@@christianweibrecht6555 I think its less that and more the old meme of "I'm a good writer i could get a job at blizzard, oh wait blizzard doesn't hire good writers"
In the past 10 years, many people have made many videos about classic wow You are covering topics that they never even considered I’m glad to have found your channel
Its very rare to find places like this anymore, in classic era or in modern content. Even gm Island and that secret beach with night elf stuff had more videos about it. I guess people paid it no mind and just thought he room was taller to make room for a dragon, and didn't realize there was stuff unique to the room and just made the L turn into the next part of the raid
The way you tell stories about this game is amazing, like an archeological approach. It's very believable and I honestly agree with everything you postulate. I think the quest writers and people behind the game had so many grand ideas that were never fleshed out, gotta remember the main devs were all dungeons and dragons players, so I'm sure they had all sorts of ideas that got forgotten. Keep up the good work. I can watch your content anytime, and I always click when I see you upload
the algorithm brought me to your channel recently, and I've honestly spent the past couple of days binging your WoW lore videos, they're fantastic I absolutely love your style here, your approach to the lore and theorycrafting is refreshing and I feel like it's filling a much needed niche in the WoW community in regards to lore discussions please keep doing what you're doing, I really appreciate the engaging ideas you bring to the table!
Something I find great about classic wow as well as your videos is that unlike modern wow classic was willing to leave questions open enough to interpretation. Sometimes the coolest thing about a mystery is stewing on what could be rather than what has been told and what is. Love the videos boss keep up the good work.
The shadow council bargaining for the upper levels was a later retcon. It was always implied the First Horde took the spire by force thus the heavy damage yo it that seems to be from a lot more than mere neglect. (And how they are at war to this day) the idea of common ground to make a treaty didn't even exist because prior to Warlords of Draenor there was no evidence Cho'Gall had any ties to the Old Gods before his defeat hy Rend and Maim at the temple of Sargeras. Thwre wasn't sime vast "Void" primal energy and faction to connect him. He was just a demon bargainer turned old god puppet much the same way Xavius or Azshara were.
These deep dives or history gathering videos are just perfect. I am a retail player, but I love going through the raids and dungeons slow and easy to just see the amazing art that the Blizz creators did. I have run that dungeon/raid area many, many times. And have given thought to 'why are there Oger's and Orc's here with dragons and Dwarves?! You have perfectly explained the WHY for me. So thank you! I have seen the statues, the coffins, the gears to move doors, the prisons, etc. And yet, I did not know the reason for it *all*. You also explained that! now when I run any of those instances, I'll know the reasons for those items in there. And I love that. Please keep these video's going! you have made WoW and the Lore of WoW come to life so many times now!! I certainly appreciate it! May the Force be with you.
The size of the room and that it's a two-floor gallery and the two 'mini-throne' setup makes me think this was a feasthall or some kind of gathering place for celebrations. The ruling king and queen would sit up in the raised area and the floor could be setup with tables and kegs for any festive occasion. The next room after even has massive kegs stored away. It also doesn't make much sense to me to make a monument to your hated enemies. Large statues are works of incredible craftsmanship and I doubt they'd waste the effort to depict the people they hate the most.
What an incredible idea, it's very easy to overlook all of the scenery in a raid environment, but this video makes me want to walk through BWL and really take a close look at it after my next run, what a great video!
I really hope Blizzard will give you the recognition you deserve for your videos in the near future. Even if half the stuff might have been just unintentional your theory crafting just brings the Azeroth alive in a way similar to exploring a story or game for the first time. Thank you for that!
I have been playing WoW a LOT ever since 2008. I have watched a LOT of videos about the world and the lore. I even read through all the Wikis. But then Jedi comes along and shows that I know nothing about Azeroth. Thank you, man! ❤ Elune guide you.
Awesome thank you. So much is missed in the rush to “complete stuff” A big part of my game is exploration but I still miss a lot. I like my Rogue because I can take time on solo exploration.❤😊Have an awesome new year everyone.❤❤❤
i always noticed those chairs and wondered about them. Never looked up from there or if i did it was while looking away from the statutes and never even noticed they were there. I always found it a bit of an odd room though. sure its got its use, but the history of this place never really hit home.
