget. If Michael Bay can make 3 movies under 50 million (Pain and Gain 30 million, 13 hours 50 million, ambulance 45 million) so can DC!
I hope they do Supergirl and that story justice.
I wonder how Tom King and other writers get paid when a movie adaptation of a comic is turned into a movie.
Here’s my problem…Gunn was brought in to give the BIG MAINLINE characters their due because they HAVENT been given their justice on screen yet. I’m all for more niche projects like this once the universe is ALREADY established. World build first. Build the justice league and the world around it before you give me a damn show about Frankenstein and his bride working with Rick Flag SR and Weasal…and the Authority is not the SECOND movie you make in the creation of your new universe. You bring them in later on if you want. I was worried about this. I understand the happiness that they have an actual solid direction and plan, and I also really like that they’re clearly taking DIRECTLY from specific comic runs. But that was the literal floor for what I was expecting. Zaslav was quoted as saying that they were going to make damn sure that the big tent pole characters would be fleshed out first. They would be taken care of first. Before they even think about doing lesser known characters. I just don’t understand these choices. Wonder Woman prequel without Wonder Woman? Booster Gold given his own entire tv show before we get anything from the hawk family or JL Dark/Fate or before the Teen Titans or before any Speedforce characters. I’m literally only excited for Lanterns Superman and brace and bold but even with Batman I’m really upset that we’re just going to skip like 8-10 years of Bat family life and relationships with dick Barbara tim and Jason. Also, he won’t be close to the same age as Superman. On one hand I’m happy on the other hand I was hoping for something completely different and that he wouldn’t pull a James Gunn and do more with unknown characters than known characters.
I want Dick as Batman and Damian as Robin
Finally Robin!
Swamp Thing! Hopefully they’ll do Rotworld or some storyline with the Parliaments
9:45 i agree 100% , jumping to the last one takes away the possibility of us loving the characters and there character development. Like it would've been nice to see jason todd first before turning into red hood, would've nice to see Batman train Dick Grayson etc, would've been nice to see Dick Graysons evolution and turning into Night wing, thats the best way to tell a story.
I dislike doing the "mcu black widow " approach which is have the events happen and then later on go back and do an origins story . The universe is better off doing it in that order
I'm most excited for the Authority movie. The rest I will hope for the best.
always love when the views match the number of subs
Will James Wan be able to get a second shot at Swamp Thing? I loved the tv show but it got canceled because of the budget/cost.
I'm most excited for The Authority.
This is going to come down to the availability of anything that isn't released in cinema. DC shows and animated movies release late & are often spread over multiple services in the UK.
Can’t believe you guys said nothing about the Authority! Zero reaction? Do you guys just not know what that is?
I was excited for this videos as soon as I saw his video…. ah the age of consumption
there is an animated movie Justice League: Gods and Monsters.
I wait for the lantern show
The Batman I would do with this is that yes it’s Batman and Damien, but he’s got nightwing, batgirl, and Red Robin. But not red hood, the sequel or the third movie would be under the red hood…you could even have nightwing getting attacked at the end of his movie which directly leads into under the red hood
If Batman already have Damien on his side that makes his age 40-50 and meeting young Superman that don’t make sense
I love Dan and Benny. You can tell they homies for life
1:21 I think that he used Teen Titans Go as an example for animation
Benny Matt reeves Batman is not connected. It’s not telling the beginning of the DCU Batman.
What about Margot Robbie as Harley? I hope she gets another movie or shows up again somewhere
I’m assuming she still is considering viola Davis is still playing Amanda Waller!
@@charlomlttegzn said that the suicide squad and the peacmaker show will be part of the dceu
So the Flash resets the DCU…then Aquaman 2 comes out…this reset is feeling very familiar to New 52 where somethings are reset and others aren’t…like how Waller will still have Peacemakers team (strange how the one TV show Gunn worked on seems to still have a place in the DCU but everything else had to go and be recast).
Also not a fan of Gunn having a hand in writing everything feels like we’re only going to have one writers point of view on every character
It's still going to be better than anything Zack Snyder did
@@dukeheavens9990 potential, the issue with Gunn is while the Snyderverse was very dark Gunn has a habit of making everything a little too comical (that sad Guardians 3 may prove to be a happy medium) and not everything is meant to have humor. There are characters and storylines that need to be dark and humourless but if Gunn is writing everything I can’t see that happening.
Plus like I say it seems a little hypocritical to say that everything needs to be reset/recast yet it sounds like everything Peacemaker related will stay the same. But time will tell, honestly the one thing DC has done well are it’s animated shows and movies so really I’d focus on making epic cinema worth animated films over live action if I were them
Gunn's reason for recasting Superman makes no sense. And his patchwork approach to a reboot is emulating the worse mistakes DC publishing has made. The New 52 Superman was a terrible idea. They had to kill him off and have the real Superman return.