Somewhere in the year 1998 : "Hi, how do are you today? Erm, about your two giant statues ideas, I have a suggestion for the lava-zone where Dark Dwarft will live. Put tiny statues ressembling the big ones, but with funny details, so everyone will understand the mockery and how those clans have a century-old but strong hate. Had this idea during our DnD session yesterday, using puppets." Players during 20 years of WoW : Not noticing the link. Jediwarlock : Exposing the link. Conclusion : Damn. All that extra layers of useless lore really were an interesting face of Classic WoW.
5:10 the horns were "Edited" out because people were using that statue to glitch outside the dungeon, one of the few times that blizzard tried to fix things like that. It wasn't like that when the dungeon first was released (Prior to 1.12.1), so unfortunately it has no significance to the lore. (Source: I've played too much wow, an embarrassing amount, since alpha when ironforge had two floors.)
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Please never stop doing these. I wish Blizzard kept up this same level of environmental storytelling in all their expansions.
Retail players need everything to be explicitly stated and shoved in their faces
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But riding dragons through rings wooooooo
@@christianweibrecht6555 I think its less that and more the old meme of "I'm a good writer i could get a job at blizzard, oh wait blizzard doesn't hire good writers"
they do
In the past 10 years, many people have made many videos about classic wow
You are covering topics that they never even considered
I’m glad to have found your channel
Blizzard level designer: Using props Dwarven_Statue_00 and Dwarven_Statue_01
RUclipsr 20 years later: This was a meaningful secret
I love how you can turn a couple reused assets into deep intriguing stories!
Its very rare to find places like this anymore, in classic era or in modern content. Even gm Island and that secret beach with night elf stuff had more videos about it. I guess people paid it no mind and just thought he room was taller to make room for a dragon, and didn't realize there was stuff unique to the room and just made the L turn into the next part of the raid
The room in front was pretty tall too though. And it's a two floor gallery.
This is why I love Jediwarlock he notices things we never did and hes dead on right too
The way you tell stories about this game is amazing, like an archeological approach. It's very believable and I honestly agree with everything you postulate. I think the quest writers and people behind the game had so many grand ideas that were never fleshed out, gotta remember the main devs were all dungeons and dragons players, so I'm sure they had all sorts of ideas that got forgotten. Keep up the good work. I can watch your content anytime, and I always click when I see you upload
the algorithm brought me to your channel recently, and I've honestly spent the past couple of days binging your WoW lore videos, they're fantastic
I absolutely love your style here, your approach to the lore and theorycrafting is refreshing and I feel like it's filling a much needed niche in the WoW community in regards to lore discussions
please keep doing what you're doing, I really appreciate the engaging ideas you bring to the table!
The secret of Vael's room is that you kite everything there.
Something I find great about classic wow as well as your videos is that unlike modern wow classic was willing to leave questions open enough to interpretation. Sometimes the coolest thing about a mystery is stewing on what could be rather than what has been told and what is. Love the videos boss keep up the good work.
The shadow council bargaining for the upper levels was a later retcon. It was always implied the First Horde took the spire by force thus the heavy damage yo it that seems to be from a lot more than mere neglect. (And how they are at war to this day) the idea of common ground to make a treaty didn't even exist because prior to Warlords of Draenor there was no evidence Cho'Gall had any ties to the Old Gods before his defeat hy Rend and Maim at the temple of Sargeras.
Thwre wasn't sime vast "Void" primal energy and faction to connect him. He was just a demon bargainer turned old god puppet much the same way Xavius or Azshara were.
older lore was much better
These deep dives or history gathering videos are just perfect. I am a retail player, but I love going through the raids and dungeons slow and easy to just see the amazing art that the Blizz creators did. I have run that dungeon/raid area many, many times. And have given thought to 'why are there Oger's and Orc's here with dragons and Dwarves?! You have perfectly explained the WHY for me. So thank you! I have seen the statues, the coffins, the gears to move doors, the prisons, etc. And yet, I did not know the reason for it *all*. You also explained that! now when I run any of those instances, I'll know the reasons for those items in there. And I love that.
Please keep these video's going! you have made WoW and the Lore of WoW come to life so many times now!! I certainly appreciate it!
May the Force be with you.
The size of the room and that it's a two-floor gallery and the two 'mini-throne' setup makes me think this was a feasthall or some kind of gathering place for celebrations. The ruling king and queen would sit up in the raised area and the floor could be setup with tables and kegs for any festive occasion. The next room after even has massive kegs stored away.
It also doesn't make much sense to me to make a monument to your hated enemies. Large statues are works of incredible craftsmanship and I doubt they'd waste the effort to depict the people they hate the most.
I like that theory too! I can definitely see that working with the shape of the room ;)
Cheers for the video tonight and have a merry splendid New Year everyone!
I always appreciate your ability to find these details and flesh them out. Hope you have a great New Year too!
What an incredible idea, it's very easy to overlook all of the scenery in a raid environment, but this video makes me want to walk through BWL and really take a close look at it after my next run, what a great video!
I really hope Blizzard will give you the recognition you deserve for your videos in the near future.
Even if half the stuff might have been just unintentional your theory crafting just brings the Azeroth alive in a way similar to exploring a story or game for the first time. Thank you for that!
This is one of your best, JW. Thanks, and have a great new year!
These videos are so interesting! Keep it up!👍
tbh; r.i.p Vaelastrasz- he really didn't deserve that fate, and too many red dragons were either hostile or dead pre-cata, always found it sad.
Very awesome detail thanks for sharing
I really like this idea! Happy new year!
Let's go Jedi Tuesday! :D
Happy new year🎉 :)) thank you for amazing content
my druid stealthed all over these dungeons in classic. gotta solo that ring.
I bet Jedi is a filthy cheater too.
You're the Vaatividya of WoW, and I love it!
I have been playing WoW a LOT ever since 2008. I have watched a LOT of videos about the world and the lore. I even read through all the Wikis.
But then Jedi comes along and shows that I know nothing about Azeroth. Thank you, man! ❤
Elune guide you.
same for me
There will never be an area in the game better and more nostalgic then black rock mountain
what an eye for detail!
Hi Jedi!
This is really interesting! I think you make a good case.
Have a happy new year Jediwarlock
Nice connection to pick up on
Man I appreciate your effort so much bro. Creating classic content even years after many people consider the game dead. A real treat for devoted fans.
Awesome thank you. So much is missed in the rush to “complete stuff” A big part of my game is exploration but I still miss a lot. I like my Rogue because I can take time on solo exploration.❤😊Have an awesome new year everyone.❤❤❤
Nice video and insight, happy new year!
great video and a great theory, I hope there are more to come in the new year!
i wish blizzard had enough public outreach to bring people like yourself onto the team to make official content
Excellent deep dive videos
Hell yeah! Headcanon accepted!
good video thanks for the lore and happy new year
5:30 hammers on the left wall, axes on the right wall
i always noticed those chairs and wondered about them. Never looked up from there or if i did it was while looking away from the statutes and never even noticed they were there. I always found it a bit of an odd room though. sure its got its use, but the history of this place never really hit home.
You also have a good and productive new year! 💙
love new wow lore drops
I’ve sat on those chairs but never thought as to why they are there
It’s headcanon, but it’s reasonable and viable headcanon.
Blizzard: reuses assets to make the game cheaper
Loremasters: make up a whole history
happy new year! and F the force
very very interesting! u are mage of good ideas!
i WISH THAT BLIZZARD WILL ONE DAY SEE WHAT U DOING AND COOP WITH YOUR . MAYBE NARRATIVE PRODUCER ?
Interesting theory but I feel like they were just meant to be rough because they were old and decayed, maybe defaced by the orcs.
Somewhere in the year 1998 :
"Hi, how do are you today? Erm, about your two giant statues ideas, I have a suggestion for the lava-zone where Dark Dwarft will live. Put tiny statues ressembling the big ones, but with funny details, so everyone will understand the mockery and how those clans have a century-old but strong hate. Had this idea during our DnD session yesterday, using puppets."
Players during 20 years of WoW : Not noticing the link.
Jediwarlock : Exposing the link.
Conclusion : Damn. All that extra layers of useless lore really were an interesting face of Classic WoW.
meets
And what a shame this conflict was completely swept under the rug when it came to Cataclysm.
Meh they all get clapped
5:10 the horns were "Edited" out because people were using that statue to glitch outside the dungeon, one of the few times that blizzard tried to fix things like that. It wasn't like that when the dungeon first was released (Prior to 1.12.1), so unfortunately it has no significance to the lore. (Source: I've played too much wow, an embarrassing amount, since alpha when ironforge had two floors.)
LOL, that is a great detail! Thank you for sharing… I had no idea :)
Reported for the illegal WoW server ads you're running
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never forget, huh? lol