Gunn should have said nothing. He should have worked on a new Superman (if he wants a new version) set outside the DCU continuity. He should have let the slated films come out (with the Cavill cameos)and seen how they performed. If they don't do well, his new Superman represents the start of a new Universe. If they do well, sequels can get made that do not reference the characters outside of the specific properties. But this obsession with a shared-Star Wars-like Universe approach prevents a more logical solution to the problem. He is willing to go with two version of Batman, but not Superman? He can't explain why Superman needs to be 25 years old for his story which he now claims starts with Clark already working for the Daily Planet. This sounds like exactly where we left Cavill's version. There's no need to reference age.
How crazy would it be if the mystery uncovered in the GL show was that a new god was found dead in a dumpster? A heavy Morrison presence, Batman and Son, imagine if one of the sequels is Batman:R.I.P. and then Justice league: first Crisis. But it’s really just Gunns version of Final crisis
That's a lot for your first justice league movie in this universe. Need to stay from the new gods as long as possible
Im super hype for this so far but I do think that some of the gods and monsters projects that they « can’t talk about » will be a Wonder Woman, Flash, and Justice League movie
I mean I honestly think the bigger question is the fact if Ezra Miller is still going to be the Flash after the reboot I mean if anyone truly deserves to get kicked out it’s Ezra Miller
No red underwear for superman lol. Have the suit without it
I think it would be a really good idea for direct comic adaptations (if possible) for the writers of the comics to have some involvement such as Tom king having some involvement for Super-Girl Woman Of Tomorrow what does everyone else think?
Black Adam was a success. Remember that Black Adam was not a known character to most people outside of comic fans.
I've been waiting for years for y'all to cover the authority
So Peacemaker and The Suicide Squad is staying canon???? I'm totally fine with keeping Viola Davis as Waller, honestly she is like the JK Simmons as Jonah!
It will likely not be exactly the same as before because The Flash will still rework the timeline, just where some things will be completely changed, others will just be reshuffled a bit
God I can't wait for the Snyder fanboy crowd to slowly become quieter and quieter until they disappear entirely.
It seems like they are focusing on stories regardless of how popular the character is. "if we can make a good story, let's do it". Opposed to "who can make money".
I'm all God James Gunn
I trust James Gunn to make the films and shows great, but the titles/descriptions don’t really excite me if I ignored his involvement - my other reservation is that in his other people advising (?) are Tom King (whose work I really like but he does seem to tend to almost shoehorn characters in to stories he wants to tell rather than present them as established) and Christina Hodson (who I don’t know if she is to blame for the Cassandra Cain destruction in BoP, but as screen writer seems the most likely candidate) - if they advise on the approach to characters, I have some concerns
Actually I was watching sports news starting to think nothing excites me anymore 😂 but Woman of Tomorrow actually does! Yay!
For the first time I'm excited for the future of the DCU.
Even if Batgirl was bad, they shouldn't have binned it. It's a finished movie, just release it, you're not losing any more money.
I feel like it’s sort of a wast to adapt grant Morrison Batman and robin run if you are going to swap Bruce for Dick. In my opinion Damian Wayne is Dick Graysons Robin
I took it as more the concept behind Batman and Damian bonding like he and Grayson did in the run only, but ye, that run was their run and it defeats the point completely. Grayson ultimately helps Damian grow and onwards.
@@Artryom The concept is great! I just worry about the role Grayson will play later on cause some of my favorite runs involve the bond Grayson and Damian share and I fear that will either not appear in the DCU or exist but fee repetitive since it would be a relationship bruce and Damian already have
Makes sense why Gunn is taking a lot from Morrison, James went to morrisoncon like 10 years ago and seem like they have a colleague type relationship
There is so much promise in these movies and James Gunn excelling with ambiguous characters. It's as iff it starts off grounded and builds into something bigger!
I really could do without Hassan's commentary on comic book related content. Hassan's comments are either lackadaisical or just parrot's others. It doesn't add to the discussion
Yeah, I really don't know what to think of this lineup. Like, I'm currently most excited for Shazam and the The Batman sequel, which don't really have anything to do with this new DCU. Superman: Legacy sounds cool, but unfortunately, it's not with Henry Cavill, and not that whoever they pick won't be good, but his version of Superman was already struggling with what it means to be Human and Kryptonian, right? Why continue on with Aquaman if the universe is rebooted with Flash? It still sounds a bit shaky getting this new universe started because they want to maintain aspects of the previous installments but also get rid of others, when a completely clean break would have been clearer. I like the idea of maintaining the same actors across every medium, and I like that it's going to be more creator/story driven than producer/architect driven, but for the moment, it's just a waiting game, I can't get too excited about these things until we are much closer to their releases.
It's time boys, I predict the man: James Gunn himself will be on this show or with comic poppa sooner then naught!
I'm so excited for James Gunn vision. The guy has talent and huge comic book fan. Few of the obscure characters that he introduced will become massive household names just like he did with guardians of the galaxy and peacemaker. DCEU lacked plan and a leader in the past years but now we get this massive visionary to the drawing board. I hated people who criticised James even before he showed his plans. Let us give him time polish the turd called DCEU to a diamond called DCU. It's time for a new story telling rather than a formulaic stories.